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Roy and Blake

How good would the Blazers be if they were without Roy and Blake? With the depth the Blazers have, and the salaries that are going to be negotiated in the next three years. How good potentially would the Blazers be without these two guards? Surely they could put a very strong team on the floor with Oden and LMA. What if the Blazers only had Outlaw, Webster, Rudy and or Bayless to fill out their starting five, and then the extra player as the sixth player off the bench? Could they be as competitive as a 50 win team? My immediate reaction would be that they would have the potential to be a 50 win team. But would struggle without a true facilitator. They would miss having player’s whose play can make players around them better. This is one reason I don’t like both Roy and Blake as starters. I feel by Christmas that Bayless will be at the point position, not Blake. With the depth this team has they are easily the deepest talent in the league. It would be very easy to argue this point against any team. But, if they were gone, injuries, salaries, you would have to believe that the Blazers would need a different PG. One who could do all three areas of Shooting, passing and penetration? Now looking around the league the player that comes to mind would be a player like Conley. They would still have Webster and Rudy to play the two and the three. Outlaw would fall to the starting fulltime SF. If Webster’s progress is anything like Outlaws jump was last year, he maybe the strongest player for that position if Roy were injured or traded. The way he is developing his body, ball handling and attacking the basket. He could very well be the off guard of the future, but not with a player like Bayless running the point. The problem would be assists. I think that the one thing that would be missing would be that player that makes players better. That is what Roy does and Blake to an extent. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe Bayless will be that. Rudy would be the 6th man. He is probably the closest to a facilitator like Roy and Blake. But his physical makeup and game seems to be more of a "Ginobli" to me. The Blazers would surely have a solid 8 deep team. It makes you wonder how the lineups will work out. I know it has been stated and written that the starting lineup will be Roy, Blake, Oden, LMA and either Outlaw or Webster. If we had a true second unit with a full second five playing, Rudy, Joel, Outlaw or Webster, Bayless and Frye. I would have to think that the second unit would be one that will lack that player that makes players better. I obviously see Roy here for awhile. I’m not so sure about Blake. I’m not sure he will ultimately be our guy. I’m sure we will see Roy playing with all these players effectively. I’m just concerned when Blake and Roy go to the bench. I don’t know, maybe Sergio will surprise us all. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. I’ll just hope that Roy stays healthy and is here for a long time.

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you underestimate Rudy........

He too is a facilitator..he can look to pass, or look to shoot. He’s smart about it, and he’s always moving off the ball….

If our second unit includes Rudy and Travis, we have a scorer and a playmaker.

My hope is that our default lineup becomes
Roy
Rudy
Travis
Lamarcus
Oden

I believe those are our most talented players, and I believe they have the potential to crush teams.

by BroyTheTruth on Aug 31, 2008 7:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we traded Blake for Jamal Magloire

do we really want him to be our starting championship point guard?

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Aug 31, 2008 7:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Blake is smart, steady and reliable

He can knock down the outside jumper when needed, he can bring up the ball, he can (sorta) guard opposing PGs and he knows when to get the hell out of the way and let Roy cook up something wicked. He’s a keeper.

by DonkeyShins on Aug 31, 2008 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

evidence of how smart he is

he’s been working with Oden for weeks now. Blake knows that if he and the big fella click right away, he’s got a contract for life on a championship quality team. if Bayless doesnt click with Oden he wont be around. This maybe Roys team, but it’s going to be held together by who plays well with Greg.

The pictures kinda small, but Im giving the C's a big thumbs down

by Blazermaniac77 on Aug 31, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent point

and a very keen insight. A lot will be riding on which guards will work well together with the big cheese Mr. Oden.

Fun speculating: Rudy + Oden? Bayless + Oden? Blake + Oden? Sergio + Oden?

Roy + Oden seems a no brainer. Going to be really good just because it involves Roy. Roy + Oden is going to be the fearsome duo that carries us through the playoffs.

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

by vavoom on Aug 31, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and we got him back

The pictures kinda small, but Im giving the C's a big thumbs down

by Blazermaniac77 on Aug 31, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a word...

… yes!

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Sep 2, 2008 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Competition is Heating Up

If you read Quck’s interviews with Blake on the OregonLive “Rip City” blog, you’ll see that Blake isn’t giving an inch to Fernandez or Bayless. He’s a firey competitor, and is determined to be the starting point, and improve on those 5.1 apg and 8.5 ppg in 29 minutes stats from last year. His constant work with Oden will pay – as Oden will up those assist stats – count on it. After all, he didn’t have a scorer in the center with Pryz last year, and now he does. And that in turn frees up the PF as well for assists.

There’s going to be some fierce competition this year in training camp and after. The weak of heart need not apply. Blake is determined to keep Fernandez and Bayless on the second team, but anyone watching those two know that they’re determined to take him off. Trout told Quick yesterday that he is determined to put up 16 ppg and 8 rpg numbers this year, and eventually to start, and you got to know that Webster is equally determined to not let him do that. Frye has worked all summer on his own and with Oden, primarily to improve his shot and scoring, and strengthen his body. And he’s determined to take minutes away from Pryz behind Oden, as well as get some from Aldridge.

These guys all smell the roses. And they all want to be a part of it, and they all believe that they can be as good or better than the other guy.

So, hold on. Game days may have nothing on practices.

by Eben Calder on Sep 1, 2008 8:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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