BEDGER DEBATES

by blazerholic5 on Aug 20, 2008 1:18 PM PDT Comment 26 comments

Hey bedgers

I was thinking since theres not much to post about in the summer we should start player debating,in which everyday there would be a post about a player from the blazers and another player(not a blazer ),and u bedgers would debate on who u would rather have on our team .Well not exactly who youd like on your team but who is and will be the better player.Becuz then ever1 would be bias .OK its still gonna be kinda bias .

Today the two debates r between

Lamarcus Aldridge - Carlose Boozer

Brandon Roy - Micheal Redd

debate on bedgers

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ummm

brandon roy and lamarcus aldridge would be on my team because , they already ARE on my team? I dont understand. Maybe the two players should be

Manu Ginobli-Rudy Fernandez
Travis Outlaw-Rudy Gay

That is like asking Greg Oden or Shaq…?

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by BlazerFan1 on Aug 20, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

brandon roy and lamarcus aldridge would be on my team because , they already ARE on my team?

ummm.. isn’t that akin to ~~saying~~ asking.. “gas would be the fuel for my car because gas IS the fuel for my car?”

ummm.. isn’t that akin to ~~saying~~ asking.. “gas would be the fuel for my car because gas IS the fuel for my car?”This seems like awfully shaky logic.

ummm.. isn’t that akin to ~~saying~~ asking.. “gas would be the fuel for my car because gas IS the fuel for my car?”This seems like awfully shaky logic.p.s. He’s a kid and you’re not, and the replacements you suggest are just as flimsy.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Aug 20, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm..

I’m not sure why it did it three times; that’s not how I wrote it – I’ve never seen that before.

Anyway, the last line is the only one I meant to post.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Aug 20, 2008 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But it made a point.... 3 times

I get your logic, but I thinks she’s referring to her affinity for the players. Assuming, she’s thinking of swapping the gas in her car for another amount of gas, she’s just saying, I like the gas in my car, so I’ll stick with that. The logic’s there even though it may not be the type of logic that gets you the best possible team talent wise. It will, however, make her happy, which is a pretty good result.

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by hobobob on Aug 21, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The LMA/Boozer one is at least a little tempting

But I’d still take LMA.

The Roy/Redd one is ludicrous. Maybe try Roy/D.Wade. That might spark some actual debate.

I kind of think Blazerfan1’s debate suggestions are a little ludicrous as well, but in the opposite direction. I’d take Rudy Gay over Outlaw in a heartbeat, and I like Travis. I’d also take Manu over Rudy—bald spot and all.

WWSBD?

TRADE 4 THE STACHE!

by nightbluefruit on Aug 20, 2008 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

thats the reason they spark debate

you know , to get all the homers to FREAK OUT!! But honestly no need to be condesceding…

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bad.

I’m sorry. I do like to rain on the homer parade, and I seem to have prevented myself from doing so. Then I made my own homer comment (Wade/Roy). It’s been a tough day. Almost quittin’ time though (EST is the best).

WWSBD?

TRADE 4 THE STACHE!

by nightbluefruit on Aug 20, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

:)

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881

by BlazerFan1 on Aug 20, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roy / Redd is reasonable.

However for me it’s a no brainer choosing Roy. Perhaps a Milwaukie fan might think differently.

I agree Roy / Wade is a better (or at least more challenging) comparison. It’s a tough one for me. I’m a huge Roy fan, but I’ve also been a huge Wade fan. In fact prior to drafting Brandon Roy, Dwayne Wade (along with Dwight Howard) was perhaps the player I most wanted to see in a Blazer uniform. If asked this season, I would have leaned towards Brandon, mainly because I had questions about Wade grinding himself down. But he looks healthy again and is back to being the Wade who carried his team to a title. If I had to pick, I think I go with my head and not my heart and select Wade.

Aldridge / Boozer – Carlos is easily the more productive and better player. But I’m sticking with LaMarcus, as I think we haven’t seen the best from him yet.

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by timg56 on Aug 20, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A Milwaukee fan would pick Roy

They hate Redd.

And frankly, so do I after watching more than my fair share of Milwaukee games.

He is Z-Bo with a good rep and no willingness to change. He is a huge ballhog who yells at his teammates for taking his shots. Milwaukee wouldn’t mind being out of his contract.

I can’t stand Michael Redd.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 20, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kobe meets Redd on Team USA: Brother? Have we been separated at birth?

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 21, 2008 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know Milwaukie had a bball team.

Although I suppose they have at least two high school teams. Milwaukee, OTOH, has the Bucks.

by royroty on Aug 20, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess I've been in the NW too long.

I’ve worked in Green Bay and have been to Milwaukee on business. But now I can never remember which one is spelled which way.

"Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you." - Your Buddies

by timg56 on Aug 21, 2008 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, I know you're other post got deleted, but I was trying to say that it WAS written very well

sorry about the typo. It was insightful and interesting. Again, the way that looked was awful, so I hope you come back and look at this.

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by hobobob on Aug 21, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay but you really

have no room to be calling blazerfan out either.

Dwayne Wade or Brandon Roy? I will make the trade for Dwayne Wade every day of the week, and I will make it a hell of a lot faster than I’d take redd over travis, ( but i still would)

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Aug 20, 2008 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You're right.

Yeah, I was going with the whole “is Wade okay” vibe I was feeling at the end of the season, but given the Olympics and Broy’s third knee surgery I was way off base. Wade all the way.

Who’s more comparable to Roy now? Danny Granger?

WWSBD?

TRADE 4 THE STACHE!

by nightbluefruit on Aug 20, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry i meant gay over travis

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Aug 20, 2008 1:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You've gone gay over Travis?

Now that’s taking one’s love of a player to a new height.

Odenator – a fan to the nth degree.

PS – you do realize that you have to stand in line behind ann when vieing for Travis’ affections.

"Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you." - Your Buddies

by timg56 on Aug 20, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey do u guys know if their gonna be showing blazer games on a different provider other than comcast like dish network,or if their still working on a plan ,and wat r the possibilities of this actually happening

by blazerholic5 on Aug 20, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Roy vs. Redd????

that’s nuts. NUTS I tell yea. Roy is much closer to Wade than to Redd (note: I would swap Roy for Wade but would not even consider swapping him for Redd).

I’ll take LA over Boozer but only because he’s 5 years younger. Booz is a lot better than him right now.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Aug 20, 2008 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Boozer is much better offensively

But defensively, I dunno… I think LMA’s a good defender and Boozer is purty weak.

Scoring, rebounding wise, Boozer is very versatile and strong. He’s good. Shouldn’t be on the Olympic team, but good.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 20, 2008 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Finally, where have you been

This post seems MADE for you.

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by hobobob on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Redd's selfish and annoying

He makes his team play poorly. He can shoot, but he has stretches where he can’t hit for his life. During these stretches, he doesn’t defer or try taking it inside. He keeps bricking. There’s no way you see Roy make those kinds of mistakes. While Redd looks faster, I’d bet Roy’s speed wins out. He’s crafty with, doesn’t advertise he’s got it. It’s a subterfuge that works. Redd doesn’t know what that word means.

Aldergidge and Boozer’s a little tougher to decide. Boozer, while somwhat soft, has a better inside game. He’s not quick, but he’s more effective right now. LMA could probably run lateral circles around him, but is softer. I’d say, if you didn’t have Oden, you’d want Boozer because he provides a more traditional and powerful (I am not endorsing Boozer as powerful) inside presence than LMA. But, since we have Oden, LMA’s lateral quickness, ability to run on the break, outside shooting, work ethic and aspirational morality makes him more compatible. I think LMA’s got more potential, but that Boozer is better right now. Because we have Oden, we can take the risk.

A quick note to the other posters. The kiddo said debate. That means you gotta come with reasons. If you’re going to take the time to post a response, how about responding like he asked. It’s only courtesy. Isn’t blazerholic5 pretty young, too? If so, we’re setting a horrendous example of what it means to enter into a debate. And, even if he’s not, I know there’re young kids here. At least let them know the difference between simple one-line opinion pieces. I know the folks here think things through, but you’re not showing it.

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by hobobob on Aug 20, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Also

Good job on not coming up with the same old boring comparisons.

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by hobobob on Aug 20, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

tim56

crap.

/shakes head in un-editable frustration

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Aug 20, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

No Brainer

Aldridge/Roy.

Boozer went to the money and gave up a chance for a championship. That shows you where his priority is at. He also broke his word.

Roy is a leader. Roy on the bucks and suddenly you have a team winning games it shouldn’t and a locker room that starts uniting.

Stats are not everything.

Additionally… Aldridge is going to be an INCREDIBLE player. Wait and watch people. I’m still amazed at the doubt out there that this kid will be the best PF in the league in a few years. Wait and see.

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by ratbastird on Aug 22, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs