Sergio vs. Petteri: An In-Depth Analysis (w/poll)
Since we already have three point guards on our roster, I can understand why bringing Petteri over might seem to be wasting a roster spot. Should K.P. and company decide to sign him, he’d likely be competing with Sergio Rodriguez for playing time. Going on that assumption, I’ve broken down both players games, category by category, and see how a competition between those two might play out.
Passing: Arguably the most important trait for a point guard to possess, both players are at least adequate at it. Sergio has the ability to thread the needle on a bounce pass between two guys to a teammate for a dunk. Petteri, meanwhile, is not as flashy, but also not quite as prone to making the bad pass that leads to a fast break.
Edge: Sergio (slightly). While last year was definitely a step back for Spanish Chocolate (2.3 to 1 assist-to-turnover ratio last season versus 2.87-1 as a rookie), he’s a proven commodity to be at least a decent passer at the NBA level, while Koponen is yet to play against top level competition on a regular basis.
Ball Handling: Along with passing, this is where point guards make their money. Both players during their most recent summer league stints, did a large majority of the ball-handling.
Edge: Sergio. While Koponen could eventually be as adept as Sergio with the ball, Rodriguez’ ability to dribble equally well with both hands makes the difference here.
Defense: The old adage, “Defense wins championships”, has definitely held true for most of the past decade. Even the L*kers of the early 2000’s played solid defense. Throw in teams like San Antonio, Detroit and, most recently, the Boston Celtics, and it really underscores how important a facet defense truly is.
Edge: Petteri. We’ve yet to see if he can do it on a consistent basis against top competition, but he’s shown a willingness to work hard on both ends of the court, and also get back on ‘D’ to prevent the fast break during Summer League.
Shooting: Everybody who has ever played basketball enjoys seeing their shot fall through the hoop. For these guys, its no different.
Edge: Koponen (slightly). Both players in their most recent summer league (Sergio in 2007, Petteri in 2008) showed flashes of brilliance and also areas of their shot that need work. Both players percentage were similar, and you could argue that Sergio had more to work with in those games than did Petteri this year. This could change to a push or even advantage Rodriguez if shooting coach John Townsend was able to get Sergio’s mechanics straightened away.
Stats: The only fair way I can seem to relate the two players is by comparing their most recent summer league exploits. So for that, we’ll use Sergio’s 2007 and Petteri’s 2008 VSL stats.
Rodriguez:
28.0 Minutes, 7.8 points, 4.0 rebounds, 5.4 assists, 1.8 steals, 3.6 turnovers, 38.9 FG%.
Koponen:
31.0 Minutes, 13.2 points, 2.6 rebounds, 3.4 assists, 1.0 steals, 3.2 turnovers, 38.0 FG%.
Edge: Push. Rodriguez had the edge in assists and steals, as well as a slightly higher field goal percentage. But if you look at the talent surrounding the two players, you’d see Sergio had Martell for five games, as well as both Aldridge and Oden for two games. While Petteri did play alongside the VSL Most Outstanding Rookie in Jerryd Bayless took some pressure off of him, having next to no frontcourt help gave Sergio an advantage.
Intagibles: On one hand, you have someone in Sergio who sees the floor very well, and can (sometimes) squeeze a ball through a small passing lane, but can also be a little bit of a headcase if things aren’t going his way. On the other hand, you have a big point guard in Koponen, who works hard on defense and has a more fundamentally sound shot and seems to take things more positively if they aren’t going his way. He’s also shown the desire to compete against the best, as he’s bypassing millions of dollars by wanting to play for Portland right now instead of taking the big money overseas.
Edge: Koponen (slightly). With a couple years of learning under a big former PG in Nate McMillan, he could at the very least be a very solid backup PG and has shown the willingness to work on both ends of the court, something Sergio still has trouble grasping at.
Conclusion:
Competition breeds success, so in that I hope that we do decide to bring Koponen over. It would push both him and Sergio to become better, which can only make the rest of our team better in both the short and long runs. Also, since we already invested three million dollars for his rights, he’d be a low risk, high reward kind of player (he’d make right around $900K this season). Should KP and company decide to do just that, we should have an exciting battle for the number three PG spot this year!
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Shooting should be HUGE in favor of Petteri
That flat shot of Sergios is terrible. I love Sergio bty, but I also love pk.
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by hobobob on
Aug 4, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
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Agreed...
