Contract Updates
Storyteller has updated a bunch of 2008-09 info on his NBA contract site. Could be of help for all of those trades you're concocting.
Check it out here.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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It was very satisfying
to be able to enter Rudy’s deal into the spreadsheet the other night and change the color from green to clear (to symbolize the move from ‘cap hold’ to ‘actual salary’. Very satisfying indeed.
by Storyteller on
Jul 3, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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i salute your powerful movement
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by Ben. on
Jul 3, 2008 2:22 PM PDT
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great work, thanks
and for an update on the 2009 summer cap situtation, assuming no trades:
Group A- Locked In: $30,817,862 for 8 contracts
Przybilla, Oden, LMA, Outlaw, Roy, Sergio, Rudy, Bayless
Group B- Potential rookies: $1,789,700 for 2 contracts
Nicolas Batum: $932,300
Petteri Koponen: $857,400
2009 1st round: ??? (estimate around $1 million)
Group C- Team option: $4,930,000
Steve Blake: $4,930,000
Group D- 2009 Cap Holds: $29,543,172 for 3 cap holds
Martel Webster: $11,313,399
Channing Frye: $9,491,307
Ike Diogu: $8,738,466
So, take group A, and mix and match any and all combinations from groups B, C, and D to figure out how much potential cap room we could have next summer (cap should be around $60 million then)
by douglast on
Jul 3, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
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I thought
that group B (which also would include Freeland) are cap holds, so you can’t mix and match them, you have to include them. Is that wrong?
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on
Jul 3, 2008 12:17 PM PDT
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Good Catch
They have to be included UNLESS we renounce our rights to them. Not likely, except for maybe Freeland. They are such a small part of the equation that it shouldn’t matter too much. But it is an important note.
by douglast on
Jul 3, 2008 12:43 PM PDT
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KP's in Good Shape
So, we have about $37,500,000 committed, and then we have cap holds on Channing, Martel and Diogu. You can rest assured KP has the same spreadsheet. If you look at the market today, then if these were to be kept, they’d all likely resign in the $4 million to $5 million range (like Blake). This would take us to about $48 to $50 million, leaving us at least $10 million to $12 million under the cap if it’s $60 million. In terms of Channing, Martel and Diogu, Pritch, who is always proactive, will talk to them well in advance to judge whether or not they’re likely to delay signing – which would affect his ability to sign free agents. After all, if KP goes into the market to improve a position, then at least one player at the affected position will be either traded, or be a part of that transaction. (i.e. Jack and Rush vs. Bayless).. This should add another $3 million to $5 million – giving KP up to $15 million or $16 million to sign a free agent. If you look at the market right now, players like Howard, Ben Gordon and Magette are making $9 million to $11 million, and Barron Davis, Brand etc., are making some $13 million to $16 million. KP can likely get players of this caliber – if he chooses. It wouldn’t, as a result, surprise me at all to see KP offer contracts well in advance.
I would also point out that Diogu was a throw-in. If KP just released him and kept Channing, that wouldn’t be too surprising. At the same time, if SF is the position KP seeks to upgrade, then Martel would likely be traded in any case.
by Eben Calder on
Jul 3, 2008 1:14 PM PDT
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I'm not sure Diogu was a throw-in.
He definitely brings something that this set of Blazers lacks outside of Joel Przybilla. It’s never bad to have a couple of those types on the bench.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
I will miss Jarrett Jack, but getting Jerryd Bayless is helping ease my pain.
by T Darkstar on
Jul 3, 2008 1:26 PM PDT
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that 15 or 16 mil
should be spent on securing all these critical pieces to the dynasty (roy, james jones, lma, outlaw, etc) not on some chump like Brand.
by PippenAintEasy on
Jul 3, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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I love the tribute to Canzano. Nailed it!
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on
Jul 3, 2008 1:50 PM PDT
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Thanks
I put that up on the site a couple of years ago after several e-mail exchanges with him.
by Storyteller on
Jul 3, 2008 3:02 PM PDT
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if ou want a quick laugh...
Check out New York’s contracts, and then Miami’s..
by PippenAintEasy on
Jul 3, 2008 2:52 PM PDT
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Does somebody want Fred Jones back?
Just a thought when looking at the roster of New York. He seemed sad to leave Portland in the Zach deal, is now an unrestricted free agent and could probably be had with a part of the MLE.
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by Norsktroll on
Jul 3, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
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I love Fred Jones
But I don’t see him making this team.
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on
Jul 3, 2008 8:42 PM PDT
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Numbers Aren't Easy
Brand was an example, not someone we’d have any interest in. And I agree with some that imply we need to retain much of this cap to keep the team we have. After all, if Oden stays healthy, he’ll be an elite player in this league. And that means he will command in the $20 mill range easy. Then, Aldridge has better numbers than Howard, who’s now shopping in the $11 mill range. Roy is a better bet downstream than Barron Davis, who just signed a 5 year deal for $13 mill a year. If Bayless and/or Fernandez turn out to be keepers, then they’ll command at least what Ben Gordon makes, which is $9 mill. That’s $62 million right there, and the cap next year is projected to be $60 mill. That doesn’t account for the SF position, nor rotational players like Frye, Pryz, a 2nd SF, or even a Blake. Right now even Diogu makes $3.1 mill. If the starting SF took down $9 mill, and the other 4 averaged $5 mill – which is what Blake makes, that’s another $29 mill, for a total of $91 mill, which is $30 mill over the cap today. Granted, this will all hit in 3-4 years. But it’s what KP has to deal with.
by Eben Calder on
Jul 3, 2008 10:05 PM PDT
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with all the talent we've got
we’re probably going to be over the cap for a decade. I guess that’s the big hulabaloo about 2009—we’ll have money to spend for the last time in a long time?
by 50backflips on
Jul 3, 2008 10:11 PM PDT
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contract info
I find the contract information really confusing. Team option? What is the significance of that? In Dave’s post the other day he went into how the rate would be multiplied by 3 until the player was signed or something like that, then there are rookie scales and on and on. Is there a good place to get a primer on all this info?
by 50backflips on
Jul 3, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
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Done and done
I was wondering what I was going to post about tonight.
—Dave
by Dave on
Jul 3, 2008 10:37 PM PDT
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Not easy.
If there’s one thing that becomes increasingly clear, it is that regardless of “cap-space” next summer, team’s simply cannot afford more than three stars, plus support pieces. Paul signed a contract for $68 million for three years. Arenas signed one for $111 million for 5, they will both make $22 million and change per year. That is over 1/3 of the cap space of about $60 million each team has available. In 3-5 years, the Blazers will be clearly fighting all of this. I don’t see how anyone can think, looking downstream, that the Blazers can pay $10 million for the SF slot, and pay the kinds of salaries they almost certainly will have long term commitments for at Center, PF, and the two guard slots.
by Eben Calder on
Jul 4, 2008 7:15 AM PDT
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Not without charging a ton for tickets
The Knicks and Lakers charge a lot for their tickets – something like twice as much as the Blazers do – so that their owners can afford large payrolls and still make profits (or in the Knicks case, at least limit their losses).
The rules about re-signing your own free agents make it possible for a team to have lots of players making lots of money (think 2001 Blazers), so Portland could legally have 6 or more guys making $10+ million. But that might mean Paul Allen taking huge losses again – depends on the revenue stream that the team would have.
by Storyteller on
Jul 4, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
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