Junk Drawer 08/14/08
Well, it's two minutes after midnite and you know what that means.
Obviously, the biggest topic at hand is Brandon's knee, and I'm sure there will be some busy BEdging ahead of us tomorrow. In the meantime, sleep well o Blazers fans, or come here for your late-nite chat. We'll be spinning all the hits to take you from midnite to midnite, so fasten your safety belts and ease back in your chairs - we should be hitting some turbulence but the turntables wobble, they don't fall down.
p.s. I know I (12sharks) have written some pretty dumb-butt fanposts lately and I promise I'm not a jerk or trying to gain any enemies. I'm not pleading for understanding or anything, I'm just offering an honest and sincere apology if I've gotten anyone's feathers ruffled. Thanks. I will try to be awesomer in the future (or less unawesome, anyway).
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Ooops
I think I posted one right after yours. I think Dave or someone got it.
Disorder
Ive been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand,
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
These sensations barely interest me for another day,
Ive got the spirit, lose the feeling, take the shock away.
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
by Dheepan on Aug 14, 2008 12:20 AM PDT 0 recs
ps
You shouldn’t be apologizing for stuff you put out on the internet. At least that kind of stuff. You did nothing wrong. It did feel like people tore into you a little bit, but it happens sometimes. Shouldn’t let it discourage you.
Disorder
Ive been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand,
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
These sensations barely interest me for another day,
Ive got the spirit, lose the feeling, take the shock away.
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
by Dheepan on
Aug 14, 2008 12:22 AM PDT
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I'm not discouraged whatsoever..
but the last post I made was just plain bad. I considered taking it down because of that reason, but thought it’d be best to let it stand.
I’m not apologizing for my point of view at all, but if I say or do something out of line in public or amongst friends (and BEdge is kind of sort of like either of those) I make a point to own up to it.
You shouldn’t be apologizing for stuff you put out on the internet.
Honestly, if more people felt accountable for their actions online and fessed up when they messed up, the world would be a better place. But, your opinion’s your opinion, dude.
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 12:29 AM PDT
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Well by that I mean
When you post your ideas in a respectful and calculated manner you shouldn’t apologize for posting it. Because I post in such a spur of the moment manner, sometimes my posts are garbage and other times I feel like they have a pensive quality in their message. The idea behind them though, is always honest, and is trying to be constructive. I feel like you are apologizing because you thought you made a bad (in quality) fanpost or a couple of them. Which doesn’t make too much sense to me. Sure people can disagree with you, but I don’t see why you should apologize for taking the time to write them out. I’m sure some people appreciated them.
Disorder
Ive been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand,
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
These sensations barely interest me for another day,
Ive got the spirit, lose the feeling, take the shock away.
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
by Dheepan on
Aug 14, 2008 12:37 AM PDT
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oh and that first bit
Was trying to say, because I post like this, maybe it’s hard to emphasize with the way you went about constructing your material and thus why you apologized.
Disorder
Ive been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand,
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
These sensations barely interest me for another day,
Ive got the spirit, lose the feeling, take the shock away.
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
by Dheepan on
Aug 14, 2008 12:38 AM PDT
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John Wayne
Said a man should never apoligize,its a sign of weakness but his I served my country by being a movie star and cheating on my wife but to have to go to Vietnam patriot bs sucked.any offended John Wayne fans are welcome to meet me any time behind the barn.I am cool with 12 Sharks and just trying to take some of the heat off of him.
by southern oregon on
Aug 14, 2008 5:11 PM PDT
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well anyway
I kinda tripped out a little, my bad. fortunatly I dont have the stamina to sustain it, and after the last post I mad I left the thread and will not return. I wonder if I have ireperaly changed other peoples view of me, but oh well, what can I do.
I’ll always read your stuff, cause even if I dont agree, it allways has made me think.
"Turns out I'm kind of a jerk."
---ptwnblzr
Email Dave,
--- Mortimer --- for Blazers Edge Ambassador to the SBNations
by ptwnblzr on
Aug 14, 2008 1:30 AM PDT
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By someone
I of course meant our dearest Ben, resident G
Disorder
Ive been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand,
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
These sensations barely interest me for another day,
Ive got the spirit, lose the feeling, take the shock away.
WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.
by Dheepan on
Aug 14, 2008 12:28 AM PDT
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How do you get G
from B-E-N?
Krikey! Kiteboarding is Kewl!
by prezofdeath on
Aug 14, 2008 6:47 PM PDT
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I feal drained
I kant stop thinking about loding all that cohetion that camp was suposed to foster. :-(
"Turns out I'm kind of a jerk."
---ptwnblzr
Email Dave,
--- Mortimer --- for Blazers Edge Ambassador to the SBNations
by ptwnblzr on Aug 14, 2008 1:31 AM PDT 0 recs
loding = losing?
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 1:35 AM PDT
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yeah
"Turns out I'm kind of a jerk."
---ptwnblzr
Email Dave,
--- Mortimer --- for Blazers Edge Ambassador to the SBNations
by ptwnblzr on
Aug 14, 2008 1:50 AM PDT
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nice opening for the juck drawer, i enjoyed it
"Turns out I'm kind of a jerk."
---ptwnblzr
Email Dave,
--- Mortimer --- for Blazers Edge Ambassador to the SBNations
by ptwnblzr on
Aug 14, 2008 1:51 AM PDT
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I like that the Blazers announced the surgery so late
A whole day plus the night to worry about it would be too much.
Now, only people up later know about it and many won’t have seen it until they get the news tomorrow morning that everything is okay.
That’s the way to do it.
If he’s hurt worse I’m gonna kill myself just so I can meet the Basketball Gods and kick them in their stupid nuts.
Lucky for me they have a sense of humor and don’t mind me saying things like that.
Just in case they don’t like it, I remind them I can kick pretty hard, repeatedly. They should know the correct outcome for this situation…
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Aug 14, 2008 1:58 AM PDT 0 recs
I'm dying inside..
I can’t take this news. i’m sorry.
I’m a weak P.O.S.
Please let this all go away….
Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii
by Outlaw is Rejector on Aug 14, 2008 2:14 AM PDT 0 recs
I'll be there for you Outlaw is Rejector
Just come over here and nestle into my wispy chest hair… that’s it…
Try to focus on something in the meantime, take some sleeping pills, Nyquil (not too much of either, don’t die ya silly), wake up and learn what happened. If we all think positive it’ll be okay.
Approach it with the confidence you bring to an Outlaw trade suggestion: ain’t gonna happen. Nuh uh.
Roy, no matter what, will be okay. So will the Blazers.
I promise.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 14, 2008 2:24 AM PDT
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I love you
Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii
by Outlaw is Rejector on
Aug 15, 2008 2:16 AM PDT
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Dang, I was going to post a poll in the junk drawer
Rudy Makes Brandon Vulnerable
Are you ready to trade Brandon?
"I grab every opportunity to tweak Timbo." - annthefan
by tominhawaii on Aug 14, 2008 2:56 AM PDT 0 recs
Next Question
Who will ban their self after this injury?
"I grab every opportunity to tweak Timbo." - annthefan
by tominhawaii on Aug 14, 2008 3:15 AM PDT 0 recs
fatty
"Turns out I'm kind of a jerk."
---ptwnblzr
Email Dave,
--- Mortimer --- for Blazers Edge Ambassador to the SBNations
by ptwnblzr on
Aug 14, 2008 3:25 AM PDT
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I'm going to watch some Team USA later
Maybe I make a little Kobe voodoo doll and put a pin in his knee…
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Aug 14, 2008 3:42 AM PDT 0 recs
Nah. Make a little Brandon voodoo doll and plaster his knee with
a poultice of comfrey, borage and a dab of goldenseal. Change the poultice daily and talk to the doll frequently. That’ll work.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
by annthefan on
Aug 14, 2008 4:15 AM PDT
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Yeah, Brandon is my large voodoo doll
He is taller, more handsome, and most of all plays well with my other stuffed puppets.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on
Aug 14, 2008 4:19 AM PDT
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British site Basketball 24/7 has a quite extensive interview with Joel Freeland
I’ll also post it in the fanshots. Here is the link.
