Ex-Lakes
by The pack is back on Jul 5, 2008 5:09 PM PDT
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PrintHello Blazer's Edge, I am new to the Blazer nation. I use to be a Laker fan, but seeing what the Blazers have done the last few years I can not help but get excited for the great city of Portland. I was born and raised a laker fan, so I may be shuned from my family but I think it is a chance worth taking. I finally can cheer for a team in my own state.
Being a life long Packer fan I have learned to take the good years with the bad, i am just lucky enough to join when things are looking up. I have also learned to hate rivals (vikings) as it may take a while I am sure my hatered for the Lakers will grow with each passing year.
For those of you who think I am just jumping on the bandwagon I can assure you I am doing this for life. Why would I stop rooting for a team that just made the finals and seems poised to do it again (if it werent for the Blazers who are going to stop them). I am going to bleed black and red as I do green and gold. If you only knew what kind of packer fan I am, I am sure you all will be happy with kind of fan you are getting.
I can not wait for this season to start and see how all the pieces of this puzzle fit. Thank you all and GO BLAZERS.
The Pack is Back
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Huh?
Sounds a lot like a bandwagon fan to me. I am positive not all on Blazer’s Edge will share my sentiment, but I would just as rather you go back on cheering for the Lakers than latching onto the Blazer’s fanbase. I can’t stand bandwagon fans, and Lkers fans in particular drive me crazy. However, I can’t stop you from being a Blazer’s fan, so all I can ask of you is that you make this your new permanent address. No more switching to another up-and-coming team, you must stay a Blazer’s fan for the rest of your life.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people
Gee, way to welcome him Blazersfan50
I know exactly who you are ‘The Pack is Back’ and I wrote a little song for you. Feel free to check it out at this link. http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/7/2/563768/semi-ot-for-tweener-our-bl
Welcome to the fold!
Can I buy you a fish sandwich?
Hey, Blazersfan50, I'll bet you like the Ducks, huh?
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"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
Well, in my defense...
Bandwagon fans are a sensitive subject for me. After years of getting taunted at High School for supporting the Blazers, they finally started to look like they could win at all. And, poof, sudden;y there were Blazers fan all over the school. I can’t help the way I feel. But I guess I could extend an apology to The pack is back, one less Laker fan and one more Blazers fan can’t be that much of a bad thing in the long run.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people
I agree with you, it's a lot to swallow but I guess in the long run it can't be THAT bad...
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.' -Homer J Simpson
"We become what we hate." -- Ben Weasel
After years of getting taunted at High School for supporting the Blazers, they finally started to look like they could win at all. And, poof, sudden;y there were Blazers fan all over the school. I can’t help the way I feel.
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
How;s the weather up there on your pedestal?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.' -Homer J Simpson
I totally agree!
It irks me when people jump on the bandwagon too after I stuck with the team for so long. I don’t mind so much when Portlanders jump on, but outsiders both me a lot.
On the other hand, I recognize that the team does need more fans and new fans. I can’t expect to continue going to games and seeing an empty upper deck of the Rose Garden like 2005. The added fanbase breeds excitement and helps our players enjoy playing for the Blazers.
Plus, the team’s lack of success was not the sole impetus to change Blazer culture. The transition occurred because many fans in Portland were simply not proud to be Blazer fans anymore (and stopped spending money on the team, of course). A lot of the changes we have seen may not have happened if the team didn’t lose so much support. I have come to the realization that the fairweather fans had some tiny, indirect part in shaping this team. Thus, although it’s painful for those of us who always believed this team, we need to learn to accept the bandwagoners. And in the end, I console myself with the knowledge that I’m going to appreciate any future success that much more than the average Joe because I remember the details of the Jail Blazers era.
Something similar happened in Boston this year when after years of screwing the fans (Roy for Telfair, anyone?) over Ainge finally put together a team the city can be proud of. There were a TON of new Celtics jerseys all over Boston that I never saw two years ago. A fan can’t be faulted for abandoning a team because the management made absolutely horrible decisions, and then jumping back on when the team was rebuilt with character guys who actually had some skill.
However, the moratorium in Boston to jump on the bandwagon is over. All the fans who started rooting for the Celtics after June 1 should not be allowed into the garden. Similarly, in Portland fans who want to root for this team need to start now. I want no part of the guy who buys a Roy jersey and WCF tix after not going to a game all season.
Fairweather fan
I dont concider myself a fairweather fan. As a Packer fan I went to every home game the year they were 4-12 and cheered for them as if they were about to win the superbowl. I know the trials that come with bad teams, the heartache.
We have no idea how this team will turn out it could be like the Bulls, all that talent then just tank. I hope it is not like that but if it is I am still a fan I will support them from now on. The Bazers are my NBA Packers. And if you only knew how I feel about the Packers>
by The pack is back on Jul 7, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Can't he be excited for the Blazers?
And what if he did come in after the Blazers got really good? Maybe even won a championship or two? This kind of talk, like in your above post, is no different to me than fan discrimination. I see it as a form of age discrimination, with the fan’s age being how long they have been a Blazers’ fan.
Maybe this isn’t what you intended to say, but it is the way I heard it.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
I just don't like it...
when people jump from one NBA team to another. Or when they only follow a team when they are actually good and then forget about them during rebuilding years. It’s a pretty common pet peeve in the sports world.
In reality, it’s not really a big deal either way, and I am aware of that. But I figure if I’m going to post here I might as well do it passionately.
I'm the same way
If I say I like a movie, and then my wife says she likes the movie too; I change my favorite movie, so she can’t jump on my bandwagon.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
We fans are people living by others´ success.
Probably we are not in a position to give or refuse fandom credentials.
The Midnight Rambler
It's kind of a grey area...
As fans we also are never actually part of the professional sports teams we root for, yet I see the word “we” being thrown around to describe the Blazers here quite often. I think this, and the adverse bandwagon feelings some have, are a result of fan culture that gets created. Members of this culture feel, in a figurative (and probably subconscious) way that they become a small part of the team, and that creates a sense of unity among us. Thus, for some, when “outsiders” attempt to “join the team” it is offensive because they haven’t experienced rooting for the team, and thus haven’t “paid their dues” to enter into fandom. From this perspective, it would almost be like trying to join a fraternity, yet not refusing to do any of the initiation rituals. Others aren’t quite as uptight about things and feel like it’s not a big deal.
Is one viewpoint better than another? Inherently, no. One is based on the idea that as fans we are not really part of the team, and thus have no right to criticize someone for joining in, and the other viewpoint is based on the idea that fans become part of their own “team” and one must pay dues to enter, like those before him/her.
by erastus25 on Jul 7, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand you point of view. I don´t know what is better.
I don´t know if I would like initiation rituals or fraternities. I like to share ideas, feelings, experiences, jokes,... who knows. I would like to share with “The pack is back” too and I think Tweener, a true Blazer fan, deserves we welcome his friend with open arms. Anyhow the discusion is very interesting and perhaps the highway is not the best way.
The Midnight Rambler
You are gracious as always Alfredo (Amlmart1)
Thank you for being so welcoming to my friend and to many others here. Without your intelligent perspective & TominHawaii’s…. ummm welll…... just TominHawaii I’m sure many discussions could get out of hand and become unpleasant.
Oh thanks. I only did remember...
I’ve been tryin’ to get to You for a long time
‘Cause constantly You been on my mind
I was thinkin’ about a short cut I could take
But it seems like I made a mistake
I was wrong, baby it took too long
I got caught in the rush hour
Fellas started to shower
You with love and affection
Now You won’t look in my direction (on the)
Expressway to your heart
The expressway – not the best way
The Midnight Rambler
+1
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Batuuuuuuuum!
by rockingharder on Jul 7, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Fu'get about it!
Never been a bandwagon guy, never will be. However… maybe we ought to be accepting new Blazer fans with open arms. Whether they are former Laker fans or not, WE are still the Blazer Believer’s.
Welcome Pack Is Back.
Ps.- Current BEdger’s: Let’s not be so stingy about who likes our team huh? We have a great team. We all know it, and talk about them every day. Who really cares who likes us or even hates us for that matter. Life goes on, and we will still be here supporting our team.
"It's amazing what a group of guys can accomplish when no one cares who gets credit."
President Harry S. Truman
And...
... ‘pack is back’ has already shown some self-depricating humor (ex-lakes). Perhaps the purging has begun?
Welcome
As a packer/blazer fan for life, I can tell you it’s a pretty awesome combo of fandom. I don’t care about bandwagon or not, one less l*ker fan and one more blazer fan is a win in my book. As long as your love for the blazers is authentic, welcome!
Yes, the pack is back is a friend of mine and the subject of the recent
Blazer Missionary post. He has willingly turned over his Kobe jersey to me.
He is certainly the type of fan you want rooting for our team. He was inconsolable after Brett Favre announced his retirement. If he ends up loving Brandon Roy as much as he does Favre I’d be concerned that he would try to interrupt the game to give Roy a hug.
The pack is a good guy…. give him a chance. He did buy some 100 level tickets for us to go the last home game of the year so he can’t be all bad.
