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 the recent expulsion of gary  Glitter from vietnam  steming from his child molestation conviction see http://www.comcast.net/articles/music/20080819/People.Gary.Glittter/  got me thinking that maybe the rose garden would be better off removing his tune from its cache of inspiring musical numbers. i feel that we could do without it. i know that everytime  i hear it from now on ,rather than get pumped up ,i`ll be thinking of who`s song it is. like the hertz comercial with OJ simpson, I think it should just go away.

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this would proabably be better for an email to the rose quarter or global spectrum, not a fanpost

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by Charles Barkley McLovin on Aug 19, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree!

We should replace it with a Michael Jackson song, like PYT (Pretty Young Thing)… he he he

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by mark twain on Aug 19, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

For me it depends

Is he getting royalties when the song is played in the arena? If so, yeah, cut it off entirely. But if he’s not—if he’s not making a dime from it—I think it’s possible to take an achievement on its own merits even if the person who created it was awful. We’d still use a public building even if the architect who originally built it was a total creep.

Of course I suppose one could argue that playing the song causes people to buy or download it later, which would amount to generating business for him.

—Dave

by Dave on Aug 19, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

he gets the royalties

for sure.
I had never heard of the guy until now, but I agree with the post.

by Falcao on Aug 19, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't necessarily assume that live performance royalties make it to the artist...

……………………………. In the back of my head I seem to remember that ASCAP stuffs that money in their own pockets.

Bear in mind I hate ASCAP and might be imagining things.

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Aug 19, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got curious and dug out my copy of "This Business of Music," which is the bible of the Industry Slimers...

There is a “Compulsory Public Performance License for Nondramatic Works” that applies to jukeboxes. It doesn’t mention public performance of recordings in stadiums though, as nearly as I can tell from the miserable index. It does seem like something the Harry Fox Agency would charge for though, with the artist getting some significant portion…

"TominHawaii's real name is Hubert and he's a rancher in Burns."

by timbo on Aug 19, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Glitter wrote the song

and/or managed to get ownership of a portion of the publishing, he definitely gets paid. Sometimes the artist (performer) doesn’t. But writers/publishers always get something, and yes—the outfit collecting and distributing the dough is usually the Harry Fox Agency back east. Incidentally, some writers/publishers are with ASCAP, others are with BMI. But you pretty much need to be affiliated with one or the other or you won’t get paid.

But all that is kind of beside the point for me. The bottom line: who wants to listen to that kind of soul-less drek anyway? Give me Aretha Franklin, Sam & Dave, James Brown, Wilson Pickett, etc. If that music can’t get you uplifted & inspired, then you’re dead.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Aug 20, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I mean we do let Kobe Bryant represent us to the rest of the world after all.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

Greg Doden really brought the extra D tonight!

by MGNNoah on Aug 20, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like when we took Hitler's scientists and made transcontinental bombers and went to the moon

Just imagine what we could do with a child molester’s lyrics.

Um, sarcastic, no debating me.

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by hobobob on Aug 20, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Van Gogh

Cut off his ears. I don’t believe in promoting self-mutilation and so I believe we should burn his art.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

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by ratbastird on Aug 19, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

don't agree

First: If someone cuts his ear off he does not harm anyone else but himself, that’s completely different from child molestation.
Second: Van Gogh is dead, he couldn’t care less if we burned his art. This guy earns money everytime his song is played at a game.

by Falcao on Aug 19, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He could be rolling over in his grave...

I’d hate for his shoulders to get raw, his ear probably bugs him enough.

by joelor on Aug 19, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is

there an opposite of rec? because this comment deserves it. IF it was serious. If not – you’re funny.

by begottenson on Aug 19, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The article states he considers moving to Singapore. Bad idea, that state has tough punishments even for much smaller offenses

Maybe NAMBLA could use the song for a public service announcement campaign if it gets banned from sports arenas across the country trying to improve their image. – Hey, I am Gary Glitter, and I have approved this message

By the way, the NFL has already asked its teams to stop using it years ago after he was convicted.

Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."

by Norsktroll on Aug 19, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't like any of the songs that defy location.

Should be, when That Killer Sound Clip rolls out, the visitors KNOW they’re not at home.
But when something like R&Rpt2 starts humping, the opponent should feel right at home.

“Thass rong dood.”

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by QualityPie on Aug 19, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Louie, Louie, perhaps?

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Aug 19, 2008 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ANYTHING with Portland origins.

I mentioned this a few times, but I’d like to see the Blazers tap a local record shop owner or radio DJ
to curate Blazer-game-worthy songs from their collections, songs both known and unknown.

I can think of nothing finer than a Portland-music-only policy for Blazer games.

=(_8c(|)

by QualityPie on Aug 19, 2008 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as a Portland only playlist

There are a few artists that could work
Garden Entertainment- Hip Hop group ‘Oregon Homeboy’ would be pretty good, the music video is horrible, but the song would work great
Sand People- With Scribble Jam and Jump off TV winner Illmaculate
Cool Nutz- can’t think of a song that would work, but good local guy nonetheless
Braille- Hip Hop music is just a great song, and he lives in Salem
LifeSavas- maybe…

Since Seattle no longer has a team:

Blue Scholars- North by Northwest would be sweet especially during the OKC game
Sweatshop Union- see Cool Nutz explanation
Oldominion- same story

Then the list of groups that would just not be good in an NBA environment:
Dandy Warhols
Elliot Smith
The Shins
The Decemerists

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Aug 20, 2008 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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