Shooting Guard Query

by jaywalker on Aug 8, 2008 6:22 PM PDT

Last season, as everyone know, shooting guard was a real strength for the Blazers. In fact, 82games ranks the Blazers 4th in the league on the basis of net PER last season:

Net

Rank Team PER Players

1 L*kers +8.5 bryant-vujacic

2 San Antonio +6.5 ginobli-finley-barry

3 Boston +4.4 allen-allen-house

4 Portland +4.3 roy-jack

Detroit and Denver tied for a very distant 5th with a net PER of +3.7 at SG, so the race for 4th place was not even close. This got me wondering...

We believe our team made a major upgrade by replacing Jack with Fernandez, so we expect the Blazers to improve at the 2.

Boston has the same cast of characters at shooting guard, so, given that ours and theirs played neck-and-neck in the stats sheet last year, it would not be very surprising if our improvement propels the Blazers to overtake the Celts in this category. If this happens, then the Blazers would have at least the third best SG tandem in the league next season.

But I think it gets better. The Spurs lost Brent Barry to the Rockets, but replaced him with Roger Mason from the Wizards; the jury is still out on whether Finley re-signs with the Spurs. Barry was a +4 on/off court player, while Mason was a -3 for a lessor team. This suggests the Spurs might lose a bit at SG next season. Also, Ginobli will be coming off the Olympics and that ankle injury he had at the end of last season, so will he run out of gas sometime during the year, or even start slow? Even though the statistics say the Spurs were dramatically better at SG than the Blazers last year, all of these things makes me wonder whether we might surpass even the Spurs at this position, especially if Rudy does well or the Spurs fail to retain Finley. The Roy-and-Rudy show would then be at least second best.

So leads to the inevitable question: will our guys begin their reign as the very best SGs in the league next season? Or is that still a bit too much of a leap?

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Not sure I'm looking at the same figures on 82games.com

but the table here shows the Blazers in fifth place at 18.7 PER at shooting guard, behind the Lakers at 22.6, Spurs at 19.9, Kings at 19.5, and the Nuggets at 19.2. The Hawks are right behind the Blazers at 18.6.

Dwyane Wade was injured last season so I’m sure the Heat will move up.

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by MiledAnimal on Aug 8, 2008 7:02 PM PDT reply actions

I was looking at the soratable team stats "by position" PERs

by jaywalker on Aug 8, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

PER?

OK, I understand basically what PER means, but I don’t know how you arrive at it. Can somebody toss out a definition and perhaps a commentary – ie., what aspects of the game does this measure highlight that other stats do not? Thanks.

by lookup on Aug 8, 2008 7:09 PM PDT reply actions

Thought

If you connect Jack to Roy, then their combined minutes suggest that Jack did not just play the SF position, but also the point. This implies somewhat of a point/combo/shooting guard. The upgrade then would as likely be Roy/Bayless as it will be Roy/Fernandez. A little confusing given how Mac rotates players. Still, I think that once we get some games under our belt, then we’ll be where we were at a minimum, or higher.

by Eben Calder on Aug 9, 2008 5:30 AM PDT reply actions

either way you slice it

is supposed to be an upgrade, I sur hope so anyways. rudy playmaker is a skilled competitor whose been pro for 7+ years, SCREAMING for a chance to play on the big stage, he should do well. j-rex fearless is playing with the pscycotic conviction of david karesh, and obviously we all expect him to continue. either of those 2 should be an upgrade over jack. if not, then we have misplaced our trust. I dont care if they are rookies, both should inpact more then Jack. period.

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