Dave already took mine, with the image of magic’s cowardly fling of the ball backwards after TP missed the jumper on the 2-Out play in 1991’s game 6. I was 12, and I cried. Hard.

There are other sort of minor things, like Brian Shaw, who did JACK SQUAT his entire career and then decided to start hitting 3’s in game 7 in 2000. I hate that guy. And Derek Fisher. And Kurt Rambis’ stupid glasses. And the fact that their blog is called Forum Blue and Gold. Blue??? Seriously??? And how everyone claimed that Pau Gasol, who was softer than a Downy-Snuggle-Bounce threesome in Memphis, was suddenly the missing piece to the puzzle when he got traded there. Lamar Odom’s sins are too numerous to list, not to mention the exploits of this years’ MVP.

“In other news today, Kobe Bryant retained his free agent wife with the $4 million mid-level exception.”

But the thing that really gets me is the sense of entitlement. “We’re the l*kers,” they (or maybe more accurately, their fans) say, “so we deserve the preferential treatment we get.” The way that Big Chief Hippie can basically tell the refs how to call a game through the media, and watch them fall for his every stupid trick. And did you know that Andrew Bynum became a HOF center after a half-season of averaging 13 and 10?

So thank you, Mr. Alexie, for giving us another reason to express our deep-seated feelings towards those massive tools. And when was the last time anyone cared about Dyan Cannon, anyway?

I disliked it when Kobe alley-ooped to Shaq to put them up 6 and complete the choke on June 4th, 2000. I know the date by heart. Kind of sad. I wanted to put an axe through my TV. I have felt that way only one other time, that being the Jordan “shrug” game (I was only 8 then so I wasn’t actually thinking about axes- I wasn’t a violent kid).

I also disliked it when we lost to the Lakers a whole bunch of other times. I hated Rick Fox and Robert Horry more than Shaq and Kobe. The one Laker I grudgingly have a huge amount of respect for is Derek Fisher. Class act and one of the best role players ever (though Horry is probobly THE best ever).

LA the city is not a place I particularly enjoy. Not totally horrible, but kind of stinky. I now live in the Bay Area and had no problem transitioning into the Dodger and Angel hatred that people here have.

I hope we beat the Lakers many times in the future.

game seven of the 2000 WCFs as ‘the game we don’t talk about.’ i don’t have to rehash details in this company, but that alley-oop ripped my soul out. it was one of the two times as a kid i cried for the blazers (the other was the memorial day miracle.. sean elliot levitating above the sideline haunts my dreams). wide-eyed shaq lumbering back down the court was devastating. i was twelve, and it still hurts.

it’ll probably hurt less when oden is abusing bynum, lamarcus is crossing up big red’s son, martell is the player hitting back-breaking threes and brandon is basking in the national television audience spotlight.

When ESPN did that stupid “Titletown” thing, the LA one started with the worst highlight of all time. You know the one I’m talking about. The Big Babybottle running down the court on 6/4/2000 – a day that shall live in infamy.

Geez, I feel like I’m trying to digest a shoe just typing this up. I’ll give three more words, and that’s it:

RICK
FREAKING
FOX

who hates the lakers more, your average blazers fan or your average clippers fan (insert obvious joke about how the clippers have no fans.)?

I definitely hate Kobe/Shaq era Lakers but I dont get to riled up about this bunch. No one really gets my blood boiling like Rick Fox used to. I think the reasons are obvious. He is better looking than me. He has been with Vanessa Williams. He got paid to play basketball. He was a notorious cheap shot artist.

Maybe I am getting old but I just cant bring myself to hate on them that much. I try to save all of my derision for “kids today”

within context of that now Wollyhooded franchise. But there were good men to praise on past Laker teams. I appreciate having seen Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodrich … honorable players in their era.

I wouldn’t want fans elsewhere to judge the Portland team by some its past players.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080624123901AAVH23D

This Lakers’ current group too shall pass.

Flakers. I think it’s part of my genetic code. I hate their smugness and arrogance. I hate the sycophantic camera shots of the “celebrities”. I hate Phil Jackson’s face. I hate their obvious sense of entitlement. One good thing is that I no longer have to watch as Rick Fox slithers up and down the court in all his oozing, rancid, dripping oiliness. I can’t point to any one incident that fueled my hatred, I just know it exists and has for as long as I can remember.

Just some thoughts I jotted down on my computer one day. May give you an interesting read for these true dog days of summer…

I hate the lakers, spurs, and jazz equally. Mostly i can’t stand Blowbe, always being called “a warrior,” for playing through some imaginary injury. Can’t stand the spurs. It turns out people from Argentina are intent on turning basketball into something effeminately akin to soccer. And what the heck is up with Duncan (and the rest of the spurs for that matter) whining after every darn call. If you’re so freaking good, you wouldn’t need to use the crutch that is called a “foul shot.” And the Jazz. Oh, the Jazz. Does everyone have amnesia, or Alzheimer’s? I don’t see anyone mention (while discussing officiating and how it oft times can be horrible) that one time (of many) when Brian Grant got called for fouling Karl Malone’s elbow with Brian’s face, IN THE PLAYOFFS, no less. I guess we can take solace in that we won anyway. But there is no excuse for that, refs and Stern.
But one more thing that bothers me, is a lot of Blazer fans. It seems that many have bad selective memory loss. Someone coins the genious term “Jailblazers,” and what do you know, who’s using that term the most: Fans who were cheering at “Jailblazer’s” games just as loud as I was. That team in 2000 was good. Reeeeeal good. And we loved them. We loved them enough to sell out the rose garden every game that season. I think its a failure of loyalty to say that team gave anything but their best. They choked. It happens. I think a lot of our fans have let the small town media in Portland tell us what’s goin on and what to think about it. What else iare Canzano and Quick going to write about when the Blazers are their main/only source of “journalism.” I don’t blame Sheed one bit for those times journalists got in his face and he gave them the succinct “it was a good game both teams played hard” speech. What else did they want him to say? “We lost because we scored less points” or, “next time if we score more points we’ll win?” It strikes me as ironic that the best “sports journalism” seems to come from quality blogs like this one. Just sayin’. Sorry if it was annoying.

And yes, I believe the true fire of my hatred had to be kindled by Magic Johnson rolling the ball down to the other side of the court. AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH! That and Rick Fox in general.

compile a TominHawaii 365-day quote calendar…

I want one….

76-77 to be exact. Lkers had the best record in West and were supposed to mop up on the Blazers. Kareem would show Walton how to play the game. Eh. The sweep and the slam by Walton over Kareem gave me one of the best memories of my childhood. Too bad that was one of the only good ones. I remember the Blazer team that started 19-1 and had a front page spread on the National (anyone remember that daily sports newspaper? Loved it!) Cruise to the best record only to get beaten by the Lkers in the Western Conference finals. ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.

I can’t say anymore. I have to go take a cold shower to cool down.

” I was 12, and I cried. Hard.” How old are you now?

I hate them for:

1. Expecting to be good every year no matter what talent they have on their team. I call this ‘Raider syndrome’, and those suffering need help to overcome their disease. This is not the same as hoping, or wearing rose colored glasses,. This is a deep rooted expectation that your team should win every game, and that other teams players and fans should be happy to hand over their victory to you. You are, after all, the Lessers.

2. Having an entire media system designed around hoping for, and convincing others, that they are good.

3. NEVER, EVER LOSING to the Blazers in the 80’s. This is not the same as hating them for being good, many good teams lost to the Blazers in the 80’s. The Rockets, Celtics, and the Jazz all lost to the Blazers in the 80’s. But the Loathers almost never did.

4. Having a bunch of fans that show up to games at opposing teams stadiums being totally disrespectful to local fans, but then leaving with 5 minutes left when it looks like they are going to lose. Way to stick it out, guys.

5. NEVER, EVER losing to the Blazers in the 80’s. Did I mention this before? It bears repeating.

A List of things I hate (L@ker-wise).

Kareem and Worthy’s Goggles (not cool like Buck’s)
Phyliss’s giant chair
Riley’s hair
“Three-peat” and subsequent copyright lawsuit
Eagle CO
Magic’s All-Star MVP
Jack Nicholson (except the “You can’t handle the truth!!!” scene in A Few Good Men)
FlowBee (He sucks while he cuts)
Laker Fans (They just suck and don’t cut)
Dianne Cannon’s Brownies (Anyone else suspect that these are “special” brownies)
Shaq’s forearm and other body parts as well
No Lakes in LA
Mrs FlowBee’s giant ring
The #24

I could go on…but I won’t.

my intense dislike for the Lkers comes from growing up in Oregon (now that I live in the Bay Area I see that the OR-CA rivalry is completely one-sided) and from first watching basketball during the Showtime era. Don’t get me wrong. Magic Johnson was one of the best dudes to ever play the game, but he did it with that stupid smile on his face. Portland’s heyday overlaps with LA’s “dynasty” so they kept us out of the title game and we did the same.

Their fans are pretty obnoxious as well because they assume that LA will always put a superior team on the floor.

Yeah, that game in 2000 was rough, but I disliked the Lkers long before then.

I agree with shenanigans. The media is on their side. But it doesn’t stop there. The league is on their side helping with player acquisitions, game scheduling, rule changes, officiating, and more, because it is good for basketball. Showcasing some and ignoring other teams. On the positive side, this is why I love the present day Blazers. They have been able to impose a Cinderella story line to counteract this showcasing. We are young. We are beautiful. We are filled with goodness. Fans do not want us to lose. I saw this in the officiating last year. To include a small disclaimer I would like to quote the theme song from Monk. “I could be wrong now. But I don’t think so!”

Imagine such a contest: Thirty Fans get chances to travel on team planes, sit by players or coaches, and see games. You are lucky enough to win, although, alas, your prize is a “trip” on the Lakers’ plane. Would you take the Lakers’ trip, or would you be “indifferent” and give away the opportunity? Which coach/player would you ask to sit by? (My first choice, if not Portland’s plane, would be to ride along side Rick Adelman on a trip from Houston to Portland.)

Would you say the linked Wiesel quote fits your attitude toward the Lakers?
http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_hatred.html

...I’m going over to Sophia’s place…

But California dreamin’ for me was doomed soon after.

I give Hollywood all the credit for my dislike. Actors and Hollywood became way too relevant, their presence WAAAAYYYY to important as a tool for shaping our social identity. LA became for me, all the reasons to think this was NOT the greatest country. Shallow, self absored mirror gazers immediately comes to mind.

Now I also hate Yankee fan, but I respect them. Yankee fan is a true fan. Hell, even the stars who show up in NY seem like real people. Respect the Laker fan? Never ever gonna happen. Because Laker fan IS the actors and actresses who show up courtside. Hey real Laker fan, sorry but your image is shoved to the back of the bus, you will never be the ones we recognize or salute.

I hate the Lakers cause of the phony phakers who gather round the court (of course Jack Nicholson is excluded), the cameras seem to be more interested in you than the game. How many have been hypnotized by the glitter. We have all witnessed player after player succumb to the allure of cheap shiny “tinsel”. Wilt, Kareem, Shaq…..none could resist the sirens calling.

The LA Laker team carries with them all of the Hollywood baggage. Which I for the most part, dislike and disapprove of. Nothing about either one seems real or relevant to most of our lives and the real world we live in. LA simply doesn’t measure up as a real sports town.

I dont hate the lakers. In fact I like watching the lakers when they are executing the triangle. It is beautiful to watch.

I do hold Lakers fans in general in low esteem. When I I have the displeasure of meeting a Lakers fan I ask them why they are lakers fans and it usually centers around Kobe and his “greatness” and when I follow up with something about what part of Kobe’s game they like I usually get something about his dunks or other such nonsense or how no team can stop him. Then I just want to tell them that this is all flash and “real” fans know that going 5 on 1 is neither fun to watch or good basketball.

Also they are pretty spoiled by their success. Blazers fans use to be like this, but then came the early and mid 00s. For those of us who were still fans at the time we know the difference between good and bad basketball as we have now seen both ends of the spectrum.

My boss is a Lakers fan, and still talks about the jailblazers. This is weak.

For you beginners, here’s some ammo:

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But then these make me feel better

First, I want to thank Dave for posting this entry.. It helps me come to terms with my “hate” of the Lakers (yes, I’m excluding the asterisk). I’m all about love today, homies (and home-ettes). I’m reserving the right to return to my hatin’ ways tomorrow.

The exact moment I began to hate the Lakers is lost to the fog of basketball memories. I think it was back in the early 90s, when I began to resent (nay, feel jealous of), the media’s obsession with Showtime ,even though I knew the Blazers were the superior team.

The media obsession with the Lakers is probably part of the foundation of my hatred. The stroking of egos, the praising of the blue and gold. The preferential treatment by the referrees.

Then came the repeated ousting of the Blazers by the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs. It became more personal. Year after year, we were the ousted by LA. Heartbreak after heartbreak.
Then came the 2000 WCF. That cemented my hatred. Granted, we were the ones who blew the lead, but the refs certainly helped. I remember the broadcast, it was as if the announcers WANTED the Lakers to come back, to beat the Trailblazers to assume their God-granted position in the Finals.

In the last game of the season, 2004, the first year we missed the playoffs in 20 something, I was on-hand to witness Kobe Bryant add insult to injury (we’d already been eliminated from playoff contention) by draining clutch threes in multiple OTs to win the game..sending us off into the summer with our tails between our legs

I HATED every single Laker bandwagoner in the Rose Garden that night, and their arrogant mocking chants. Which brings me to another reason:

Arrogant, mocking, bandwagon Laker fans: I was first introduced to them on the Oregonlive message boards. Popping in to mock, insult and troll the board..and raising my blood pressure as well. Interestingly, their bravado leaves them and they always fail to show after every win the Blazers have, including the impressive home winning record against the Lakers.

Thankfully, there is Forum Blue and Gold, because it’s one of the few Laker boards that truly seem to understand basketball, and who aren’t too arrogant (except for a few of their posters) or condescending in their comments.

Finally, Phil Jackson. His condescending attitude epitomizes what I think of the Lakers, and many of their fans. My sister used to work with one of Phil’s nieces. She told me that his niece said many in their family CAN’T STAND him because of his attitude.

Anyway, I still hate the Fake Show..but my hate is a mixture of jealousy (of the media attention/success/treatment by the refs), history, and SOME fans of theirs.

How much do you hate them? Not really, Why do you hate them. My “why” reasons parallel many already posted. Simply for me, 1991 WCF hurts the most because I really felt and still feel we were the best team in the N.B.A. that season. We got caught in Magic and Worthys final bid and I think it cost our fantastic team of Drexler, Porter, Kersey, Buck and Duck their best shot at a championship. L-kers had just enough in the tank to derail us and go be the first victims of a rising juggernaut in The Chicago Bulls. I still think we delay the accension of The Bulls if we make it to the finals because we would of had homecourt. 1991 was that teams year and it got hijacked by an aging L-kers. Still hurts.

As far as how much do I hate them? They are so easy lately to hate. They make themselves so simple to hate. Having Pau Gasol gift wrapped and handed to them was only the latest incident. Without throwing a lot of mud, let’s just say Kobe is an easy personality to dislike. Add to it all the usual trimmings of L-kerdom and as has been as long as I can remember The Blazer vs. L-ker games become the games I most want us to win. There’s some type of dark connection between these two franchises, always thorns in each others side. I guess it boils down to this, if you are a true Blazer fan with any knowledge of the history of The Blazers and L-kers why and how much you hate The L-kers becomes almost inmatterial. You have to blow up the Deathstar if you get the chance. A dream of mine would be for this next great Blazer team to exorcize some of these L-ker demons of the past. It won’t be easy, but the battles are going to be fun.

Wow, what a way to end that post. I love it. I have this co-worker that loves to tell everybody how the fakers have lost more championships than any other team has played in except the Celtics. The Blazers are his second favorite team (is there a blazer fan in the world that can say that about the Fakers??) they (fakers fans) do not hate us yet. But the thought of them one day hating us as much as we have hated them all these years gives me goosebumps. I cant wait for our first playoff showdown with LA. I guess part of the reason why I hate them is because it is mostly a one-sided rivalry at at this point. When Oden is dominating Bynum and LMA is making Pau look like the old, slow, soft, whiner that he is, they will finally have reason to hate us. There are kids all over LA right now who are going to have their hopes dashed year after year by the Blazers and maybe, just maybe the rivalry will be flipped by the next generation. Maybe in 15 years the next generation of Blazers fans wont have the reasons to hate LA the way we do. Maybe chants of “BEAT THE BLAZERS” will ring out in arenas all across the country instead of beat LA. Young LA fans will be so disgusted with us they wont utter OUR name. It is the disappointment and heartbreak the leads to this hatred and here’s hoping my kids (and baby Point Guard) wont have anybody to hate.

Peace.

I used to have all kinds of teams I hated and man the Dallas Cowboys were number one but then one day I took all my hate for all other sports teams and focused it all on the L@kers. I have no one set reason really. Rick Foxes hair plugs and the disapointment in Vanessa Williams face from never being satifisfied sexually; Kobe not being able to hide the fact that he has not a single redeeming quality; Shaq-Shaq rules-horrid movies-David Stern and Shaq’s shaky romantic relastionship; the fact that only one of those three championships won by the ‘threepeaters’ is legit because the league and the refs were in cohoots; Pippon throwing game three of our first round match up. Oh I could go on. I hate em, and it does my heart good too see that so many of you feel the same way.

..Mike Rice mentioned the l@kers were something like 6-19 in the regular season in the rose garden since its construction. I think he also said we’re the only team phil jackson has a losing coaching record against. Yet still they come in here with Odom throwing cheap shots and trying to start garbage. And most of all their smug, arrogant looks and sense of entitlement.

Oh and:

The fact that their fans have the gall to whine about kobe not getting enough calls (!!!)
Rick Fox
Kobe
Odom
Kobe
Phil jackson blaming losing on the rain. (that’s sooooo USC football’s excuse)
Kobe faking an injury every single time his team is behind with five to eight minutes to go in the fourth in a nationally televised game.
The quality (lack thereof) of officiating in L.A.
Kobe

Every time they come to the Rose Quarter and we beat their sorry butts. Other than that, it is so bad that I ended up rooting for Kevin Garnett and the Celtics…that’s bad.

they are always able to acquire the super stars:
Wilt
West
Baylor
Kareem
Magic
Shaq
Kobe

No wonder they win so much. Not fair I tell ya.

The Derek Fisher Flopping,
the Shaq and Kobe star calls,
the Shaq non calls,
the NBA giving L.A. the benefit of the doubt because it’s good for the bottom line.
The 2000 WCF,
The kings series,
the UGLY colors,
the celebs in the stands that don’t even like basketball,
Phil Jackson and his stupid loud whistle,
The media love talking about how what is good for the L*kers, KNicks, Celtics is “good for the league.” Dear God, I hate that the most.

And yet it doesnt feel like its strong enough when talking about the L@kers.

I was born in ‘78 here in Portland and didnt really start getting into the Blazers till I was about 11. Just in time for the Drexler days to really kick in.

Now I was home schooled till ‘90 and when I started going to public school there were a lot of other Blazer fans all over. And why shouldnt it be that way in a rural school with a bunch of kids who were born in and grew up in the rural Portland Metro area? It was like a brotherhood of fans.

Unfortunately durring the late 80’s and early 90’s (and still continues to today) there were a lot of… how should I say this… California Immigrants moving into the area. Many of which were from the L.A. area. And with this migration came a lot of the L@ker fans.

For those of us on the message board who didnt grow up durring this time in Portland history you really missed out on a lot of general L.A. hate from the Portland residents. A lot of people from California in general were moving up here to get out of the money pits they had in California and start life up here. So a lot of real estate were going to Californian developers who were starting to change the Portland area landscape from forrests and nature into strip malls and mini mansions. It got to a point where we made so much fun of L.A. people that I remember talking to people at my church who came from L.A. and were embarassed to say so because of the stigma we put on them, and they knew it. Set, point, match. Win for Portland, right?

Wrong. You have to love kids, and this is where my hate stems from. With all the adults harboring the embarassment of moving from L.A. into our green heavenly landscapes, their children, the spawns who started to fill our schools with gold Magic jerseys, didnt harbor any embarassment. Their team was superior. And they let everyone know it. Those of us who grew up supporting our team with no resistance were now faced with smug city kids who always knew “better”. They came from “better” houses, “better” schools, “better” cities, “better” everything. No matter what you said, it was inferior. It was as if the Borg from Star Trek originated from L.A. and started to ascimilate my town. I couldnt have that. But what can you do? Only thing you can do, keep the hate alive.

To make it worse. The TV network felt there was a higher demand for Faker games in the NW then Blazer games. So we were always stuck on the weekends with L@ker games if we wanted to watch any basketball. The local TV scene didnt help with the “Blazer Cable” monopoly they had. Most of those years I was in my room with my legos listening to Mr Schonely announcing the games on 1190KEX. I think it was him and The Snapper in those days. I remember the times the two of them would rip on L.A. when they were in town or we were down there. They really helped to spur on the hate a lot. Anyone remember the “Beat L.A.” song? That was played all the time on the radio when we were playing them. I even made my own “Beat LA” signs to put up in our car durring the playoffs.

Then there were the actual games. How many times did we end up loosing in the last 24 seconds or so? We always seemed to be neck and neck in all of our games. And then in the last part of the game, “The Showtime” would start and the TV network would end up with about 3-4 great news worthy plays from the L@kers while we ended up loosing. I hated those games. Nail biters down to the end. My dad used to say “Oh we are playing the L@kers? It will only be worth watching the last 5 minutes. They will be close the entire game.” It was true.

Oh the rivalry. Not just on the court, but in our hearts and homes as well. Thats why I cant stand the L*kers. Rivalries are great for sports.

So to recap:
L.A. people moving in to my beautiful home and building “mini Cali” all over the place.
L.A. kids being stuck up snot nosed brats who rooted for the “better” team.
Network TV with what seemed to be all L@ker games, all the time.
Blazer Cable monopoly.
The Blazers almost always loosing in the final seconds of L.A. games.
I love a good rivalry.

There you have it.

Okay, I hate the Lakers.
I really hate them… but I have to admit a lot of that comes from ring envy. Sure, they get more calls than us and have the ability to draw in higher profile players, but that is just something that I have come to accept and even revel in as a Blazer fan. We will always be David to their Goliath. It makes those victories (past and future) seem so much sweeter.
Players like Wilt, West, Kareem, Magic, and even Shaq will always have my respect as a basketball fan. Those guys are to basketball what Ruth, Gehrig, and DiMaggio are to baseball. Sure there have been other greats of the game, but the Lakers are the Yankees of basketball. You can hate the current team but you can’t seriously hate the great ones.
I admit that they beaten us in the past and they have my respect for that.
No, the reason I hate the Lakers and have fiercely hated them for the past 10 years stems entirely from two men. Kobe and Phil. It sickens me that Phil Jackson is considered and will probably be remembered as one of the greatest coaches ever. That is like saying that Tiger Woods’ caddy is the best golf coach ever.
As far as Kobe goes, I hate his attitude. I hate him because he is the most talented player on the planet and perhaps the most talented ever to play the game, but he will never play basketball the way it should be played. Basketball is a team game, and the great players have always understood this. Kobe is not a team player. I hate what he represents and I hate Laker fans because they love him for it.

Those teams in the late 90s and early 00s were worth every bit of hatred delivered their way. They were a mix between every grade school bully you’ve ever known and the Decepticons, with Shaq as their Megatron/early bloomer with parents going through a nasty divorce. It was the goons on that team too. Rick Fox is the definition of a player who looks better due to teammates and spouse. Horry’s crap is legendary. Derek Fisher, is still the SOB he was then, recently using HIS DAUGHTER’S CANCER as an excuse to move out of Utah. There’s a special place in Hell for people like that.

Still, I don’t mind Kobe these days, as he’s shown nothing but respect for the Blazers, and up until his departure, Ronny Turiaf gave me a reason to cheer for a player on the team. The only player on that team that wasn’t from the glory days of Laker hate that’s worth total disdain is Odom.

This sounds like Yankees/Red Sox rivalry. Ouch! I heard you all hate the L@kers, but wow. I have learned a big lesson. Cheer louldly and proudly against the L@kers especially when they play they Blazers. So I can safely say a few here were happy with Celtics winning this season over the L@kers? Thanks for the lesson about how much the L@kers are hated. When the two teams play there in Portland are tickets the toughest in town?

.................... and this site sucks because I can’t spell out your phoney BS.

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I really cant say that i hate them..I respect the hell out of them..cmon yall its not a rivalry..they kick are arses except for when we got em in ‘77 on the way to the real prize..we get a few non discript feel good wins every now and then but ..they dont mean anyhting the lakers kill us when it counts..and that demands repect… all I hear is how were going to tear the league up for the next decade..wake up people the bruised and urine colored uniforms arent going any where any time soon..we hate them because we cant beat them..enuf said

I hate the L@kers because:

• Almost every other team, even the Boston Celtics, has suffered through rebuilding years. Not the L@kers. They are always in the playoffs, like a heat rash on a hot day. They’ve only missed the playoffs five times in their entire existence! They’re like the stuck-up prom queen who never grows up or looks a year older. They desperately need to be humbled by stumbling through a decade in the lottery, yet they keep landing on their feet.

• Los Angeles is the second-biggest market, has a warm, sunny climate and lots of stars, and gets more national attention than any other city in the country with the possible exception of New York. Because of that, top players like Shaq and Kobe want to play in LA. They wish for it, plot for it, lobby for it, even sacrifice for it, and somehow make it happen. It’s an unfair advantage, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.

• They and the Celtics have won more than half of the championships since the league was created. If you count from 1971, when the Blazers joined the NBA, The L@kers have won nine, way more than any other team. According to Wikipedia, they have the most wins, the highest winning percentage, and the most finals appearances. They’re the Top Dogs, and they know it. Oh yeah: they’re the early favorite to win the title next season.

• It’s not just that the L@kers have beaten the Blazers in big games, it’s the way they did it, by somehow putting a hex on us and making us beat ourselves. In the 1991 WCF, when the Blazers were putting the game away, and they had that four-on-none break, and Uncle Cliffy (or was it Clyde?) passed the ball when he should have dunked, and they turned the ball, and the momentum of the series, over. Coming to Portland with an 11-game winning streak like ours and beating us. Or in 2000, when they somehow made the Blazers’ collars shrink so tight in the fourth quarter.

• Game 6 of the 2002 WCF, when the NBA opened its soiled trenchcoat and exposed its nasty little jones for the L@kers for the whole world to see. I will always remember the Kings fondly for picking-up our fallen sword and going to war against the L@kers during those years, and Doug Christie, for punching Rick Fox in the face.

• Bandwagoner L@ker fans. If the L@kers ever become a regular guest at the NBA lottery buffet, Staples will be a ghost arena at L@ker games. I predict that when the Blazers begin winning titles, they will acquire more fans from SoCal than there are in the entire Northwest.

• The smog in L.A. I was there for a few days, in April of 1983, when a wettish spring was keeping the air clean. It looked like a paradise. Every other time I’ve been there, it looks like a campfire in a broom closet. Can’t they nuke a few mountains and let that gunk drift into Phoenix?

• If concrete were a disease, this is what it would look like:

but the Losers when he was drafted and he was allowed to get away with it.

Ive seen a couple PTB vs LA games in my circular orbit around the sun and I can honestly say no other team gets my ire up like LA. I could rant on and on about what Ive seen them get away with but nothing has bothered me more then one particular incident that in a way for me summarizes what is, was and always will be the unwarranted favoritism bestowed on the NBA’s version of Ghomorrah.

When Sabonis came over we had a televised game in LA against the then led Shaq team. I’d have to pull the tape from my library to find the timeand quarter, but essentially what happened is Shaq, unnacustomed to not being able to plow through anybody and dunk over wasnt able to do so easily against Sabas. Shaq was getting frustrated because he couldnt just back Sabonis over, and I’d guess because Arvydas was showing his own skills at the other end, ... so on this possession Shaq got the ball low, tried to Bull in a China Shop thru Sabonis, which he couldnt do, so instead he went straight up. Sabonis played him striaght up , and Shaq, ala Karl Malone (another cheap shot artist) thew the ball up wildly at the rim, with no intent on scoring, but really to drop an elbow of the Playboy Buddy Rose variety on Sabonis’ dome. As Sabas reeled back in pain from a deliberate elbow to his cranium, predictabably and bewilderingly, yet not entirely surprisingly the ref’s blew the whistle on Sabonis. I still remember him holding outhis arms with the “how do you call this game over here” look on his face. not sure if at any other time a punk that bitch slap would have been appropriate.

Love Shaq? He was only an allowance by the NBA aka David Stern to generate revenue because he was a true FAKER, and not necesseraly a skilled basketball player. David Stern always has been Tim Donaughy in disguise living in LA.

The fact that Kobe is on the Olympic team. I guess the USA Olympic Committee hasnt heard of the talent vs character issue we resolved. Ive been thinking of jamming Kobe because he hasnt shown up in the pre Olympic qualifying going on. The just as I think I better not post that because someone might get upset by the suggestion, I see Kobe on a cripple 360 dunk to “ooooooohhhh” the crowd. Lay the ball in Kobe, its about bringing respectability back where it belongs not showcasing yourself against inferior competition (barely with guys like you)

Because ladies and gentlemen, I have in this post a link to the greatest moment in L*ker history.

Click the link, watch the video and bask in its glory!

I stopped reading Dave’s post once he started talking about shaq and his chicken wing, it just makes me so angry thinking about the LA “dynasty” and I am quite sure its not healthy. However, at this point, I just need to vent a little, but there is no way I am reading all of the comments above mine, so sorry if I copied anyone. I am angry enough already without being reminded of all the other reasons I should hate the LA Muckrakers. Shaq would not have been half the player he was if he wasn’t able to commit offensive fouls 500 times a game, and get about 15 seconds in the key with no whistle. Look what ya gone and did Dave, now I am all upset and will probably go take it out on my girlfriends poor little dog by screaming jibberish at it incessantly. Stupid Shaq and his stupid rings, and don’t even get me started on Phil Jackson….

Love the Hate.

My Hate for the kers burns so white hot, I have invested in Dr Scolls moleskin and made a small fortune off of my own constant blistering.

However, it pleases my Hate (it feels, breathes, eats, speaks – never sleeps) that it has a new villain to loathe even more than the *kers, the Oklahoma * *!

While my hate enjoyes the competition fueled rivalry with Los A*, it is much healthier and focused when a man like C Bennet comes along and feeds it a rotting fish in the form of villanous deception and lying to the whole country about his plans for the Sonics (who my hate had a special place for, anyway).

Yes 2008 marks a milestone for my Hate, a Bar Mitzvah, if you will (my Hate converted), and the *kers can breathe a sigh of relief that my Hate has matured and now faces south and east, on the OKC Whatevers, and will forever.

In a perfect world, Bennet would buy the Lakers and move them to OKC, but this would confuse and anger my hate. Maybe if Buss and Bennet could merge them…

... learn the words to Shaq’s instant classic, “Kobe, tell me how my arse tastes”, to bring it out at potlucks, weddings and Trailblazer championship parties for years to come. Could anyone on this board vocally train them in the style of a barber shop quartet?

Do we really want our guys getting distracted that way, nonetheless stooping to shaq’s level?

What has separated the new PTB from the rest of the league is we’ve figured out character matters. By simply repeating what is not only bad taste but baffling judgement.
I guess the barbershop quartet idea is intriguing, but Id rather here the “I think that Im in Love” song quartered then feed either shaq or that other guy any attention, and since obviously they consume negative attention as much as they do international fans cheers, why feed it to em.

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door At the
door is a man
At the door is
At the door ah already screwed it up but take a little time to run that diddy thru.

I see a whole lotta blank.

I see the title “How Much Do You Hate ‘Em?”, a large space, the footer, and then lots and lots of scrolling blankness.

This must be about the L@kers. I should note here that I’m so far gone in my hatred of that team that I’m unable to read data pertaining to them. I hope that’s how the other 200 posters felt as well.

if they were L fans..

then again, it would mean i was a terrible father, so i would have to confine myself to life as a hobo on the mean streets of Santa Monica

http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2004/Jul/19/the_st_james_version.wow

I have just two set in stone rules in my house for my children.

First and foremost: You are not allowed to be a Flakers fan. If you must root for someone other than the Blazers, it will not be the Flakers.

Second: You are not allowed to be a Raiders fan. I’m fine with every other team (rather not the cowboys either), but not the Raiders. They have the most ignorant and uninformed fan base in all organized sports.