Assemble Your Own Blazer Team Day 4: Shooting Guards
by Dave on Jul 31, 2008 10:39 PM PDT
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PrintHere we are on Day 4 of the "Build Your Own Blazer Team" exercise...halfway through. If you're not sure yet what's going on, just scroll down through the earlier entries and start picking your team. To recap briefly:
Today you get to choose between three shooting guards (again, remembering that Clyde is injured and won't be available for this exercise at all). They are: Geoff Petrie, Lionel Hollins, and Brandon Roy.
Select your player in the comment section below and give us an idea of why you picked the guy you did. Have fun!
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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I'll take Roy
even though Petrie has had better shooting numbers though very comparable. Roy has slightly better assists and great leadership qualities. And frankly I really like him and watching his game. Petrie is a close second. And I really don’t know much about Hollins, but his stats are humble in comparison. So my all defense team has Roy to go with Pip, Lucas and Oden.
Brandon Roy
Although Petrie was the very first Blazer and ROY and was the all time leeding scorer until Clyde. And that the L-train was a perfect fit for the championship team I have to go with Brandon.
There’s no doubt that Roy is something special. He is so desceptively creative. I’ve seen him do things that very few people could even imagine. Just imagine when we look back on these years and say we were there to see this future HOF’er (IMO) play.
Current Lineup
C- Sabas
PF- Buck
SF- Kersey
SG- Roy
D Marty
I'll take B-Roy.
He has the potential to be the best Blazer EVER. Perhaps someday he will be remembered as better than Clyde Drexler, who has been DQed from this feature because it would be such an obvious victory.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
Also:
Drexler is injured, right? That means he’s on everybody’s teams, but he’s on the inactive list, doesn’t it?
I mean, it seems logical to me…
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Aug 1, 2008 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Roy
His 2nd year numbers are very competitive with the best years of the others. My team is looking good, but outside shooting could be a problem. I’ll have to remedy that in the last few picks.
C- Oden
PF- Buck
SF- Pip
SG- Roy
Yes, I am too young to remember the 77 team but I’m still very comfortable with my picks.
Boomshakalaka
I'm tempted...
...to go with Petrie, really really tempted….but since he was before my time and I can’t really lay claim to much first hand impression as to his play for us, I’ll just take the lob pitch and go with Brandon. I figure if I making a mistake, how bad can it be with Brandon Roy? That’s an excellent mistake to make. Brandon.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
Brandon Roy in a kinda close race
Petrie is a worthwhile choice here. The fact that he wasn’t on a winning team, or that he retired one year before the team won a title, did not work against him. Sometimes those are the breaks, and aren’t reflective of your work.
Hollins was a SG on a championship team. But he was on a team where other positions were significantly more important. Replace Hollins with an average shooting guard during that period, and there’s a good chance they’re still champions.
So far, after two years, Brandon Roy has shown the poise of a veteran, and his early abilities/skills are reflective of some of the best modern SG’s. And he’s notoriously dedicated to getting himself better each offseason, and inspires the same in his teammates. He’s the leader you hope a good SG can be. And he’s only played two years. He wins on his promise.
Gotta be Roy.
B Rizzle!
I don’t know much of anything about Petrie besides he was a good shooter. I actually thought he was our SG on the championship team for his last year,which i guess is wrong because he left the year before. Roy can do all and is a player you cant pass up. I can sing his praises for days but you guys already know whats up wit him.
I would have picked him over Drexler
Really. Brandon Roy.
C Walton
PF Lucas
SF Kersey
SG Roy
by jc burg on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
......
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
I'll differ from everyone
I think Brandon is going to be a better all-round player, without a doubt. But I want to PUNISH teams that double down on Oden and Lucas, which is why I went with Kiki at SF. And Petrie would have put a world of hurt on teams for doing that. He could light a team up for 50 points, a lot of which came on great outside shooting, and they didn’t even have the 3 pointer back then. With a 3 point line, his numbers would have been even more awesome.
Yes, I’ll take Geoff. With Geoff, Kiki, and a great PG who can shoot (everyone knows who that will be) to spread the floor, our guys down low will own anyone. And I’m not going to need Brandon to run the offense, because I’m going to have one of the best PGs of all time doing that, a guy whose number will be retired very soon.
It’s not always about the best player, sometimes it is about the best fit for your team. If I get Oden and Lucas on my front line, and I know I’m going to be drafting TP soon at PG, I want Petrie.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Better hope the big guys block everything
Because every guard and SF in the league is going to drive right around perimeter you’ve set up, for mid-range or closer shots. I had to take Kersey for his defense over Kiki.
Having Kiki and Geoff playing the role of the Suns on the outside, while Luke and Oden play the role of the Spurs on the inside is interesting (so I appreciate the ideas in your comment). I’m just worried they won’t mesh on the court.
Petrie's defense
wasn’t that bad. It isn’t as if Roy is a great defender, he’s decent but not great. I’ll give you your point on Vandeweghe, the guy didn’t/couldn’t defend.
Porter will be the glue that makes the offense click, as well as helping spread the court and being the guy who hits the clutch shots at the end of game. Maurice was pretty clutch, too, and so was Geoff.
And I do think Greg is going to block a lot of shots, especially when our perimeter guys funnel drivers towards him.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Roy...
Petrie had too short a career, and he and Roy are clearly more “all around” players than Hollins.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
It's a shame we can't count Petrie's potential for this era
Back then, NBA’ers weren’t paid as well so early retirements were more common. In today’s NBA, odds are Geoff would have played to his late 30’s.
-Tim
Cool - I've got Luke and Greg and Jerome and now Roy!
I’ve watched all of them and loved all of them but Roy is really special. A good blend of old and new.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
Petrie or Roy ????
If I don’t take Roy I may not have any current Blazers on my team.
Petrie, with todays 3 pt line, would be a great player to have.
Brandon would also be a great player to have.
Both were R.O.Y.
But after what Brandon did at the allstar game. WOW!!!
So its Brandon Roy for my team.
Roy
Petrie was my basketball hero when I was a kid, but you know, I think I’d take Roy based on the intangibles. He makes the team click.
Portland's in love
with Roy and with good reason. Can you imagine Roy and Walton working together? The BB IQ would be through the roof.
Team LJ: Walton, Lucas, Kersey, Roy.
Still looking for some solid outside shooting. Drazen off the bench?
Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)
Roy
C – Walton
PF – Lucas
SF – Pippen
SG – Roy
I like the ball movement my team will have with Walton, Pippen and Roy, without sacrificing any rebounding punch.
Another easy choice for me - Roy
Greg Oden
Buck Williams
Jerome Kersey
Brandon Roy
Terry Porter
I’m not waiting for the choices for PG. That position is also a slam dunk for me.
(Note to Dave: You needed to put Duckworth at Center and include Sabonis as one of the backup choices. In fact he’s going to be my backup. Rules are made to be broken. If I get caught, you can take away my draft picks for the next 4 years.)
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
........Thomas Jefferson
The most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the
government and I'm here to help.' "
- Ronald Reagan
Easiest Choice So Far: Brandon
I have to plead some ignorance on this one because I’m just not that familiar with the details of Lionel Hollins’ game and I know Geoff Petrie from behind the microphone and GM desk, not raining 3s down on the comp. By default then, I choose Roy. This pick is easy because, talent aside, the leadership factor is huge here. Also, I have the utmost confidence that Roy could fit into virtually any lineup. He’s that unselfish, creative, and hard working to contribute in whatever way needed. The team I’m creating will need his outside shooting to become perfected along with continuing his willingness to drive to the hoop.
Roy
Clutch in the fourth, willing to defer when necessary, learning to move without the ball (essential with Walton in the post) and a leader.
Walton
Lucas
Kersey
Roy
What fun!
Brandon!
Plays through the flu like nothing.
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Roy for sure.
His game is buttery smooth.
If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes fit in a doghouse? None! Ice cream has no bones!
Roy
Another tough choice. All three are great players and had great stats with the Blazers. But Roy gives me speed, shooting, rebounding, and defense. I can’t go past a future hall of famer!
C- B,Walton
PF- B. Williams
SF- J. Kersey
SG- B. Roy
Roy
Brandon gets the edge for me not because of what he’s done (not yet greater than Petrie), but what lies ahead.
C – Sabonis
PF – Lucas
SF – Vandeweghe
SG – Roy
Roy!
Brandon and Walton on the floor at the same time!! We’re talking about some heavy duty basketball IQ here. There may be no need for a passing point guard with these two. Porter would probably be perfect with them.
So far: Walton, Buck, Kiki, and Roy. I’m beginning to salivate all over myself.
I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I
Gross!
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
........Thomas Jefferson
The most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the
government and I'm here to help.' "
- Ronald Reagan
He was a small forward, not SG
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Ha, ha, ha! It took me awhile jscot. That was good!
I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I
Took me a second also.
Pretty good.
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
........Thomas Jefferson
The most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the
government and I'm here to help.' "
- Ronald Reagan
Is the quality of a joke
measured by how long it takes to get it?
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Roy
So far:
Bill Walton
Buck Williams
Jerome Kersey
Brandon Roy
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
Roy in a landslide. My team (the Blazerholics):
Greg Oden
Maurice Lucas
Jerome Kersey
Brandon Roy
Koponen - PG of the future. Book it.
Brandon Roy
He is already well underway to overtake the other two guys in ca. 5 seasons in terms of scoring, even rebounding. Geoff Petrie’s career was short. And at least Hollins was a pretty bad three point shooter (I suppose their was no three point line during Petrie’s career. Either that or the stats were lost or he too was horrible).
Oden
Lucas
Kiki
Roy
Odenied: Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
Broy for sure
Oden
Lucas
Kersey
Roy
I need some good outside shooting now. Defensively I think I’m going to shut down most teams and scoring wise, all my team can score.
I’m happy, but I am sensing a little imbalance. Lucas will be replaced with Aldridge in the starting line up. I’m not sure who’ll I’ll take at the point guard position. I don’t know that Porter is a good mix with Roy. I guess I’ll check out the stats and see.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I am going to pick BRoy, but...
I am worried about how it will work having him and Terry Porter (My PG – Duh?) competing for the number 1 leadership role.
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!
Brandon
Wish I could say I mulled this over, but I gotta have him on my team. Even over Drex if he hadn’t been sidelined with a papercut.
Oden
Buck
Kiki
RoyScout
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Aug 1, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, it still makes me giggle like a (something that giggles) when I see it
I forgot about the Thagomizer. Thanks!
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Gandhi
"Throw Thag, throw. Throw throw throw throw throw throw"- Far Side
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Aug 2, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW, Dave...
I’m really hoping I can still include L-Train (that’s Hollins to you young whippersnappers) as a bench player.
This team needs Petrie
Lionel Hollins and Terry Porter are my 2 all-time favorite Blazers and I love Brandon Roy, but this team needs a better shooter and Petrie is it.
Walton
Lucas
Kersey
Petrie
Roy
His BB IQ is to high to even consider Train or Petrie. As much as I loved their games. Roy wins this hands down.
Walton
Lucas
Kersey
Roy
Killer instinct. When you have your opponent down, you do not help them up. You step on their throat!!!!!!
by Misplaced Blazermaniac on Aug 1, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions
Drexler
Looks like having Drexler available may have been the only thing keeping this one from being so one sided, eh Dave?
Yes
And color me astonished. But I would hope that had Clyde been there it would have been as lopsided for him. At least this gives a big boost to a current young guy instead of just reminding everyone of the old days.
—Dave
Too many don't remember Petrie
And Train wasn’t good for us for long enough.
There’s a lot of homerism here, though. Brandon got ROY, had one MVP-type month, and a great all-star game, and suddenly he’s expected to have a better career than Drexler.
I understand choosing on potential, I did it myself with Oden. But Brandon only has the potential to be better than Petrie was. And he is far from being the shooter Petrie was. Geoff could really light it up.
If there had been a 3 point line, Petrie might have had a 30 ppg season.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
Brandon Roy
The guy can flat out ball! I think he has a good shot to be THE best blazer ever.
Aint nothin to it!
this one is tougher than it looks...
Skill wise, Petrie and Roy are pretty close, but when you factor in leadership, it pushes me over the edge. I am just another sheep in the herd, got to take Roy as my team leader and playmaker at the 2…. Sabas, Lucas, Kiki, Roy, not too shabby in my book….
RUDY > MJ
Petrie Today
Maybe Roy tomorrow.
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Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii
by Outlaw is Rejector on Aug 2, 2008 2:19 AM PDT reply actions
Guess i forgot to vote on PF?
My lineup would be…
C – Arvydas Sabonis
PF – Maurice Lucas
SF – Scottie Pippen
SG – Geoff Petrie
Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii
by Outlaw is Rejector on Aug 2, 2008 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The team
C-Walton-One of the best ever (short term)
pf-Buck-Defender-rebounder-team player
sf-Kiki-Could light it up
sg-Roy-great leadership
Brandon Roy
Will be an elite all around player, enough said.
Dose anyone remember the song 123 go Rip City?
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Aug 3, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions
Roy
Shaniqua don't live here no more... Is Shaniqua there, HELL NO!
by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 4, 2008 3:02 PM PDT reply actions
Roy
No offense to the older guys, but Roy is special and he wil only get better with experience. I would love to have Petrie’s shooting off the bench but if it comes at the expense of Roy…oh well.
Walton, Lucas, Kersey, Roy…
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Roy
I told my wife before he was drafted he would be one of the best players in the NBA.
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