When Bandon Does Play the Point..

by Rick D. on Jul 3, 2008 9:33 PM PDT Comment 46 comments

it would be interesting to see the Blazers go “BIG”.

Brandon may have to guard their PG, but in a lot of cases Brandon will dominate their PG,( when Blazers are on O.) so much, it will more than offset his opponent’s advantage on the other end.

Going “BIG” guarantees/insures the opponents’ PG has to guard Brandon.
(Maybe Brandon Posts him up, Maybe he backs him down with the dribble) Either way, Brandon ; Draws a double; Scores; Gets fouled; or both. He Kills their guy on the boards, all this while also physically “wearing him out” for 5-6 min.

By “BIG”, I’m thinking Martel, Frye, LA, and Greg or Joel. That’s a pretty big team.. But very versatile Athletes, on O and D
... Hi-Post offense; Post Brandon; Pick n Pop w/ Frye; Run Martel off some “mean Double Picks” and let the bigs go to the offensive glass, or finish Alley-Oops. (Take your pick)

Finally… You just Zone-up on D.
Protects Greg or Joel. (if its Joel, and someone does attempt to go to get to the rim, Joel gets to use one of his “Don’t Come In Here Fouls".
Lots of "Long Arms" in the Zone… Force tough, outside jumpers while Webster & Frye "Run-out" for Fast Breaks.

I think it could be effective at times… What do you Guys think?

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Brandon transcends the game

Brandon is not going to start at the point. That doesnt mean he wont a direct the offense a considerable amount of time. Brandon is such a special player, but to be the most effective, he needs to play the 2. Its nice because he can also play the 3. He’s the triumverant of the small court.

As to your defensive scheme, hard to say. Nate will make those calls from the sidelines and for the most part I trust him to do so at the correct times. If the PTB play alot of zone would there be any reason for Raef not to earn a few minutes?

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by bow4meow on Jul 3, 2008 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yes

wouldnt want to put RLEC in, too risky for that asset. We need him healthy and tradable come February.

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 3, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeessss my precious...

wwouuldn’t wants to hurrtt my precious.

by parkinglotj on Jul 3, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

why not play Raef

Raef is never going to make bank again. He’s just rotting the pine. I say just a few minutes at least to spot out Greg or Joel for a breather.

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by bow4meow on Jul 4, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh...I may be wrong

but the team who trades for the RLEC couldn’t care less if Raef is able to play. They would be trading for the expiring contract…not the player. He could have a compound fracture and he would still be just as valuable. So why not throw spot minutes at him if needed (he does have 6 fouls to give)

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 4, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

but he has to be able to play for the trade to go through, or at least i think he does

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by Zaron5551 on Jul 4, 2008 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually I don't think he does

Players have been traded when injured…..Shaq this past year comes to mind. He wasn’t able to play right away for the Suns.

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 4, 2008 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually the NBA has a rule against trading

players that are medically disabled so it might depend on how injured. This rule came in after Minnesota traded Terrell Brandon to Atlanta as cap relief even though Brandon was disabled and would not play again.

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by lee3022 on Jul 5, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Independent Doctor strikes again

I guess

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 5, 2008 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

unfortuanately

that would be interesting, but video game interesting. Nate is not about to pull an NBA JAMS and put the biggest people on the floor for a little entertainment.

would be funny to see a 3 guarding channing

by PippenAintEasy on Jul 3, 2008 9:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nate is more apt to go with 4 dwarves and Oden than a big lineup...

....................................... He seems to think Outlaw is a PF.

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by timbo on Jul 4, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that Brookings should play the point...

C – Astoria
PF – Cannon Beach
SF – Newport
SG – Bandon
PG – Brookings

Maybe have Port Orford, Seaside, and Lincoln City in the rotation as well. Florence will probably complain about playing time. If so, we made to trade him since he doesn’t really fit our “culture”

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by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 3, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs

Tillamook...

has got to be in the rotation somewhere. He is a crafty veteran who can provide a stabilizing presence.

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by jksnake99 on Jul 3, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and tasty cheese

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by WarEaglePDX on Jul 3, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think the lineup will be that good.

Everybody on it is 0 ft tall.

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by silkybrown on Jul 5, 2008 3:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't want to be there

when he cut the cheese!

by lee3022 on Jul 5, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Garibaldi can come in and bang at the 4

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by Junior Del Norte on Jul 3, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coos Bay gets the shaft

Coos needs the playing time to show what he can do, but the coach’s mancrush on Seaside is keeping him on the bench. I want to see what he can do running the floor when Depoe Bay comes over next year.

by abdelnaby on Jul 3, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coos Bay is overrated

Coos Bay just gets all the credit for finishing the break, but its North Bend doing all the dirty work to set it up.

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by Addicted to Quack on Jul 4, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Foreign prospects?

I hear that Ilwaco has a lot of touch around the basket but is kind of soft for a big man, and Aberdeen might be the most talented prospect, but money issues might keep him across the river.

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by GustyJ on Jul 3, 2008 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seattle is technically a 5, right?

Since he’s on the Sound which is an arm of the Pacific.
Seattle generally has trouble with finishing in traffic, though.

by royroty on Jul 4, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

On Talent Alone.........

We should pick up LBC (Long Beach, California) but major character issues, wouldn’t fit he culture. More like Locker Beach Cancer.

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by WarEaglePDX on Jul 4, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crescent City has been tearing it up

although the league they play in is pretty weak. Eureka has already stated that he won’t be coming over.

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by Addicted to Quack on Jul 4, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha Ha Ha you guys are priceless!

But why doesn’t Florence fit our culture? Is it because of his gambling problem? I hear Siletz has a gambling problem too, but he’s still a highly coveted prospect.

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by bilingual octopus on Jul 4, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, Florence doesn't handle pressure well

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by raoulduke on Jul 4, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is always a good reset

lol

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 4, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no love for manzanita?

come on!

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by Ben. on Jul 4, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Manzanita

I like him but I don’t think he’s ready yet. Probably going to the D-League this year.

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by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 4, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your starting lineup is horrible.

It’s keeps “going south” every game.

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by silkybrown on Jul 5, 2008 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Opt outs

I hear that Santa Barbara and Carmel can opt out of their contracts next year and become free agents. If so, I think KP will figure out a way to get at least one of them into a Blazer uniform.

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by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 5, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Channing, LMA, and Greg

is TOO big. Their SF would toast whoever was guarding him. Not even LMA can keep up with a SF.

If you want to go big, put Outlaw at the 3 with LMA and Oden. if Roy is at the point, put Martell at the 2. That way you can still be competitive defensively.

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by rmcdougall on Jul 3, 2008 10:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure we will see this lineup

in the regular season. Can’t wait.

by The Natural ala Mode on Jul 3, 2008 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yah

thats a more reasonable line up that will get minutes.

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by ptwnblzr on Jul 3, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or Rudy instead of Martell

We’ll see this at times, I expect. Rudy, Roy, Travis, LMA, Oden. In fact, that may be the fourth quarter closer lineup, especially if Rudy’s game translates well. I don’t really know how you would defend against it.

That’s actually awesome scary.

I predicted 55 wins for this season, by the way. When I look at that lineup…

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by jscot on Jul 4, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking the same thing

That could be our big lineup, it lacks slashers (Roy being the only one) and Web would have to work his tail off guarding a 2, but it could work. Def. Outlaw over Frye though.

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by WarEaglePDX on Jul 4, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last summer Nate looked at LMA at the 3

I recall Nate considering LMA for occasional minutes at the 3 (because he is pretty quick). I think it could be very possible to see Frye at 4 and Oden at 5 with Lma at 3. Add Roy and either Rudy or Webster and you got one quick “Big” lineup. I doubt you’d see that for more than a few minutes per game though.

by NWfan on Jul 4, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That front line was what Coach Nate

said he wanted to try last year with LMA at the 3. Again who can guard them?

This is not a lineup I like as well now that Martell is proving himself.

by lee3022 on Jul 5, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brandon has a bigger advantage

playing against bigger/slower guys. Posting or popping 12 footers over smaller guys is good but not as good as Roy breaking ankles with his crossovers. I’d rather see us play small, with a Bayless/Rudy/Roy combo then see us play big that much.

by howlingfantods on Jul 4, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What is scary about PDX

Is that we can field a really nasty big or small ball lineup.

Big lineup:
Oden 5
Frye 4
Lma 3
Webster/Rudy 2
Roy 1

Quick Lineup:
LMA / Oden 5
Trout / LMA 4
Rudy or Webster 3(2)
Roy 2(3)
Bayless 1

That quick lineup could have either combination of LMA and Trout at 4-5 or Oden and LMA at 4-5, though the first might trouble rebounding.

by NWfan on Jul 4, 2008 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You won't see Oden/Frye/LMA..;

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by timbo on Jul 4, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yahachs is too windy to play the point

could haystock rock break the line-up?

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by bow4meow on Jul 4, 2008 5:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I see the Blazers 4th quarter line up like this ..

Oden – - 7’0
LMA – - – 6’11
FRY – - – -6’11
Outlaw – -6’9
Roy – - – - 6’6

HOW can you drive the lane with THAT line up ?
That would be the largest line up in the NBA as well as its youngest …
This team is going to be rippin up some pewp this year easily …

by Lenwen76 on Jul 5, 2008 1:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Running?

Frye at the 3? I don’t think this line-up would be able to keep up with the faster teams in the open court. If you don’t have a chance to set-up your defense (in a fast-break) who cares if you can stop them in the half-court.

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by mannyfresh1 on Jul 5, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The L*kers will start

Gasol 7’0”
Bynum 7’0”
Odem 6’10”
K*by 6’6”
and could play Walton 6’8” as well.

Bench includes Mihm 7’0”, Radmanovic 6’10”. Turiaf 6’10” and Ariza 6’8”. Maybe going small against the them will be more effective.

by lee3022 on Jul 5, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Roy is a shooting guard and happens to be able to play the point. This doesn’t mean he should play point guard for 4 quarters. He is very good off ball and always knows where to be. I think you leave Roy alone at starting shooting guard and let Bayless and Blake play point.

by BRoyInThe4th on Jul 5, 2008 6:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Roy is a basketball player

who normally plays guard. The Blazers seem to be acquiring combo guards who can handle, pass, drive and shoot. Brandon fits right in. Brandon does not have to carry the load of scoring this year and will get his points.

by lee3022 on Jul 5, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs