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Lakers' players vs Lakers' fans

It seems that the "Hate the Lakers" thread has revealed two camps: those of us who really hate the players/team and those who hate the "fans," if you can call B-list celebrities gabbin' away on their cell phones as Kobe hassles another teammate for dunking the ball instead of passing into the double team fans.

Maybe it's too tough to separate out the "fans" from the team, but try to choose one or the other.

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Which do you hate/dislike the most?
The Lakers' players
39 votes
The Lakers' "fans"
65 votes

104 votes | Poll has closed

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I would say both...

but probably the players. I absolutely can’t stand Kbe and Vujabtch

by inroywetrust on Aug 3, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree.

I think it’s the entire organization that I can’t stand, but the fans are pretty bad. No matter which dudes are on the team, they instantly become HoFers and part of a “great” L*ker tradition.

by torsoheap on Aug 3, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hint

Jus call him FlowBee

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Aug 3, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like to call him Grope, pronounced Grow-pee.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 3, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

dont forget

the people who always wear their sunglasses inside watching the game. They’re sooooooooooo cool.

by postup on Aug 3, 2008 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

You don't find

these guys stylish?

Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!

by prezofdeath on Aug 3, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nicholson

gets props for being a real fan. He’s about the only one that I respect.

by torsoheap on Aug 3, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very good.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 3, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny! Good one.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 3, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lakers' fans are the worst

I don’t care how bad the traffic is. You can’t respect a fan base that shows up halfway through the second quarter and leaves halfway through the fourth. It’s a see and be seen type of social gathering, not a basketball game.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Aug 3, 2008 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel the same way

about Dodgers’ fans. It’s like the first inning doesn’t even exist.

by torsoheap on Aug 3, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey wait, you're both right!!!

They don’t have to have a bunch of tools throughout their team, and in a few years, maybe they wont. I don’t consider the 80’s Lickers to be a bunch of jerks.

The fans, I imagine, will long endure in their obnoxiousness. I can’t imagine the fanbase changing as quickly as personnel.

For the time being, though, I have to say both.

And you don't eat crackers in the bed of your future, otherwise you might get....all scratchy.

by shenanigans on Aug 3, 2008 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

There are people here who seem to revel in hypocrisy, stupidity, and bigotry

in the same way a hog luxuriates in filth.

These posts are a celebration of biased, uncritical thinking. It’s sickening and inexcusable.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Aug 3, 2008 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

This is Hate Week, man.

Hate Week.

You can and should hate whatever until today 24:00. Tomorrow we will love everybody and the whole world again. Both are the therapist“s prescriptions.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 3, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

like my avatar?

yah me neither, but for different reasons.

"If I was in anyway unclear, I am implying that Dave is a serial murderer."
---jonestr on Aug 3, 2008 12:25 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on Aug 3, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can tell by your other posts,

that you are not just some troll rolling in looking for trouble, but I feel the need to explain a few things.

We are Blazer fans and that means (almost by default) that we hate the Lakers. We hate that Kobe is an arrogant jerk (it wouldn’t matter if he wasn’t good). We hate that Phil is an arrogant jerk (it wouldn’t matter if he wasn’t good). We hate that the Lakers have stood in the way to almost every Blazer moment of glory since 1977. To some extent, our loathing should be taken as a (swallows pride) compliment to your team.

There is one loathing that you should not be proud of, and that is the loathing of many of your fans. Last season I went to a Blazers/ Lakers game and there was a large contingent of Laker fans there. A great majority of them were very eager to make a point of chanting MVP every time Kobe touched the ball, doing a little golf clap every time he made a free throw, and pointing and laughing (for the benefit of the Blazer fans around them) every time the Blazers did something poorly. This lasted until the end of the first quarter, because after that the Lakers got their hides tanned in this game. When the Lakers were down 10 with 5 minutes left in the game, guess who was filing out of the arena?? The same Laker fans that were going out of their way to rub it into Blazer fans how much our team sucks. That is what we hate.

Are all Laker fans like this? No. In fact there was a guy one row ahead of us that just rooted for his team like a normal fan would. Stood up and cheered when the Lakers made a good play, sat down and looked dejected when they didn’t. Good for him. But this guy is not who we are talking about.

Are we going a little far? Maybe, but I don’t think anyone actually believes that ALL Laker fans are a bunch of tools, but the front running fans that don’t stick around unless they can rub it into other peoples faces are.

I hope you understand that unless your team hadn’t acquired more rings in the last couple of decades than a pawn shop during a crime wave, this loathing wouldn’t make any blog, let alone a usually balanced and reasonable blog like this’un.

And you don't eat crackers in the bed of your future, otherwise you might get....all scratchy.

by shenanigans on Aug 4, 2008 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Que bueno

Agree nearly 100%

Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!

by prezofdeath on Aug 4, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I hate about the fans

is that most of them follow basketball about as much as I follow male gymnastics. Which is not at all. They think everyone who doesn’t play on the flakers are a bunch of scrubs and anyone who is on the flakers is the next K*be. No not the next Jordan, because they seem to think a certain some one is better. This includes their players that either recently joined or left the team. As soon as they are a flaker or not completely changes their skill level.

Anywhere you see something about Blazers with comments enabled it doesn’t take long for a flaker fan to show up to talk about how much the Blazers suck, how Odens going to be a bust and how Roy at the all-star game was a fluke. Blazers suck, Lakers will win championships for the next 10 years. Ask any professional sports analyst and they will tell you differently. That never seems to matter though. Its funny how they still bring up 2000 when they just got more humiliated than that this year.

by Bskey on Aug 3, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

That said there ARE real basketball fans who root for lakers.

They just pretty much cant afford the tickets and aren’t usually the outspoken ones.

by Bskey on Aug 3, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, just like they occasionally have likable players

I have no real problems with Mihm or Mbenga, and Fish has kind of grown on me, but their worst fans are just so much worse than fans of any other team. I mean, Bill Simmons has to be in the top 5% of irritating celtic fans out there, but I can still stand reading his stuff about the celtics. Reading anything by an obnoxious laker fan is just excruciating. Like that MJ was a better player, but Kobe is somehow a better “scorer” because he has “unlimited range” while he shoots 35% from downtown and MJ was shooting 55% from the field. And anyone who disagrees with them is automatically a “Kobe hater”. There really just isn’t a set of more delusional fans in the league, other than maybe OKC fans who think they’ll ever be able to sign a decent FA.

by Royster on Aug 3, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a serious post?

Laker fans are not all the same. Just like we’re not all the same. Case in point.

by begottenson on Aug 3, 2008 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

There are plenty of

reasonable Lakers fans, but they tend to be pretty quiet and certainly aren’t the ones you see on TV yawning.

by torsoheap on Aug 3, 2008 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hate rankings:

1) K*be
2) The worst of their fans
3) Odumb
4) Most of their fans

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Aug 3, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

5) The rest of the players
6) The good fans

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Aug 3, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I liked number 3 as well

Somewhere I wouldn’t mind putting Phil in there. Man I never thought i could dislike a coach so much.

Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!

by prezofdeath on Aug 4, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, I just don't care about Phil.

Maybe it’s leftover respect from the 90s Bulls, or the fact that he seems to hate K*be as much as anyone else does. But Phil doesn’t really bother me that much. I wouldn’t want him to become the Blazers’ coach, but I’m just kind of ambivalent toward him.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Aug 4, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

whatever you think

About faker fans you can wear visiting team colors to a game and not worry about geting punched out.Not the same deal in Boston,Philly or PHO where out of control punks are looking to make a name for themselves with the boyzs in the hood[see punks]

by southern oregon on Aug 3, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

All I know is

I was at a blazers-lkers game last season at Staples (I think it was the third time we played them) and my girlfriend and I were sitting in the second level, at about half court. The game was really competitive through the first 3.5 quarters, so I was happily cheering for the blazers when we made good plays and watching silently when Kbe did something amazing.

Partway through the third, Kbe was called for a foul which he didn’t like and complained to the ref, resulting in a technical. In response, about 10 Lker fans sitting all around us began screaming boos at us, and the guy sitting next to my girlfriend used his rolled-up program to scream boos right into my girlfriend’s ear (and she really wasn’t even cheering at all). Anyway, it was one of the most classless moves I’ve ever witnessed by fans of any kind, and it reaffirmed by deep hatred for the L*kers organization, but most of all, it made me HATE the fans.

by joelor on Aug 4, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

That’s when you tell your girlfriend to run then punch that dude in the nose as hard as you can. You know you’re going to get jumped by everyone else, so you’ll want her to get to safety and get security before they stab you.

- Tom

by tominhawaii on Aug 5, 2008 4:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh

I have to admit that I am getting very sick of all this silly ‘Laker hate,’ especially when it’s aimed at Laker fans. I’m an Oregon transplant living in Los Angeles, and Laker fans are no worse than fans anywhere else. In fact, most conversations I’ve had with Laker fans have revealed them to be at least moderately informed about their team and, usually, perfectly nice. (In fact, the worst behavior I have ever seen by fans, without a doubt, was perpetrated by UofO basketball fans in the student section, who were screaming frankly stunning homophobic remarks.)

Yeah, the Lakers have a higher percentage of fans who dress in the Hollywood style (shocking, I know, since many of them live in Hollywood!), some people arrive half-way through the 2rd quarter (not a huge percentage, though), and celebrities get put up on the Jumbotron (this happens in all arenas – there are just more celebrities to show in LA). All these testimonials about the evils of Laker fans are fine, but completely at odds with my personal experience in Staples, which has always been just fine.

Sorry for the rant. I just think the whole thing is homer-tastic and stupid. Hate the uniform, hate the logo, hate Lamar Odom, but all the simplistic trashing of other fans makes us seem like ingrates.

by samuelleejackson on Aug 4, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Disagree

sounds like personal experience differences, but the only game I’ve been to at Staples the fans were JERKS.

by joelor on Aug 4, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

My kids

are built like Kevin Love but a little shorter so maybe thats why I dont have a problem at Staples but if you want to see jerk go to a Wiz or BOS or PHO game,you aint seen nothing yet

by southern oregon on Aug 4, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every fanbase has it's jerks

Even when I was at a portland game back in like 2001 when we were playing the timberwolves, there was a KG fan who was getting booed and heckled and everything. But for the MOST part, blazer fans are under control and respectful.

Similarly, laker fans have nutjobs who are unruly—but it seems they have more nutjobs than most fanbases, and half of the rest of the fans are bandwagoners. They go because they’ve got money and just are bored, not because they love the team.

Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!

by prezofdeath on Aug 4, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously,

I’m a huge Duck fan, but I can’t decide whether or not the pit crew torments are funny or cruel. I think it depends on the team.

And you don't eat crackers in the bed of your future, otherwise you might get....all scratchy.

by shenanigans on Aug 4, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

They’re only good about 55.74% of the time. When they’re funny, they’re really funny.

- Tom

by tominhawaii on Aug 5, 2008 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate Therapist

But I also hate the fans, because they are delusional, know very little about basketball and expect that everything should be given to them. I live in LA.. trust me.. its PAINFUL

Shaniqua don't live here no more... Is Shaniqua there, HELL NO!

by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 5, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

On a side note

I hate to say this: Blazers fans are becoming obnoxious.. you know how people feel about Oregon Ducks fans outside of Eugene? Well thats the same way people are looking at the Blazer fans that have suddenly popped up everywhere, commenting everywhere, making ABSURD comments about how we guarantee a title in the next 2 seasons, we are the new dynasty, etc..
sigh.. i will never be ashamed to be a Blazer fan, but there are moments…

Shaniqua don't live here no more... Is Shaniqua there, HELL NO!

by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 5, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

thats why i think mortimer should be, in official capasity, made the BEdge ambasador for sb nation. his job description would be much like it is now, ‘cept to hold the “official” responsibility to follow all the stray sheep and offer legitamate commentary on behaf of our great community. FACT, he is allready welcomed and even asked for by other sites when our guys get a little excited to far from home. he is obviously a fan but is able to translate what he sees with seamilngly unbiased clarity. Email Dave. it should be Dave and Ben at home, and Mortimer coaching the away games.

"If I was in anyway unclear, I am implying that Dave is a serial murderer."
---jonestr on Aug 3, 2008 12:25 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on Aug 5, 2008 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

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