I cringe whenever I see Sergio take a three, and then the cringe sticks for a few possessions, even if he makes it
by inroywetrust on
Aug 4, 2008 1:50 PM PDT
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yah but he was hitting pretty wel his rooky year, right?
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by ptwnblzr on
Aug 4, 2008 2:57 PM PDT
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Yes
Sergio was one of the best in the NBA at shooting the long two (international three) his rookie year. However, he was well below average in most other spots.
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by hightide on
Aug 4, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
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Sergio
I like Petteri’s potential better, but he’s simply not ready.
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by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 1:49 PM PDT
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PK!
I think Sergio has a higher potential, but it won’t be realized with the Trail Blazers. PK is going to become more of what we’re looking for for this team.
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by rockingharder on
Aug 4, 2008 1:53 PM PDT
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I like PK
Don’t kid yourself. Petsku is ready to play in the NBA. He can shoot better than he showed. He could have had many more assists if anyone other than Bayless could shoot. And Bayless likes to dribble to the basket to take a hit then shoot. Not many assists there either. I would love to see Pete play against top competion. I believe within just a few games he was adapt his play. I gag when I think of how much he wants to play here, how good he is, how tall he is, how fast he is, how creative he is, how skilled he is, and we are going to give him up for a roster spot.
I hope KP is keeping it open with something in mind, and when that doesn’t materialize he will do the right thing. Well, knowing KP he will probably be doing the right thing no matter what he does. I could be wrong now. But I don’t think so!
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by Kampeska on
Aug 4, 2008 2:22 PM PDT
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Nice job
“Defense: The old adage, "Defense wins championships"
Edge: Petteri. We’ve yet to see if he can do it on a consistent basis against top competition, but he’s shown a willingness to work hard on both ends of the court, and also get back on ‘D’ to prevent the fast break during Summer League.”
I would like to add that Sergio is absolutely attrocious on defense. There is a double meaning to why Raef starting chanting “Ole! Ole!” when Sergio came down the aisle in Blazer 1. (If you can’t defend, you won’t play for Nate.)
All of which makes me think there is a difference of opinion between the Blazer’s coaching staff and the scouting department. Nate won’t trust Sergio with significant minutes because of his defensive liabilities, but KP and the front office love his potential, especially in a hypothetical backcourt tandem with Rudy.
Since the point guard position is already deep with Blake, Bayless and (occasionally) Roy, it makes more sense to keep a project like Koponen, rather than the “project” PG of the last 2 seasons, who already had a less-effective sophomore season than his rookie campaign. Here’s hoping a rival GM has a “jones” for Segio and makes Pritchard an offer he can’t refuse.
But I’m not holding my breath on that. There is a reason that team Espana is playing without Rodriguez this summer, and it’s not all about Rubio. If Sergio was “all that and a bag of chips” as a superior PG, he would’ve held onto his national team roster spot.
by two4larue on
Aug 4, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
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for what its worth...
The Blazers were actually slightly better defensively when Sergio was on the court last year. Its our offense that was awful when he played.
http://www.82games.com/0708/07POR2D.HTM
I understand why people are down on Sergio, but I’m surprised people are so high on Petteri. His ball handling was very mediocre in summer league. I think he’d have trouble getting the ball to halfcourt in the NBA.
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by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
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Agreed
Favoring the one hand could be deadly in the NBA.
He needs more time and better challenges (in euro land) before he’s ready to come over. I suspect Sergio could take him to town…
However… I like his mental far better than sergio who seems to have had a little break down.
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by ratbastird on
Aug 4, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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yup, Petteri is not a better point guard than Sergio, plain and simple...
People look at Sergio as flashy and automatically assume that means he makes overly flashy passes that end up in turnovers, thats not really true. His turnovers generally come when he dribbles himself into a tough spot and is forced into a bad decision, not from trying to split three guys with a no look bounce pass. Thats pretty common for young point guards, heck, Jack had three years of consistent playing time and still hadn’t figured that one out yet. Sergio also gets a fair amount of turnovers by making good passes that his teammates simply aren’t ready for because they aren’t use to playing with a guy that can thread the needle as well as Sergio. Sergio has handles and has proven he can handle NBA pressure, Petko got picked every single game trying to bring the ball up the floor, his handle is weak, his shot is overrated(Petkos 38% is not any better than Sergio’s 38%) and his defense was average at best against fairly mediocre competition.
Sergio has a vision for seeing the court that simply cant be taught, his natural feel for the pg position is off the charts in my opinion, thats why I think his ceiling is sky high. The problem is, he needs to play free or his skills are rendered useless. Its not surprising that his numbers went down as he tried to adjust his game to what Nate wanted him to do. You cant change a Steve Nash type of style into a Chauncey Billups type style. Unfortunately, I don’t think he will ever reach his potential under a coach like Nate, who is picky about his pg and wants them to play one way, which is very under control, and defensive minded. I am not saying Nate is wrong for thinking that way, its just that Sergio will never be a “Nate McMillan point guard”. It would be probably best to trade Sergio, hopefully to GS or NY where he will be given a chance to play his style of ball, I think he will do well if he gets a coach that will take the reins off and let him go….
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by myemic23 on
Aug 4, 2008 3:05 PM PDT
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Thank you
Sergio is has a mountain of potential… Too bad his confidence (and shot) got in the way last year.
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by hightide on
Aug 4, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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Agreed, Nate will not tolerate turnovers
and poor defense. Magic Johnson made tons of turnovers on his way to the finals.
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by OrygunRod on
Aug 4, 2008 9:00 PM PDT
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So, this doesnt explain why JJack got lots of PT.
by Odynasty on
Aug 5, 2008 1:30 PM PDT
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I dont think there is a good explanation to why JJack got lots of PT....
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by myemic23 on
Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM PDT
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maybe because...
... he was the only guy on the team other than Roy who even made an effort to take the ball to the hoop?
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by jksnake99 on
Aug 6, 2008 6:49 AM PDT
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better pencil in Bayless for as many minutes as Blake than....
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by myemic23 on
Aug 6, 2008 11:52 AM PDT
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Nicely done Myemic.
Those are my thoughts too.
I feel there is a possibility Sergio will be getting more playing time this year than most people expect, especially if Bayless doesn’t show any more ability at leading a team from the PG position than he did in Vegas. And Bayless is a rookie playing a difficult position. What I’m saying is there is an outside chance Sergio could become our #2 PG. On the other hand, if Bayless shows the ability to defend as some say he can, I’d suppose he will be racking up some minutes …. plus Nate appears to dislike Sergio (despite some awful performances by Jack last year, Nate still refused to give Sergio some burn).
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by TwoDeep on
Aug 6, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
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Disagree
If we are talking straight potential Sergio takes the cake no question. PK played pretty well in summer league, but his ceiling is probably not much higher than Steve Blake. I can’t see him being a quality starter in the NBA. I mean he could barely take the defensive pressure of some scrubs in the SL.
Sergio is extremely raw. He can’t shoot, is a piss poor defender, and he might not be strong enough to play extensive minutes. However, how many point guards in the NBA can throw half court alley-oop passes? His court vision is flat out amazing. If you want a project, you want one that has huge upside. I don’t think PK is that guy, I’m not even sure he’s even much more NBA ready than Sergio at this point. If Sergio can develop a jump shot and even a modicum of a defensive ability he will probably overtake Steve as backup PG.
There isn’t much harm in brining PK over. But if he can get a contract with easy buyout options to play for Portland, that’s probably the better choice for his development. With Bayless, Blake, Rudy, and Roy he’s barely going to see a crack of daylight into the rotation. It’s better for him to be a starter or sixth man for a Euro league team and gain some experience and then come over. If he doesn’t have these options, then yeah, go ahead and bring him over to PDX. But the d-league will definitely not be better than the Euro league as far as competition.
This whole thing might be a moot discussion though. If Rudy and Bayless prove to be good players, they will get all the remaining guard minutes in a few years. Leaving little to no playing time for a 4th guard.
If I was to prognosticate the future, I don’t see PK or Sergio on our team around 2010. They just aren’t good enough to be a valuable trade asset or rotation player. Around 2010 or 2011, I’d bet KP takes another high upside, 19(maybe 18 at that point), PG for the future. PK and Sergio may or not be recycled into that late 1st round pick, or just used as a trade throw in at some point.
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by Dheepan on
Aug 4, 2008 2:38 PM PDT
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With bayless
you’re probably right.
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by ratbastird on
Aug 4, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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I agree with dheepan
You saved me a lot of typing.
I don’t agree, nessessarallly with your final assessment of where they will end up but don’t know that it’s wrong either.
by Blazersaurus on
Aug 4, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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by amlmart1 on
Aug 5, 2008 7:48 AM PDT
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Sergio is raw, but
He’s not as raw as PetKo. Koponen is 2 years younger than Sergio and has a lot less experience playing against top competition. He has also improved a lot just in the last year. It seems reasonable to me to think that Koponen has at least as much untapped potential as Sergio does, and probably more.
by trk on
Aug 4, 2008 11:23 PM PDT
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Key in getting top Euroleague talent to sign with Portland
Edge: Rodriguez
Sergio has a free no trade/ “ambassador” pass through the All-Star break at least courtesty of his pal Rudy. Once Rudy is acclimated Sergio becomes expendable.
by Mad Matt the Road Warrior on
Aug 4, 2008 2:54 PM PDT
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I wish KP had told the clerk at the Verizon store if he wants to keep Sergio or Petteri
Who care how many home games we have in November ;-)
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by Norsktroll on
Aug 4, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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The difference between Sergio and Petteri
is that Sergio’s ceiling is Steve Nash, and Petteri’s is Steve Blake.
I doubt Sergio will ever be happy playing backup point, so he really needs to become a starter somewhere. I don’t see it happening in Portland.
If we’re looking at which player to keep, I’d say neither. Blake is a great backup at point and is a veteran. Sergio won’t get regular starter minutes unless he learns to play respectable defense and improves his shooting and decision-making. He doesn’t have enough time to make that happen.
When you add-in the fact that KP wants an open roster slot, I don’t see him signing Petteri unless he decides to unload Sergio.
If the Blazers let both Sergio and Petteri go, we’ll still have Roy, Rudy, J-Rod, and Blake, with enough minutes for everyone.
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by MiledAnimal on
Aug 4, 2008 4:12 PM PDT
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DraftExpress thinks Petteri's ceiling is Beno Udrih
Doesn’t make it much better, though, and that was probably before Udrih got a lot of playing time last season.
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by Norsktroll on
Aug 4, 2008 4:39 PM PDT
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Like some have said before me
PK has the talent to become a good PG, but there’s nothing I saw that would make me think he could become great at something. I like him a lot and think he could play in this league, but even if Sergio doesn’t work out it’s still hard to get PK any minutes.
Sergio on the other hand can make those insane passes, and we all know he has scoring ability in him. Rod worked with a shooting coach over the summer and he said his shot is looking good right now, come training camp I think we could start seeing a refreshed Sergio. Not making the national team I think was a wake up call for Sergio in that it’s not Nate that hates him, but he’s not getting minutes because his game is suffering. He’ll be coming in with a chip on his shoulder, and when all is said and done I can see Bayless and Sergio being the 1’s of this team. Blake has done a lot for this team but lets be honest he’s really just a placeholder until we can get someone better settled in. He would still be good to have around to steady a game if it’s getting too hectic but I don’t think he would want to play 2-5 minutes a game.
This is Sergio’s last chance to prove he belongs not only on the Blazers but in this league, I expect him to play hard and work on his weak spots. I mean really how cool would it be to have a GOOD Sergio playing next to Rudy? They know each others games well and I think having Rod as the go to bench PG would be perfect if he can get his act together.
by Bskey on
Aug 4, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
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Sergio's trade value
will increase with some playing time with Rudy on the court as well.
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by HurraKane212 on
Aug 4, 2008 5:19 PM PDT
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It's ridiculous how impatient we've gotten with our PGs
I blame Chris Paul and Deron Williams, but sometimes I see this things and I seriously wonder. I mean, wing is the easiest position in the league to play, and people have no problem with the fact that it took Travis 5 years to develop into a decent one and we’re completely willing to withhold judgement on webster until he gets a 4th season there. Batum is shaping up to get a similar grace period before he will sniff the bust label.
But at PG, the hardest position to play in the league, our view as fans is apparently that if you’re not well on your way to be a starter by the end of year two, you’re a bust. We were all ready to give up on Jack after 2 and a half years, ready to throw Sergio on the scrap heap after only 2 years, what’s next? If Bayless isn’t starting and averaging 5 apg by the all star break it’s time to look for someone new?
Admittedly, I know there’s a little less leeway trying to develop PGs since if you’re developing a PG, he’s doing the vast majority of developing and everyone else’s development is hurt because they’re not getting the ball where they can easily score and build confidence, which is why having a steady guy like Blake helps out Roy and LA’s development more, but there has to be a line somewhere. And before people jump on the fact that neither Sergio or Jack “showed” enough, check our both of their stats through 2 years compared with Nash and Parker, two of the best PGs in the west. The per minute numbers are ridiculously close, with Jack matching up well with the two guys in basically every category, and Sergio behind in shooting % but destroying them in assists per minute.
It’s a little different since both of those guys came into the league on really good teams, but that should make Sergio and Jack’s assist numbers even more impressive in comparison.
by Royster on
Aug 4, 2008 6:18 PM PDT
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omg
your my new hero!!!
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by ptwnblzr on
Aug 4, 2008 6:26 PM PDT
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I think Sergio's stock is a little down right now in most people's opinion, while Koponen is the unknown new toy
- Didn’t make the Spanish national team. People would have accepted that turnover/assists marvel Calderon and teenager prodigy Ricky Rubio are better, but being left off the team for former Utah scrub Raul Lopez is a little bit much.
- Didn’t hit a lot of shots last year (and displayed an ugly flat shot)
- Gambled on a number of passes
I for one would be happy to keep him around for at least another year, if only to see how well he plays together with Rudy. The problem that could come up is he mainly blames not getting on the Olympic team on not getting enough minutes from Nate. Probably rightly so. And that situation won’t change much, now that he still has Blake and an upgrade over Jarett Jack in front of him. His ceiling isn’t reached yet, not even close if he manages to convert his creativity into tangible results, but will he reach it on the Blazers? He might demand to be traded to a team where he can be the #2 by February (Miami, Phoenix, ...). Or he might want to know by then if the team will likely pull the option on him next year. Otherwise he also might just go back to Europe once his contract is up in 2009 or 2010 (TO) a la his countryman Navarro?
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by Norsktroll on
Aug 4, 2008 6:47 PM PDT
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I do agree that Sergio's long term future probably isn't here
unless he someone comes out of the gate on fire this year and keeps Bayless from earning big minutes right away. Not likely, but I’d say there’s a slim chance of that (~5-10%). I’m not saying Sergio’s going to be him, but Nash was in a similar situation. His first two years in Phoenix the team had J-Kidd and KJ on the tail end of his prime. No matter how good Nash was, he wasn’t going to crack that lineup and he had to move to Dallas to really flourish.
One thing that never gets mentioned that I think kinda screwed Sergio was Blake coming and stating his desire to play in Portland. I really think that going into last offseason KP was willing to go into the season with Jack and Sergio at the point and maybe snag a PG in the draft like he did with Taurean, but then Blake goes into FA declaring how much he loves the city and that he really wanted to be here. He’s certainly a good PG, and probably took a slight discount to come here, so KP decided he had to sign him because he knew he would help the team short term and it’d be a big PR coup since Blake’s such a likable player. Having the extra PG of course left Sergio the odd man out given that Jack had started the year before. He obviously didn’t react super well to this, although I do think some of it gets a little overblown. He’s still a 20 year old frustrated kid in a foreign place after all.
I don’t mean to imply that I think we shouldn’t have signed Blake, just that I don’t think that’s a move KP makes without Blake stating his desire to be here.
by Royster on
Aug 4, 2008 7:16 PM PDT
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I disagree
Blake had experience starting for the Blazers and the Nuggets, and experience was something we needed desperately. His wanting to be here was a plus, but him being a solid citizen and player had a lot more to do with KP’s decision to bring him back.
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by MiledAnimal on
Aug 4, 2008 8:04 PM PDT
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Of course he had proved he was a solid starter
but let’s be honest, if Blake had been solely about the money and hadn’t said anything about Portland, he was probably looking at a 4 year deal for about $18 mil based on how he held together us and that Denver team. The fact that it wasn’t about the money for him, and that he wanted to come here convinced us to make a run. Getting half of the money guaranteed is a huge money difference for a mid-level NBA guy like Blake, especially one on the wrong end of 25 when it only takes a couple bad years and you’re looking at the minimum for the rest of your career.
What I’m saying is, if instead of getting a Steve Blake who loved the city for only $9 million guaranteed over 2 years, it would have been an identical player who had no strong feelings about Portland for 18 over 4 years, I don’t see any way that KP makes that deal and instead he lets Sergio and Jack develop along with a guy like Taurean as a 12th man. That’s all.
by Royster on
Aug 4, 2008 8:34 PM PDT
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It seems to me
that Sergio is the high risk-high reward guy whereas Petteri is the kind of guy you foresee developing into a nice back-up point guard. The only big edge I’d give Petteri over Sergio right now is his dedication to working on his game. Sergio has a far better dribble and ball control at an NBA level. With the rest they haven’t been shaken around enough to tell. Basically they’re different players though. Sergio is more of the J-Will type with less spastic play and also less of a jump shot. The Blake-Koponen comparison is apt, though I think Petteri could develop into a little more of an offensive guy than Steve is.
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by Dave on
Aug 4, 2008 8:41 PM PDT
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do you mean...
“more of a scoring guy than Blake?” Passing and running the team is offense also, and the Blazers were a much better team offensively when Blake was in than Sergio or Jack, according to the 82games.com stats.
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by jksnake99 on
Aug 4, 2008 10:03 PM PDT
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its a little dated
third game of summer league for them, and before he started to fall off a little, but still a good read. seams at least a few fans are kinda high on our boys, kaponen, more then serge even. although they are talking about signing telfair. still, a few good quotes, mixed with a little awe and intrest can be entertaining.
would they have anyone that would interest us at all?
sorry if this has allready been discussed.
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by ptwnblzr on
Aug 4, 2008 9:14 PM PDT
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I stopped reading that post as soon as he compared Kevin Love to KG....
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on
Aug 4, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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lol
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by ptwnblzr on
Aug 4, 2008 9:49 PM PDT
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I voted for Sergio.
Of course. Glad to see some Sergio love in this thread, accompanied by what seem to be pretty objective evaluations of both players. It’s make or break this year for Sergio and the Blazers. I hope he comes in ready to show Nate he is prepared to earn his minutes.
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by sergioFTW on
Aug 4, 2008 9:53 PM PDT
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I hope to see some more El Mago
Always tries to pick up the pace.
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on
Aug 4, 2008 10:12 PM PDT
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That's an important facet of his game.
He can energize the team.
I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I
by TwoDeep on
Aug 6, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
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If Sergio explodes as a solid PG this year the Blazers might easily have the most beatifull play to watch in the NBA.
Hope he´s ready and lucky.
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by amlmart1 on
Aug 5, 2008 4:44 AM PDT
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He will win us at least 12 games on his own.
- Tom
by tominhawaii on
Aug 5, 2008 8:09 AM PDT
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Argh, it's the Kiss of Death!
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on
Aug 5, 2008 9:45 AM PDT
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Who are they?
Who are the 46 people and counting who actually took the time to open this article up with a very clear title to tell them what it’s about, read the entire thing, and then vote for the ‘who cares about the third pg spot’ option? If you don’t care about that, why are you reading this blog in the middle of summer when absolutely nothing is going on?
By the way, great job on the post. I too am glad to see the Sergio love. I’m pulling for him, but my hopes have waned recently. It’s nice to see that someone has taken the time to objectively nullify the ‘Sergio is toast’ comments that I see all too often.
by einman77 on
Aug 4, 2008 11:44 PM PDT
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Spanish Toast, mhm I have a recipe for that
Prepare grill (an oven might work as well)
Place bread slices on grill rack; grill 2 minutes on each side or until lightly browned. Rub 1 side of each bread slice with 1 garlic clove half and 1 tomato half (tomato pulp will rub off onto bread). Discard tomato peels. Drizzle 1/2 teaspoon olive oil over each bread slice; sprinkle evenly with salt and pepper.
The crisp toast almost melts the garlic and the tomatoes, which complement the crunchy salt. Very ripe tomatoes and a hearty, dense bread work best.
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by Norsktroll on
Aug 4, 2008 11:48 PM PDT
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Thanks Julia ---
I’ll try that. The garlic will actually transfer to the toast, huh?
Spanish Toast. I kind of like that nickname, especially if Sergio comes on strong.
I can hear Wheeler now, “Toast for Two!”
I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I
by TwoDeep on
Aug 6, 2008 8:29 AM PDT
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I don't think it has to be one or the other
I prefer PK as the 15th spot and let them battle it out in practice all year. At the end of the year (or maybe trade deadline one of them might be included or Blake might be traded and we need both of them.
However I think Petteri is more suited to this team’s needs. His quickness and his head for the game impressed me. I just am not ready to give up on either.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on
Aug 5, 2008 12:58 AM PDT
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Sergio speaks Spanish, Rudy speak Spanish
This is not a contest of who can play ball. This is a contest of who can show Rudy around the town and be a buddy on the road. Sorry Petteri, but the job is already locked up.
by ralphzillo on
Aug 5, 2008 11:55 AM PDT
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