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The Forgotten Blazers Appreciation Thread

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I thought it would be a cool idea to discuss some of our "forgotten" Blazers.  The list is long, post your memories here.

Feel free to add more, but here are some that I remember from the '90s-2000s:

Alaa Abdelnaby

Vincent Askew

Marcus Brown

Rick "The Brunson Burner" Brunson

Mitchell Butler

Kelvin Cato

Randolph Childress

John Crotty

Kaniel Dickens

Alexandar "crappy bald Euro" Djordjevic

Jim Jackson

Reggie Jordan

Joe "tall white stiff" Kleine

Alton Lister

Ruben Nembhard

Will "another tall white stiff" Perdue

James "Hollywood" Robinson

Carlos "the Damon trade was really about me" Rogers

Brian "one game" Shaw

Charles Smith

Otis "seriously?  You traded Clyde and all you got was me?" Thorpe

Gary "Pool Cue" Trent

Ennis Whatley

Alvin Williams

Dontonio Wingfield

Joe Wolf

 

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ennis was a cool guy

how about lamont strothers,

if it can be conceived it can be achieved

by lyfefindsaway on Jul 5, 2008 8:10 AM PDT   0 recs

Don't know if they count as "forgotten"

From the Paul Allen Era>

Detlef Schrempf (definitely remembered in Seattle)

Buck Williams

Cliff Robinson. Together with the above mentioned James Robinson and the not yet named Rumeal Robinson formed the “Three Robinsons”.

Just looked up Jim Jackson, he played for 13 different NBA teams (12 on the active roster)! That must be some kind of record for a journeyman.

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 5, 2008 9:23 AM PDT   0 recs

And averaged

25 ppg one season….!

by jamon51 on Jul 7, 2008 11:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Walt "The Wizard" Williams

Man how could you leave out the Wizard, that guy could shoot. He also had some hiiiigh socks.
Stacey Augmon; I don’t know if he qualifies as forgotten.

by ChadFord on Jul 5, 2008 9:38 AM PDT   1 recs

Yes!

Those were the two guys I was going to add. Augmon was “The Plastic Man” – I remember loving him for his defense.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Batuuuuuuuum!

by rockingharder on Jul 5, 2008 10:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I totally loved Walt Williams

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Jul 6, 2008 7:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Walt was indeed awesome

We were so insanely deep he hardly got to play. He’d come in, knock down 3 treys and sit down.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 7, 2008 12:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Erick Barkley

could straight ball.

i think hes about 30 now, so if bayless doesnt work out kp should give him a call

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 5, 2008 10:00 AM PDT   0 recs

Eric Barkley...lol

I had an autographed rookie card of his that I was SURE was going to be worth a ton of money someday.

How do I set my laser printer to stun?

by prezofdeath on Jul 6, 2008 3:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I rec'd this thread

because it was the first time i’d heard John Crotty’s name mentioned, probably since 9/11.

Here are a few more:

walter davis
robert pack
tracy murray
harvey grant

"Honor Terry Porter." Email me with your TP stories and memories.

by Ben. on Jul 5, 2008 10:00 AM PDT   0 recs

great list of guys who never amounted to anything

I got this tape of an old PTB game where Tracy Murray lofts a 3 and by loft I mean rafters, and it actually goes out of the screenshot before gravity takes over and pulls it back thru the net like a black hole. Amazing touch that guy had, too bad he didnt play D.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Muray was insane

He had some sweet half court shot abilities.

He’s now doing awesome bball training vids apparently.

How do I set my laser printer to stun?

by prezofdeath on Jul 6, 2008 3:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know why I remember this

but I remember one time them showing Tracy Murray warming up and he was wearing a T-shirt that said “Drugs,Sex,Basketball”

I have no idea why I remember this so vividly

by tingeyga on Jul 8, 2008 12:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Danny Young

Calvin Natt, Mark Bryant, Rick Adelman the player, Kenny Carr, Wayne Cooper, TR Dunn, Petur Gudmundsson (our first Scandinavian?), Steve Johnson, Caldwell Jones, Kevin Kunnert (another 7’ white guy),

"We will do nice things!" - Rudy, 07/01/08

by jorga on Jul 5, 2008 10:09 AM PDT   0 recs

I once saw...

Peter Verhoeven and Petur Gudmundsson out at the old Putt-Putt Golf Course at 122nd and Division. And another time I saw Darnell Valentine there.

by TallTimber on Jul 5, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

how long did you have to play and how much is today's NBA pension?

You know those guys got it good

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

According to this Askmen.com article
In 2001, it was only at $306.34 per month for each season played - regardless of performance. Meaning both Michael Jordan and the 12th man on any bench would get the same $50,000 after a 14 or 15-year career.

