Blazer love from a L*kers site
I was looking for the 08-09 schedule and stumbled across this. Not sure if the post was from an actual Laker fan or not but this is a Laker fan site. Either way, it's nice to know the world is watching what we're doing here in Portland! Look for the post on the 22nd, it should be at the top. I LOVE it when he says:
"Hate to be a pessimist but I was looking at Blazers line-up next year and its a little scary"
http://www.clublakers.com/forums/2008-2009-opening-day-line-up-blazers-match-up-t100069.html
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The L@ker fans at that site fall into two camps
The “The Blazers are scary” camp and the “Show me, we’ll see” camp. I love the rising stink of fear in L@kerland…
More comments about the Blazers at another post on that site.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Aug 4, 2008 3:57 PM PDT 0 recs
I love this line from their site:
I really wonder how Pritchard does it, maybe something like this:Portland/Indiana Trade:
Bird: Hello?
Pritchard: Hey hows it going Larry it’s Kevin, I thought that you would possibly be interested in a trade.
Bird: Sure, what did you have in mind?
Pritchard: Well i was thinking Jarrett Jack, McRoberts and the rights to Brandon Rush for the rights to Jerryd Bayless.
Bird: Not interested in that deal, we are really high on Bayless, but thanks for the offer anyways Kevin.
Pritchard: Does it change your mind that I have your wife and kids tied up in my office?
Bird: Very funny, Kevin…..
Larry’s wife Dinah, and kids Connor and Mariah are heard screaming
Pritchard: Larry, I dont play games on draft night.
Larry: Ok just dont hurt my family, I agree to the deal! I’ll even give you Ike Diogu.
Pritchard: Nice doing buisness with you Larry.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Aug 4, 2008 4:02 PM PDT 6 recs
No wonder other teams think the Blazers are scary.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on
Aug 4, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
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Naaah...
Everyone knows it goes like this:
Portland/Indiana Trade:
Bird: Hello?
K.P.: Hey hows it going Larry it’s Kevin, I thought that you would possibly be interested in a trade.
Bird: Sure, what did you have in mind?
K.P.: Well i was thinking Jarrett Jack, McRoberts and the rights to Brandon Rush for the rights to Jerryd Bayless.
Bird: Not interested in that deal, we are really high on Bayless, but thanks for the offer anyways Kevin.
K.P.: Bayless is not the guard you are looking for.
Bird: (in monotone voice) Bayless is not the guard I am looking for.
K.P.: You really want Jarrett Jack and Brandon Rush.
Bird: (monotone) I really want Jack and Rush.
K.P. Thanks, Larry!
Bird: (somewhat dazedly) But…but the contracts don’t match up.
K.P. I’ll throw in McRoberts, too. Did you like ‘Superbad, Larry?’
Bird: (confused now) Yeah.
K.P. Did I tell you his nickname is “McLovin’”?
Bird: Really, cool! We’ll take him.
K.P. Bye, Larry!
Bird: Bye, Kevin.
K.P.: (To Paul Allen) The force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.
Paul Allen: The force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded. Move along.
by DonkeyShins on
Aug 4, 2008 10:37 PM PDT
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I love it
This is not the gaurd you are looking for…
Classic.
I am the master of my fate, I am the Captain of my soul. - Charles Wesley
by Earl on
Aug 6, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
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Hahahha that's the best.
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on
Aug 4, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
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this NEEDS to be green
"If I was in anyway unclear, I am implying that Dave is a serial murderer."
---jonestr on Aug 3, 2008 12:25 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on
Aug 4, 2008 7:06 PM PDT
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I'll even give you Ike Diogu!
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on
Aug 5, 2008 8:05 AM PDT
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They still don't really see Roy as a great player.
Which to me is funny because first off they think Roy is older than he is, and second if they compared Roy’s 2nd year numbers to Kobe’s third year numbers (they played almost the same amount of minutes) they would see the the differences between the two are mostly not even single digit, with Roy beating out Kobe in some aspects. Sure Kobe was younger but he had more time in the NBA at that point. They talk about Roy like he’s 30 and been in the league for 7 years.
Other than that they seem pretty level headed at that site for fans of ‘that team’
by Bskey on Aug 4, 2008 4:07 PM PDT 0 recs
I like this quote.
“I agree, but they are too young to be anything close to a contender. IMO the next 3-5 Years will be remembered as Kobe’s years (3 titles, 1 more MVP, 2 Finals MVP, DPOY, Olympic Gold, etc). “
There’s some homerisum for ya.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 4, 2008 4:10 PM PDT 0 recs
Dont make fun of the special kids
They dont know any better
Shaniqua don't live here no more... Is Shaniqua there, HELL NO!
by GreatOden'sRaven on
Aug 5, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
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We do the same thing on this site
... but we’re smart so it’s ok.
I am the master of my fate, I am the Captain of my soul. - Charles Wesley
by Earl on
Aug 6, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
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Today I read a post on the General NBA forum on ESPN that said "Kobe hate must stop today"
Link. Phew, good that we just finished the “How much do you hate them” weekend before this official order came in.
Odenied: Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
by Norsktroll on Aug 4, 2008 4:19 PM PDT 0 recs
Thoughts on Roy
I know he came into the league as a senior out of college, but to say he has hit his celing already is a little over the top don’t you think?
by SalemORguy on Aug 4, 2008 4:29 PM PDT 0 recs
Not really
I mean you can just tell Roy is going to decline over the next few years. It’s written all over him. But Andrew Bynum…now THERE’S a guy who’s going to have a Hall-of-Fame career. I mean, did you see his stats for those three weeks?!? Seriously, he’s the difference in leading the L*kers to the Promised Land. And he’s not at all injury-prone…unlike Greg Oden in Portland.
—Dave
by Dave on
Aug 4, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
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Another expert analysis by Dave
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on
Aug 4, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
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you gotta admit
Bynum was putting up some incredibly efficient numbers. His PER was in the top 12 in the league.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
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The key sentence is "for those three weeks"
If we look at isolated performances over relatively short stretches, our #1 target this summer should have been a trade for Ramon Sessions and not for Jerry Bayless. Hey, he might be the next Chris Paul or Steve Nash. But why did nobody see that in the draft?
Odenied: Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
by Norsktroll on
Aug 4, 2008 5:25 PM PDT
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sure
He still needs to prove he can do it for a season, but he played 35 games last year (a bit more than 3 weeks) and put up outstanding numbers.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:39 PM PDT
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Sessions case is different
But if healthy, there is nothing to suggest Bynum won’t be the same good player he was before.
Sessions mostly benefited from hot gunners and low end-of-season competition. He played well, but it’s not the same as the big minutes and real games Bynum was playing in, and doing well in.
Like I’ve been saying, if healthy, Bynum will be pretty good. I don’t think he’ll be as good as Oden (eventually not even close), but I think Bynum will be a rich man’s Chandler and a VERY good rival for Oden for their careers.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 4, 2008 6:24 PM PDT
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A little off subject.
But I seem to remember Rex Grossmen putting up amazing numbers for a couple of weeks but then he couldn’t keep it together for a whole season.
by RipCityRoyCity on
Aug 4, 2008 9:01 PM PDT
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In a word: No.
Dave has never been sarcastic in his entire life. And neither have I. A couple of very serious-minded individuals, we.
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by T Darkstar on
Aug 4, 2008 6:55 PM PDT
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T Darkstar's being sarcastic, right?
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on
Aug 5, 2008 8:13 AM PDT
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In a word: No.
"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"
by timbo on
Aug 5, 2008 11:22 AM PDT
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Actually
That’s a word and a period.
I am the master of my fate, I am the Captain of my soul. - Charles Wesley
by Earl on
Aug 6, 2008 1:50 PM PDT
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Preaching to the choir
I called in to a sports talk station here and mentioned that and the hosts lost their mind. I told them i was a Blazer fan and in my opinion Oden has proved just as much as Bynum. 3 weeks does not a career make.. and yet they were utterly offended. I also stated I thought bynum needed to learn to play the high post considering Pau cant shoot to good and has excellent post moves. they were appalled.
hehe
thank the lord I didnt say that to Vic the Brick (the worst homer in the world of homers, you guys would throw up if you had to listen to the homerism) or he would have put a hit out on me.
Shaniqua don't live here no more... Is Shaniqua there, HELL NO!
by GreatOden'sRaven on
Aug 5, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
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How good we are basically comes down to
How good Greg Oden is, if he’s a dominant center, we win championships.
Secondly, it’s hard to say if a player has hit his ceiling when he is only 23. Basketball is a game of skill, how proficient you are at those skills combined with your athletic ability determines how effective of a player you are. I’d say that with how skilled Roy is, with his high basketball IQ, work ethic, and court vision, combined with his underrated athletic ability he has pretty good potential. He’s such a smooth player than doesn’t seem to overexert himself, so it seems like “this is as good as he is going to be”, that might not be true.
After all people pegged his ceiling lower than what it is right now. Averaging 20/6/5 a game so consistently by a second year player is an impressive accomplishment. i
If you had a young (23yr old) unnamed player, who
has a 40inch vertical
scored 20 a game,
showed signs of being a 6’6” point guard,
became a lock down defensive player during key possessions (see The Streak, Joe Johnson, Carmelo Anthony)
acted as THE leader of his team
I’m sure many people would go “wow this guy might be a superstar in a few years”
I think a lot of people say that Roy has no upside because of the 2006 draft and the repeated pundit statement “he’s an NBA ready player, he’s not going to get much better”.
The numbers probably won’t prove it, but I’d bet the Roy of 2010 is a much better player than the Roy of 2008. His game is so focused on the team aspect of basketball, he doesn’t have 35, 40,50 pt games, that doesn’t mean he isn’t an amazing basketball talent. If he improves his 3pt shooting and his FT shooting, he will be one of the most complete and balanced NBA shooting guards.
I’d say OJ Mayo’s ceiling is Brandon Roy. Upside and potential are usually thrown around to the point that they are more based on perception and hype than actual basketball skill.
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It's just a dying fiction
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by Dheepan on Aug 4, 2008 4:46 PM PDT 12 recs
You are on a roll today
I dont think OJ ’s ceiling is BRoy’s. Especially b/c I dont know if Roy’s ceiling is even determinable , well based on your definition. Anyway, mostly all the way correct just dont know how OJ may is relevant except to show the hype surrounding a player.
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by BlazerFan1 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
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+1
...and you KNOW my +1s come with a rec attached.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on
Aug 4, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
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go green sir!
Rule #1 of nitpicking is to get it right.
by douglast on
Aug 4, 2008 7:40 PM PDT
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Nice summation
I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.
by JAB21 on
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Someone has been drinking Koolaid
“I cant wait til Bynum funks it on Oden. He’ll show that old man how to play some ball.”
That, my friends, will not happen. Ever. I’ll ban myself 2 weeks for every dunk Bynum gets over Oden.
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on Aug 4, 2008 4:53 PM PDT 0 recs
I agree
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
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by BlazerFan1 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:00 PM PDT
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I'll one-up you
I’ll ban myself for a month after every funk Bynum gets over Oden. We all know that Oden is funkier than any big man in the league!
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on
Aug 4, 2008 5:03 PM PDT
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Oden way better than Bynum
But Bynum was good when he was healthy, and anyone can steal a dunk or two over even the best players in the world SOMETIME.
Of course, if Bynum steadily outplayed Oden for a few games, or a career, then I’d be surprised. If anything Bynum was proof that a big, athletic, huge big man with no offense can really make an impact by just being bigger and huger than any of the stiffs who play center today.
Plus having Kobe distract the defense and living off of gimme-dunks and garbage buckets helps too.
If Bynum can do that, Oden can do that at LEAST. For guys that big and athletic (and Oden is more so in both regards), 13/10/2 comes just by stepping on the court.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 4, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
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I can't let you get away...
... with saying Bynum has no offense. He’s got very good hands, is great on lob passes and has pretty good touch from in close. He has to prove he can do it for a full season, but he was playing at an allstar level before he went down.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:08 PM PDT
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But I got away with it--
—and more! MUAHAHAHAHA.
Bynum was a dunker, he didn’t have a good touch as far as I could see, but he didn’t need one. His points were off of putbacks, lobs, and gimmes… similar to Chandler, and I would also say Chandler has ‘no offense’ to speak of.
BUT, he still gets points by being taller and more athletic than anyone else, and having a playmaker who can put him in easy spots to score.
Bynum does have good hands, which is a big part he can take advantage of his size and the focus a Kobe or Paul gets on offense. This is a big reason Joel can’t do what Bynum does, aside from Joel’s lack of big ups anymore. I watched my fair share of Laker games, and Bynum doesn’t exactly have a soft touch.
He could certainly develop it and for a young big man he was very good, so I don’t think I’m belittling how he played last season. He was great and looked to only improve. If he finally comes back from his injury healthy, he’ll bolster a frontline that desperately needed someone big and athletic to help out Gasol and Odom.
BUT, his offense wasn’t as good as what Oden showed in college and summer league, and Oden appears to have that soft touch that still eludes Dwight Howard and seemed to not be in Bynum’s arsenal yet.
I don’t think I’m out of line in saying Bynum has a limited offensive game, or ‘no offense’, on his own. Not to take away from what he and Chandler do of course, because not everyone is big/athletic enough to score how they do. But, it isn’t necessarily skill that would translate to every situation. You put LMA on a team, and he can score without a lot of help. I figure Oden will be the same soon enough.
You put Bynum or Chandler on a team without a playmaker to draw the focus of the defense, and they aren’t put in a position to score because they can’t do it on their own.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 4, 2008 6:21 PM PDT
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I rec'd it just for this part
But I got away with it——and more! MUAHAHAHAHA.
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on
Aug 5, 2008 8:00 AM PDT
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I rec'd cause you did just for that part
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on
Aug 5, 2008 12:47 PM PDT
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and i rec'd it cause ive allways wanted to be a part of something bigger then me.
"If I was in anyway unclear, I am implying that Dave is a serial murderer."
---jonestr on Aug 3, 2008 12:25 AM PDT
Email Dave,
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by ptwnblzr on
Aug 5, 2008 6:16 PM PDT
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uh oh
Dude Bynum will dunk on Oden. It will happen. Maybe not OVER Oden, but certainly with Oden in the area.
Despite Oden’s looks, though, he’s still younger than Bynum.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:06 PM PDT
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now now
no more oaths and pledges about banning oneself if something happens. Fatty did that and we still miss him, the darn fool.
Winning is everything.
by MT Suit on
Aug 4, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
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Oh no we don't
Jerry Sloan is a complete and total smeg head.
by GustyJ on
Aug 4, 2008 7:18 PM PDT
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+1
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on
Aug 4, 2008 7:33 PM PDT
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Congratulations, GustyJ
You win the prize for the shortest rec’d comment ever at BE.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on
Aug 5, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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fully agree +1
I am the master of my fate, I am the Captain of my soul. - Charles Wesley
by Earl on
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that was a wonderful find
read it all, so now i kant vote becouse a lott of those guys were kinda smart. save the comment just posted above. and the fact that some of them thought that oden was at best just going to be average. you know what, on second thoght, i think its my sivic duty to vote.
"If I was in anyway unclear, I am implying that Dave is a serial murderer."
---jonestr on Aug 3, 2008 12:25 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on Aug 4, 2008 4:55 PM PDT 0 recs
Interesting
that almost all of their posters, believe that if the portland players all become as good as everyone thinks they can, that Portland won’t be able to afford to keep all of them. Maybe they don’t remember how much PA loves to spend on his team if they are close to a title.
by usmcr3049 on Aug 4, 2008 5:15 PM PDT 0 recs
Didn't you hear?
Paul Allen doesn’t even really like sports, he’s just a business man. He won’t spend money unless he gets about 4x the amount back in money. That is according to a very wise and all knowing l*ker fan.
by Bskey on
Aug 4, 2008 5:21 PM PDT
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Wise L*ker fan?
See Poll above….lol.
(I know you just playin’)
by Brannon49 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:23 PM PDT
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haha
If owners are in the NBA to make money, they probably aren’t good businessmen.
They don’t seem to get that Paul Allen can afford whatever he wants, and the “well they’re good but wait till the rookie deals are up” argument is a popular one right now as a way to dismiss the potential of the Blazers. In this situation, it doesn’t make sense as all of the kids we got are great kids and the best players out of the group will EASILY be kept with big money if they are worth it.
The only way we lose one of our guys is if they aren’t very good (or not the right player for us in a few years), or if they want to be the main guy elsewhere and are willing to take less money to be the Top Dogg (for example, someone like Bayless might be good enough to one day be the 1st option on a team, but never for the Blazers. Of course, we can pay him all the money he deserves if he’s that good, so it won’t be a money issue).
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 4, 2008 6:27 PM PDT
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Ya, it took them a while, but one Faker got it right....
who do you pay…all of them, your talking about a microsoft billionaire owner
props to justwar for realizing the obvious….
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on
Aug 4, 2008 6:47 PM PDT
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Hmm, "according to a very wise and all knowing l*ker fan." Oxymoron.
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by annthefan on
Aug 4, 2008 7:27 PM PDT
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Riddle me this Batman
Oxymoron=What you get when you cross Zit Cream and a Laker Fan
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by 92wastheyear on
Aug 4, 2008 7:30 PM PDT
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Sebum is the scientific term
But it is normally called pus
by southern oregon on
Aug 4, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
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I see a bunch of optimism for us
which was very surprising. I read the linked thread, down at the bottom, and came away with that sense.
Also, leakbrewergator is the personification of the worst parts of the internet.
by usdblazerfan on Aug 4, 2008 5:23 PM PDT 0 recs
Chicano
Is scared. And emphatic about it. Didn’t have much to say, but what he did say was telling.
^ You gotta’ be ——me man.. obviously you did not have league pass & watch these guys. PLUS all the hard times they gave US. They are absolutely STACKED and will only CONTINUE to improve. They won’t be an elite team for at least couple of more years? You said it. Next season, I will hunt this quote of yours down and show you how wrong you were.
He knows, he KNOWS.
And you don't eat crackers in the bed of your future, otherwise you might get....all scratchy.
by shenanigans on Aug 4, 2008 6:58 PM PDT 6 recs
Yep
Too many pessimists around here. 55 wins, and elite team this year. Book it. Those L@ker fans know it, and some of them are admitting it.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on
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+1
Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.
by KP Corleone on
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Award for egregious homerism goes to....
One of the Site moderators…. congrats!!!!
all young players…they can’t afford to keep them all and they don’t really need any of these young guys…they need some veterans around Oden, Roy and Outlaw…they don’t get it tho. They don’t scare me at all right now.
Apparently we don’t need our youngsters and he fails to recognize that LMA is in our big 3, not Outlaw. He might be right that we need some vets, but this group(- 3 young studs in Oden, Rudy, and J-bay) went 41-41 as the 3rd youngest team in NBA history, veterens-shmeterens…..
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Aug 4, 2008 7:00 PM PDT 0 recs
Roy is our "veteran"
I don’t know when people will finally realize that. He’s the glue that binds and makes the whole thing stay together. James Jones was a perfect compliment “off-the-bench” veteran for the Blazers. They don’t need a superstar veteran, just someone who can help out and provide guidance when needed.
Beaver believer!
by mannyfresh1 on
Aug 4, 2008 8:06 PM PDT
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kant blake and przybilla and even lafriends(lol)
be considered veterens? I think other people are just trying to confort themselve, and looking for a way to dismiss us. or there jus

