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Darius works out for the Celtics

I couldn't believe it when I read it.

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1104957

Will we have to wait all summer to find out if someone's going to take a risk?  Seems to me that he would be a last resort type of player.  One that a team would look at after striking out in FA.  I don't think the defending champs will be left out in the cold during FA.  This worries me.

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wtf

that is not good new, althoe I think your probably right. I think not being wanted in portland might go a long way to not being wanted. they might just be extending him the courtousy of letting him workout.

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by ptwnblzr on Jul 4, 2008 11:04 AM PDT   0 recs

suddenly after reading that

I have the fealling that a team has to invite a player to practise, that its not really like an open gym at all. if anyone know this for sure, pleas elaborate

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by ptwnblzr on Jul 4, 2008 11:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't bet on it.

Don’t you think that all the talk of being Pritchslapped- especially when it comes to Danny Ainge basicallly giving us Roy for Telfair, don’t you think he might think it worth the cost of two 10 day contracts and some garbage minutes in ten games to spit a 20 million dollar loogie into KP’s soup?

by raoulduke on Jul 4, 2008 11:11 AM PDT   0 recs

Minimum of 20 games

10 for his suspension, 10 to ‘stick it’ to the Blazers.

That’s at least a month and a half you have to carry Darius instead of someone else. At least a month and a half you have to pay him. At least a month and half you have to put up with his antics. At least a month and a half to watch opposing players blow by him because his knees won’t allow him to play adequate defense.

by Storyteller on Jul 4, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

team still pays

i believe the money goes to charity or something like that

by douglast on Jul 4, 2008 11:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

plus

if he get injured during those 20 games his contract becomes guaranteed.

by RipCity on Jul 4, 2008 12:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point there ...

Now that the 10 day suspension would have to come before a team could play him in any games, a team would certainly have to offer more the 2 10-day contracts. And isn’t that the limit? Doesn’t a salary become guaranteed if a player is offered another contract AFTER those 2 10-day contracts? If a team could get him in and play him without paying too much, maybe. But it they have to guarantee a whole season’s salary, I find it highly unlikely he’ll ever reach those 10 games.

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by bfan on Jul 4, 2008 12:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This seems like something worthwhile to invetigate

But I have no idea how to do that. I do know that we are the hottest up and coming NBA team. If another team could put us in a salary cap bind for a couple of years (and make us miss our free agency window in ‘09) by signing that guy for a short term contract, well, if I was another team I certainly would do exactly that. A month and a half of sending a rook to the D-league certainly seems like a worthwhile trade-off to me. The Celtics if they had a grudge, any division team or any team who is looking to turn their fortunes around the next couple of years (the Bulls perhaps?) would be likely candidates.

by einman77 on Jul 6, 2008 1:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh

Ainge better not pull some shady crap. That would make him a huge a-hole if here to sign Darius and play, because that to me would signal that he’s just doing it to screw with Portland’s salary. No other reason, ESPECIALLY after he was suspended 10 games for drug violation.

by damir on Jul 4, 2008 11:11 AM PDT   0 recs

I think Darius would make a perfect replacement for James Posey as the Celts embark on their quest to repeat. He’s a perfect “culture” fit, and will give Bill Simmons plenty of fodder for stories.

[/sarcasm]

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by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 7, 2008 10:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wouldn't worry

Allan Houston tried to come back last summer after being cut for medical reasons. Initially, teams were impressed because he performed better than they expected. But in the end, his body was unable to play on an NBA level, so nobody signed him (even to ‘stick it’ to the Knicks). I think that Darius’ story will be similar.

by Storyteller on Jul 4, 2008 11:15 AM PDT   0 recs

Allen Houston was also in his mid to upper 30's

We better make whatever moves we think we are going to make now, before this ends up handicapping us later.

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by silkybrown on Jul 4, 2008 11:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Moves?

You want KP to make moves based on a Miles workout? No Way!!! Unless Ainge is prepared to offer Miles a vet’s minimum contract (approx $1 mil) and of course a roster spot, there’s absolutely no need to panic. With Miles’ 10 game suspension and the need to play 10 games in ‘08-’09 he needs a guaranteed vet’s contract, not the maximum two 10 day contracts allowed by the NBA (Ainge would need to play him every game of his second 10 day contract for that to work).

If Ainge signed Miles to two 10 day contracts (and played a guy who’s knee is in such bad shape that he was medically retired) for 10 consecutive games, he would then either have to cut him or sign him for the remainder of the season. If Ainge cuts him, he looks real “low rent” to other GMs, and if he signs him he wastes a roster spot for the sake of spite. It’s a no win situation for Ainge to pull something like this. He’s got better things to spend his time and the owner’s money on.

by fat27 on Jul 4, 2008 2:56 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

That first sentence makes

you sound suspiciously freethinking. Kudos. If not I was never here and this comment never happened.

by Junior Del Norte on Jul 4, 2008 3:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I am, you were and it did. ;0

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by annthefan on Jul 4, 2008 4:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He's a complete Jerk !

I’ve met three people who knew him in High School at
North Eugene. All, including a friend said he is a jerk
and an egomaniac. Celts & KG won their championship,
now it’s time for the Black & Red Dynasty !

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jul 5, 2008 1:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not based on a work out.

All I’m saying is that if it looks like Darius is going to be thrown back onto our books, if it is still possible at that point, we need to make whatever moves we need to before his cap number prevents us from doing so. It may not even matter, because if Darius does play this year, then it will affect our free agency next year.

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by silkybrown on Jul 4, 2008 4:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

i don't think

anyone thought last year’s knicks needed ‘sticking it’ to.

by DominicanAvenger on Jul 4, 2008 6:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Additionally

Even if he did come back..it would only limit KP options in FA (of which I am dubious anyway). We could still trade the RLEC for a player of equivilent salary. The only real effect in my mind is that PA would have to pay lux tax.

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 4, 2008 11:37 AM PDT   0 recs

If Ainge does this he should be investigated.

Of all the teams in the league that don’t need to add any talent or players the Celtics are at the top. If he does this it would be purely to F with Portland. It seems Ainge and Simmons have a virtual vendetta against Portland after Telfair/Roy and then not getting Oden. Eveyone with a grain of sense knows it was Ainge who spread those rumors about the red dot on Oden’s knee. Ainge didn’t even look happy when his Franken-team won the championship, I don’t think he feels joy anymore…

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by Idog1976 on Jul 4, 2008 11:53 AM PDT   0 recs

Franken-team!

I love it! Did you just make that up? It fits the C’s perfectly. Would that make Ainge Egor? The one who pulled the switch. “Yes, Master.”

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by RebelRogue on Jul 4, 2008 3:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't blame Boston a bit.

My understanding is that if Darius plays 10 + games in 2 years, then his entire salary goes back on our books. In the meantime, I don’t think Boston would have to pay much of it, if anything at all. Boston, or any other team, doesn’t have anything to lose…except a roster spot and perhaps some attitude issues.

I said it before, but the smartest thing any of our Western Conference rivals could do is to sign Darius. It might not be the most ethical thing to do, but if you can step on your competition’s throat you ought to…otherwise they will eventually step on yours.

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by silkybrown on Jul 4, 2008 11:55 AM PDT   0 recs

But it must be kept in mind

that it wouldn’t slam the door on all possible moves…..it just restricts them somewhat. The RLEC still has the same (or most of the same) value on the market as far as trades go.

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 4, 2008 12:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

It seems like every team would at least want to work Darius out because they have nothing to lose. Assuming he checks out, If we could sign a guy that someone else would have to pay for, why wouldn’t we do it?

On another note, I know that Darius is considered on par with everything evil, but why would he consistently claim he was ready and could play all year last year if he couldn’t. To me it seemed a little shady of the Blazers to declare for him that he had a career ending injury. Yes I know it was an independent doctor, but you can’t be so naive that you believe the Blazers couldn’t find an independent doctor who would say what they wanted him to say.

by MavetheGreat on Jul 4, 2008 2:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The NBA finds the doc

And ZERO players in the history of the NBA have come back from medical retirement. The docs don’t go “oh, I guess it might hurt a little if he plays”. The independent docs put on the case by the NBA determine if the injury is so bad that it won’t ever be in a NBA shape again. This doc said Darius would have to get his entire knee replaced by his 30’s if he kept playing on it, and maybe even if he doesn’t.

If there was any hint of conspiracy, the player’s union would be all over this.

This won’t really affect us even if Darius, by some miracle, becomes the first player to ever come back, because it takes two seasons to determine whether he is ‘ok’ now and for the money to go back on our books, and he’s gotta play 10 games in one of them. By then, we’ll have determined our cap space stuff (and I’m sure someone like Storyteller will point out the ways I am incorrect there, but that’s my basic understand).

