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Assemble Your Own Blazer Team, Day 8: The Final Piece

Here we are on the final day of the “Build Your Own Blazer Team” project.  In order to understand what’s going on today, you must remember this list: 

Bill Walton, Arvydas Sabonis, Greg Oden, Buck Williams, Maurice Lucas, Zach Randolph, Jerome Kersey, Scottie Pippen, Kiki Vandeweghe, Lionel Hollins, Brandon Roy, Geoff Petrie, Fat Lever, Terry Porter, Rod Strickland, Cliff Robinson, Rasheed Wallace, Lamarcus Aldridge, Jim Paxson, Billy Ray Bates, J.R. Rider, Drazen Petrovic

These are the people you CANNOT DRAFT TODAY.  You MAY NOT ADD any of them to your team!

However, for this final day, you may add any other Blazer, current or past, that you wish.  Remember you get the benefit of his Blazer years and all the years that followed, even if they were with another NBA team (but not the years before he was a Blazer).

Everybody got it?  Add any player you wish to your rotation of eight who is NOT on the above list.

What’s that?  Wait a minute!  Something is happening.  Here comes Jermaine O’Neal, making the traditional introductory walk down the Rose Garden steps, waving to the crowd.  He just knows with all of those great years in Indiana he’s going to be everybody’s final pick.  Look at him smiling!  Look at him waving!  Look at him…WHAT?!?  Oh my heavens, he tripped!  He’s falling down multiple flights of stairs!  And look, he crashed right into Clyde Drexler there, hobbling around on his crutches from his previous injury!  O’Neal is clutching his leg, grimacing in pain.  It appears he won’t be draftable.  But what’s this?  When he hit Clyde he knocked Drexler’s knee in just the right way to fix his injury?  Oh my goodness folks, do you know what this means?!?

Clyde Drexler is available.  CLYDE DREXLER IS AVAILABLE!

But wait…if you want him, it’s going to cost you.  The procedure is slightly different, so pay attention.

If you want Clyde you have to rid yourself of your starting shooting guard (Roy, Petrie, or Hollins) plus ONE OTHER STARTER as defined by the rules…meaning one of the other guys you picked in the first five days of the process.  It could be your center, power forward, small forward, or point guard, but one of them has to go, along with your shooting guard.

After you have dumped your starting SG and one other starter you may add Clyde.  Plus instead of picking one other Blazer not on the list above you pick TWO other Blazers not on the list above, to bring your total to eight.  (You started with 7 players at the beginning of the day.  You lost two starters, bringing you down to 5.  You add Clyde and two scrubs, bringing you to 8 total.)

So the procedure is simple…

If You Don’t Want Clyde:  Choose one Blazer other than those listed in gray above to add to your team.  (No Jermaine O'Neal either now.)  Your rotation is now complete.

If You Do Want Clyde:  Divest yourself of your starting shooting guard and one other starter (picked in the first five days) of your choice.  Add Clyde and pick TWO other Blazers other than those listed in gray above.  Your rotation is now complete.

Please note that the only task for the day is completing your rotation.  This is not the day to explain why your entire rotation is the best.  That’s tomorrow.  Today just tell us who you picked to finish your team and why.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Does Moses count?

He never played a game in a Blazer uniform. Great point, though.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

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by rockingharder on Aug 6, 2008 11:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definitely not

Moses Malone was never a Blazer.

—Dave

by Dave on Aug 6, 2008 11:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay...

...I should of known that would be too easy. Did we never sign him? Because I have large TOPPS basketball card from my youth that has Moses Malone as a Blazer. I know he never played for us, but I thought we did draft him and then decided to let him go. That’s fine, I’ll change my line-up. I would think Moses violates the spirit of a “Blazer” team.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 6, 2008 11:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the way out of the last home game of the 04-05 season

they were giving away team posters. On the front were all of the players from that season (Bassy,Ha, Darius, et al). On the back were pictures of every Blazer player ever, all the way from Alaa Abdelnaby to Joe Wolf. If memory holds it also included a picture of Moses Malone. If the organization is willing to say that Moses was a Blazer who are we to argue?

Is there someone else who can confirm or deny the existence of this poster?

by tingeyga on Aug 7, 2008 12:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

According to Wikepedia..

we drafted Moses out of the ABA dispersal draft. He never played a game for us and we traded him for a first round pick. One could argue that since we both drafted Moses and received value for him from another team that he was indeed a Blazer asset, even if he never played a game for us. However, I’m sorry I ever stepped in this mess, because even if you can make an arguement that Moses was a Blazer his “function” was almost like a draft day trade, as he NEVER played for us. So I agree with the spirit of the decision to keep Moses out of the loop. Hey, I owe it to Duck to add him, he played for us!

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 7, 2008 12:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Similar Blazer career stats as Greg Oden (which is why I chose Walton). The argument could be made that Oden has never played a game for the Blazers either.

But I agree Malone shouldn’t be allowed and Oden should. Perhaps the criteria should be whether they ever got a paycheck from the Blazers or some such thing like that.

Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)

by LaughingJon on Aug 7, 2008 8:15 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's fine...

I know he never played a game for us. It was too perfect a loophole for me not to try. But hey I agree, despite the oversized TOPPS card of my youth, Moses Malone was never a functional Blazer. I’m happy with a switch of Duck, Steve Johnson and Clyde. No problem.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 7, 2008 12:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was a Blazer

Quote from Glickman: “Finally, we brought Malone to camp and he looked terrible… He started improving through the exhibition season, and in the last pre-season game he turned in an outstanding performance. But by that time (Blazer owner) Larry Weinberg had given John Y. Brown of Buffalo an option on a deal to Buffalo for cash and a first round draft choice.”

He played for us in the preseason exhibition games in 1976, was traded after the last one and before the season started. Worst move in Blazer history, even worse than drafting Bowie.

You’d better declare him injured.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Aug 7, 2008 1:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what is it with us and big men

Walton – great start, but then leg injuries
Moses – traded away
Hakeem – lost in a coin flip
Bowie – forget the Jordan thing. That’s way overblown. the league consensus at the time was for Bowie. again, leg injuries on this one. People forget how good a player he was. Not a HOF guy – but a defensive force and a clear upgrade to Duck.
Sabonis – got him a few years late, past his prime. What’s worse, is he got permission from the Soviets to play overseas in 1989 but chose to play in Spain for 6 years before coming over.

so, look at the what if’s here:
1) Walton stay healthy, we keep the team together and win a few more rings
2) Walton doesn’t stay healthy, but Moses is coming on, so we win a few more rings
3) We win te coin toss for Hakeem, dyanasty time
4) Bowie stays healthy, we likely win 1-3 rings
5) Sabonis comes here in 1989. We take the 90 finals and likely split the next 3 or 4 with the Bulls.

If any ONE of these things happen, the Garden has at least a few more banners hanging from the ceiling. But we were a big 0 for 5 on the centers.

Thankfully, Oden is here to finally put the PTB center curse behind us.

Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.

by douglast on Aug 7, 2008 1:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't forget

We didn’t get Oden free and clear either. The knee…?

by jamon51 on Aug 7, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easy...

I’m taking Clyde, Cutting Brandon and Sabonis and adding Moses Malone and Steve Johnson. Will I have to redo this when Moses is taken out of the equation?

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 6, 2008 11:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NO Moses Malone

He never suited up for us.

—Dave

by Dave on Aug 6, 2008 11:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Redo...

I’ll still take Clyde but now I’ll obviously still say goodbye to Brandon and Sabonis but add Duckworth and Steve Johnson.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 6, 2008 11:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question

I picked Walton at center and wouldn’t dream of getting rid of him. Even though you picked Sabonis originally, is it easier - in terms of talent or just psychologically - to cut him than it would have been to cut Walton?

by jtanzer on Aug 7, 2008 6:53 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really...

...Sabonis was obviously my first choice. However this move is based more on the opportunity to obtain Drexler than Sabonis’s talent. The opportunity to aquire one of the best Blazers to ever play for us. Also makes it easier because I think Duckworth is undervalued. Some people have forgotten how good he actually was for us. If I couldn’t replace him with Duckworth, I might be forced to pass. But I don’t quite think I understand your question, it has nothing to do with any psychological aspect, just trying to balance what I think is a better talent base. I think Drexler, Duckworth and Steve Johnson perhaps just slightly more valuable than Sabonis and Brandon. It’s difficult when you’ve been a long time fan because you find yourself being a fan of so many of these players. Really if there is any key to my choice to cut Sabonis it would be that I can put Duckworth in his slot. Sabonis was even in his twilight, a better all around talent BUT Duck wasn’t chopped liver. He played very well and was a real talent for us at center. I did not pick Walton to start with, based mostly on his lack of longevity and durability. So in a way I’ve already “cut” Walton. I love Walton and he was probably the best center in his prime, and one of the best players in his prime to ever play for us. As well as being the cornerstone to our championship. If I had Walton, I still think I’d make this the swap though. At one time I would of evaluated Drexler as the second best player on planet earth, only a shadow’s breath behind Jordan. Hard to pass that up.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 7, 2008 9:44 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we also add a coach?

Odenied: Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Aug 6, 2008 11:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I need another sf/g

As I have been keying on defense I considered several blazers since Petrovic and Pippen have relatively short time. I looked at the plastic man (Augmon) as well as the wizard (Walt Williams) as I need some scoring but I want a guy who can defend reasonably both the 2-3 spots. I need/want more youth and therefore neither of those guys had more than 6 six years left in the tank. Therfeore I’m going out on a limb and taking potential who isn’t that great at D (man up) but is a decent help defender and could learn some trick watching Pippen. That’s right I’m taking Trout as my eight man. He gives youth with great upside and has produced reasonably for a bench player; and he won’t make wave in a bad way.

Final team :
starters: Porter, Roy, Pippen, Lucas, Oden
bench: Wallace, Petrovic, Outlaw

Game on!

by NWfan on Aug 6, 2008 11:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm gonna assume

Moses is ineligible, since that would be too easy.

I’m taking Clyde, cutting Roy and Buck (who I was making a 6th man anyway).

I’m also adding Brian Grant and since my dad would be disappointed if I didn’t have someone from the 77 team, I’m also taking Dave Twardzik (even though I never saw him play).

So, my team is:

C- Greg Oden
PF- LaMarcus Aldridge
SF- Scottie Pippen
SG- Clyde Drexler
PG- Terry Porter
—-—-—-——-
6th: Drazen Petrovic
7th: Brian Grant
8th: Dave Twardzik

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Aug 6, 2008 11:35 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My Team

I’m going to pass on Clyde and keep Brandon and finish off my team largely because I think that lineup fits better with the versatile team-oriented defensive unit I’m building.

Thus, I’ve wracked my brain quite a while to find my final guy, but I’ve settled on a guy who spent only 1 season here (which bummed me out at the time), but went on to win 3 rings and make a ton of clutch plays. He was a solid 3 point shooter and defender, and a smart and saavy team player—Mario Elie. He’ll fit nicely into my lineup as backup at the 2/3 positions.

C Oden
PF Lucas
SF Pippen
SG Roy
PG Lever

Big: LMA
Wing: Paxson
8th: Mario Elie

As a footnote, I’d have to say

Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.

by douglast on Aug 7, 2008 12:04 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops

as a footnote, I’d have to say that I think the PG position was by far the most difficult for me. I came up with compelling reasons to pick all 3 guys, and leaving off TP was the hardest choice I think I made in this whole exercise. In the end, I couldn’t pass up on Fat.

Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.

by douglast on Aug 7, 2008 12:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm gonna take Drexler, and ditch Roy and Kiki

And I’ll add Ruben Patterson and Kenny Anderson

C- Oden
PF- Buck
SF- Ruben
SG- Drexler
PG- Porter

Bench 1- Sheed
Bench 2- Kenny
Bench 2- Paxson

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side

by TheThinWhiteDuke on Aug 7, 2008 12:04 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Drexler to reunite the Balding Backcourt and Kersey

C – Walton
PF – Aldridge – moves into starting role replacing Lucas
SF – Kersey
SG – Drexler – replaces Roy.
PG – Porter

G – Drazen
C/PF – Sidney Wicks
PF/SF – Outlaw

I could not resist Drexler. I grew up with him as the franchise player. Roy is quickly gaining a spot in my Red & Black heart but it will take a while for him to reach the Glyde’s status.
Outlaw and Wicks are picks to fill out the roster with scoring and versatility. I have never seen Wicks play but how can I not take a PF/C who averaged a double/double four of his years in the league. Mychal Thompson was a wuss. Brian Grant fell apart. Duck and Joel were up there but 20 and 10 versus defense with Joel and size and shooting from Duck…
Outlaw fits in at 3 or 4 and provides scoring off the bench. Elie and Natt had way too many injuries but they were in the running for the final spot. Steve Smith/Damon may be better players than Travis but I need a forward over another guard.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Aug 7, 2008 12:57 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a tough one!

In the end (I am sorry ROY!) I gotta go with Drexler and Porter. As tempted as I am to replace Oden with Sam Bowie or Chris Dudley (lol), I am going to surpress my erges and go with replacing Kersey with Lucus actually and bring Sheed from the bench as my starting PF:
Oden, Sheed, Lucus (can Lucus keep up with guarding a SF’s? maybe i should move sheed to the 3, he does love his 3’s) Drexler and Porter.
Now i need two bench players, my choices are:
Kenny Anderson, who has been a great PG his whole career, very unselfish and i feel won’t hurt us when porter sits
And I’m pulling a fast one here with Mychal Thompson, he had a very good career and was a good scorer and rebounder his whole career and he started with Portland so I get his WHOLE career! (sorry for saying career so much just then)

by Trail Ducker on Aug 7, 2008 1:40 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NEED 3PT & SF

Would like to take Wicks but he’s not a small forward.
Looks like a good spot for Martell Webster to me.
My team.
Walton
Lucas
Kersey
Roy
Porter
Aldridge
Paxson
Webster

by oldbaum on Aug 7, 2008 3:46 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to make us think...

I’ll take Drexler, drop Roy and Kersey. Pick up Elie for small forward and Tracey Murray for pure shooting ability.
My team, if I’ve remembered correctly:

Strickland
Drexler
Oden
Williams
Elie
Paxson
Wallace
Murray

If I had known it would work out this way with Drexler, I think I would have gone with Porter instead of Strickland, but there you are.

"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma

by -ken on Aug 7, 2008 4:14 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry Clyde but I like my team.

So for my last pick I will use…. Calvin Natt

Walton
Lucas
Kersey
Roy
Porter

Aldridge
Paxson
Natt

Not much ego in the bunch and while I don’t necessarily have role players I do have players who want to win and I think would sacrifice playing time for championship rings.

by blazermaniac32 on Aug 7, 2008 6:27 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take Drexler

OUT:
Roy, Lucas
(No, Mo, don’t go!)

IN:
Drexler, Duckworth, Kenny Carr

ROSTER:
Walton | Wallace | Kersey | Drexler | Porter
Duckworth | Carr | Petrovic

I’d still like one more backup in the frontcourt (Ainge?), but I’m out of picks.

by jtanzer on Aug 7, 2008 6:36 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dave, I don't like the whole Drexler thing...

If everyone is ditching their lineups to add Drexler, what was the point of making selections in the first place? I refuse to follow that path.

I have:

Oden
Lucas
Kersey
Roy
Porter
Robinson
Petrovich

I’ve got bangers in Oden & Lucas, hustle/defense in Kersey, penetration/pick&roll in Roy, floor general in Porter, outside shooting in Petrovich, and versatile big man in Robinson. I’m looking for backcourt help so I’m going to take:

Stacy Augman

He can spell Brandon and Kersey, brings great defense, and could even play with Roy when he runs the point while Porter rests.

Koponen - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Aug 7, 2008 6:50 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a Drexler fan

and I’d much rather have the ball in Roy’s hands than Drexler’s at the end of the game. The biggest impression Clyde made on me was a propensity for jacking up crazy prayers at critical times. My heartrate was much lower when Porter had the ball.

That said, Drexler certainly keeps you in any game, had crazy skills and is bound for the hall.

So here’s the question: Would you trade Roy & Kersey for Drexler & Calvin Natt? Looking at Natt’s career stats and him being an all-star whereas the beloved and respected Kersey struggled to take the starting job from Kiki and keep it from Cliffy.

Done deal.

Team LJ: Walton, Lucas, Natt, Drexler, Porter, Wallace, Petrovic and… Mychal Thompson

Note: I really tried to get Sydney Wicks on the team as he was a horse but I needed a SF and what’s up with the Blazers and their derth of small forwards? I had to go with Natt for that reason alone. I picked Thompson over Duckworth because, well.. he’s a waaaay better ballplayer.

Final Note: Five years from now Oden, LMA & Roy would probably replace Walton, Drexler & Wallace.

Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)

by LaughingJon on Aug 7, 2008 7:56 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im glad to see someone else picking thompson!

I feel because he was stuck in the first round out teams of our past he’s gotten a little forgotten

by Trail Ducker on Aug 7, 2008 1:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thompson was too laid back

He had some skills and he certainly wouldn’t hurt any team but he could be fantastic one night and take the next night off. With a stronger competitive drive, he could a been a contender.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Aug 7, 2008 10:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow... if i could play drexler as a SF...

Drexler is out.
Why:

1.) Mentally weak vs Roy who is a real leader.
2.) Roy has excellent all around scores and his LEADERSHIP (Love court rivals) helps win games that the blazers have had no business winning.
3.) I think Roy will be a better 3pt shooter and I could use some of that.

Risks:
Drexler has a LONG proven carrier
Roy may die or vanish

Reward, I like my team chemistry better (not looking at stats). I have hard workers that will set the tone.

I’m still weaker than I’d like with three pointers. So the real debate in my mind is… Rudy or Bayless. I’m gambling, but I feel this gamble puts me over the edge.

I gotta go with Bayless. he fits too well with Roy, although he’ll never be a 3pt threat. If I’m looking for a TEAM and not stats, this is what I want.

Oden
Aldridge
Kersey
Roy
Porter

Lucas
Paxson
Bayless

A risky move for Bayless, I know, but I truly believe that as long as Roy plays, that kid is our starter at PG and will do amazing things. I also believe he’s one of the best players to play with roy.

Time will tell with my team, but i’m more than happy with it.

I’m positive I would dominate all those who did not pick oden if we did fantasy league on these teams over the next fifteen years. I’ll definitely win the later games. Non-fantasy, I still win because Oden is the second coming of shaq. I think a lot of people really can’t see that yet or are afraid to see that. This kid is goign to blow you away.

In other words, I’m pretty happy and I’m okay taking a risk on bayless. He’s rough around the edges, but I think he should be able to start in 42 games or less.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Aug 7, 2008 8:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is tough. Long research. Finally have to go with Sidney Wicks

Drexler stays off my team, I like having Roy cause he is also my backup PG and has a great all around game.
I don’t need another center, as Oden is a beast and can be backed up by Wallace when Lucas is in.
Mostly known as a shooter, I don’t really trust Kiki’s defense and drive ability (in the later part of his career). Also Petrovich doesn’t help much on defense. So I need another athletic forward or big guard who is able to score some points while on the field but also a good defender.

Options include:
- Sidney Wicks (6’8 forward, very solid career in college and with the pros, #2 pick, ROY, four All-Star appearances)
- Calvin Natt (6’6 small forward, first team All-Rookie, very good FG%, might be able to play some shooting guard)
- Ron Brewer (6’4 shooting guard, first team All-Rookie, father of Ronnie Brewer)
- Lloyd Neal (6’7, first team All-Rookie, undersized for his usual PF position, smart, capable of getting double-doubles)
- Bob Gross (6’6 forward-guard, second team All-Defensive)
- Larry Steele (6’5 guard-forward, led the league in steals the first year they were recorded, NBA champion)
- John Johnson (6’7 SF, NBA champion with Sonics, lots of assists, good scorer)
- Stacey Augmon (6’6 forward-guard, but half his career was before Portland)

I leave away our current forwards Martell and Travis, as they still have a lot of work to do to reach some of these guys. I think my decision is between Wicks (PF/SF), Natt (SF) and maybe Steele to improve my SG defense, leaning towards Wicks for all his achievements. Considering his size and body he could and would play as a forward today (kind of like Outlaw). Freakishly athletic, his UCLA coach said he was the most physically talented player he ever coached. Very solid rebounding skills (still holds franchise record), even capable to block consistently, lots of assists (more than Natt), okay free throw shooter, good fieldgoal percentage throughout his career.

Oden (Sheed)
Sheed (Lucas)
Kiki (Wicks)
Roy (Petrovic)
Porter (Roy)

Coach: Jack Ramsay (Rick Adelman as assistant to keep any bad boy behavior in check)

Strengths: Everyone is a scoring threat (inside and/or outside), outside shooting, athletic big men (especially on defense), passing
Weaknesses: Defending SG when Roy sits

Odenied: Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Aug 7, 2008 8:55 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta take the glide:

Old Team:
Walton
Williams
Kersey
Roy
Porter

Reserves
LMA
Jim Paxon

New Jam:
Walton
LMA (replacing Williams)
Kersey
Drexler
Porter

Reserves
Sidney Wicks(new)
Jim Paxon
Kevin Duckworth(new)

PS I really wanted to put the Plastic Man on my team

Oh and my team is deep, I have a guy who can come off of the Bench and step in for any on this team.

Kersey will be flying in for the boards, Walton provides good/great hands down low, and strong weak center defense and he will be able to pass out from down low, and terry porter provides 3 pt shooting and the alley-oops to Drexler as he comes flying in. If we are playing Tim D or Shaq on any given night Kevin Duckworth can come in to shoulder the load. Jim Paxon is great off of the bench as a point guard who plays around the perimeter and can hit his shots when he is open, which helps us spread the floor for a Drexler Dunk™ as he leaps from the 3 pt line. Lamarcus is a great fit next to Walton or Duckworth, providing rebounding with Walton, and the soft touch when Duckworth is in. Wicks provides some high-flying fun both inside and outside of the paint. Man this team is awesome.

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Aug 7, 2008 9:52 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't believe no one's said this ... Bob Gross!

I’m cutting Roy and Kersey, picking up Clyde, Bob Gross, now who’s my last pick? Here’s my squad so far:

Walton
Lucas
Gross
Drexler
Porter

Sheed
Drazen

Which means that I’m thin at the point guard spot, then again most of the good blazer point guards have aready been used. I also could use a little ruggedness up front, to compliment the gracefulness of Walton and Sheed.
I’ll take … Damon.
Decent assist numbers, good 3-point shooter.

So, to recap, my team is

Walton
Lucas
Gross
Drexler
Porter

Sheed
Drazen
Damon

I think it’s solid. Sheed can play C/PF. Drazen can play at the 2 with either Gross or Drexler in. Damon can play SG with Porter. It’s very versatile

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ime Udoka

I’m putting Ime Udoka in as a defensive minded, energy-type role player who can shoot the set three.

Oden
Lucas
Pippen
Roy
Porter

Robinson
Petrovic
Ime Udoka

by ranma on Aug 7, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clyde The Glide is in!

Roy and Kersey are out. I’m replacing Kersey with Calvin Natt because of stats alone. Kersey was the only starter I could live without and I’ve never seen Natt play but his stats were the best of any small forwards that I saw. Finally I’m adding Mychal Thompson to my bench to complete the roster.

C-Bill Walton
PF-Maurice Lucas
SF-Calvin Natt
SG-Clyde Drexler
PG-Fat Lever

BN-Cliff Robinson
BN-Drazen Petrovic
BN-Mychal Thompson

This team is geared up and ready to compete for the title. Walton provides a little bit of everything: scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, leadership. Mo Lucas is giving us rebounding, scoring, and toughness. Natt appears to be a good scorer, but thats about it. Clyde is just a freak of an athlete who can do it all (I didn’t know that he is our all time leader in offensive rebounds!). Lever is a distrubuter and a playmaker as well as a great finisher around the basket. Cliff is a sixth man extraordinair who can fill it up as well as rebound and defend. Drazen can shoot the lights out, he is the only pure shooter on my team. Thompson will provide front-court depth and can be a beast under the basket. Thats it, I’m done, lets go win some rings.

by OURVYDAS on Aug 7, 2008 10:56 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ooh...a toughie

But I’m going to have to pass on Clyde the Glide (although it hurts me to say this):

Team Donkey:

C – Bill Walton
PF – Maurice Lucas
SF – Jerome Kersey
SG – Brandon Roy
PG – Terry Porter

BN – Clifford Robinson
BN – Jim Paxson
BN – Calvin Natt

Robinson can play either PF or C and has a good 3-point shot to spread the floor. Paxson is a great pure shooting guard who can spell Roy (or play tandem with Roy if Roy slides to PG). Natt was a great SF that can spell Kersey.

It was hard not to pick Clyde (since who can argue with a Clyde / Porter backcourt?) and drop Roy + Kersey. Also it was hard not to pick Bob Gross. However, I’m sticking with this team.

by DonkeyShins on Aug 7, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are almost identical

In both team and thought process. My only difference is Aldridge instead of Uncle Cliffy. I as well almost went with Gross over Natt.

by blazermaniac32 on Aug 7, 2008 12:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If LMA had a couple of more years in the league...

Then I’d be all over him. However, it is hard to argue with the years of Uncle Cliffy’s service to basketball.

by DonkeyShins on Aug 7, 2008 1:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm gunnin for

Steve Smith.

Pure shooter, pure money

Ball Don't Lie

by bothteamsplayedhard on Aug 7, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shocking Myself -- Damon

Well, I wouldn’t have guessed it at the beginning of the process, but my 8th man will be Damon. I need someone to share the ball handling load, shoot a few treys, drive and dish and bring spark off the bench. His defensive weeknesses will be made up for by his teammates and he’s just coming off the bench. I think that he will also be helped by not having to be THE leader of the team.

1. TP
2. ROY
3. Kiki
4. MoLuke
5. GO

Backup 1 – Damon
2/3 – Paxon
4/5 – Sheed

by BlazersAx on Aug 7, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll pass on Drexler

And grab Sidney Wicks to round out my forward positions. I might even start him, if he outplays Vandeweigh.

C: Walton
PF: Lucas
SF: Vandeweigh
SG: Roy
PG: Lever
6: Wallace
7: Paxson
8: Wicks

Pretty high powered team, I must say. And one that is well balanced and ready to contend for a championship!

by jamon51 on Aug 7, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're the second one I've seen

talk about Wicks as a small forward. My memory’s a little dusty and I was a big fan of his (one of my first favorite players) but if memory serves he truly was more a power forward and didn’t have a great handle. In fact I’ve seen him listed as a Power forward / Center. It was the only reason I chose Natt over him as my only small.

If anybody can convince me he’s a small then I’ll swap out Natt for Wicks.

Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)

by LaughingJon on Aug 7, 2008 1:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

I wasn’t paying attention when Wicks was playing…his numbers looked good, and I was under the impression he was a PF/SF. I could be wrong!

by jamon51 on Aug 10, 2008 10:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jail blazers? Yikes.

For real, I’m putting these two guys back together: Rasheed Wallac & Bonzi Wells.
C Walton
PF Lucas
SF Kersey
SG Roy
PG Porter

6 Wallace
7 Petrovic
8 Wells

by jc burg on Aug 7, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the 50 Greatest - Got to take Drexler

Old team:
Walton
Lucas
Kiki
B-Roy
Fat Lever
Bench:
Aldridge
Paxson

New Team:
Walton
Aldridge (now a starter)
Kiki
Drexler
Fat
Bench:
Thompson
Natt
Paxson

by 10sGirl on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JJ

I’m going to continue my most unique, yet still effective roster on this site: Jim Jackson
I need another guard and Jackson can score, defend, and handle the ball in a crunch. He also knows the league well after having played for 12(!) NBA teams. Unfortunate that I can’t have him during this Dallas years, but he was still effective afterward

Sabonis
Lucas
Vandeweghe
Roy
Strickland

Wallace
Petrovic
Jackson

by MavetheGreat on Aug 7, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clyde yes...and Gross and Natt

Walton
Lucas
Kersey—now Bobby Gross
Petrie—now Clyde the Glide
Porter

Aldride
Petro
Calvin Natt

Inside, outside, offense and defense—lots of killer instinct.

by monsoon on Aug 7, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To Clyde or not to Clyde...

That is the question. On one hand I like my lineup but to have Clyde on the team makes it intreaging. If I was to select Clyde I would cut Kersey and Porter. I know that this sounds crazy ,but Drexler can play the small forward position and I would be able to keep Roy who is so versitale. I would pick up Damon To start at the Point and Mychal Thompson to handle backup center.

The question is do I want to loose Porters playmaking ability and Kerseys hustle for one of the best ever?

I’ll go for it because I would love to see how Clyde and Roy would play together.

Old lineup

C – Sabas
PF – Buck
SF – Kersey
SG – Roy
PG – Porter

Bench

C\PF\SF – Cliff
SG – Paxson

New Lineup

C – Sabas
PF – Buck
SF – Clyde
SG – Roy
PG – Damon

Bench

C – Mychal
C\PF\SF – Cliff
SG – Paxson

WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!

D Marty

by Dmartyparty on Aug 7, 2008 10:48 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something you can't do!

The way I understand the rules for taking Clyde, you have to drop your starting SG along with one other player. That means you can’t keep Roy. Would be sweet though.

by MavetheGreat on Aug 8, 2008 8:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're Right!!!

I missed that. so I’ll keep my current line up and add Mychal to the list.

D Marty

by Dmartyparty on Aug 8, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

[Very Long Post] A Blend of Youth and Veteran Leadership

After much deliberation, here is the team that I am putting on the floor:

C – Greg Oden
PF – Maurice Lucas
SF – Jerome Kersey
SG – Brandon Roy
PG – Terry Porter
6: Rasheed Wallace
7: Drazen Petrovic
8: Danny Ainge

I’d like to believe that the team that I have put together has the ideal blend of youth, leadership, and chemistry (don’t laugh Sheed haters, explanation to follow).

Center – If I were picking purely on the basis of contribution to franchise history, this pick would have been Walton. But alas, while my blog alias brought glory to the great City of Portland and left generations yearning for a parade on Broadway of their own, the Big Red Dead Head’s career was marred by leg injuries that left him a shadow of the player he had been. And although he later won a second ring as a key reserve as a member of the Celtics, Walton never seemed to recover from the injuries or the hangover of reaching the pinnacle in 1977. With all due respect to Walton, Arvydas Sabonis was arguably the greatest passing center in the history of the game. Had Sabonis joined the Blazers when he was expected to, Portland may have a few more banners and fond memories of different parades up Broadway. And while Kevin Duckworth did yeoman work in the middle for the Blazers on the early 90s Blazers teams in contention for the title, Sabonis likely would have vaulted Portland into untouchable territory and perhaps one of the greatest teams of all time. Sadly, the one called Sabas opted to stay in Europe, further damaged his wobbly legs, and by the time he reached the NBA could scarcely step over a thin piece of paper let alone run the floor and dunk with the ferocity of his youth now only seen in grainy YouTube tributes. Sabonis was a crafty and productive player for Portland late in his career, but never could overcome the pure brute strength of nemesis Shaquille O’Neal. Greg Oden has yet to play a game for the Blazers and his future as The Next Great Big Man is far from certain. But, I need to believe that Oden will become the championship anchor that we have all been waiting for.

Power Forward – Not even close. Lucas is the nastiest power forward to ever play the game. Buck Williams was a working class hero and the unheralded key to the success of the Blazers of the early 90s, but nobody else is The Enforcer. I only wish that I could see Maurice suit up in his prime and protect Oden’s back.

Small Forward – A very tough call. Kiki Vandeweghe is exactly the type of offensive player that would open up the floor for the Blazers and allow Oden and Lucas to operate inside. Kiki could shoot the lights out, but never realized his second calling as a matador. Kersey brings the energy and passion to this starting lineup. No front line in the world would want to have to go up against Kersey, Lucas, and Oden in a froth.

Shooting Guard – Obviously Clyde Drexler is the greatest Blazer to ever play the position of shooting guard for Portland. Drexler needs to be on any All-Time Blazer team. Clyde is a first ballot HOF player and probably the single best Blazer in history. But again, I am going for potential and youth over the known quantity. And leadership. Consider Roy’s TUP (tremendous upside potential) compared to Drexler’s career for a moment: 1) Roy was a starter from Day 1 as a Blazer (granted he played for a miserable Blazers team), Clyde came off the bench his first couple of seasons. 2) Roy was named Rookie of the Year. 3) Roy made his first All Star appearance as a reserve in his second year, Clyde made it in his 3rd season. 4) Leadership: Roy became the de facto and undisputed team leader midway through his rookie year in the soon-to-be-legendary confrontation with faux team leader Zach Randolph. Clyde, as great as he was, never really was a leader in the traditional sense until very late in his career. Clyde was the best player on his team, but left a void in leadership which was filled by Terry Porter. If Roy continues his ascension at the rate he has started, championship dreams and the potential to become the all-time favorite of Blazer fans is not too far fetched.

Point Guard – Terry Porter may be my favorite Blazer of all time so I am biased with this pick. Rod Strickland was one of the most exciting PGs I’ve ever seen in a Blazer uniform, but Terry had the cojones and swagger of a leader. A perfect compliment to Clyde Drexler or Brandon Roy in the backcourt.

Bench – The notorious Rasheed Wallace was a tough choice over the youthful Aldridge. However, having already filled my youth quotient on my team with Roy and Oden, I opted for Mr. T. Say what you will about Sheed, but he is considered one of the great teammates in the NBA. And while he is an often frustrating player who has never fully met his potential to be great, Wallace is one of the great defensive players in the game and one of the smartest. As a basketball player, LaMarcus Aldridge appears to be a younger version of Sheed without the baggage. But I still take Sheed’s court savvy and willingness to play team ball over individual attributes for my all time team. My team as constituted so far desperately needs outside shooting. Petro became a 20 ppg scorer when set free in New Jersey before his life ended tragically early in a car accident. His deadly range would keep defenses honest against Roy’s penetration and Oden’s presence in the paint. Home grown Danny Ainge fills out my roster. Even on the downside of his career, Ainge brought scrappiness and heart to the floor. Plus he can step in at point guard on occasion and keep defenses honest with his outside shot. Plus he plays the role of villain well.

Whew…that felt good to get off my chest. Now where’s that parade?

by BigRedDeadHead on Aug 8, 2008 12:06 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sidney Wicks

I’ll take Wicks as my last player.

My team is about chemistry and talent. And I believe Sid will be the last piece in my puzzle.

C-Arvydas Sabonis
PF-Maurice Lucas
SF-Scottie Pippen
SG-Geoff Petrie
PG-Lafeyette Lever
bench-Drazen Petrovic
bench-Sidney Wicks

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Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii

by Outlaw is Rejector on Aug 8, 2008 12:55 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry

How could I ever forget LaMarcus Aldridge??!

Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii

by Outlaw is Rejector on Aug 8, 2008 12:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is devastating

We’re told Clyde isn’t available, so I built my whole team around not having him. I counted on Petrie’s outside shooting. Now, I have to choose between restructuring my whole approach or ignoring a Hall of Famer.

I’ve got Oden, Lucas, Vandeweghe, Petrie, and Porter, with Lamarcus and Paxson off the bench. I had the best shooting team of anyone here.

My obvious pickup today is Calvin Natt. Which means the starter (alongside Petrie) I can most afford to lose is Kiki, if I pick up Drexler. There goes my shooters. So if I lose Petrie, I can’t drop Kiki. It’s not as if Clyde is really a shooter.

I can’t drop Porter, there are no PGs left that even come close. I can’t drop Oden, there are no Cs left that come close.

So that means if I want Clyde, I’ve got to drop Lucas. LMA can shift into the starting lineup, that’s not bad. He might be as good, or better. Now I would need a utility big man. Wicks, Neal, Grant, Thompson.

Wicks. Four years over 20 ppg, 6 over 15 ppg, 6 years over 9 rpg, 4 time all-star—but his best years were on bad teams, and he made all-star when someone from every team made it. Winner? Not really, from my perspective. Great stats, but he was never a favorite of mine. Played PF, but would probably struggle with today’s PFs and be SF today, and might not be quick enough. Can’t back up center.

Lloyd Neal. Shorter career than Wicks, never all-star. Averaged a double-double as a rookie. Great team player, would fill a role on a good team. Before his injury in 1978, backing up two great players in Lucas and Walton, he averaged 11 points and 6 rebounds in only 19 mpg (!!!). That is exactly what you want off your bench. Can back up PF or center, though would struggle against the really big centers. But he played a lot of center for us.

Brian Grant. We don’t get his first three seasons. Neal’s production but in more minutes. Played on some really good winning teams. Really a good player. I like Grant. Can’t really slot him in at center.

Mychal Thompson. Good long career, and we get all those years. 20-11 in 81-82. Durable. Averaged 13.7/7.4 career, and those numbers were seriously reduced by his last few years with the L@kers, when his minutes were down. Can I forgive him for playing for that team? Well, we traded him away first. Can back up PF or center well. Classic tweener.

Choice has to be Mychal.

So that’s the deal. Trade Petrie and Lucas for Drexler and Thompson, and slot LMA in as the starter at PF, with Mychal backing up both PF and C. Might even start Mychal for a year or two.

I think you have to make that trade.

So I’ve got:
Oden
LMA
Kiki
Clyde
TP

Mychal
Natt
Paxson

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Aug 8, 2008 2:12 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My team and depth chart so far:

Oden
Buck
Kiki
Roy
Porter
LMA
Drazen

C – Oden/LMA
PF – LMA/Buck
SF – Kiki/Drazen
SG – Roy/Drazen
PG – Porter/Roy

With a starting 5 of Oden/LMA/Kiki/Roy/Porter I have a good blend of defense in the middle, good shooters and play makers. When Oden sits LMA moves over to the 5 and Buck comes in. At backup wing I can put Drazen at either SG or SF and at PG I can slide Roy over to PG when Porter sits. I think the biggest need is a player who can fit with Roy when he is playing PG. For that I will take Bayless.

Final Roster
Oden
Aldridge
Kiki
Roy
Porter

Buck
Petrovic
Bayless

Brett Pill - Lord of the double.

by malarky on Aug 8, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Clyde

Tempted to take Bowie and show Clyde how it feels.

Taking Martell Webster instead. So the man who is better than Chris Paul and Deron Williams now edges out the man who is better than Michael Jordan. Seems fitting! Web must be really good.

Oden
Lucas
Aldridge
Kersey
Webster
Roy
Lever
Petrovich

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Aug 8, 2008 12:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ODEN

Please be the chosen one!

by moses on Aug 9, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ODEN

OOPS! dont know how to read. I will go with Sidney Wicks.

by moses on Aug 9, 2008 8:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm thinking ading the last guy...

... has been the toughest decision of all.

Passing on Clyde is not as hard as I thought. In some ways, the easiest method to pick the greatest Blazer team ever is to either take the 77 starters and add three players or take the 90’s Blazers (who I believe were the better team) and add Sabonis and a couple of other picks. However that would eliminate having any of our current young Blazers. That’s something I can’t do. I have this feeling that Portland is on the cusp of greatness and not including any of the key players who will bring that greatness would be a huge mistake. Therefore I’m going to pass on Clyde.

As for my final selection. Several names stood out. Brian Grant, Stacy Augman, Mario Ellie, Danny Ainge, Sidney Wicks, Joel Pryzbilla and Chris Dudley, Outlaw, Webster and a few more. Looking at my roster, I have a backup bigman and a scorer off the bench. That leaves a defensive stopper, preferrably at SF. My first choice would be Scotty Pippen, but he’s off the board. Leaving Brian Grant off the team is tough, as few players ever put their heart and soul into playing like he did. I really don’t have a backup PG, so Danny Ainge or Greg Anthony or Danny Young, or even Steve Blake would be a nice complementary piece. But I need a wing defender. That shortens my list to Stacey Augman and Ime Udoka. Pretty much flip a coin, as I’d take either one.

My lineup

Oden
Buck Williams
Kersey
Roy
Porter

Aldridge
Drazen
Augman/Udoka

Dave – you have to let us round out the team to at least 12.

Like:

5 foul man – Dudley or Pryzbilla
Backup PG – see above
Hot young draft pick – Webster/O’Neill/Rudy/Bayless
Project – Outlaw/Batum/Khryapa

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by timg56 on Aug 11, 2008 7:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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