Absolutely welcome!
In the dark times, the Blazers were hurting for fans, and those who remained held that fact as a badge of honor. Now that the Blazers are showing promise, and people are starting to pull for them, I think those guys do get a little jealous. I can understand, because they held with the team through some very thin years.
However, when the dark era arrived, I myself cashed in my Blazer fandom for a half-eaten bologna sandwich. I pretty much missed the 2000 run because of it. But around 2006, the team really started to turn their image around, starting with one Brandon Roy. This kid alone made me remember all the Blazer games long past that I had spent with my grandfather, listening to the Schonz on the radio. He was the guy who was going to change everything, and so far, he has exceeded my expectations.
So, welcome aboard. If some don’t like you because of where you came from, that is their loss. Every Blazer fan is a welcome Blazer fan, no matter how new you are.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
On another note,
Since I will be in Wisconsin for a year for an internship, I will be a de facto Packers fan for that time. I was told by the Wisconsinites whom I go to school with that it was a requirement for entering the state. Since I have nothing against the Packers to begin with, that makes it easy. It’s not like I’m a Bears fan or anything.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
Wisconsin
If you can, head northeast to Green Bay. Even better try to go to a Packer game Packer fan or not the experience is like none other. Hope you enjoy tour year in Packer country.
The Pack
by The pack is back on Jul 5, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
welcome to Blazer talk central
Here at Bedge we have many opinionated folk; many of whom won’t even say L@kers. I welcome you and hope you enjoy the ride.
I have a question for you so that we may all know you better. What was your favorite moment in a L@ker/Blazer Game last year.
Mine was one in which Roy was playing and it was near the end of the quarter and both teams were determined to score. I don’t recall who had the last possession but I recall Kobe being stopped by Roy and on the other end of the court Roy took it right at Kobe settling for a lay-in at the rim. Man that was sweet.
Roys crossover
He broke Waltons ankles. I like Walton but i like a great crossover even better it was great.
by The pack is back on Jul 5, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to the good side
Although I have a question:
Tell me honestly, did you ever feel at one point that you were a laker fan “for life?”
According to the rules of fandom, because you were born/live in Portland, you should have been rooting for the Blazers all along. HOWEVER, because your parents raised you as a Laker fan, you hold allegience to both your team and your parents (it’s in the Bible!)
But my point is, if you ever felt that you would be a “laker fan for life” then we can’t really trust that you will be a Blazer fan for life, as you say.
I’m not judging or shunning you, because I always love another convert to the Blazers side. I just want the facts to be clear about your rooting interests.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jul 5, 2008 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
The good side
Both my parents grew up in Southern Cal and I still have a lot of family down there, so I guess because of them I was a fan, and lets be honest Portland has had some pretty bad teams not bad on the court but off the court and thats what I cant stand. So when they started to turn the team around I started to respect them more and more. Ill just say it is finally nice to be able to say I am a Blazer fan. Cause I love Oregon and Portland and will be proud to root for them against the lakers. I am for real>
by The pack is back on Jul 5, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
But see, this is my point
You grew up in Portland, and didn’t root for the Blazers because they were bad. Now that they’re getting to be good again (both on and off the court), you are jumping ship. See why people are calling you bandwagon?
And you never answered my question, how strong was your love for the L*kers? Because if you grew up loving them and are now leaving them even after they went to the finals, we can’t really trust your love for the Blazers.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jul 6, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
dude,
That’s not exactly a fair question to ask. If the guy says he didn’t have strong passion for the L*kers, then you could say that you don’t trust his ability to love the blazers strongly and is a bandwagon fan, and if he had a strong passion for the lakers, then you could say that he’s being unfaithful.
If you're going to bag on him for not loving the Blazers enough,
then bag on me too. I gave up on the team around the ‘96 or ‘97 season, and didn’t really look back until Brandon Roy showed up. My love for the team is no where near as strong as some of the people here, and still may be even less than The Pack Is Back. I don’t think it is fair to require a level of fandom from people before letting them become fans, much less contributors.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
Anyone who doubts agnosticism is welcome!
Of course, a healthy doubt of gnosticism is also appreciated. At least as long as you can play the tuba. Otherwise, it’s just a wagon. And those are boring without a band.
:)
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
Do you think of agnosticism as a religion?
I think I do.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
There are lots of religions.
Buddhism, Shintoism, Manicheanism, Conservatism, Liberalism, Materialism, Moderatism, Modernism, Post-Modernism, Antidisestablishmentarianism, the list goes on forever. Except if you run out of words.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
Dill or Sweet?
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
You just had to go there.
That very subject is tearing the church apart.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
You can never know orthodoxy without the heretics.
And when people embrace dill, I am here to welcome them. Sweet pickle fans are like those who are still L[xxx]r fans. I feel bad for them, but if they refuse to see the light, what can you do?
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
Even sweet pickles have their niche.
Think turkey sandwiches after thanksgiving dinner. Yum! But with a hamburgar? Not so much. Sweet pickles must be kept in their place.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
Have you ever had
A peanut butter and pickle sandwich?
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
I've had both
I done lernt the recipe from a pregnant woman and it is spectacular! I honestly do not have a preference in regards to the dillness or the sweetness. Both are heavenly on toasted bread.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
Everything is better on toasted bread.
Everything.
That should get this conversation even further derailed. My job is done.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
Try peanut butter and bacon on toast.. Mmmmmm.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
I do that but in a tortilla instead of toast
It will fill you right up if you are being lazy and trying to cook dinner without missing a play during the game. My wife thinks I’m nasty though when I do that.
They're great little high energy
packets of hiking food too.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
It is a worthless religion that offers no hope
some of the Bedgers posting on this thread refuse to give this repentant former Faker Fan even so much as a chance to come into the light of BlazerMania for even his first time. It is not like this guy has waffled back and forth between the Blazers and the Fakers, No, he is attempting conversion for the first time and some of the brethren are not welcoming him into the fold.
I have left other beliefs due to this kind of hard heartedness. Please guys cut this guy some slack.
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!
To all those looking to follow the Blazers,
and is good advice for all religions, don’t judge the Blazers on the basis of their fans. Evaluate them on the basis of their primary documents, er, the team itself.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
I almost made that my signature
“We can’t really trust your love for the Blazers.” SandbergOnSports
I wonder if I can just make up quotes in my signature, just to prove Kerry Eggers right.
“We can’t really trust your love for the Blazers.” SandbergOnSports talking about Dave
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
Welcome from Spain.
A friend of tweener is a great guy and a great fan for sure.
The Midnight Rambler
Nice to have you on board.
Oh, and the Vikes will OWN the Pack this season. Go Vikes!
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
He shall be accepted
but I believe he should have to face some sort of initiation. A picture of him burning a Kbe jersey, a picture of him burning a Kbe poster, or ever a picture of him burning K*be himself would be sufficient.
Welcome to being a fan of a team that doesn’t make me hate you.
Stop the Profanity! or if you must, please write
l*kers. it less offends the eye
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
Anyone want to take bets on whether Dave expunges at least part of this thread?
Just to add a little fuel to the fire, I never really thought of Pippen as a true Blazer. We were just a stop-gap to retirement for him. From everything I’ve heard about Pippen he is someone who wouldn’t “fit our culture” these days.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
by annthefan on Jul 6, 2008 1:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ann
I’m giving you virtual daps for the double entendre. Nice…
by Montavilla Steve on Jul 6, 2008 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Eurie!
Whadda ya think? Gots possibilities?
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jul 6, 2008 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
something about this whole thread is fishy...
Pack is Back, I feel that in order for everyone to understand where you’re coming from, you need to fully explain how devoted you were to the Lakers, why you’re suddenly leaving them, why you didn’t like the Blazers before, and why you like them now.
A lot of questions, I know, but you failed to answer those in your original post.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jul 6, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions
Hey Laker Boy
I hope you don’t mind me calling you that. What’s your favorite memory as a Laker fan?
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
Memory
I have to say all my good memorys of lakers are no longer I am a Blazer fan now. The laker hate begins.
by The pack is back on Jul 7, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good Answer Grasshopper
You have passed the first test.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
He'd Accept the Guy with Open Arms
Then call him Laker Boy whenever they disagreed.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
As a past and frequent recipient of fatty's ire
I humbly disagree.
BLZRS FRVR
by nightbluefruit on Jul 7, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
4 Reals?
We joined about the same time and he was hatin’ on u? I didn’t know that.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
o hellz yess he was
P.S. I like your ongoing commitment to using horrifying animals as your avatar. Kudos.
BLZRS FRVR
by nightbluefruit on Jul 7, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I find your avatar erotic.
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
That's actually a genetic response.
1/10 people (approx.) feel the same way about it. The gene is recessive and located on the x chromosome, so it’s much more likely for men then women (just like color-blindness)
Can you roll your tongue? 75% of people with the “erotic” response to my avatar can also roll their tongues.
BLZRS FRVR
by nightbluefruit on Jul 7, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, and I have a widow's peak
"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment
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