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Junk Drawer 08/28/08

This comic strip was too apprapo not to post.  My sister in law and her fiance are staying with us and I do not think I like him.  They get married in time for me to go to a Blazers game so I am excited that they are getting hitched.  How long before it is acceptable for me to openly look forward and root for them to get divorced?

Shoots, I can't get the comic strip to be in the fanpost because something is blocking me.

I don't think this will work.

It is the Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller from August 28, 2008.

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I root for

Half of my friends to get divorced.

Everyone was stupid and got married too young, too soon, to too stupid of people. It’s lame.

Out of my close friends, I’m getting married last, and I’m the ripe old age of 28. That’s so stupid, I should be considered as getting married too young but with my friends I’m the sensible one who waited to find someone cool and not just the first person you run into with your pants around your ankles.

Sheesh, my friends.

If the relationship is bad, divorce can’t come quick enough. Just sticking around because they think marriages are SUPPOSED to suck or don’t want to be proven wrong is where some of my friend’s marriages are already at.

So root! Root for success, which is divorce. Some people shouldn’t be together.

Here’s a tip: if you hate the person you’re with more than 54% of the time and they constantly limit your dreams and happiness, you should maybe not be with the person. It sounds crazy but that’s how I roll.

I’m sure some people here got married quickly, and it can work out just fine. I just don’t understand it. If you’re gonna get married, why not wait a bit just to be safe? Why rush into it? If you’re gonna be “together forever”, what’s the harm in just, you know, holding off a bit?

There’s no deadline on when someone has to get married, but try telling that to some of my friends! Boy howdy.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 28, 2008 1:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I was with my boyfriend for 5 years

And we broke up not that long ago. Anything can happen. I am so glad we never got married because it makes it that much more difficult. People can change a lot over a five year period, so I am all about waiting too. That is unless Rudy proposes (see my post below). Then, all bets are out the window.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

do people really change in 5 years

or do we just figure each other out, and decide its not whats wanted?

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It can happen to the last one too

I was the last of my (high school) friends to get married. First to get divorced. Odd thing is that the 2nd to the last to get married was the 2nd to get divorced. Have lost touch with all of them, but last I knew the rest were all still married.

My advice : if you have ANY doubts, listen to them. Nothing is truer than “love is blind”.

by jorga on Aug 28, 2008 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Ugh, I have a friend that is totally blinded by love. Engaged to be married to a guy that is nice enough but is totally lazy and limits himself. She is the complete opposite of him. She is too good for him and I know it, and everyone else knows it, but she doesn’t know it. It sucks. But, I was kinda in the same type of relationship (he was slightly more motivated and less lazy) and it took me five years to realize that no matter how much love you have for someone, sometimes things aren’t meant to be. That, and my soulmate is Rudy Fernandez so things had to end before he came to the U.S. :)

I can’t root for the divorce (or break up at this point) though because even though I know she deseves better I don’t want to see her crushed at the same time. Its a bad situation either way.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

Two of my buddies found women who were in the “let’s rush to get married and have babies” mode. They are typically of a certain age, and feel their clocks ticking. There are guys who are like that too. Anyway, my buddies, bless their hearts, weren’t as savvy with the ladies as I had hoped, and they went along with the plans like little puppy dogs. One of these friends is now unhappy, and locked into it.
 
Marriage (at least to me), is too big a deal to rush into, no matter how you feel. I’ve dated enough crazies before meeting my well-adjusted wife to know that it can take a while to be sure that you’ve got someone you want to spend the rest of your life with. How someone can “know” within the span of 2 months I don’t understand, but I’m sure some people get lucky that way. I’m willing to bet they are the exception to the rule.

I had a gf during my college years, we were together for 5 years before breaking up..and I never could say for sure I wanted to marry her. By 5 years, if you aren’t sure you want to be committed forever..then, in my opinion, there are probably greener pastures.

You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

-- Unknown

by SloppyJoe on Aug 28, 2008 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

More and more

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 4:37 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

He is smooth

I love Rudy. LOVE him. I think I am going to have to marry him (here’s to sticking with the theme). You think we have a chance at love? I don’t think he speaks any English yet, so that can help eliminate the fighting… thoughts?

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Love is an international feeling.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, that's what I thought

I think we’ll be able to make it through ok.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amlmart Jr could be embarrassing for you and me, you know...

I´m sure that Rudy is a jealous man. I fear there are not many Amlmarts around the World and I don´t live in a deep cave in the mountains of Pakistan.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that could be awkward.

I’ll stick to Rudy Jr. and Twiggs Jr. if it’s a girl for the time being.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course you should first promise to all of us blazer fans that you will have a lot of little Rudys and Twiggs.

I don´t mind that you become one of those cows or sheeps (like Dolly), you know, but we want to be sure that the dinasty there will be not end. Then we´ll give you his hand and all the rest.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, it was "I don´t mean..." and not "I don´t mind..."

Wonder how that sounded… I´don´t know what I´m saying half of times.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm...a couple maybe, not lots and lots

But I will go until I have at least one boy so the dynasty will go on (this is assuming Rudy does not disappoint of course).

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, that should be enough.

Now I start worrying about the future fight for playing time and for blazeredegers´ love between Rudy Fernandez Jr. and Baby Point Guard.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if he takes after his dad

He will be between the 1 and 2 so they can run the back court together :)

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Preventively I´m preparing a "fire coach and fire Dave" post.

I think I´m gonna post it next week. I´ll also take out of context that Dave´s post about a nuclear weapon named Oden and I´ll send it to the Japanese embassy with a few changes. ;-)

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Aug 28, 2008 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta say it...

… with 10 seconds on the shot clock, this is pretty awful shot selection.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Aug 28, 2008 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Always gotta bring up something (j/k)

I think he shoots like Travis a lot, and those are off balance, awkward shots. Hey, it was a good look and it went in. If he does that all the time and MISSES, then I will worry about it.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should say good look for "him"

Maybe not to us.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Travis has awful shot selection also.

He makes enough of the so we can live with it. Hopefully so will Rudy, but I still don’t like it.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Aug 28, 2008 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it just seems to be their style

All that more exciting when they go in!

Or, all that more annoying when there was an easier shot and they missed the hard one. I feel ya.

"I eat polar bears and babies"
~Sophia 08/25/08

by twiggs on Aug 28, 2008 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

AT least Rudy knows to shoot that deep bad shot BEHIND the 3 pt line..

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's pretty much the same position Travis is shooting from when you consider the league differences

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 28, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uhhh

clearly rudy is way behind NBA 3 pt line

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

The NBA 3 pt. line

is 3 feet 3 inches further, I don’t know if Rudy was that far from the FIBA line.

Salaam. Plátanos maduros.

by JamesOn on Aug 28, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

well none of can know b/c we aren't/weren't there to measure it w/ a ruler..

however I was just alluding to the irritating fact that Travis consistently drained deeeep 2’s that w/ a foot more at most could be a 3 ptr…

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

correction: "none of US'

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I give you that Rudy has a better arc on his shot so it should extend to the NBA 3p range

He also is clearly better on the catch and shoot (see the scene in the finals where he moves under the basket dishing the ball out and then getting it back on the left wing and taking two shots from there).
Whereas Travis was almost always not squaring up correctly last season. But he might be a more consistent shooter off the dribble, not sure how effective Rudy’s between the legs dribbles will be here.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 28, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would venture a guess

that they’ll be about as affective as they have been

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 28, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

See Jakey Pants, we agree again

If that shot misses, it’s an awful, worse-than-Kobe type shot.

Of course, it went in, and I love Rudy’s guts to shoot that, but it’s a bad shot.

And I love him for taking it. I can’t help but think we might be more critical if someone not named Rudy took that shot, but that’s just how it goes. We love Rudy.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 28, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

We?

For the record, I do not love Rudy.

Sincerely,
The guy that doesn’t love (or really even like for that matter) Rudy Fernandez

P.S. Rudy did NOT dunk on Dwight Howard. He was clearly in front of Howard the entire time and Howard tried to block the shot from behind. I’m just saying.

Salaam. Plátanos maduros.

by JamesOn on Aug 28, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

do you even know what you’re talkin about? He beat howard to rim

by BroyTheTruth on Aug 28, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's why I said Howard was behind him the whole time

and that he didn’t actually dunk “on” him. But no, I don’t know what I’m talking about generally.

Salaam. Plátanos maduros.

by JamesOn on Aug 28, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has been said in the "dunk heard around the world" post that it's not comparable to e.g. the Vince Carter Olympics dunk

But it’s not shabby either.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 28, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't saying it was shabby or comparing it to the Vince Carter dunk

I was just saying he didn’t dunk on him. I didn’t read the “dunk heard around the world” post, but I figured somebody had already pointed that out. I was just saying I don’t like Rudy. To be fair I don’t dislike him either, I’m just neutral as of right now. My point/humor didn’t come across very well. I think I’m just going to give it a rest with Blazer’s Edge until the season starts. I’ll be quiet until then.

Salaam. Plátanos maduros.

by JamesOn on Aug 28, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh huh suuurrreee

look what you have done, got all these poor fellows in their feelins’… :)

Sophia

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

What exactly is criteria for dunking on then????

Howard tries to block it, but can only foul. Howard gets posterized. Isn’t that enough???? I am sorry, but when it looks like this:

You been dunked on, plain and simple….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

RUDY > HOWARD

Little known fact: Rudy Fernandez once roundhouse kicked Chuck Norris in the face while simultaneously dunking on it.

by In Walks Rudy on Aug 28, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is

certainly not big enough of a deal to warrant questions topped off with four question marks. As far as I know, there is no universal “criteria for dunking on.” My own personal “criteria for dunking on” is that in order to dunk on somebody, you can’t have your back to them. I realize Rudy has many fanboys and fangirls around the world that will disagree with me, but that doesn’t change my opinion. I realize that your picture of Rudy appears to show Rudy dunking over Dwight Howard and thus would make a nice poster and thus in the literal sense Dwight Howard was “posterized”, but I am of the opinion that Rudy was ahead of Dwight Howard, didn’t dunk on him, and that the fact that Rudy rotated his body and swung into Howard from the rim makes the dunk look like more than it was. I realize I am being overly literal in my interpretations of getting “dunked on”, but that was my joking point from the onset. To me, to ME, Rudy didn’t dunk on Dwight Howard. For the record I smiled when the dunk occurred. I enjoy the dunk, as evidenced by me re-posting it in my comment. Also, I am not a Dwight Howard “fan” so I am approaching this situation unbiased. Rudy probably feels he dunked on Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard probably feels that he got dunked on by Rudy. I don’t care. I feel how I feel. I think I should probably mention that this comment is in no way meant to be rude, snide, or even argumentative, it is meant to be informative and lighthearted with hints of humor, just as the original comment was. If that would have been understood in the first place in my initial comment this entire debacle could have been easily avoided. I even added an “I’m just saying” to indicate my lightheartedness, but apparently I should have included a smiley face or something. I look forward to the day when I earn the coveted sarcasm font and I can cut down on the number of misunderstandings.

Like everybody else here, I love you like a person I’ve never met and know nothing about, myemic23, but let’s just agree that neither of us is going to change the other’s mind.

Salaam. Plátanos maduros.

by JamesOn on Aug 29, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

please feel free to post this video every day

until the season starts and we can replace it with another gem

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any made shot...

is a good shot in my book.

"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car"

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Aug 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's with..

you foreigners and your animated gifs?

Almost every Rudy highlight from this Olympiad is a grainy endless loop – are these very popular over in Europe?

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Aug 28, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops

I just re-read this and it sounds kinda rude – I meant it in a “what’s the deal” way, not a “what’s wrong with you people” way, so please no offense-fense.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Aug 28, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I much prefer those posts

with Divx video that requires me to download some player I don’t have yet then it take s25 minutes to download on cable internet and then still stalls when I play the video.

Actually i like the small gif videos much bettter than the youtube clips which have the same resolution but are then blown up to a large size to bmore clearly see the blockiness of the video

by NWfan on Aug 28, 2008 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gosh Darnit!

It’s now after 3pm and I’ve starred at this clip since 8am. My voice mail’s overflowing and I’ve got over twenty emails unanswered.

I keep thinking, “This time he’ll miss.”

D’oh he made it again.

Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)

by LaughingJon on Aug 28, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem are the 2000 misses Nate is playing right now

Our minds just remember the highlights better. The reason Janero Pargo now plays in Russia.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 29, 2008 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Travis

Blazers Edge may erupt into a civil war soon over the issue of Travis Outlaw trades.

They need to stop! Go look at my new fanshot for proof.

Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii

by Outlaw is Rejector on Aug 28, 2008 4:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Ohhh wow

Hooo that was nassssty

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Aug 28, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What we need is a continuous loop of trout's alley-oop jams from Sergio

late last season. Seeing both of those oops from Sergio to trout back to back felt really good…and it should stop the trade trout banter.

by NWfan on Aug 28, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

why would that stop the "trade trout" banter

nobody has forgotten that he can dunk.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Aug 28, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where ya been TiH???

Did you like Rudy against USA? USA! USA!

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Aug 28, 2008 4:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I loved it

Sister in law is in town and I took a break for Blazer’s Edge for a few days. Everyone and everything was making me mad but I knew it was just me and the off season so I didn’t read comments for a little while. I started a fanpost about it but didn’t think I really need to to tell everyone why I was butthurt.

The thing that impressed me most about Rudy was his tenacity and he did not seem intimidated at all. That shot up above made me say “what the hell” then it went in and I said, “Oh, he’s just feeling it.” I also liked how he seemed to be in all the team Spain highlights.

by tominhawaii on Aug 28, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to admit it

but the Bedge aint the same without ya.

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great cartoon.

RE: brother in law. Throw him a batchelor party, take pictures, save said pictures until the right time, mail to sister.

"If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

by timg56 on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 AM PDT reply actions  

+1

But timg56, same goes for TiH, if TiH is in a batchelor party, TiH is guilty for doing the party…he has a wife you know…i got the idea from your sig…i like it.

"Besides, I met a girl who loves basketball, blazers, and spurs. I'm sorry, you really can't dampen my mood right now :)" -ratbastird(after oden's surgery)

by nateinaloha on Aug 28, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has the excuse of looking out for his sister.

Besides, his wife loves him. How do I know? She’s Korean, which means Tom would be dead by now if his wife didn’t love him.

"If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

by timg56 on Aug 28, 2008 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I won't be in town for the party

He’s a nice enough guy. It is just that he’s in the Army band so he has this weird stuck up thing about “being a professional musician” and he’s rude to waitstaff. I never like people who are rude to waitstaff.

by tominhawaii on Aug 28, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dumb question of the day...

What do we know, if anything, about employment benefits in the NBA? Does the league offer medical insurance? The team? Do they have a retirement plan? 401k?

At first blush one may think….awww, they’re millionaires…who needs a retirement plan? But not everybody gets a max contract or stays in the league very long (and not every millionaire remains in good financial stead either).

Just curious if these things were administered by the league or by teams or governed by the CBA? I suppose they are rightfully part of compensation, so they are probably the same throughout? I dunno.

Would LeBron pick Miami over New Jersey because they offered AFLAC?

by lukeyhere on Aug 28, 2008 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

They got some sort of 401K

Matching whatever you put in, dollar for dollar. At least.

I remember Joel Przybilla trying to explain this concept to someone dumb like Qyntel Woods, how it’s “free money” and all you gotta do is put it in the 401K and the NBA matches everything you put in. The player he was explaining this to (I’m pretty sure it was Woods) didn’t seem to understand it.

So, there’s at least that, and I bet there is more retirement planning stuff available for players. Whoever was Wood’s agent shoulda been coaching him on that stuff, but perhaps he had but Woods was, you know… incredibly stupid and a bad person.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 28, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Player Benefits are defined in the Collective Bargaining Agreement

Here is a link to the section of the CBA that governs the employment benefits:
http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-IV.php

Based on the CBA the answer to your questions are:
- yes the league offers medical insurance (including dental and vision) and life insurance/disability insurance/workers comp as well
- there is a pension plan that gives $200/month for each year of service in the league. Thus a 14yr vet would get ~$50,000 per year. The pension kicks in at 50, so there is quite some time between retirment from the league and beginning to draw from the pension plan.
- yes there is a 401(k) plan as well subject to all of the same rules the average person’s 401(k) plan it (i.e. yearly maximums, early withdrawl penalties, etc.)

by tingeyga on Aug 28, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its a $10 co-pay on all microfracture surgeries

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you already excited that finally on September 3 we will learn that OKC's nickname is the Thunder?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3556706

Or will it be something more asinine? With these marketing guys the NBA employs, you can never be sure.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 28, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope they pick the barons

but we already know it is the thunder… moronic if you ask me. well i know, you didnt ask me anything but i’ll submit that opinion regardles.

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interestingly enough, it may NOT be the thunder

Oklahoma already has a football team called the Thunder. Might be a conflict of interest.
I really wish it was Barons.. or something else

"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."

The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan

by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 28, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It won't be. Thunder is it

http://www.ticketcity.com/Oklahoma-City-Thunder-Tickets.html

http://www.nba.com/schedules/national_tv_schedule/index.html
Move the mouse over to Oklahoma’s lone national game on Nov. 21, and see where the for Oklahoma City link points: NBA.com/thunder

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 29, 2008 3:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

why is the Thunder moronic to you?

couldnt a Super-Sonic boom be confused with thunder?

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with "Thunder"?

They can play that clip of Kurt Russell in Tombstone saying: "you called down the thunder, well now you’ve got it!

Instant motivation!

Little known fact: Rudy Fernandez once roundhouse kicked Chuck Norris in the face while simultaneously dunking on it.

by In Walks Rudy on Aug 28, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the fans soon won't be able to stand AC/DC anymore

Or Garth Brooks.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 29, 2008 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the should go out on a limb and become the "Tinkerbells"

That will strike fear into the hearts of all opposing teams.

by NWfan on Aug 28, 2008 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

My friend's Xbox name is "Tinkerbell"

And quite frankly, he sucks. And quite frankly, OKC/X-SEA/THNDR/CHTRS/LIARS will suck too.

Coincidence? I think not.

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Aug 28, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their Dance Team

They should name their dance team “The Thunder Thighs” … .. that would be hilarious.

You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

-- Unknown

by SloppyJoe on Aug 28, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lolllllllllllllll

top 10 nominee

"I think that the team that wins game five will win the series. Unless we lose game five."
Who else? Charles Barkley

by prezofdeath on Aug 28, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thunder Thighs

we called our High School’s first dance team that name…. yea know, all the fatties who wanted to dance but werent hot enough to make the cheerleading squad…

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was the same way at my school

Except some of the “bigger bone” girls got on the back up cheerleading squad too, which didn’t do anything.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Aug 28, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

DraftExpress is updating it's scouting reports on pretty much all players in the league. Next up: The NW division

First part: Denver. Interesting read on the perceived skills of all the guys on the roster.
Portland shouldn’t be too far behind.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Scouting-Reports,-Northwest-Division—Part-One—2993/

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 28, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

ill start checking that every day or so

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 28, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

More D. Miles.

Nothing new. Just more national publicity of how this could hamper the Blazers.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/08/27/mailbag.offseason.olympics/

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Linkage re ZBO

ZBO’s stock is rising…

NOT!

Sophia

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 2:58 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow...poor Zach.

How quickly he has gone from toast of the town to so much baggage. It’s interesting to see how “character” is bandied about more frequently when discussing pros and cons of players and seemingly given increasing weight in their comparisons. I remember Bird’s blurb about the Pacers during the draft sounding like he was reading a transcription of an old Pritchard speech. If…no, I mean WHEN the Blazers are the team to reckon with, will their formula for rebuilding and suceeding be the new model? Or is it already?

by lukeyhere on Aug 28, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who DOESN'T want one of these?

I mean, really…….

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Aug 28, 2008 4:03 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

why would they be holding

Shawn Kemp’s jock strap?

*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'

I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.

by bow4meow on Aug 28, 2008 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.....

I thought it was his reusable condom.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Aug 28, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ricky's Eyebrows are HUGE!

almost as big as mine

"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
I detest that man who hides one thing in the depths of his heart, and speaks for another. - Homer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The wild hawk stood with the down on his beak And stared with his foot on the prey. - Lord Alfred Tennyson

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 28, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

HUZZAH-- Nate loves Rudy

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2008/08/rudy_fernandez_leaves_olympic.html

FRESH OFF THE PRESSES.

Looks like Nate loves Rudy and says “Jack who?”. Maybe the worriers don’t got no more reason to worry, and Nate will play Rudy.

You can go back to hating Bayless now, like previously scheduled.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 28, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

your the man mortie

someone stole your idea and posted it as a fanpost. ill go over there and post a link to your comment, saying that this is whear the real conversation is.

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 28, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

HUZZAH indeed

Coach does luvs some Rudy.

Coach says

" he will “definitely” play, and play a lot, for the Blazers. "

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beavs Opening Game Football

On the ESPN2 TV Channel. You can dig it, as they goes into the lead.

Do It! Do it now!

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Boooooooo!!!!

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew you were a Stanford guy...

On this night we are enemies, court rivals or not, I hate you until about 9:00 pacific

gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Aug 28, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

#44 on your squad is a piece of poo....

He needs to learn how to not play like a schmuck and hit our QB when the play is 15 yards in the other direction. Your team is dirty snake, straight filthy. That guy should have been ejected for that cheap shot(for lack of a better word). At 9:00, all is forgotten, but for now…..

ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Aug 28, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that suxorz

Might as well let em catch the TD pass, if ya can’t deny it.

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denied

hehe

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

We gots shade, dude

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Yah, Oh Ya

Caughts it this time.

Shade Rules!

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Weird Review

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice drive Beavs

Tied Game. End of the first half.

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nooooooooo

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beavs gnaw trees until they fall

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noooooo!!!

We had it, wit a two pt. conversion.

Noooooooo!

I must go cry now

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So lame

Beavers lost this game with stupid plays. The safety, the touchback. Stanford played well, but OSU made enough mistakes to give them the game. Good job Stanford….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Aug 28, 2008 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Props to Toby Gerhart

#44, meh

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 28, 2008 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It hurts me deeply...

But jksnake called it, Gerhart was the difference in this game. GerhartFTW indeed….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Aug 28, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's OK

Now that your season is already over, you can look past every game and just wait for the Civil War. It is the only game that matters to most of the Beaver fans I know.

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

Beaver fans don’t know if they’ve ever won a bowl game but they know every Civil War they won.

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel for you guys

I’m a Stanford grad student, so I never became a huge fan like undergrads do. I’m always conflicted when Stanford plays one of the Oregon teams.

I know how much it stinks to dominate a game yardage wise and lose, so I feel for you.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Aug 29, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

help?

does anyone remember what that finnish word for guts is? ive serched the back catologe for over an hour now and still kant find it

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 28, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

yep, or so some random website would lead me to believe...

SISU is the Finnish word for guts or resolve, and sums up the Finnish attitude towards life, nature, sports, and enemies! A sure winner for Finns of every persuasion.

http://www.zazzle.com/sisu_finnish_pride_white_sweatshirt-235571183379009792

Little known fact: Rudy Fernandez once roundhouse kicked Chuck Norris in the face while simultaneously dunking on it.

by In Walks Rudy on Aug 28, 2008 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just quit my job. I feel I need all the SISU I can get at the moment. I've been there

half my life. Fork ’em.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

More Sisu to you

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 29, 2008 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

welcome to the fold

may your unemployment checks never bounce

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 29, 2008 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. Can you get unemployment checks if you quit?

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, maybe not

but i would still try

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 29, 2008 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can, if you have a good excuse

If you still on insurance, go to the doctor for stress.

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got unemployment

After we had to move because of my wife’s job.

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good for you!

Will you be moving to the Southwest before winter hits? I’ve enjoyed reading the tidbits about your plans — you sound so excited!

by Corvid on Aug 29, 2008 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm very excited and scared nearly witless. If I were younger I'd probably just be excited.

Hopefully we’ll get to the southwest before winter but we have to wait for the dust to settle here first. It’s tough sorting through 20+ years of accumulated treasures and realizing it’s just junk. Get rid of it! It’s actually quite liberating. Goodwill loves me.

I think I’ll check into unemployment.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck Ann

Our shared parents wish you luck as well in your pursuit of being a dancer.

We got so much crap; both me and The Fiancee accumulate crap. I like garage sales and Goodwill and whatnots. I find treasures everywhere. I’ve put an embargo on accumulating crap, but I still got the previous crap that is crappin’ up my crappy apartment.

I picture Ann being a reporter going after the big story with moxie and spunk. “C’mon chief, ya gotta give me the story! I’ve been following Mendoza since day one, I’m about to crack it wide open!”

Goodwill is a tax write off as well, if that is applicable! Keep track of how many clothes, trinkets, exactly what they are, and it’s all write-off-able (if that isn’t common knowledge already). Ask Goodwill for a reciept chronicling your donation adventures.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 29, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck amiga!

It’s been fifteen years since my last cross-country move, but I remember the feeling. I had to keep reminding myself that the best things in life (marriage, kids, etc.) are a combo of scary-exciting.

Everyone I know who’s gone through a Big Purge has found it liberating, but hoo-boy, it’s a lot of work (physically and mentally). It’s definitely worth it though, especially if you land in a place that speaks to your soul.

Mort’s got a good point about donations and tax write-offs. I’ve used a cheapie software program to keep track of donations. It’s amazing how fast it adds up.

by Corvid on Aug 29, 2008 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forget what the one I used is called

But I used TurboTax for me and the Fiancee’s taxes this year, and we had given a lot of her clothes to Goodwill and I wanted to get them deducted. It sent us to a nice website/program that had a fair price for each garment (every type of garment) and added it all up and stuff.

Is that similar to what ya got, Corvid?

I can crack open TurboTax and take a looksee what the program/website is if ya want me to, Ann The Fan. I can’t remember right now but something like that is available and makes it easy to keep track of your donations…

It really does add up, and is a totally fair and legal write off. If you’re purging a great amount, ya should keep track of it because I bet it gets into the thousands of dollars.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 29, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is part of the dust that needs to settle. It takes a long time to itemize

all the stuff but I’m getting there. Thanks Morty. I’ve got it covered.
Tell mom and dad I’m taking up competitive bungie jumping in the Grand Canyon. Dancing was just not exciting enough.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heart TurboTax

I actually think doing taxes is kind of fun. Flag me — i don’t care . . .

by Corvid on Aug 29, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly right Corvid, you nailed it. That area speaks to my soul.

I’m a pretty pragmatic person but there just seems to be such power there. There’s a presence about the place. I love Oregon too but I’ve decided I’d rather vacation here. My loyalties to the Trail Blazers will never change, no matter where I live. This big adventure is not well timed to be able to watch the boys take the NBA by storm. Dang it.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twinkie.

Photobucket

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad yous gots your bikes with ya

"He doesn't let grass grow under his feet when there are points to be had." - Dave

by BlueBooYay on Aug 29, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always because you never know.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We moved to Hawaii with only 12 boxes and 2 cars

After 3 years, we have so much crap that would never know we had a big purge just a few years ago. When I applied for Oregon Unemployment last, I went into the office to drop off the papers and they would not take them. They made me leave and mail them in. You get get all you need off their webpage.

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. That is traveling light. Did you drive all the way? :0

We’re lucky enough to have a little Airstream we call Twinkie so we can take a pretty comfy household with us wherever we go. We’ve pulled it over some pretty dicey terrain over the years with only a couple of minor disasters.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twinkie's a beauty

I have some serious Airstream fantasies myself.

by Corvid on Aug 29, 2008 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank u

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 29, 2008 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

thank u

(our) great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit, our system of of credit is privately concentrated, the growth of our nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world - no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

--- Woodrow Wilson

by ptwnblzr on Aug 29, 2008 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY CRAP

Mcain just announced 44 yr old AK gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.

by everett on Aug 29, 2008 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

While it is a surprising choice

some political blogs have been mentioning her as a VP candidate since at least May, I just didn’t think that McCain would actually do it.

by tingeyga on Aug 29, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The first question that came to my mind was, "Would I do her?"

Answer: Yeah, why not?

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also a way to decide who to vote for ;-)

Though that must be one of the best pictures of her. It went as expected: Obama chose a considerably older vice president, and McCain a considerably younger one.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 29, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped voting and try to discourage others from voting.

The first day I ever met him he said: "Hi, I'm Ritchie White. I'm on probation."

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with Tom

I too ……would do her

Styx -"I'm schizophrenic....and so am I"

by 92wastheyear on Aug 29, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, she also was a baller

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-33-247/Hoopers-in-the-House.html

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 29, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

John McMILF© 's running mate.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Aug 29, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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