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Nate Gate

Apparently the Nate McMillan story is taking on a life of its own and evoking plenty of response and opinion.  In the midst of reading the tea leaves, consider the following:

I don't think anybody is swallowing the "I want to earn it" explanation whole.  It's a great sentiment, but hasn't Nate already earned it, at least in his own mind?  He's shepherded this team through the end of a dismal era and brought them to the cusp of their new future.  He's developed players like Brandon Roy and Lamarcus Aldridge.  He netted 41 wins without Greg Oden.  What more could he do?  Something doesn't quite ring true about the explanation...not that it's a lie, just that there has to be something else to it.  Something is at issue either with the offer itself or with the situation.

It's possible that Nate doesn't see himself being happy long-term as the Blazer coach.  Maybe there's something in the office we don't see.  Maybe he envisions himself having more control over personnel decisions than he's likely to get here.  Maybe he prefers a new town in which to ply his trade.  You can't discount these possibilities, but as we've heard nothing in this vein beforehand it's probably prudent to put them on the back burner.

More likely this is an issue of leverage.  The team has done better in each of Nate's years here.  They're likely to improve this year as well.  That would give him more leverage.  After this season he'll have only one more year left on his contract.  Other teams will begin sniffing around.  That will give him more leverage.   The Blazers are about to dump bucket loads of money on players, both existing and incoming.  Dropping $12 million on a shiny, new free agent gives the coach a better argument for paying him better as well.  All of these factors point to the wisdom of waiting until later unless the offer is incredible now.  Nothing will happen in the next year that's going to damage Nate's position.  Even if the team bombs it's a push, here or somewhere else.  But a playoff berth, an impending bidding war, and money flying left and right have the potential to better his situation considerably.

Keep in mind how Nate came to the Blazers.  The Sonics made him offers.  They weren't good enough.  He rode it out, refusing to back down, and eventually got paid more handsomely than anyone imagined by heading to a new team.  This format has worked for him.  We've seen it before.  That doesn't mean he's leaving the Blazers for somebody else.  It means he's not likely to abandon the game plan until he's sure it has paid off.

There is another possibility that nobody has mentioned yet.  It's probably not true, but you wonder.  Nate took an incredible amount of flak last season while leading the Blazers to their best record in years.  In fact, if fan-board conversations are the measure, public assessment of his value and his judgment was at an all-time low.  If you were the Blazers, could you think of a better way to reverse that somewhat illogical tide than to leak a story like this?  "Oh dear, we want Nate but we're not sure we can keep him!  His darn nobility is getting in the way!"  All of a sudden re-signing him has become a priority and this discussion is on everybody's lips.  What do we need to do to keep him?  Will he stay with us?  Come on, Nate...we want you here!  Contrast this with what the response would be had Kevin Pritchard just come out and said, "Nate is our coach.  We like the job he's doing."  Immediately people would suspect he wasn't and they didn't.  This gives the same kind of confirmation, reminds everybody not to take Nate for granted, and brings a swell of vocal, public support for him.  Again...I am not doubting the veracity of the reporting.  This is probably a happy by-product of the story and not the reason for it.   Likely everything happened just as the Blazers office said it did.  But given the effectiveness of the approach, it makes you think a little.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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leverage, pure and simple

nobody wants to re-up, surpass expectations, and then look like a jerk when they demand a new contract.

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by Ben. on Jul 8, 2008 4:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 8, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

And I hope he has a ton of it after this season.

by grimc on Jul 8, 2008 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

diagree

in a few years who wouldn’t want to coach this squad? I could coach them from a hammock and video feed from barbados and probably win the west.

by begottenson on Jul 8, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only coaches in the nba

that i would definitely prefer over nate (in 2 years) are poppovich and sloan… you think they are coming to portland?

that’s where his leverage comes from.

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by Ben. on Jul 8, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they DO NOT have...

...Nate’s relationship with the Organization (Management & Players). Providing it’s a good one.
It is when this relationship sours, that a change is needed.

"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow

by Lizzy Lowblow on Jul 8, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh. Sloan? Seriously?

Good coach, but I wouldn’t want Phl Jcksn here, either. Pippen was a hard enough pill to swallow.

by grimc on Jul 8, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

no offense. I’m just saying it was hard to accept Pippen as a Blazer after years of abuse at MJ’s hands.

by grimc on Jul 8, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sloan

is top 2 in the league.

hate him or love him, that’s the truth.

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by Ben. on Jul 9, 2008 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

I think he was, but I don’t think he is anymore.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 10, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I don't think they're coming here,

but those are your guys, not mine. I think Pritchard wouldn’t find it too difficult to find someone who fits the culture and knows what they’re doing.

by begottenson on Jul 8, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

which coaches would you target?

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by Ben. on Jul 9, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lar-Bear

"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment

by tominhawaii on Jul 10, 2008 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nix the sloan

and insert Zen master and I agree.

The Zen master knows how to squeeze out that little extra from his talent.

Sloan is too cranky.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

personally i dont think PJ is still in the league then

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by Ben. on Jul 9, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate's Leverage =

Blazer victories.

And don’t discount Nate’s role in the team we have and are hoping will be. Nate’s coaching has as much to do with our bright outlook as Pritchard’s moves and players’ talents.

by grimc on Jul 8, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that is essentially what Jerry Jones

(NFL Cowboys) said when firing Jimmy Johnson (who had won 2 Super Bowls in a row) and only won one more Super Bowl with a roster full of HOF players.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 8, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he knows something the rest of us don't...

like that the Blazers are going to wreck opponents next year.

I’m with you, Ben.

Playing basketball... is like playing poker while running on a treadmill at full speed with people swinging a Louisville Slugger at you. -Dave on 95.5 The Game

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 8, 2008 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But I DO know that.

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by CatMan2 on Jul 8, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me..

Current Offer + Winning Team = Better Offer

Isn’t it really that simple? That’s the immediate interpretation I had when reading it on espn.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 8, 2008 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Precisely

It realy is that simple

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 8, 2008 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good question

nate is a really, really good coach.

not having him here hadn’t ever really crossed my mind.

but i guess seriously considering the thought of nate no longer being here… without any context or processing… and i’d be pretty worked up.

that said… i don’t think there’s any reason to be worked up.

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by Ben. on Jul 8, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

I fear the lack of Nate.

Keep the Nate please.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me

Like he is doing as a coach exactly what a player would do. Other than knowing how to say the right thing to get the fans on his side.. he is waiting it out for a new contract. Example: See Brand, Elton. Davis, Baron. Arenas, Gilbert.

Gilberts is most appropriate. He was going to resign, but he opted to wait for free agency rather than get an extension to make sure he got maximum dollar. Perhaps Nate was watching?

I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jul 8, 2008 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

a coach can do this because its his basketball IQ that makes him a good coach. That is not something that can get injured and need major surgery. If players were indistructable, this would happen more frequently with them.

Nate is too smart

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 8, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe

that Nate would seriously contemplate leaving Portland. Even for a monster payday.

I mean, isn’t he living every coach’s wet dream; at the helm of a ship that’s just bursting with young talent? What situation could possibly be more attractive for any NBA coach at this point in time? Unless he’s like Parcells – who seems to find his greatest fulfillment turning around teams that have bottomed out – why would Nate even consider walking away from a team that’s potentially poised for the kind of dominance that could help catapault his name into the upper echelon of the coaching pantheon?

by knickfan on Jul 8, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NEWS FLASH> Paul Allen to coach Trailblazers

Finally relinquishing his failed forays into general manager, Paul Allen has confirmed that he will taking over the head coaching of the Trailblazers. “I mean with this much talent, how can I go wrong?”, “This is a dream come true.” Nate McMillan was unavailable for comment, but was rumored to be pondering coaching the Nepalese Olympic team in 2012.

by ralphzillo on Jul 8, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you think that if Bill Gates came round

and dropped a cool Billion dollars at Clay Bennet’s for the Sonics ….would he sell??? Then Gates could fire PJ and keep the Sonics in Seattle and coach them up.

PS Then…...Steve Jobs could drop a B for the Warriors. That would be a cool division…don’t ya think

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 8, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reasons why Nate would want to leave when his contract is up

1. High risk, low reward – he is already regarded as one of the premier coaches in the NBA. That gives him leverage, and opportunities to continue coaching for a long time. If he stays and the team (loaded with all stars in their prime) flames out, who gets the blame? Nate.

2. He prefers to be the savior of bad situations rather than the cherry on top (like knickfan said above re: Parcells).

3. Coaching is a huge burnout. Nobody outside of Jerry Sloan stays in one spot forever. Plus, he’s making serious coin (hopefully he’s banked most of it), and I think his kids are almost grown up. So why not take a sabbatical year after this contract is up?

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 8, 2008 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He has the chance to reach the pinnacle and stay there

Do you really think he’s actually thinking “Hmmm, I’m good at turning a team around, but I just think when they get to be dynasty caliber, I won’t be able to coach them anymore.”? Do you think he wants to up and leave right around the time that he could get himself put snuggly into the hallof fame because of the stress that could occour? No, he’s waiting until after he makes the kind of strides he wants to get paid for. You don’t climb down the mountain before you reach the top because it’s a difficult journey.

Also, I think he is serious when he says he doesn’t want to stay in a bad situation. While things are on the up and up here, it is still a long way from anything actually panning out. In two years he’ll have a much better picture of what he wants to do, and I think he is being honest abou that. This seems ike a whole lot of smoke for a whole lot of nothing.

by einman77 on Jul 8, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are misunderstanding me. I listed three possible reasons why Nate would want to leave (in response to Dave’s original post which posed the question). I didn’t say that any of them reflected what was going on in Nate’s mind with any level of certainty. But for the sake of argument, here are my odds on the situation:

Nate is waiting because he wants to see how things pan out… no harm in doing that – 50%
Nate totally wants to stay, he’s just doing this as a negotiating ploy – 25%
Some other reason – 15%
Nate is struggling with burnout and is considering taking a break when his contract is up – 9%
Nate wants to be a turnaround artist – 0.99%
Nate doesn’t want the blame in case things don’t pan out – 0.01%

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 8, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other than 7, nobody reaches the pinnacle and stays there

Red Auerbach, Phil Jackson, Red Holzman, John Kundla , Rudy Tomjanovich, Pat Riley & Gregg Popovich have won multiple titles with the same team and remained there for over 5 years after winning one. No one else. There have been 308 Coaches historically (NBA, ABA, BAA), according to Basketball Reference, and only 12 have won 100 games over 50%.

There are 30 coaches in the league this year and only 3 (Sloan 20, Popovich 12, Jackson 8) have over 5 years completed with their present team. The average tenure is 3.33 years with the current team and without these 3 the average tenure is 2.0 years.

It does matter who coaches them and it does require different talents for different maturity levels of teams. Starting from scratch – give me Larry Brown or Coach Nate. Starting with MJ, Shaq & K*by, – Phil Jackson is the right guy. But players stop listening to coaches after awhile and especially after winning the title a couple of times. MJ kept Phil against management and Timmy and Pop are like left and right shoes so they have remained. Phil is sleeping with the enemy (as well as being the enemy) now so his tenure in LA is maybe skewed by that factor.

As the Blazers now turn into a mature team they will need different coaching (but perhaps Coach Nate can change with them). Mostly it seems like a fact of the NBA that coaches and players come and go in a relatively short time frame. Coach Nate knows this and likely wants to leave on his own terms; meaning he has two more years to produce a deep playoff team. If he succeeds there will be a fat new 5 year contract for him. If he fails an extended contract will not help him stay.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 9, 2008 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question is...

Should the Blazers wait until the time Nate chooses before they look for a coach ?.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jul 9, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is not regarded as one of the premier coaches

not yet anyways. he may be regarded as such in the owners circle, but in the coaches circle, he hasnt done (poop) in the post season, and thats what it is going to take for his peers to give him praise.

maybe nate doesnt care about being legendary, maybe it is all about the money. I doubt that. I see the passion in which he has for his players. He has a man-crush on roy… actually… so do I

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 8, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's about leverage in this case

I think Nate is honestly a guy that wants prove himself by going above and beyond and that he won’t feel deserving until he brings this team back to the playoffs. Maybe he will go right after that like he did in Seattle, but maybe he is trying to set the example to his young and impressionable team who see that “The Sarge” doesn’t feel accomplished here yet, despite individual achievement. And tin response to the talk of him going soft and turning into Mo Cheeks because he turned down Bayless’ handshake in favor of a hug-No. He obviously wants to mentor Bayless and turn him into a true point. Speaking from a purely management perspective, you can’t tear someone a new one when they mess up and expect them to realize you are improving them in their own interest until you first show that person you care about them and their success. If he gets here and Nate starts off as the authority figure, he would have the same attitude Sergio does by next year.

by MGNNoah on Jul 8, 2008 6:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea that

he may be trying to set an example… but I only like that idea because I wish it were true. There is no way you turn down an extension unless you think you can get more if you hold out a little. There is very low risk here for nasty nate

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 8, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I completely agree. This is consistent with Nate’s past statements and behavior. I didn’t think twice about it other than “oh, that’s Nate being Nate.”

by grigs on Jul 8, 2008 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec

Useful background that helps make sense of this and that I was not aware of.

"Shoot, I don't even have anything to put in my own sig"

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Yes, pualo, an extraordinarily discerning BEdger with a knack for subtle expression.

by CatMan2 on Jul 8, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Just..

wanted to see it turn green.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 9, 2008 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

I wanted to believe this upon hearing the story yesterday, and hearing Nate discuss it on Wheel’s show reinforced it: Nate doesn’t want something he doesn’t deserve, doesn’t want to be in a situation where he isn’t wanted and wants the continued flexibility, both for himself and management, to decide somewhere down the road that it just isn’t working out.

Why is this such a seemingly tough concept for most folks? Why does there have to be a smokescren or hidden agenda? Nate is the kind of guy that believes he has value, and if his employer believes he has value he will be compensated for it. In his interview, Nate mentioned how the concept of a guaranteed job is unusual to begin with. How true! Unless you are a member of Congress, most of us don’t have the luxury of knowing that 6 years down the road we will still be employed, or we will have been fired but will still be making the same fat paycheck in spite of it. Nate said when he was a player, guys didn’t get long term contracts, and he believes the league was better because of it. And I don’t think this has to even be an “old school” or “throwback” concept. Maybe in today’s NBA it is, but this mentality still exists in the everyday workaday world. Is it that unusual that a guy could simply have a bit of honor and pride, and actually place a value on it that exceeds what is measured in dollars?

by lukeyhere on Jul 9, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's in a win-win situation

The “best” coaches, the Larry Browns or Phil Jacksons, have $10 million bucks a year as their top salary. That’s like being a max 20+ million plus player or sumthin. Nate is already at 6 million… he doesn’t have a lot of room left to go.

I think this is a situation, like Dave says, where it’s a win-win for Nate, as long as he is confident in his ability to coach this team to a good record next season. I don’t see how he couldn’t feel that way, as he always has.

We do well, he gets more money, he stays on, everyone is happy.

I don’t want him to go, and I really like the job he has done. His extension was likely right about where he’s getting paid right now, and obviously Nate could get more from Paul Allen if we’re doing really well.

Was this that controversial though? We know KP and Friends liked Nate and the job he was doing, and an extension offer two years before you gotta do it is pretty nice. Nate also knows he’s here for something big, and on the advice of his agent or his own inclination, he knows he can get a piece of that money pie as well. Either way, even if the team stagnates somehow (and what IS stagnating, on a team with 3 rotation rookies?), he’ll at least make as much as he’s making now.

Nate got a lot of guff for whatever reason, but I have to believe most Blazer fans love him. How could they not?

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 8, 2008 6:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I predict

after the blaze make the post season, nate signs a 5 year- $40 million extension

much better than whatever he just turned down. cashville

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 8, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither side ready to truly commit

I’m sure it wasn’t the worlds greatest offer. All Nate has done so far is to show he can develop young players. The Blazers probably didn’t make a huge offer/effort because of that.

If he continues to bring the team along and make it look like he can take them up another level (championship) in the future, I’m sure they will offer him a lot more. If not, he might get more from a team at the beginning of a rebuilding process, and we can bring in someone who has shown the ability to make a very good team into champions.

by hoopla-pdx on Jul 8, 2008 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

like who?

the thought of anyone else but nate makes me unsettled

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 8, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Popovich would be nice

With Tim Duncan fading or retiring, he might be interesting in moving. Other than him, it is tough to see who would be a sure thing.

Nate still hasn’t shown he can take a team deep into the playoffs, or even get there consistently. I hope he does with us, but if all he does is develop these guys, I’ll be happy.

by hoopla-pdx on Jul 9, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good heads up!

He sounds very confident, and at the same time so professional it’s almost unnerving.

by MGNNoah on Jul 8, 2008 6:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone name a coach in a more enviable position?

I mean, really. Is there any way Nate could lose in this scenario? If they do poorly, it’s because they weren’t as good of prospects as expected, and (at worst case) Nate gets a big contract with another team. If they do well, it’s because he’s great and he deserves 10M+ per year. Not because the players were simply hungry to get better and young enough to play hard.

Not too shabby of a position for Nate to be in.

Of course, I’m the resident cynic who thinks Nate’s role has been romanticized in retrospect (a lot of people were unhappy with him during the season but now it’s a love-fest), and that he’s a good developmental coach but very questionable as a game strategy coach. KP disagrees with me, so I’ll trust his judgment, even in disagreement.

by Timmay! on Jul 8, 2008 6:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

if the blazers go 40-42

nate might see some fingers pointed at him

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 8, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kremlinology...

That’s what this discussion reminds me of. There are a lot of entertaining and insightful theories; one more won’t hurt.

Mr. McMillan asked for veterans, and Mr. Pritchard said (promised?) we wouldn’t grow younger. We have no evidence (yet) McMillan’s request is being heeded.

There has also been a lot of talk (at least in Fan Posts) focusing on the expectation that next season we could winnow the roster down to a normal eight or nine man rotation, while instead the rotation is expanding by four new rookies. Henry Abbott went so far as to title one of his blog entries a week or so back “Too many players in Portland”...

Whether or not this theory has any merit, Coach McMillan has full plate next season, regardless of the talent.

by jaywalker on Jul 8, 2008 7:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Some other thoughts...

I have to start out by saying the obvious…everything I say here is speculation. Here are some observations about Nate (and the front office) that I think all of us should consider.

1. Nate has developed the reputation for doing things on his terms. Zach Randolph tried to jokingly mock him about this by calling him “Sarge”

2. Nate gets frustrated when people question his decisions. You can see it and hear it when he is asked questions about playing Joel in the 4th quarter, playing Jarrett Jack so much more than Sergio, etc. Now, most of us are the same way, but Nate has to deal with people questioning his coaching decisions on a constant basis. That has to wear on you after a while.

3. Based on what we’ve seen, Nate is more of a slow it down and call out offensive sets type of coach. There is a reason we’ve been last in the league in fast break points. The main reason is that our perimeter defense by our point guards has been atrocious, so perhaps that has to do with personnel. Anyways, there is also reason to believe that his basketball philosophy doesn’t necessarily match up with Kevin Pritchard’s. Kevin Pritchard has gone out and gotten young guys that could really thrive in more of an uptempo system. Other than the preseason, we have not seen that.

4. Nate has openly said he wants more veterans, and to this point hasn’t gotten them. I think that would be nice, but I don’t think there is anyone we can’t live without, who is worth giving up our young talent for (at this point anyway…the cake is still baking). I think Nate struggles with his patience a bit, because he is competitive and wants to win now.

I do think there is more than what meets the eye concerning this whole extension business, but I will go on record and suggest that I think Blazer fans are in a better spot because he turned down the extension.

What often seems to be lost in the conversation is this; In the same way we are going through a process of developing our players, the truth is, Nate is still developing as a coach. He hasn’t arrived yet in terms of being a can’t miss coaching prospect. He had one good year in Seattle, and he is yet to get us to the playoffs. To his credit, things are definitely going in the right direction. As much as I like Nate, there is a fair amount of stuff that I dislike about how he runs things. I’m not completely convinced yet that Nate McMillan is a flexible enough of a coach to get the most out of his players. I feel he has failed to utilize Martell Webster the proper way. I feel he was completely wrong to leave Joel Przybilla out of the forth quarters of games. I feel he was wrong to sit Blake the entire 4th quarter of games in favor of Mr. Turnover Jarrett Jack. So Nate has not arrived. He is a decent coach, who I think has been overrated from time to time.

In all fairness, a coach is limited by the players he has to work with. An example is LMA, who finally figured out he can be dangerous down low, instead of sitting on the perimeter all night. How much better could we have been in the 1st 1-2 months of the season had he asserted himself down on the post? How much better could we have been if Martell had played more intense defense earlier in the season?

I see the turning down of this extension as something that consistantly fits with Nate’s behavior. He wants to do things on his terms. If he waits a few years to get his extension, he will definitely get paid more. Salaries continue to go up as time passes by. If he feels like he has lost his passion for coaching, or lost the focus of his players, he has left himself some outs to simply walk away. Nate seems to be a spirtual man who is content with what he has. He is a multi-multi millionare who has spent 30+ years of his life in basketball. He does not strike me as being someone who likes to be handcuffed. He reminds me of what Mike Holmgren has done the past few years.

And I could be wrong. It might just be that he is leaving himself an opportunity for when the Indiana coaching job comes open. Then he would be free to pursue his mancrush, Jarrett “Hot-Buns” Jack.

Only time will tell.

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Jul 8, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

rec

Yet another excellent take on this topic

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These are the modest words of pualo, posted on June 20, 2008.
Yes, pualo, an extraordinarily discerning BEdger with a knack for subtle expression.

by CatMan2 on Jul 9, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

quickslapped

seems to me Jason Quick may have brought this up out of left field, and Nate bit
it would seem now is not the time to be thinking about this, he’s thinking about getting ready
for the season, and the olympics, revenge for the “blazers drafted D.J. Augustin” pritchslap?

by contemnor on Jul 8, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Coaches v Players

Coaches don’t have to worry about blowing out a knee, so they don’t have the same motivations to get an extension as the players. Granted I don’t normally pay much attention to stuff like this but it seems unusual to have a huge controversy over whether an extension should be signed for an NBA coach who has two years left on a five year deal.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 8, 2008 11:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could remember where

but nate has made a comment before about being unsure if he’ll be coaching the blazers in the future.

Also, there has been some clashing over what KP tells sergio and what Nate tells sergio and that could be an issue if there’s two different sets of messaging going on in the organization. I know, on a personal level, that I don’t tolerate that very well and it would be a reason that I would quit a job no matter how cool it is. It’s important for management to be on the same page.

It may also be a response to “we need to move ahead and if we draft people that we need to wait on, then we’re not winning and that’s a problem.”

I do think there is an issue and I don’t think it’s all about leverage and money. After all, Nate DID leave seattle.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2008 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Playing slow

Nate has to date preferred to play slow and all his best seasons his team played slow. 2003-4 he was pushed by management to play faster and it was (by a little) his worst result with Sonics. If pushed to play faster there could be trouble depending on results. Nate has also always wanted more input on player decisions. Don’t know how much influence he has right now but waiting on extension is keeping pressure on that front.

by outsider on Jul 9, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rank

On accomplishments to date Nate probably ranks about 12th.
But he is in a good spot to rise.

by outsider on Jul 9, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep Nate.

I think Nate should re sign. He has also been a big part of turning the Blazers around. This past season, left me with signs the Blazers are an emerging team. Seattle’s loss was Portland’s gain. I hope Portland doesn’t lose him. The Sonics last good season was his last as their coach. Sure he hasn’t led a team far into the playoffs, but I think a foundation is there for great things in Portland and I consider him part of it. I was shocked he didn’t get coach of the year after leading the Blazers to a surprise season. Again, as I said he is part of a foundation for great things in Portland and the better move I think is to re sign him.

by CanadianBlazerfan on Jul 14, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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