AND EVEN THEN, the money doesn’t automatically come back on our books, because it will be reviewed and arbitrated and whatnot, and as the NBA agreed the knee was kapoot, I’m sure nothing will happen.

Darius is still really young, so why wouldn’t a team take a shot on him? It doesn’t hurt to work him out. He’s what, 26?

Also, 10 day contracts are not 10 GAME contracts, and 20 games is about 2 months sometimes. 1/4 of a season (since he will have to be on a roster and being paid for the 10 games he is suspended for, and let’s say he doesn’t get caught again) is a long time. For a team trying to win like the Celtics, Darius will have to be good and actually ok for them to play him.

I don’t think Darius is evil, and his injury made me a sad boy. However, just because he says he is ready doesn’t make it so. Darius was always saying how he was turning over a new leaf, the new Darius was gonna show up; Darius said a lot of stuff. If he could have played, people would have seen him play. To automatically assume there is some conspiracy is in itself naive.

Not all of this is directly responding to Mavethegreat, just throwin’ my two cents in.

If Darius can somehow become healthy enough to come back, I’d be very, very happy for him. Losing a young career to injury is a big tragedy in the realm of athletics. If he does come back, we have the NBA’s decision on our side plus the different doctors who all agreed that the knee’s injury was beyond repair for NBA play. We’ll be ok no matter what happens, and we’d be just fine if Darius has actually changed his entire personality and became a hard working player obsessed with getting back in the NBA.

Does anyone think, sadly, that Darius has it in him? I’d love to be wrong, and don’t mind him playing elsewhere.

I don’t think it’ll bite us in the rear either way.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 4, 2008 2:33 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Thanks

for the clarification on the ‘NBA picks the doc’ aspect. That wasn’t the way it sounded in the Oregonian, etc. when this all went down a couple months ago.

True enough that Darius was always saying something, and it never really came to anything, but like you I don’t want his story to end that way.

I don’t assume a conspiracy, but I also don’t assume everything is as it seems.

by MavetheGreat on Jul 4, 2008 2:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Trust no one.

The best advice ever to come from the X-Files. If you always assume the worst, it’s possible you may be pleasantly surprised. I think life itself is a conspiracy.

"...and that loud noise you hear coming is the Portland Trailblazers." - Charles Barkley

by RebelRogue on Jul 4, 2008 3:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think KP is an alien.

What he’s accomplished is “out of this world.”

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by RebelRogue on Jul 4, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's true, it often isn't simple as it seems...

But assuming that the Blazers knowingly cherry picked a ‘friendly’ doc to give them the outcome they want is kinda evil. That’s ending a young man’s career on purpose, just to get some MORE cap space when we were already set on having cap space.

Some are instantly jumping to shady, illegal dealings here and this whole process obviously took quite a long time to determine Miles’ physical ability. He hadn’t played for TWO YEARS at the time of his retirement. It’s not naive to assume there is more to the story than we’re being told, but it’s also not right to jump to a worst case scenario, KP and the Blazers conspiring together just to get rid of Darius.

Does Darius medically retiring help us out? Yes, very much so. Not only is he no longer a distraction, no fans or reporters asking anyone about him, we get his cap room for our cap space window. It still is a big jump from there, to thinking there is shadiness afoot, when there are so many hoops to jump through before a player can be called ‘unfit’ to play, medically.

To weasel through those would take a lot of help from the NBA, from random docs, and from the players union, and I think expecting all of that to join together just to end Darius Miles’ career is naive.

There is probably a lot more or even a lot LESS to what Ainge is doing, and it possibly has nothing to do with us. Nothing mean on his end, just working out a young kid who came back from injury, ala Allan Houston. Everyone always looks good in workouts also, and no one hurts someone’s chances on getting a deal from someone else (or pissing off that player’s agent, and Miles has a big time one don’t he?) by saying that player played poorly.

Hell, we worked out Doug Christie last summer, but I don’t think we intended on signing him.

Again, not all of this is directed at MavetheGreat, and I don’t think it’s wrong to try to dig deeper with what’s going on.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 4, 2008 3:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It's interesting that so many people seem to want to attribute shady dealings to the Blazers lately.

What’s that about? Maybe just that we can’t believe in our recent good luck and look for negatives to offset it. I dunno.

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by annthefan on Jul 4, 2008 3:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

And I’m not trying to pin anything on KP, or suggest a conspiracy, but at the same time anyone who has been around for the last 4 years is aware of the roller coaster the public image of teh Blazers have been. I guess a medical retirement by the last remaining symbol of the Jail Blazers made me wonder a bit.

by MavetheGreat on Jul 4, 2008 3:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That, plus I just discovered

that KP has hired Jeff Gillooly and Shawn Eckardt as special assistants.

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by MiledAnimal on Jul 5, 2008 9:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Shawn Eckart is dead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Eckhardt

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 5, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

KP is even more masterful than I thought

The league will never suspect that Shawn Eckart did it then.

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by silkybrown on Jul 5, 2008 5:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Is Eckart a zombie?

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by Lizzy Lowblow on Jul 5, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That's my 1st guess

And that’s what I said just now in the recent Junk Drawer, in response to Bayless having a BAYLESS tattoo. It’s like we’re TRYING to find something wrong, because we just can’t believe how good things have been lately.

And really, there has been ZERO bad news or missteps since, oh, KP took over. Aside from Oden going down, which I think is Nash and Patterson’s fault anyways.

Trying to attribute shady/illegal/unethical dealings to KP, to Paul Allen, when there is no evidence to suggest it, is odd right now when they’ve done nothing but good stuff lately. I think we feel insecure when things are so good and are trying to take a step back with the love for the Blazers that they’ve been expressing, to avoid feeling like they are blind homers who can’t see the evil in front of them.

Of course, there is no evil in front of them, and things appear to be exactly as they appear to be. Miles’ knee was in horrible shape and would eventually need to be replaced, Bayless IS as advertised and is a nice kid and not a meglomaniac who is going to destroy the team, and KP did well in the draft and didn’t lie to another team.

IF ANY OF THOSE WERE TRUE, we’d hear about it somewhere. All of these things helped us, but we got them through talented GMing or good/back luck (good luck for the franchise, bad luck for Miles—though he still gets paid). It’s not everyone, but there are a lot of hints from some peoples here who suggest there HAS to be something shady and underhanded going on…

I don’t get it. I think they just need some real basketball to watch.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 4, 2008 3:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I have to agree with MavtheGreat.

Pritchard is the trickiest GM in the league (I mean that in a good way). How can you take anything he says at face value? The Darius Miles thing seemed a little too convenient for a guy who could still run and dunk.

As far as Bayless goes, I didn’t like him before he became a Blazer. He always seemed like a very selfish player who happened to be extremely talented. His lame tattoo is just another thing that makes me nervous. Does having your name tattooed on your back automatically make you a narcissistic idiot? I guess not, but it doesn’t help. I would love to love Jerryd Bayless. Hopefully I am proven wrong. If he doesn’t work out maybe KP can get him medically retired for having debilitatingly short small arms. Just kidding.

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by Winchester on Jul 4, 2008 5:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Touche

I wanted to make some of these jokes as well, but I didn’t in fear someone would think I really thought poorly of Pritchard. I mean come on Mort, can’t we play a little bit

I don’t share your pessimism about Bayless, but that’s mostly because I don’t think he’ll ever be an essential part of the team. If he pans out, great. If not, oh well we won’t need him to be successful.

by MavetheGreat on Jul 4, 2008 7:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

True.

It’s all gravy anyway. He was a steal at #11 even if he does have some attitude problems.

Do I know you in real life? Are you friends with a guy named brainfart?

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on Jul 4, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brainfart?

You better believe it. A fella that for some reason uses that alias is my roommate. However I’m not sure I know you. You a buddy of his from Medford?

by MavetheGreat on Jul 4, 2008 9:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes.

Did I ever play basketball with you on Monday nights?

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on Jul 4, 2008 11:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah

Yes, probably so. Did you usually come with Tom decked out in headbands, short shorts and 70s tank tops?

by MavetheGreat on Jul 5, 2008 9:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes.

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on Jul 5, 2008 5:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Shady doc? No

According to the Oregonian, the doctor was selected jointly by the league and the players association.

by fat27 on Jul 4, 2008 3:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

cherry picking a Doctor?

I happen to know the Doctor the PTB chose and his reputation is rock solid.

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by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 8:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahahaha

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by annthefan on Jul 5, 2008 3:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hello

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by Lizzy Lowblow on Jul 5, 2008 5:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hi Dr Nick!

Thanks L dubelay.

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by bow4meow on Jul 5, 2008 5:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hi, Dr. Nick!

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by timbo on Jul 5, 2008 9:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jul 5, 2008 1:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice

You really have a way of changing perspectives. I’m pulling for him now. Another shining post there Mort.

by einman77 on Jul 6, 2008 2:00 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Celts were impressed

According the Boston Globe via HoopsWorld his workout was “impressive”

HW’s Jason Fleming goes into some detail including “Something here smells fishy. What is not detailed is exactly what “impressive” means…” and he talks about ramifications for the Blazers.

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by jorga on Jul 4, 2008 11:55 AM PDT   0 recs

Well they worked out Miles, Kirk Synder, and David Harrison. And it says in the article they are bringing dead weight Patrick O’Byrant. To me the Celtics are taking an honest look at some players that other teams have passed on and seeing if any of them call help will the void left by Posey. Why not look at Miles? With at locker room as strong as the one the Celtics have you’d have to believe they’d be able to curb some of Miles behavioral issues.

I should note I like Miles. I’ve alway been a little sad that he lacked the work effort and discipline to utilize his talents. I’ve always felt that he was made out to be the scape goat a lot of the time in the media which has always bothered me. I’d like to see Miles get a second chance somewhere to prove me right.

With that said, I really hope that doesn’t happen in the next two years. I like cap space.

by Mash on Jul 4, 2008 12:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Dont worry guys

A few things:

1. Nobody has ever been able to come back from a career ending injury, thats why they call it a career ending injury. I find it difficult to believe that if a league independant doctor would find that Miles’ knee was bad enough to declare that it was career ending, ANY team doctor would declare him fot to play.

If that did happen, I would ask the league doctor to come in and examine the knee and have him have final say over whether or not the knee is fit or not and let him, not the Bos doctor, have the final say on whether he can pass the physical. Having a league doctor oversee the physical will ensure that no funny business is going on.

2. Having one good workout, a season does not make. Lets say that he did look good in a workout, do you actually think Miles could get through a training camp and make the physical requirement tests? Highly doubtful. He will probably break down a week or so before the season and not be able to come back.

3. We just need him to not play this season as once the season is over, as we will still have his cap space to sign a FA. If Miles comes back in the 09-10 season, we will still have the FA signed with Miles cap space, but his salary will go back on the books retroactively, but too late to keep us from having signed said FA. We will be on the hook for the salary and the luxury tax, but PA has not shied from paying the LT.

As I said before don’t worry.

by SpyderRyder on Jul 4, 2008 12:32 PM PDT   0 recs

There is always a first time though

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by silkybrown on Jul 4, 2008 4:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

the plot thickens

maybe they are hiring darius to push paul pierce’s wheelchair?

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by Ben. on Jul 4, 2008 12:57 PM PDT   0 recs

Darius the Pusher!!!

Stop the presses!!! (or the electrons in the case of web based media outlets)

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 4, 2008 1:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The whole rule seems kind of weird to me.

An independant doctor hired by the NBA can say a player has a career ending injury and the NBA will take the salary off the books, but another team can sign him, play him in ten games, and the NBA puts the salary back on. Weren’t they the ones who said he was unfit to play?

@('.')@

by JTDuck22 on Jul 4, 2008 1:13 PM PDT   0 recs

so does he need to be available to play?

does he have to be on the 12 man game day roster? Or does he just have to be on the 15 player roster in a suit on order to have his 10 games count?

by parkinglotj on Jul 4, 2008 1:28 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm thinking he has to log minutes.

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by bfan on Jul 4, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

he has to actually play

not sit.

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by mark twain on Jul 4, 2008 1:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Someone send in a "Cooler!"

Quick!! We need to hire an undercover Cooler to get Miles to start smoking, drinking, and acting stupid again. Or maybe we’ll luck-out, the Knicks will pick him up, and Miles and Randolf can go mess things up in Times Square together.

Don’t let Captain Wobble-knee play again!!

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by Dr. Deal on Jul 4, 2008 2:33 PM PDT   0 recs

sorry I ment the suspended games

does the team have to hold a spot open for him on the roster and go into a game with only 11 players ready to play?

by parkinglotj on Jul 4, 2008 2:35 PM PDT   0 recs

Prolly not

He’d be suspended and on the inactive roster for 10 games, but he’d still be paid for it (or, the pay goes to the NBA which in turn goes to charitable deeds, such as the murder of Seattle fans childhood).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 4, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs