Dang it! Darius signed!!!
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
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Here's the link again.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/54111/20080822/celtics_sign_darius_miles/
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
Here's the view from Bean Town
http://www.greenbandwagon.com/
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
there are a LOT of celtic sites
it seams that sbnation isnt all that popular for somereason. the nation doesnt even have all the nba teams being represented yet.
"Next up, an event we will be following this through Celtic training camp: the Trail Blazers’ fan base competes in sychronized sweating."
--- LaoTzu on Aug 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
I read this site again
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 23, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
"When logic is used to analyze the problem."
That sir, is not a sentence and, to be honest, I didn’t have any desire to read further after reading that. Kudos for building a website and getting me to look at it for 5 seconds though. That’s more than I’ve done today.
he he he
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
hey man i'm not even done writing it
and certainly haven’t gotten around to editing and yes i realize that is not a sentence.
Hey Zaron
Keep working on the webpage, don’t worry about people catching onto little textual errors.
The problem of evil is interesting to me, though I am a theist, so I may disagree with you rargument… but don’t get discouraged by something small like that.
And, she's the one always getting on people for being condescending.
Don’t sweat it.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
The last comment was a little harsh
But—and I’m trying not to be a jerk—you should really invest in some major editing on that webpage if you want people to take your argument seriously.
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
lol i know it's not done
i didn’t necessarily expect people to read it yet. I have a lot of the text edited, but i haven’t updated it yet.
Sorry to criticize
Let us know when it’s done—I’ll want to take another look.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
dont forget to plug your blog
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
My blog is hot.
And meticulously well edited
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Why thank you
I’m not sure how ubiquitous a psychoanalytical approach to sleep-eating is, but I think it’s funny.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
by the way, thank you for finally updating that
Formerly known as 'Junior Del Norte' until I deleted my openID. It wasn't really an accident, but it wasn't really on purpose. Salaam
My partner made me promise not to until she could make her "Speaking of Asian People" joke
I have four more posts ready to go, I’m just spacing them out.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes!
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
I wouldn't say funny
but
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Not many people would
Have you seen the spin-off blog? It’s about not crying for a year +. We just started it, but I can already feel it’s going to be huge.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
so...
is that difficult?
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Blogging? No.
Not crying? HECK YES. And we’re doing it all for a joke…oh, well. It’s come too far to go back now.
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I should start a blog about my celebacy
no joke. I have sworn off men for an entire year. Its fun
Sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Damn.
Even Ghandi failed at that.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Ghandi swore off men for a whole year?
Formerly known as 'Junior Del Norte' until I deleted my openID. It wasn't really an accident, but it wasn't really on purpose. Salaam
I knew it would happen right after I posted it.
In a famous interview his wife remarked that “fortunately” he had been unsuccessful in his attempts at celibacy.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I must add it is quite empowering.
whatever that means.
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
I swore off women for a while
I’d be like “Sorry, I know you want it but you can’t have it.” Depression rose among female Portlanders by 500% during that time.
Formerly known as 'Junior Del Norte' until I deleted my openID. It wasn't really an accident, but it wasn't really on purpose. Salaam
I heard about that
From the girls at Greek Cuisina. Their Forever 21 dresses were soaked in tears. And cosmos.
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
best answer ever
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
I recommended it because it's funny
But I am shamed that you would think I go for that type. First blazerfan1 thinks I like Paris Hilton and now you with this. I’m going home.
Formerly known as 'Junior Del Norte' until I deleted my openID. It wasn't really an accident, but it wasn't really on purpose. Salaam
Your new avatar is hilarious!
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Aug 22, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think we've burned each other enough to shrug this one off
But if not, I’m sorry. I know you like the girls at American Cowgirls, anyway.
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Aw, you know I'm joshin'
I didn’t swear off women, women swore off me. Actually that didn’t happen either. ANYHOW…have I actually burned you before? I don’t recall. Also I don’t know what American Cowgirls is.
Formerly known as 'Junior Del Norte' until I deleted my openID. It wasn't really an accident, but it wasn't really on purpose. Salaam
you should swear off women for a while
it is wayy harder for a man to do , or so I hear.
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Define "swear off" ;-)
Not even looking at them might be constructed as socially unacceptable.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
well no that is impossible
i highly doubt i will be successful. I also find sluttiness empowering as well. :)
Sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
hahahahahahahaha
i apologized for that didnt I? I have the funniest story about my 22 bday at the greek last year. im glad they are getting closed down.
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
A request for you consideration:
can you rotate you sig lines (rather than all three quotes at a time). I put it down to empathy for the blazers stacked roster – there are just too many good quotes.
The challenge is that on long chatty thready, which I like, the posts move to the right the lines become short ans you get 16 lines of signature for 2 lines of text.
Cheers, Alistair
Crying has always been an issue
for me because I cannot. Ironically that is really sad.
LOL
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
What?
You really physically cannot cry or you have empiracally found crying to be impossible?
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
dunno
i havent cried since I was a kid. No joke. Someone told me I am emotionally detached. I said " so you are telling me Im a sociopath?.. COOL!"
Sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
I've been called a sociopath before, too.
But it wasn’t for not crying or being detached (which I am) it was for lying to a psychologist.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
psychologists are the real sociopaths
and really the hubris one must possess to tell me what im thinking and what it means then collect my money!
haha now there is the scam, i hope you didnt pay him/her..
sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Nope, My insurance did.
Awesome!
You know, he’s not my favorite thinker ever, but Lacan did have the chutzpa to realize that the successful psychoanalyst/patient relationship was a near impossibility. All he needed to do was take the “near” out…
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah people that like to be dominated visit
phychoaholes.. sorry i dont have a problem with that if that is your thing but seriously my mom visits a psychologist every week, religiously and the guy “listens” to her has brainwashed convinced her into thinking she has adult add and depression and gives her pills and his book to read.. i wanna snatch her up out of that but she wont listen
phychoaholes.. sorry i dont have a problem with that if that is your thing but seriously my mom visits a psychologist every week, religiously and the guy “listens” to her has brainwashed convinced her into thinking she has adult add and depression and gives her pills and his book to read.. i wanna snatch her up out of that but she wont listen:(
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
I've often wondered
if a large percentage of the counseling/psychoanalysis biz would go away if everyone had at least one person in his/her life who would listen sympathetically.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Aug 22, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah i suppose im playing the
role of psychoahole when I start lecturing my mom and thus become exactly what im attempting to steer her away from. I heart my mama but not everything is fixed by a pill and that makes me mad.
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Sorry Sophia, I didn't mean to
sound like I was pointing a finger of responsibility at you. I’ve found that it’s often impossible to give a family member what he/she needs emotionally. The family dynamic messes things up as much as it can be a blessing. You can have the best of intentions but your relationship can prevent you from doing what you want, or it can prevent the person you’re trying to help from receiving that help. Anyway, I was just thinking more generically about everyone needing someone who listens sympathetically — a friend, a pastor… even a psychoanalyst.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Aug 22, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
no i agree with you
and i didnt think you were pointing a finger rather offering a different way to look at the topic
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
where is this blog?
I haven’t cried since the mid-nineties. I haven’t vomited since 2001. And I drink.
by Lance Uppercut on Aug 22, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
The Walla Wallas are Back at Burgerville.
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I've been drinking fresh wheat grass juice
All summer I’ve been drinking about 12-16 ounces of fresh wheat grass juice most mornings all summer. Twice it has caused me to vomit. Kinda queasy for about an hour, then all of a sudden barf. Green barf. Cleaned me out good. There’s nothing wrong with barfing. Matter of fact it’s probably good for you. I felt kinda sorry for my neighbor though, who was walking her dog right past my house when I was barfing over the railing of my deck. She must have wondered what was happening to the neighborhood.
Nature bats last.
I'm sure the dog was thinking...
Hey, that weird two-legged dog barfs after eating grass too!
by DonkeyShins on Aug 22, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
nothing wrong with barfing
thats must explain why Bulimics look so healthy
*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'
I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.
it's ok. i appreaciate people actually looking. it'll probably be a while until i'm done becasue i'm lazy.
I like to take criticism as constructive not mean spirited.
I'm sorry if I sounded mean. If you could hear my tone of voice as I read what I wrote . . . well maybe you would still think I was mean
I was just being really honest. That isn’t always a good thing though. A man once told me, “Somtimes honesty can be a club we beat people over the head with.” I’m sorry if I beat you over the head.
honestly, honesty is always a good thing!
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
WOW!!!
I read your page…maybe because us people in the Midwest are so caught up in religion and sprituality that we don’t take that much time trying to figure out what God is up to as opposed to trying to make our existence count,so we don’t ponder on such things and being an atheist or anything of the sort out in the Chi-town area is strictly prohibited…I can’t speak for all of us out here,but that was just di9fferent to see in b-ball blogspot…Hopefully you guys don’t lose that salary cap space due to Boston’s hunt for cheap talent
by dakidfromchitown on Aug 23, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
“…a team that I feel my personality fits with …”
What is he trying to say about the rest of the Celts?
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
Wow
Congrats to Mr. Miles. I’m happy for him.
It does seem like Ainge is doing this just to stick it to the Blazers. Its a non-guarenteed contract (of course) and there is no guarantee that Miles makes the team. I certainly can’t see him helping the Celtics, but we’ll see.
We will still have 15 mil of cap room (instead of 24), and we opened a roster spot, so what we did with Miles is still fine in my book.
Boston Globe Link: http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2008/08/celtics_get_mil.html
Boomshakalaka
Hmmm
What a poorly run organization, this really surprises me.
Let’s not forget, a team doctor as well as an independent doctor declared he was not fit to play NBA Basketball… but now, all of the sudden, he is magically healed? Doubt it. This is bad for the Celtics, bad for us, but most of all bad for Darius, who is setting himself up for another major injury, and more serious problems down the road.
Obviously, I’m not a doctor, and I don’t know… but how many responsible owners would sign a player already declared unable to play by independent doctors, it seems to be majorly opening the door for bad things to happen, and not to mention a lawsuit.
Poor decision making on account of both parties, if he gets signed. I hope he doesn’t get hurt again.
It might be interesting to learn
about the process of declaring a player medically unfit to play. I imagine this is something a team requests rather than a player. Also, I wonder what role the league plays in this process.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
There's no way
the Celtics would do this without him signing an ironclad release prepared by their lawyers. They aren’t opening themselves up to a lawsuit.
Maybe a major P.R. disaster, but many Boston fans probably wouldn’t care. They’d spin it as giving the guy the chance he wanted, and their fans would accept that.
He probably won’t actually make the team, but who knows?
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Yeah, I'm sure they are
But even releases aren’t guarantees to be free from liability. You’re right though, it’ probably closer to having th epotential for a big time PR disaster.
It just seems really strange to me… it’s all well and good for us fans to have constant conspiracy theory speculations about GMs trying to hurt the Blazers, but the real business world does not work like that, generally, even in Pro sports.
That said, I have two theories: Maybe The Celtics sign him, then propose a trade to Pritchard that is heavily in their favor… and if Pritchard says no, they can say “hey, Darius is looking good, he might play, oh maybe 20 games or so for us.”
Or, Pritchard worked out a behind the scenes deal already, where the celtics promised to sign Darius and never play him, in order to pre-empt any other team from actually signing him and playing him.
Ok, just had to lt out my conspircay theories. Seriously, I doubt he actually gets signed or plays. But who knows.
If I were to guess
I would guess that they would have league lawyers review the release as well. The league could get sued if they aren’t also protected.
If Darius plays, I would bet serious money that he has so effectively signed away his rights to take legal action that there is no chance of liability for the team or league.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Maybe Father John Geoghan laid hands upon Darius?
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist)
I know, I know. I’m going to hell.
by DonkeyShins on Aug 22, 2008 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I 'll start worrying if he is on
the roster during opening day.
I have hear rumors that Kevin McHale is willing to ship Kevin Love out for a vet like Darius
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I miss Isaiah Thomas.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Aug 22, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
dont we all?
There are a few pretty lame GM’s left but no one is even in his league as far as pure stupid
by southern oregon on Aug 22, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
so is this the same type of contract we have for Steven Hill?
potentially i mean? Is he signed for camp or something? I dunno. He still has to play 10 games, which will be after his 10 game suspension. The only thing this situation proves is :
1. Danny Ainge may have gotten lucky when a couple good situations fell in his lap and then won the championship, but he was still the GM on the chopping block for so many seasons for a reason. HE SUCKS.
2. Darius Miles agent is good. Really good. When i am unemployed sooner or later I am gonna stalk mr. agent and hire him.
Sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
He could probably get you a spot on a WNBA roster based on your high basketball IQ
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
I'm really resisting my knee-jerk reaction to just trash the WNBA evertime I see it mentioned.
I will say that your comment doesn’t seem to me to be an exaggeration of any kind.
The WNBA is trash
And, as I’ve mentioned before, it’s degrading to women.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
AH HA! We agree
lol
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Did we already have this conversation?
I feel like we did, still, it’s worth bringing up again. If anyone’s interested, that is.
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I've posted this Bill Simmons quote here before, but few things have made me laugh harder upon initial read so, at the risk of being redundant, I'll post it again:
All right, I’ll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the WNBA is starting Year 12?
I cant remember if you were in the "do you like the WNBA?" thread
but I was all over it. Probably too much. Im not even a feminist but it doesnt take one to see how it is conveying a messaget that women are not as good as men. I tried to find the link, it’s long gone..
your thoughts?
Sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
See below
I tried to sum it up in my response to jonestr, but you already hit the nail on the head.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont see how
it is degrading to women, could you please expand on this or shoot me a link to where this was discussed.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
No problem
Take this year’s advertising campaign—stars of the WNBA look into the camera and repeat common criticisms against the league, like, “there’s no defense,” “they’re not athletic,” etc. This is followed with the text, “would you say that to her face?”
Now, we all know the WNBA is not popular enough for prime time television. It’s ratings reflect that year after year. However, the TV contract is always renewed. Why? If the WNBA was a sitcom, it would have been canceled long ago. The reason is because people feel obligated to continue with the sham because of some responsibility to women and to girls who we want to be sure to assure can do whatever they want when they grow up.
Well, that’s ridiculous. Giving women a televised sport out of pity is insulting. Carrying on the charade with the guise of “the best interests of girls in mind” is condescending. Trying to “guilt” people into watching women’s basketball (a la the advertising campaign I described above) is despicable and humiliating.
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It's cool
The distinction between PF and C can do strange things to a man.
:)
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I said I was sorry, so that means I'm supposed to be over it now right?
How come I’m fighting every fiber of my being to not start this arguement again.
LOL DO IT!
at the core of it all you are defending your manhood and I always enjoy watching that.
Sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
How do you know that the tv agreement
is not part of the larger deal with the NBA?
"If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal
But what if...
…they wore sexy, skin tight jerseys like the Australian and Brazilian teams?
That’s my key to a successful WNBA. They got some attractive lady-womens, but who can tell in those baggy jerseys and huge shorts. Not even a HINT of the lovely female form. Might as well be ogling Carmelo Anthony.
Then, people (men) can watch the WNBA for the same reason they watch tennis or woman’s volleyball (both beach and normal)— to see nice looking athletic woman do sports in clothing that complements their fine physiques, and then eventually start to enjoy the game itself.
It’s the easiest most obvious fix in the world. Make ’em look good, not shapeless shorter lesser versions of men!
Would anyone know who Sharapova is if she wore a ankle-length church dress to play in? Women’s tennis isn’t as intense as men’s, but it’s still popular. Ain’t nuthin’ wrong with making nice looking people look nice, right?
Mortimer
It's not just that
The basketball court is a lot different than a tennis court. With the basket being 10 feet tall, the difference in athletic skills is readily apparent. Namely, (arguably?) the most exciting part of the NBA is almost null and void in the WNBA, the dunk. Also, I’m not sure it it’s hand size that they can’t grip the ball, or body posture in such a vertical game, but the look so much more awkward than guys.
In tennis, the competition is pretty close and it is nearly as appealing as it is in the men’s. From an unexperienced eye, they look like the have the same moves and it is fun to watch. With volleyball (seriously, do you watch volleyball outside of the Olympics?) the net is at 8 feet and they CAN spike it. It looks similar to the guys, again from an untrained eye. All in all it’s fun to watch, even when Maria isn’t on the court. And Maria, if you’re reading this that doesn’t mean I don’t love you. You can stop playing hard to get anytime now.
Anyway, the competition in the popular women sports seems a lot better. There are differences in the amount of explosive muscle strength they have, but it really isn’t that apparent. The way that basketball is, however, they are competing with the men in the mind of the viewer, even if they aren’t on the court. And they get smashed in that competition. The difficulty of getting up that high in the air is so difficult, and the way the guys do it with such ease is just absolutely amazing. The fact that it is a vertical game puts a heavy emphasis on just pure vertical jump. Women just simply don’t have the ridiculous vertical leap that is the staple of the NBA. Moreover, women playing basketball are not nearly as graceful. That’s right, even guys are more graceful than girls in bball, an adjective that girls have almost a compete monopoly on.
If they wore tight outfits and had some amazing looking girls, I would probably keep it on for a couple of more minutes. But once the timeout ended, I would still have to change the channel.
being guilted into watching wnba
I wasnt thinking so much quilt but some a couple of co-workers who just happen to drive Subarus, are always trying to convince me the wnba is worth watching. They say its a better brand of basketball, and more entertaining. They also suggest the ladies play without the egotism and selfishness- without naming names I think we all know who they’re referring to. Although loathsome of them to try to generate guilt and control you into watching it, the real act of dispicability would be being guilted into watching the wnba.
Remember, Wnba fans are alot like Amway salesman, if you dont understand the scheme, might might get pulled in.
*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'
I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.
Don't over-react
Boston has 13 guaranteed contracts already. They are also well over the luxury tax threshold, meaning that if they sign anyone else he will cost them 2x as much as his actual salary. So, they will need a significant reason to sign a new player – any new player.
Also remember that even if he survives training camp and the pre-season, Darius will have to be paid to sit for 10 games before Boston (or any other team) can get any production back for their investment.
And, Boston will probably bring in at least 5 other players who will try to make the roster. Each of them in the same boat as Darius, most of them making less money (see above’s comments about tax). And they have yet to sign Bill Walker, who conveniently is also a SF.
Add this in to what we’ve heard about the state of Darius’ knees and the odds are still waaaaaaay against Miles being on the Celtics come November. I’m not concerned. Either Stephen Hill or Luke Jackson have a much, much, much better chance of making the Blazer roster than Darius does of making the Celtics roster, IMO.
by Storyteller on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Whoops!
Make that potentially 14 guaranteed contracts. Bill Walker just signed.
I don’t know the details of Walker’s deal, but even if it’s not guaranteed, that’s one more player that’s going to stand in Miles’ way. A cheaper player than Miles ($$$$) who’s also younger.
Good news!
I just spoke briefly with Darius's agent.
He sounded very happy. Hopefully I will have more to come here this afternoon.
BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON (SERIOUSLY DOG)
You are a G
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
OMG !!!! you again?
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
oh my bad
well it is a good thing mr fu
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
like the big bad wolf in the neighborhood
not bad meaning
but bad meaning good
*"Meow" --- my cat Bonzi quoting Shakespeare -- 'Expectation is the root of all heartache.'
I personally do not always approve of the things my cat wants posted but have to wonder after that #5 ranking if frankly we havent earned it.
people... keep... telling ... me ... that.
BRANDON ROY GET WELL SOON (SERIOUSLY DOG)
by Ben Golliver on Aug 22, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
The Celtics are rolling a dice here
They are pretty much capped out with their big three, and can only afford role players to fill out their roster. They lost Posey in the off-season, and now need help on the SF spot. A Darius that is even remotely close to his former self would be a great addition there. And if he isn’t healthy and able to contribute, they have no problem cutting it (apart from the moral problem of probably ruining his life for good if he blows out his knee again).
P.S.: Steve Kerr said in an interview with 95.5 that they looked at Darius, too, and he didn’t impress them. Whatever this is worth.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
It was bad enough when Rasheed got a title in Detroit
What will people in Portland do when DARIUS gets his in Boston?
This all goes back to my original and unanswerable Blazers question: why were people in Portland happy when Clyde won a title with the Rockets?
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
Becuase
I love Clyde Drexler and want good things for him. I hope his dancing gets better for the next dancing with the stars
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Still weird to me.
And I mean, it’s weird that people’s allegiance to Clyde transcended team sports and it’s weird he was so lackadaisical in his Dancing with the Stars experience.
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
can I ask if you were following the
team at that time? Maybe it was just me and my clear cut belief of good and evil during adolescence, but Clyde and Terry=good and MJ=bad. I honestly believe I would have taken a bullet for either Terry or Clyde during that time. Now I would take a body blow, but nothing in the face.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I was born and raised in Portland, friend
and I followed the team religiously and loved Terry Porter like you did.
But—for whatever reason—I couldn’t stand Clyde. I felt like he (on rare occasions) could make the team worse.
I’ve tried to sum up my feelings about this many times—seriously, I’ve tried to write a fanpost on this at least ten times—and I’m not sure if I’m ready to describe what it was that made me Blazers-first Clyde-second and everyone else the other way around.
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
For sure
This is a situation where enough of the people I trust and love disagree with me, so I’m willing to accept I’m wrong.
I just can’t force myself to feel “right.”
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't exactly agree
but I kind of understand.
I liked Clyde, but the reason those teams won and competed for a championship was because Terry, Jerome, and Buck were winners. Clyde was a scorer and a great athlete, great scorer, and a team player, but somehow he didn’t know how to make his teams into winners, championship teams. It seemed like too often, when a big play was needed, Clyde blew it. That team got around and almost won championships because with guys like Terry and Buck, you didn’t need Clyde to make big plays — they did it.
When we constructed our Blazer dream teams a few weeks back, I took Clyde. He was probably the best player we’ve ever had (though a case could be made for Walton, but his time was too short). But he was never my favorite player, not even close. I can understand someone not liking him.
And there’s no doubt that on occasions, he made the team worse. It was strange. But it happened.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Clipper fans are fearing Livingston could sign with the Lakers and unexpectedly become an All-Star there
Like with Darius winning a championship with the Celtcis, probably an unreasonable fear but still a remote possibility.
Did I post about my weird dream were Greg Oden won championships wearing a yellow jersey with purple applications? It was a nightmare.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
+1
FUNNY
COMMENT
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Aug 22, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
greg oden dreams
since you mention your oden nightmare, I had one last week
Greg convinced me to smuggle chicken soup in a small barrel with a toxic waste label on it through an airport and got me in trouble with the department of homeland security.
Clyde was different.
We actually cheered for the person. Normally, we cheer for laundry.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
unguaranteed.
Good move by the Celts, IMO.
Not.
Is that still funny?
Blazers Edge... the blog that works.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Aug 22, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
Of course.
Psych.
WWSBD?
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by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
your mom.
Blazers Edge... the blog that works.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Aug 22, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Is a saint.
WWSBD?
TRADE 4 THE STACHE!
by nightbluefruit on Aug 22, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah...
they won’t actually hold him…
right?
Blazers Edge... the blog that works.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Aug 22, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I hoped he would be signed by New York
Not because Boston wouldn’t be the better place to be. Just because he could have done his strange “double fists to the forehead” gesture with Q Richardson again like back in the old days. I still haven’t figured out what this was supposed to mean. Devil’s horns? We are head cases?
See this old commercial for Air Jordan XVII were they do it when they were both with the Clippers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalC0ucPfaQ
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
I think you are right.
I heard that a long time ago some coach called them knuckle heads. So they came up with the headbonk.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps it means "I am being cuckolded"
Since Darius was always out at the strip bars – it may be like the old Johnnie Taylor song “Who’s Making Love (To Your Old Lady While You Were Out Making Love)”
by DonkeyShins on Aug 22, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
freaking
I think I hate Boston more than LA now – at least they try to beat us on the court.
Ever play the (computer) game of Life?
If so, you may have created or witnessed one of those not-uncommon scenarios in which a large, stable, coherent structure is chugging along, happily recreating itself over and over, like a peaceful, successful community… but what’s that at the lower left of the screen? It’s a walker, heading this way! You watch in fascination as it walks slowly but decidedly toward the structure like a missile in slow-mo, strikes it, and generates all kinds of chaos.
That’s what’s starting in Boston right now. Grab your popcorn and soda, this should be very entertaining.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Aug 22, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The blazers are no worse off now than before he medically retired
The team hasn’t lost anything, they just may not get the bonus they were hoping to get.
No wishing him the best.
The procedure followed by the Blazers is that the league and the players union appointed an independent doctor to examine the evidence and issue a ruling. That ruling affected the Blazers, Miles, and any team interested in Miles. It was the Blazers, however, who had the risk. Miles was, after all, under contract. And when the ruling was issued, Miles was not willing to give the Blazers the same contract that he then went out and offered to all other teams. Instead, he kept the Blazers guaranteed contract, which they have to pay regardless of whatever contract he signed with NY. In sum, if NY pays the minimum, then the Blazers pay the difference between the minimum and the $9 million/year they owe Darius.
Darius and his agent, in sum, took advantage of the situation. Some of you who wish him the best should keep that in mind. If he’d offered the Blazers the same deal he offered all other teams – basically, let me play and I’ll show you I’m worthy of a roster spot, and I’ll also absolve you of liability if I reinjure myself – then I can understand your position.
But he didn’t do that.
As a Blazer fan, I have no sympathy for Miles or his agent. He was not a $9 million/year player – knew it, and every other team knew it. But the Blazers pay for it.
Now, if he should make the roster, the Blazers also lose the cap space, just as they lost the player. The cap space was nothing more than an off-set to the salary they must still pay – but gave them the ability to replace him without penalties.
Under the circumstances, its in my interest that he blows the knee out and never plays again.
So, no wishing him the best here.
OMG +1 million
i have a less subtle and more violent way of displaying my disgust for the situation but then again someone might call me racist
sophia
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
The Blazers didn't want him to bring him back now
KP stated that the surgeon who examined Darius stated that he should never play basketball again, potentially requiring knee replacement surgery if it gets injured again. He said he didn’t want that risk on his mind, potentially ruining not just the career but the life of a player.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Man, that's cold
I don’t think it’s necessary to have any sympathy for Darius, but wishing him harm is just as unnecessary. Probably more so. We’re talking about cap space here, not money for starving orphans.
So don’t wish him the best, but don’t wish him injury either.
by Lance Uppercut on Aug 22, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
I hope he doesn’t make the team. I hope the Celtics have second thoughts.
If he blows out his knee, and needs knee replacement, he’ll be able to walk fine, but may never really be able to play basketball with his kid, let alone in the NBA. And by the end of his life, he may end up in a wheelchair. No, I don’t hope that on him, or anyone.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
P.S.
I know what it’s like to not really be able to play ball with your kids anymore. I don’t have anywhere near the problems he’ll have if he blows his knee. But it is still a downer.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
I agree
All team loyalties aside, these are real people we’re talking about. Even if you don’t like how it turned out with Darius he was a Blazer and we used to applaud him when he was healthy. Obviously it’s better for the Blazers if he doesn’t make Boston’s squad this year but wishing him injury seems pretty harsh.
—Dave
I don't think anyone
wishes him harm. Darius has a lot of money. And we want the cap space for this team. Sure it won’t hurt us THAT much if he plays. But it sure won’t help us as much as if he were to just enjoy his retirement.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno
Some people (cough Eben Calder cough) seemed to be rooting for Darius to get hurt.
I don’t think Eben is the only one. I’m sure there are people out there who, in my opinion, are pretty mean-spirited about the Darius situation and wish he’d go away somehow— not even taking into consideration the human element, the young career ended element, or the fact that we’re situated just fine.
It’s petty, and some people are petty. Not saying Eben is petty, but I think if someone wishes bad things to happen to Darius just so we have more cap space… that’s pretty petty.
Mortimer
agreed.
I just want the cap space.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
not mean spirited, just realistic
for the warm fuzzy, you want darious to get it right this time. hell as a multi-failure myself, the guy could be a role modal for me if he makes it. not many people to look to as an example when youve gone as far down the rabit hole as I have, most just dont ever get it, sometimes I wonder if I ever will. so go darious.
but for the ULTAMATE health of the team, its in the best interest for dmails to not play out the season. period. thats not evil, thats just real. nothing wrong with it either, just how it is. there is no ill will involved, just no emotional atatchment to miles.
people like to get warm and fuzzy for ima, but he made his own bed too. tried to play hardball with pritchard and allens wallet, him and his agent talking big bucks with the spurs…. well we didnt take him back, and he signed with them for waaay less then the original. i could care less. if darious dont make, i could care less, in fact, good.
now, that doesnt meen I want his knee to xplode, dont care if it does mind you, but really what I wont mind is, if the drs turn out to be right, wont mind a bit. in fact would prefer it. yup. I hope pritchard, the nba, those drs, and everybody involved with this decision will turn out to be right. seams pretty streight to me. darious has been medically retired.
does anybody remember being happy when it all went down? happy = petty? i mean, the guys a person, right?
is anybody swetting this? if you are, its becouse you have a vested interest in it somehow, regardless of how small.
now, if someone wants to get all tonya harding on the guy, well, now that a different fanpost.
"Next up, an event we will be following this through Celtic training camp: the Trail Blazers’ fan base competes in sychronized sweating."
--- LaoTzu on Aug 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
dude, your catching some critisizm from the talking heads
but I think your thoughts are well measured. I appriciate the breakdown.
one thing,they play the game that has been constucted and by the rules in place. Its not malice that drives him to offer ptwn(the city, not me) a 9 mil contract, its the fact that he can. you have to hate raif as well. the rules tell him this is what you can do, so thats what he does. hes playing the game of life and basketball within the perameters defined. Only if life was fair could we REALLY get upset, but since we all(should) know that its not…. well…
from a clinicly sterile, coldly and calculating view point, your 100% correct. A healthy Darrious restricts(if ever so slightly) our movements. your statement towards your interest as a blazer fan is founded for ALL blazer fans, regardless of weather they want to admit it or not.
Further.
As a further. Keep in mind that the independent medical examiners ruling also prevented the Blazers from trading Miles, or getting any value for him, let alone, offsetting his guaranteed contract. So, Darius plays, but they pay for it, couldn’t trade him, and get absolutely no value.
Why care?
It’s not your money.
The Blazers were the ones who overpaid for Miles in the first place.
Miles getting a career ending injury was nobody’s fault.
Only an idiot agrees to waive a guarenteed contract for $9 million for a vet’s minimum deal with the same team, just to prove he can still play.
Miles is not screwing anybody but possibly himself, if he does end up re-injuring his knee.
Ainge is trying out a guy, who if healthy, could be a useful piece. It’s his job. Plus, why should he worry about the possibility of Darius re-injuring himself. Miles is an adult. If he wants to take that risk, I don’t lose any sleep over it if I’m Ainge.
So – why care?
"If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal
I disagree on one point
I think Ainge is taking advantage of a fool. I wouldn’t want to do that.
In fact, if they keep Darius on, I wouldn’t want to work for the organization. They don’t have their employee’s interests in view.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
At what point are people responsible for their actions then?
If Darius’ doctors tell him he shouldn’t play and he decides he wants to, that’s his decision.
I know I wouldn’t like it if I wanted to do something that entailed risk and was told I couldn’t because someone else thought it was a bad idea. The time someone could do that to me ended when I transistioned from child to adult.
Hey there jscot, I don’t want you to go skiing anymore, as you could hurt yourself. Same with riding a bike. People fall off their bikes and hurt themselves and at your advanced age it could be serious.
Seriously, Miles is an adult. If there is a large degree of risk and he still wants to do it, why should Ainge (or any other GM) deny him the chance. He should perhaps ensure that he’s talked to Darius and gone over what’s at stake, but if Miles is intent on making a comeback, he should not be prohibited because someone is worried about him.
"If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal
Would you sell a gun
to someone who is suicidal? No.
OK, that’s extreme. Let’s try something else.
Should a bartender sell alcohol to someone who is visibly drunk? I think the law in most states says no. Why? Because they aren’t thinking straight, and it would be wrong to profit by taking advantage of them.
If the medical evidence is conclusive, then Darius isn’t thinking straight. Does anyone doubt that it is possible that Darius is not thinking straight? He’s a poster child for “not thinking straight”, always has been. He’s not as bad as some people make him out to be, but he’s certainly a “not thinking straight” kind of guy.
Prohibited from making a comeback? Who’s talking about prohibition? There’s a difference between prohibiting somebody and saying, “I’m not going to be part of you destroying your health.”
If the doctor really said what KP has quoted him as saying (and if KP lied about that, we would know about it by now), then I’ve got a lot more respect for KP than for Ainge.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
All of you!! Stop being so sellfish!!
Think about all of the poor strippers around the city of Portland! Last year Z-BO, now Miles, Kemp is playing in Europe! Who’s going to make it rain now?
2-4 the who
me
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
lol
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
Ainge is trying the Counter-Pritchslap
Bill Walton: The degree of difficulty here is amazing, Bob.
Bob Costas: This is a daredevil maneuver! It does appear that Ainge has recovered some of his old form, and … wait, yes, Ainge appears to be Pritchslapping himself!?
Bill: Danny is taking the recent USA Today poll way too seriously. He is trying to do anything to stop the Trailblazers juggernaut toward a decade of Celtic-like dominance by taking away some of the Blazers’ future cap space.
Bob: And to submarine a major set of moves expected from Prichard when he gets that cap space, Ainge is willing to take on the obvious liability of a Darius Miles.
Bill: Exactly, Bob. Ainge is risking alot here, but this might be recongized down the road as his best move ever.
Bon: Well, this MIGHT BE the smartest move ever by a non-Pritchard NBA GM.
Bill: Or the stupidist. This Darius move is a carefully designed pre-slap to stop Pritchard from Pritchslapping him happy with the immense leverage of all that cap room down the road. You know that Ainge is an obvious Pritchard target. I think this he has to do this or risk accidentally giving away Garnett to the stacked Blazers.
Bob: Well, Bill, you do know stupid so I gotta rely on you on this one. Deep. Real deep. Next up, an event we will be following this through Celtic training camp: the Trail Blazers’ fan base competes in sychronized sweating.
'77
by LaoTzu on Aug 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I'll never forget his face
after the draft lottery and then the Telfair trade/beatdown. I’m sure this was retaliation, IM SURE OF IT. Even if Darius’s leg falls off 11 games into the season he got us back a little.
"I've been through a lot, like......World War I, World War 2"
- Greg Oden
by Blazin'aTrail on Aug 22, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll never forget the look on his face
When Tree Rollins took a bite out his finger!! Bwa ha ha !!!
2-4 the who
20 games into the season...
otherwise its meaningless
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
by Honka Playboy on Aug 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
gotcha
i guess i wrote that thinking he would play in the first 10 games of the season, but really thats if he makes the team after the pre-season then make it onto the court while playing with the defending champs.
"I've been through a lot, like......World War I, World War 2"
- Greg Oden
Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers.
- Homer Simpson
by Blazin'aTrail on Aug 22, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Great job!
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 22, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope he plays
I have this sick desire to see Miles pull this kinda terror in Boston. I don’t know why but to see that from miles would almost be worth 10 Million.
We went like this, he went like that. I say to Hollywood: Where'd he go? Hollywood says: where'd who go?
i allways feal sad inside when i watch that vid
"Next up, an event we will be following this through Celtic training camp: the Trail Blazers’ fan base competes in sychronized sweating."
--- LaoTzu on Aug 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
I can't wait for Bill Simmons to explain to me why exactly Darius is a good fit for his Celtics
I would want to see Miles on the Celtics for the start of the season just to read that.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Oh, he rips his Boston teams as often as he lauds them.
Especially current versions (teams gone by get nothing but glory).
I wouldn’t be surprised if he lets rip with some withering criticism over the Darius thing.
=(_8c(|)
Bad for Portland
Who is going to put the strippers through college now and support their kids? This is just sad. All those hard working women just trying to make a buck and now their best customer is leaving town…. truely a tragedy.
Anyone care to explain the Larry Bird rule?
My understanding is we can go way over the salary cap to sign Roy and Oden because they are franchise players. Anyone know about this? Also does the rule apply to Aldridge?
My understanding is that
a team can spend as much as it wants to retain a player. So we can have as many Larry Bird’s as we want. The trouble is that when you are over the cap, you lack flexibility. But getting that big free agent signing they are always talking about is largely myth, anyway. And you always have the draft and the there are cap exceptions, licke the mid-level exception giving you a little room. The good news there about getting the right pieces to fill out the team is that folks will want to come here to get rings.
So when we resign Oden and Roy and LMA and etc., we will be over the cap. That is fine, but our hands will be tied, and Paul Allen will be paying a hefty luxury tax, in all probability. Think NY Yankees.
We plan on having this little window before needing to resign these players where we can get a final, major piece during free-agency, signing someone like King James to a contract. I Think that Lebron would solve all our questions at the 3.
The less cap space we have to work with during this window, the less flexibility KP has to punk other GMs.
'77
The short version
A team can go over the cap (or go further over the cap if they are already above the cap) to re-sign their own free agent who has not changed teams as a free agent for 3 years.
The team can offer them up to the maximum amount allowable for that player by the CBA (that maximum amount is different for different players or else I would be more precise) for up to 6 years.
Oden, Roy and Aldridge will all have “Larry Bird Rights” if/when they become free agents.
I'm not miffed as a Blazer fan.
I’m perturbed as a Maurice Cheeks admirer.
Ah well . . . just another reason for the old Celts/Sixers rivalry to get physical again.
If I were Mo, I’d put Reggie Evans on Darius.
=(_8c(|)
Blah Blah Blog
Blah blah blah poor stripper joke. Blah blah blah blah Danny Ainge sucks. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Darius getting injured joke. Blah blah blah.
I have no worries about Darius playing in the NBA ever again.
by OURVYDAS on Aug 22, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
138 POSTS!
Over @ our sister ( with red hair, crooked teeth, and hairy armpits ) sight Green Bandwagon…….1 post.
2-4 the who
And that one post is from a Portland Fan
We went like this, he went like that. I say to Hollywood: Where'd he go? Hollywood says: where'd who go?
Are you describing Brian Scalabrine?
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Yeah, but a bunch of it is talk about chastity and crying.
So it’s a Vlade Divac discussion.
=(_8c(|)
WAIT!!! WAIT!!!
I’m so upset!
I was assured, assured, ASSURED, I SAY, that Portland had leaked the information about his drug suspension to keep this from happening! People said so on the Internet, so it must be true! This CAN’T happen. I know it. People said it wouldn’t, all because Portland intentionally and immorally leaked info about his drug suspension. That was going to RUIN his chance to ever get a chance with another team. People said so. We ruined his future career chances forever. We did. This report must be a lie.
The “LEAK” failed! Argh! Boston ignored it because they thought he might be able to help their team! No………..!!!!!!!! How dare they?
Oh, and the other leak, too! About his medical condition. KP is still going to be prosecuted. He said bad things about Darius’ knee, and that was supposed to put off other teams. It didn’t work! Oh, no! No, no, no!!!!
You mean that Boston ignored the “LEAKS” that the Blazers supposedly immorally gave out to supposedly keep other teams from signing Darius? How dare they ignore our leaks and try to improve their team? How dare they?
And we ripped Darius off by pushing him to get a medical retirement. HE didn’t want it. It only helped us. It ended his career. He’ll never have a chance to show he’s good enough again! This was a Blazer conspiracy, all because Darius is from East St. Louis. Now, he’s done, and all he has to show for it is an 8 figure income over the next two years! Poor Darius! The Blazers did wrong by him, and he’s just the victim.
Sigh….
I’m so disillusioned. KP is a bad guy, and did all these terrible things that people said, and was stupid enough not to realize that it wouldn’t work.
Next, someone is going to tell me that KP DIDN’T use mind control to make Bayless drop in the draft.
Really, I do have three questions.
1. Will those who suggested the Blazers immorally leaked the news of Darius’ drug suspension (to kill his chances to make another team) now admit that it was never going to kill his chances, and this proves it, and thus it was kind of silly to suggest there was nefarious intent behind the leak (if it did come out of Portland at all)?
2. Will those who suggested the Blazers’ comments about Darius’ medical condition were an immoral attempt to kill his future chances now admit that the things the Blazers said were never going to kill his future chances, and this proves it, and that therefore to attribute nefarious intent to their comments was kind of silly?
3. Will those who suggested the Blazers did something wrong re: Darius’ medical retirement now admit that if Darius really can play ball, he hasn’t been hurt at all by his medical retirement, but in fact will be richer and better off in other ways by playing in Boston or somewhere else, that the risk was all Portland’s, and that in fact accusations against Portland in this matter is absurd?
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
nice...
though that seemed like a lot of work (typing) just to get knickfan to eat crow.
Blazers Edge... the blog that works.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Aug 22, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Since he’s usually right, it’s worth some effort when he blows it so badly.
But I’m also targeting timbo here.
Besides, I type really fast. In fact, faster than I think, too often, which should have been very evident by now….
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
ive been watching my name is earl
hears the link, dont take the download they offer, and you have to use firefox
http://tvliveshows.com/my-name-is-earl/
"Next up, an event we will be following this through Celtic training camp: the Trail Blazers’ fan base competes in sychronized sweating."
--- LaoTzu on Aug 22, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
I dont mind him geting a shot
at making a team but this is Darius the Uberslacker we are talking about,he slacked on the rehab and is too lazy to get in shape thus the only way he could make the team is plan for him to walk around for the last minute of 10 games that are already decided. No way Ainge could cram that down the owner or the coachs throats because it would cost them a pile of dough and hurt their team and all they get it is a jerk jacket
by southern oregon on Aug 22, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
On the other hand, Telfair for Garnett didn't turn out too bad
he owes us. We sent him Telfair. Where would he have been wothout Telfair?
I just realized, even if Darius doesn't make the Celtics' regular-season roster . . .
. . . for the sake of his rehab, just being given a chance and then getting the rehab benefits of training camp
make this development well worth it for him for his road back from inactivity.
At the very least, he’ll get two months’ worth of training facilities and conditioning coaching.
He’s gotta be missing Jay Jensen right about now, y’know?
So when he finally DOES suit up in meaningful competition, even though it’ll probably be in Europe or something,
he couldn’t have done it without the help of the Celtics rehab resources for a key couple of months,
plus the day-to-day activity of banging against NBA talent and getting NBA coachi—oh, wait. It’s still Doc Rivers.
=(_8c(|)
"NBA coachi—oh, wait. It’s still Doc Rivers." lol.
Does anybody remember that interview series that the Blogfather did with the professional NBA gambler? I can’t remember his name, just that he is one of the few people who makes money betting the on the NBA . . . anyways, I remember him saying something to the effect that Doc Rivers is the worst coach at managing a game in the NBA. He conceded that perhaps Doc Rivers has off court talents in the form of motivation or some such thing, but he couldn’t fathom how that would make up for his terrible game management (see "coaching") abilities.
That part stuck with me because he validated something I’d always thought to myself: Doc Rivers really doesn’t have a clue about how to coach a basketball game.
That was the BEST interview ever
so enlightening! :)
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That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
"I was walkin’ down the street rocking my swaggah and was suddently Shrewed."
-SloppyJoe
And it's true, e.g. he is the anti-Nate when it comes to calling plays to execute after timeouts
Portland is statistically among the best teams in the league in the first play after a timeout. Boston is THE worst. Whatever he is telling his players, either they aren’t listening or he draws up useless game plays.
I guess overall he’s not the worst coach in the league and better than e.g. Brown in Cleveland, whom Popovich coaches circles around. But still it’s amazing that Phil Jackson wasn’t able to benefit from the many small mistakes he made during the finals (Sam Cassell is still getting solid minutes, really?).
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
Break a leg Darius...
How come last time I said that it disappeared? It’s used in proper context isn’t it? Not to say that I wouldn’t mind it happening for real though…Was it deleted? I’m not upset just curious.
I was going to write that
haha
but seriously, my “break a leg” would only mean good luck.
I doubt it, but if he can come back, good for him.
Darius article, very funny
"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
haha i actually alwayz tipe lik dat
"Thank God those nightmarish booty-less days are behind us. I blame cocaine."-Mortimer
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
The Green Miles? Really?
I do hope he dunks on Scalabrine in training camp.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
I know why Ainge did it..
REVENGE!!!
BLAZERS:
CELTICS:
(you know this was a brick)
And for once, I don’t blame Ainge. Its hard to deal with a trade like that.
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan
by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 22, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
Proves Darius is a crustacean
very shellfish indeed
"Man, you go through life, you try to be nice to people, you struggle to resist the urge to punch'em in the face, and for what?! For some pimply little puke to treat you like dirt unless you're on their team. Well, I'm better than dirt- well, most kinds of dirt. I mean, not that fancy store-bought dirt. That stuff's loaded with nutrients. I --- I can't compete with that stuff."-- Moe
I'm guessing that although any contract during the season
is guaranteed, I don’t see an insurance company touching it with a ten foot pole. If Darius gets hurt, Boston would most likely be responsible for the full amount of the contract.
And if James Posey hadn’t left, there wouldn’t even be a roster spot available. I say it’s all Posey’s fault.
Koponen - PG of the future. For Italy, that is. Book it.
The league’s insurance would almost assuredly cover him.
Trustmark is the carrier and they have the right to exclude only 14 player’s body parts and six players, chosen at their discretion. That is 20 players and parts out of about 420 they can exclude.
Those are used for players with very large contracts. Deng’s back, Z’s Feet, Amare’s knee, Ford’s Neck for instance.
Half a season, since it would not kick in for 41 games, would be a 440K risk… 80% of 41 games max coverage for the insurance company.
The team could also negotiate in their own exclusion for his knee to cover them the first part of the season, even give him a guaranteed contract for say two years excluding his knee… except for when all contracts are guaranteed from Jan. 10 to the end of the season.
Worse case for the team would be he re-injured the knee just after half a season, so the insurance would not kick in…that risk is about 400K.
I have a different question…
League’s insurer Trustmark pays Miles 80% of the rest of his Blazers contract (already have paid it I saw somewhere)…they might be cheering for him to come back… would the Blazers be stuck paying back the insurance company if he plays 10 games and goes back on the cap?
Even Larry Coon says he does not know that one. Canzano said he was told the blazers did not have to pay in that case in an email almost 2 years ago… but he did not source it…
Dave can you dig up that one?
stop sniffiling
look we are loaded we dont need cap space we need time together ..we have all we need why are you people wanting to add a savy vetran..we can create that from within…we have all we need.. we dont need the cap space any one who wants to win will come to us we diont need to over pay any one to take shots away from jaryd, rudy , lamarcus, greg, brandon travis or martell,, we are set folks,,just be paitent,, and as far as darius is concerned,,he deserves a chance, I despise the way the blazers made him an out cast, he couldnt even come to the PF if other blazers were in the building.. he told us he was ready to play back in december so why areyou shocked ,its sad,, I hope he makes the team and scorches us for 40,,,as long as we win by 10
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