The gist is that he couldn’t play in summer league due to his club, the Blazers still tell him he is a part of their future, and he wants to stay some more in Europe and develop instead of coming over early.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Aug 14, 2008 4:09 AM PDT 0 recs
I commented in your fanpost, but you know no one reads those things
Basically, I was impressed that he knew he wasnt ready for the NBA, is looking to get better and plans on coming over when he and the blazers are ready. No sense of entitlement, which is refreshing to hear.
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan
by GreatOden'sRaven on
Aug 14, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
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Two nice Rudy pics - we will be completely fine with a guy who can shoot and dunk like this


Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on Aug 14, 2008 4:26 AM PDT 0 recs
I like these
Especially the dunking one. He kinda has Travis’ form huh?
If Mike Rice calls Oden "Odom" this season I might have to seriously hurt him
by twiggs on
Aug 14, 2008 7:37 AM PDT
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Hmmmmmmmm....
I’m not convinced he is dunking in that first picture. Escaping from a mouse run amuk? Or somebody has hoisted him up to the rim on their shoulders and is now preparing to hand him the ball…you can almost read his lips, “Yes, from this extreme height the ball does indeed look slightly smaller”. Naturally I’ve translated for your reading pleasure.
The guy in the background is simply shocked to be witnessing the whole thing.
“What!! Where did Rudy go”
“Hey, I’m up here. Observe my elevation.”
“Ha Ha, so you are. Good one.”
by lukeyhere on
Aug 14, 2008 8:42 AM PDT
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I think I see pubes in the second photo
"I grab every opportunity to tweak Timbo." - annthefan
by tominhawaii on
Aug 14, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
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Whatcha doing
Looking that hard, hmm?
Dear God,
It's me, Twiggs.
Please, oh please, let Brandon Roy have a speedy recovery.
Us Blazer fans don't ask for much in this life. All we want is our team to be healthy (and win). You would really be doing a service to us if you had him bounce back in a few weeks (without pushing it). I promise I won't ask for anything ever again (until the regular season anyhow).
Thank you,
Twiggs
by twiggs on
Aug 14, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
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wow
a stupid post dunk pull up and a manu ginobilliesque shot where he is not squared to the rim. I am hoping I never see him do either of these things in the nba.
man I am negative.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on
Aug 14, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
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whatever
It doesnt have to be pretty, if it goes in it goes in. see: reggie miller
by danevan on
Aug 14, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
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reggie miller
squared himself he just had the scissor kick that allowed him to make himself look like he was getting fouled all the time.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on
Aug 14, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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+1111111100000000
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
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by BlazerFan1 on
Aug 14, 2008 2:17 PM PDT
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ANYONE AROUND?
Anyone here watching the USA versus greasy Greece?
Someone need to make a gameday thread?
I can’t do it because not making fanposts is ‘my thing’. Plus I called NOT IT.
I should sleep but I decided I’ll sleep when I’m dead.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Aug 14, 2008 4:57 AM PDT 0 recs
I got up early to watch
and comcast is having technical problems and Im not getting any tv channels… how frustrating.
So I come to see if my internet connection is working and first thing I read is the Brandon injury story. I got a dentist appointment this morning…. this is not looking like the best day ever
"it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." -- Homer
by bow4meow on
Aug 14, 2008 5:00 AM PDT
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When it turns out he's ok...
...the dentist will feel like the best dentist visit ever.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 14, 2008 5:09 AM PDT
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Careful...
He might end up going in for a routine checkup and end up with a root canal. It’s the curse I tell you!!!
by DonkeyShins on
Aug 14, 2008 11:32 AM PDT
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it wasnt that bad
not only did I make it thru the appointment without even needing Nitrous, I heard before I went in from Dave this a.m. on 95.5 that everything went smoothly with Brandon’s surgery.
So that only makes the intolerable heat my only thing to complain about right now.
Speaking of Dave on the radio this morning, he actually made a funny when he said Arvydas was 82 years old when he joined the PTB. Get a chuckle out of anyone else?
"it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." -- Homer
by bow4meow on
Aug 14, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
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when I go to the dentist
I specificaly let them know that my phobia is so intence that nitrice is nessassary. tip – there is a leagal limit and with persistance, you can find it. slow your breathing, no matter how much they tell you to breathe normal, the ideal is to match the pace that the nitrice is being added. once youve maxed out, ask for a little increase, ask the nurce if your a guy, any male if your a grrrl, youll get more sympathy. tell them that you can still feal your face(you kant) and are just a little concerned, practice and persistance will pay HUGE dividends in this regard. and most important, CONTRAL YOUR ROLL!!! Nothing gets you cut off faster then flashing the staff. :-(
calling dentist office…..
"If you have testies, you should not be wearing panties."
--- tominhawaii on Sep 11, 2007 11:24 AM PDT
Email Dave,
--- Mortimer --- for Blazers Edge Ambassador to the SBNations
by ptwnblzr on
Aug 14, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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I'll create one
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on
Aug 14, 2008 5:03 AM PDT
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Done, check the fanposts.
Odenied: Asked whether he noticed Oden favoring his right knee, Frye dismissed it entirely. "He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors."
by Norsktroll on
Aug 14, 2008 5:09 AM PDT
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You are my hero
You make Gandhi look like a pedophile.
Mortimer!
by Mortimer on
Aug 14, 2008 5:11 AM PDT
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Yep. Did anyone hear Doug Collins say that
someone, I forget who ” has not shotten a free throw”? Oh my.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
by annthefan on
Aug 14, 2008 5:08 AM PDT
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Haha
I say stuff like that in real life all the time. My fiancee makes fun of me.
I’ll say “I boughten that the other day, we got milk!”.
And so on. I don’t follow no rules, I speak by the seat of my pants and sometimes out of it.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 14, 2008 5:10 AM PDT
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If I speak by the seat of my pants
My wife makes me go outside or take some Beano™.
Seriously though, the language skills of sportscasters, as with pretty much everyone else in the US, have gone downhill over the last 30 years. Doug Collins is just another in a long line of folks who are mangling the language – but it’s not going to get him banned to ESPN 8 or anything (The Ocho!).
by DonkeyShins on
Aug 14, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
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We could have a whole thread of sports cliches
which activate the gag reflex. That and the grossly imprper usage.
Gavin Dawson repeatedly says “ingratiate” when he means “integrate”. As in “how long will it take Bayless to ingratiate himlef into the lineup”
Arrrgghhh.
That, and the perennial question “What does he bring to the table?”
by raoulduke on
Aug 14, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
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Salad?
The one that twists my knickers is ‘irregardless’.
And ‘flammible’ – it’s ‘inflammible’, people! You know, as in ‘inflame’ – e.g. “Nic Batum inflames Sophia’s heart.”
And ‘momentarily’. Although when Mike Rice says ‘We should be seeing Sergio on the floor momentarily.’ he usually gets it right, but not intentionally.
by DonkeyShins on
Aug 14, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
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Woo Go Paraguay
"I grab every opportunity to tweak Timbo." - annthefan
by tominhawaii on Aug 14, 2008 7:07 AM PDT 0 recs
Did you see the links i left you last night?
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan
by GreatOden'sRaven on
Aug 14, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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Dad gum
Where? Not if it was YouTube.
"I grab every opportunity to tweak Timbo." - annthefan
by tominhawaii on
Aug 14, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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I left you some 'links' last night too..
in a burnin paper bag on your doorstep – did you get those?
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 12:57 PM PDT
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OH yes
Cant wait for the javelin though: http://withleather.uproxx.com/post.phtml?pk=6619
Or a few other events: http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2008/08/13/hot-german-olympic-athletes-grace-the-pages-of-playboy
Enjoy
(calendar link in withleather page is also very excellent)
"Why would we lie to ourselves dude?"
"Be excellent to each other."
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude."
"Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."
The Wisdom of Bill S Preston Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan
by GreatOden'sRaven on
Aug 14, 2008 12:59 PM PDT
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I couldn't vote because I couldn't really understand the options.
by Mike-Fu on Aug 14, 2008 7:29 AM PDT 0 recs
Eh..
it’s not exactly rocket surgery, dude.
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 8:11 AM PDT
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whats rocket surgery
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
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by BlazerFan1 on
Aug 14, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
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"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 8:23 AM PDT
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sorry no fecicious font
i know
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
by BlazerFan1 on
Aug 14, 2008 9:02 AM PDT
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It's what Yao Ming has every season
Zing!
See what I did there? I took one definition and changed it to another…see…I’m clever…
Aw, nevermind.
by DonkeyShins on
Aug 14, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
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Well maybe if you didn;t post things like a stupid g I wouldn't have any
problems.
by Mike-Fu on
Aug 14, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
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“Like a stupid g”.. ?
Do stupid gangsters even POST polls on sports-fan sites? Also, stupid gangster like a stupid Al Capone or a stupid 50Cent?
Regardless, I’m sorry you’re having a tough time deciding on the option you’d like to vote for. Even though many others seem to have done so with effortless panache, I blame myself. I know that the Junk Drawer is a place people go to find some seriousness and integrity in this otherwise fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants world, and you’re absolutely right – I was way too lighthearted in my attempt.
Unfortunately, what’s done is done and, aside from shutting this abomination of a poll down, here’s what I can do for you:
1. Give you a hint: I’ve actually taken the poll and can see the results. If you like, I can let you know which one’s the most popular and you can cast your vote with confidence knowing that, even if you don’t understand this crazy street talk, you’ll at least have safety in numbers (double hint: it’s the first one).
2. Make you your own answer: I can edit the poll and add another option to select of your very own creation. This way, you can click the circle with certainty, knowing that, yes, this time you’re really making a statement you can comprehend and believe in. I promise – whatever you want me to type in there, I’ll do it (site rules abiding) and you can cast your singular vote on this very serious matter of what one of Brandon Roys body parts says as soon as I update it.
C. Quit whining: Take a chill pill and let it be.
So, make your choice, hombre – the world is dying to know what you think on this talking knee matter!
p.s. Thanks for the constistently positive and thought-provoking comments you’ve been sending in my direction of late. It’s like having my own personal PippenAintEasy. Seriously, though, what’s the deal? Did I spill a drink on you or something?
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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Your post needs to be in the urban section at Walmart
You’re too “in our face” with your realness of the streets, 12sharks (which I assume is some reference to a street gang that sells drugs).
I think 12sharks has consistently set the record for inadvertantly pissing people off here at Blazers Edge! :)
What is it with people ragging on the Big 12? I don’t get what buttons he pushes that gets some gizzards engorged.
Oh well, 12sharks seems to handle it ok. I’d be always “MAN WHAT DID I DO?!” because I’m a wimp who needs constant reaffirmation.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Aug 14, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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They hate me because I’m beautiful.
I’d like to dedicate this YouTube link to God, my Fams, Big Tiny, Lil’ Ray Ray, Jesus, So-So Slim, Guttah Dan, my moms, grillz, God, the block and beyond.
And especially all the haters – your doubts made me stronger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khmqDEz6TRk
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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Engorged!
I don’t know if you saw it, but I did an anagram check earlier on the words “Greg Oden” and they can be rearranged to spell just that word. Green God and Deer Gong, as well.
"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan
by 12sharks on
Aug 14, 2008 5:47 PM PDT
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I love you 12sharks
I was just piling on when I said your poll sucked because I like to tell guys that their “pole sucks.” I know it doesn’t make sense but it is funny to me.
"I grab every opportunity to tweak Timbo." - annthefan
by tominhawaii on
Aug 14, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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I laughed
Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.
-Warren Bennis USC Professor
That was a very hard winter,
and it was just like one long night,
with me lying awake, waiting and waiting and waiting
for daybreak.
- Black Elk
1881
by BlazerFan1 on
Aug 14, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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I asked if we could stop the use of that word
if it werent for fear of getting forever banned i’d retaliate to that usage with a comeback that would even make the censor blush
"it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." -- Homer