Link

by tingeyga on Jul 8, 2008 12:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cooooooooooooop!

CJ was another favorite of mine. You had to love CJ’s approach to the game.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ramon Ramos

......stil a really sad story.

"Rudy Fernández ha confirmado hoy que la próxima temporada jugará en el Portland Trail Blazers"

by $chonzarelli on Jul 5, 2008 1:02 PM PDT   0 recs

Ramon Ramos

when Ramos came out of Gtown I thought the PTB had a heck of a player. You’re right, how sad. Ramos woulda improved the team. $chonz I salute you.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 4:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

amen

Vote Sam Bowie as Greatest "Other" Blazer Ever.

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jul 7, 2008 12:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Alvin Robertson,

Rick Roberson (I think), Darnell Valentine, Kenny Karr, Kermit Washington, Lloyd Neal (a few of those guys though are hardly forgotten. How about Bill Walton? I think he played for us.

by TwoDeep on Jul 5, 2008 1:05 PM PDT   0 recs

"DON"T SHOOT VALENTINE!!!!!!!!"

- the entire Memorial crowd on any givin night.

"Rudy Fernández ha confirmado hoy que la próxima temporada jugará en el Portland Trail Blazers"

by $chonzarelli on Jul 5, 2008 1:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wasnt the Valentine the guy who killed the Beavers

in the 1st round of that years NCAA tourney? Deep in the corner as I recall.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That was Rolando Blackmon

And it was K-State, not Kansas.

Valentine had those Mr. Olympia-sized legs, but I don’t think I ever saw him dunk.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 7, 2008 10:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

TOM OWENS

Another 7 foot white stiff.

THE PURE AND SIMPLE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE AND NEVER SIMPLE -Oscar Wilde

(Bunburying in Portland)

by Bunburying08 on Jul 5, 2008 1:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Tom Owens was no stiff

maybe in todays game, but fantasy aside, Tom Owens wore the rose red and black with pride. I’d never dishonor Tom Owens like that. Tom in Hawaii yea maybe, and not before Tom Peterson, but definitely after Tom Owens.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

T.O.

You made me look, BOW4MEOW, and I stand corrected. Tom took over after Walton stormed out of town, and played 4 years from 77 to 81. The middle years he averaged 30 minutes, 14 to 18 ppg. Not too bad. He’s in the South Carolina Hall of Fame.

THE PURE AND SIMPLE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE AND NEVER SIMPLE -Oscar Wilde

(Bunburying in Portland)

by Bunburying08 on Jul 5, 2008 6:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tom Owens was traded to Indy

for the pick that became ….Sam Bowie.

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 5, 2008 8:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

Vote Sam Bowie as Greatest "Other" Blazer Ever.

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jul 7, 2008 12:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So it all ended up even...

Clearly, TPTB chose to take Bowie instead of Jordan to make that trade fair. Otherwise Blazer fans would have had to put up with everyone whining about how our team stole MJ for nothing more than Tom Owens.

by erastus25 on Jul 7, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually ....since Bowie was traded to NJ

Buck Williams….we should go over to Indy Cornrows and talk smack on how we got Buck Williams for nothing but Tom Owens.

They would probably say: “Who is Tom Owens?? In fact…..who is Buck Williams?”

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 7, 2008 3:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah but...

the Blazers also gave up the draft pick that become future all-star Mookie Blaylock.

by erastus25 on Jul 7, 2008 3:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Who is Mookie Blaylock?

Just kidding

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 7, 2008 4:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mookie Blaylock was a band out of Seattle in the late '80s

waiting patiently to see if anyone gets the joke

by erastus25 on Jul 7, 2008 4:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh those guys!

I thought you talking about someone good…..like the FooFighters

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 7, 2008 4:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

So it all ended up even...

Clearly, TPTB chose to take Bowie instead of Jordan to make that trade fair. Otherwise Blazer fans would have had to put up with everyone whining about how our team stole MJ for nothing more than Tom Owens.

by erastus25 on Jul 7, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Chris Dudley

may not be forgotten, but I always liked him

by sixth on Jul 5, 2008 3:36 PM PDT   0 recs

Duds

Had not Duds gone down with a terrible injury, that team might have had enough to contend for it all. Adelman had Dud’s pegged as his interior defender, rebounder (with Buck) and he was an underrated outlet passer (sometimes I thought he played like it was Hot Potato). With Jerome, Clyde and TP that team would have rocked.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I remember...

watching him walk off the court and think “oh, he’s walking, probably just a sprain”, and then learning the next day that his ankle was broken. Even as a kid it didn’t take me long to realize that the team was in trouble as he was the only real center they had.

by erastus25 on Jul 7, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

agree

dude had zero talent but managed to be a very useful NBA player.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 7, 2008 12:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rick Brunson!

Oh, man. I took my dad to a game in ‘98; I got us tickets for Christmas. Houston was in town, and it was going to be Clyde’s last (regular season) game in Portland.

However, that week events conspired to make that game a WHOLE lot more interesting. That was when Isiah Rider flipped out during a blowout against the Lakers, and then blamed the incident on his theory that black people were being lynched 40 miles out of Portland. This generated, oh, just a little bit of controversy in the local (and national) press.

Moreover, the Blazers made the Stoudamire trade either the day of the game or the day before, so the Blazer line-up was about nine deep since none of the new players had been cleared to play yet.

Some of you may remember that game-during the first half, at least, the crowd at the Garden booed Rider every time he touched the ball, and harder than I’ve ever heard a Blazer crowd boo anybody. In addition to that, the most sustained and heartfelt applause of the evening came when Clyde was introduced with Houston’s starters. It was one of the most priceless and bizarre moments in the history of the franchise, and my dad was endlessly amused by the spectacle. It was one of the best Christmas presents I’ve ever gotten him.

Meanwhile, even with a depleted line-up, the Blazers easily handled the aging Rockets line-up; Clyde had an off night, Hakeem was quite a ways off his brilliance of 1995, and Barkley played pretty well, to no avail. But Rick Brunson played his tail off that night, and was a key to a terrific effort by the Blazers (so, it must be admitted, was Rider, who played well enough that the fans quit booing him by the second half). Anyway, Rick Brunson played a prominent role in what may always be my most memorable live-action NBA experience.

by Modal Rounder on Jul 5, 2008 4:11 PM PDT   0 recs

Brian Grant

THE RASTA MONSTA!

I always felt he could have been better with more playing time.

Beaver believer!

by mannyfresh1 on Jul 5, 2008 4:37 PM PDT   0 recs

+1

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Jul 6, 2008 7:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+2

He was a joy to watch. Got his shot blocked a little too much for my liking though.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 7, 2008 12:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+3

RememberRastaMonsta!

I love that he could hit the freethrowline extended jumper and score points, but all he really cared about was rebounds and rebounds..

I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jul 7, 2008 5:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wally Who?

Wally Walker was drafted 1st round the year we won the Championship (following spring) and nobody here had ever heard of him. Sadly his only fame is from EngineerScotty’s excellent skewering of Sonics villains.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 5, 2008 4:44 PM PDT   0 recs

I even mentioned Audie Norris

what about Abdul Jelani, Lamont Strothers or Jeff Lamp for pete’s sake. Jeff Lamp?? If you dont know Jeff Lamp you aint a PTB diehard.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 4:53 PM PDT   0 recs

Couple of more guards -

Kelvin Ransey and T.R. Dunn - nearly forgotten, each had their moments.

THE PURE AND SIMPLE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE AND NEVER SIMPLE -Oscar Wilde

(Bunburying in Portland)

by Bunburying08 on Jul 5, 2008 7:08 PM PDT   0 recs

Wow

I miss James “Hollywood” Robinson

by Powder on Jul 5, 2008 8:11 PM PDT   0 recs

Kenny Anderson? No one?

by BRoyInThe4th on Jul 6, 2008 2:10 AM PDT   0 recs

Is no one going to mention...

Danny (slow release) Young?

"You don’t visit the coast, then ask where you could get some average seafood." -tominhawaii

by -ken on Jul 6, 2008 6:37 AM PDT   0 recs

hmmmph

guess this proves you don’t read my posts anymore. Sniff. (I beat you by almost 24 hours.)

"We will do nice things!" - Rudy, 07/01/08

by jorga on Jul 7, 2008 7:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, man...

I’m sorry. I looked up and down the posts and didn’t see the name. I’m going with the story that it was in teh heading, not the body and that’s why I missed it.

Just for the record, yours, among a select few others, are the posts I am sure to read.

"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma

by -ken on Jul 7, 2008 9:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sweet Sweet Jorga

Some people like to go out dancing
And other people like us, we gotta work
And theres even some evil mothers
Theyl’l tell you that life is just made out of dirt
And women never really faint
All the villains always blink their eyes
That children are the only ones who blush
And life is just to die

Anyone who ever had a heart
And wouldn’t turn around and break it
Anyone who ever played a part
And wouldn’t turn around and hate it

Sweet Jorga
Sweet Jorga
Sweet Jorga

"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment

by tominhawaii on Jul 7, 2008 9:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, Man?

“Man?” I guess I’ll have to learn to accept that as non-gender specific. (I often say “guys” to mixed groups or even just women.) I once pointed out an error in Eric M’s Blazer Blog and he replied “Thanks, man” and I informed him that not all his readers were male. Maybe I was the one who mad the wrong assumption.

But yes, I figured you hadn’t noticed the subject line, and had it been anyone but you I would have just let it go. Probably. I might have zinged Dave or Rastabird or someone else I’ve known a long time.

"We will do nice things!" - Rudy, 07/01/08

by jorga on Jul 7, 2008 10:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

In this case...

It’s not so much non-gender specific as not person specific. Sort of like saying, “Oh, crap.” But of course I would never say that. :)

Zing me any time you like.

"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma

by -ken on Jul 7, 2008 2:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kenny Carr?

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 6, 2008 9:05 AM PDT   0 recs

oops, sorry

looks like Kenny and most everyone else has been spoken for…. I think…

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 6, 2008 9:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kiki Vandeweghe

I didnt see that name up there. I still say that was a good trade, Kiki’s first game as a Trail Blazer he went nuts for like 40. Sure giving up Fat Lever was tough but still worth it.

"Meow" --- My cat Bonzi on whether or not Travis Outlaw is a core member of the PTB.

by bow4meow on Jul 6, 2008 9:13 AM PDT   0 recs

Especially since we still had (or about to have) TP

"Some of Dave’s greatest gifts are unanswered posts."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 6, 2008 11:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mitchell Butler's shot

I remember he once attempted a shot from the baseline against the L*kers and it hit the side of the backboard.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jul 6, 2008 1:27 PM PDT   0 recs

On another note...Chalres Smith?

He was our starting shooting guard at the beginning of Nate’s first season as coach. Yup, I remember that…game.

A couple other notables:
Matt Caroll
Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje
Slavko Vranes
Desmond Fergusen
Eddie Gill
Omar Cook

and the rest of the crappy players we brought in at the end of the jail blazers era

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jul 6, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Jeremy Richardson a bit ago

Jaren Jackson
Nikita Morgunov sat on IR for a whole season a couple years back. Does that count?

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Jul 6, 2008 3:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

and Gary Grant

how could I forget?

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Jul 6, 2008 3:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry for so many posts at one...but Joe Klein!

I remember my dad took me and my friends to the Blazer open scrimmage to start the 99-2000 season, and the entire time my dad was yelling “get the ball to Klein!” It even got Joe laughing at one point during the game.
Great thread.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jul 6, 2008 1:31 PM PDT   0 recs

I can't believe nobody's mentioned...

“The Buddha” James Edwards!

by erastus25 on Jul 6, 2008 9:07 PM PDT   0 recs

Didn't James go on the IR for gas-related issues?

It was, obviously, the front office’s creative way of juggling the roster. If so, it might also be the single bit of evidence I can recall that showed Bob Whitsitt indeed possessed a sense of humor (oh wait-he did vouch for Shawn Kemp with a straight face).

by Modal Rounder on Jul 7, 2008 7:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Did I miss something?

Who is Ruben Nembhard? The OP listed him, but I have no recollection of him with the Blazers. Was he like Nikita Morgunuv and Bill Curley (who hasn’t been mentioned yet!) and didn’t play a game as a Blazer?

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jul 7, 2008 12:32 AM PDT   0 recs

played a few games in 96 or 97

was a ten day contract guy, kind of like Jeremy Richardson or Kaniel Dickens.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Jul 7, 2008 8:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Speaking for my grandson:

Luke Schenscher. He always mentions “that redheaded guy” – and he’s not talking about Bill Walton.

"We will do nice things!" - Rudy, 07/01/08

by jorga on Jul 7, 2008 7:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Just realized I forgot to mention Ha

the ugliest Blazer of them all.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Jul 7, 2008 8:29 AM PDT   0 recs

ill sell you his autograph for 6 schillings

Vote Sam Bowie as Greatest "Other" Blazer Ever.

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jul 7, 2008 12:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ha scored 13 points in a game once

proof: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=250420022

Was that the worst Blazer lineup ever to beat the Lakers- Ha, Outlaw (who stunk then), Web (ditto), Bassy (ditto) and Viktor all played big minutes.

Here are some other recent awful Blazer lineups:

Here’s to not seeing a lineup that bad wear scarlett and black for many, many years.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 7, 2008 12:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

also in that first box score

another forgotten Blazer, Richie Frahm

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Jul 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs