Breaking news: Artest traded to Rockets
Rockets agree to send Jackson, pick, player to Kings for Artest
Rocket would send Bobby Jackson, probably Donte Greene and a No. 1 draft pick in 2009 to Kings.
quote from the ESPN:
"The Houston Chronicle reported that the Kings would receive Bobby Jackson, a No. 1 draft pick in 2009 and another player that the newspaper's source could not identify. The Associated Press, citing anonymous league sources, said that the other player would be rookie forward Donte Greene.
That means the deal can't be announced yet because Greene, acquired by the Rockets on draft night last month, signed a contract with Houston on July 14. A player can't be traded within 30 days of signing a contract, according to league rules.
KRIV television in Houston reported that the Kings will also receive cash."
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Second! Copy, paste, delete own fanpost on this issue ;-)
Sorry for hijacking noaher’s post on the Deng trade, as the Artest story was just breaking and info slowly coming in.
As apparently first reported by the Houston Chronicle, Ron Artest will be traded from the Kings to the Rockets in exchange for Bobby Jackson, a yet-to-be-finally-named second player (according to AP and ESPN its #28 2008 draft pick Donte Greene) and Houston’s 2009 first round draft pick – which won’t be worth much if the Rockets are as good as they hope to be now.
We can be happy that Sacramento didn’t take the trade offer from the L*kers cause that would have been a very tough team (might still happen once Artest’s contract is up, but less likely). But this Houston team also poses some serious problems, and definitely might enable TMac to get out of the first round this year if everybody can stay healthy at the right time of the season.
P.S.: Some Kings fans joked the second player might be TMac. Tough luck, you are officially in rebuilding mode while Houston enters the “win it now or never” stage.
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by Norsktroll on Jul 29, 2008 7:14 PM PDT 0 recs
I bet
that draft pick will be worth about 3mil to us
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on
Jul 30, 2008 6:23 AM PDT
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Schnikeees
now we can get Battier for cheap!! Nice work Petrie, looking after your old boys!!
by SpyderRyder on Jul 29, 2008 7:16 PM PDT 1 recs
Artest is only signed through this season
Battier has 3 years left on his contract. It makes no sense to trade Battier now when Artest could implode at any minute. Shane is the consummate team player who will accept a bench role. If Artest plays really well and they advance in the playoffs this year, he’ll get signed long term and Battier could be moved. As of now, it’s pointless to trade him when he’s young, not that expensive, and doesn’t have an ounce of character issues that Ron-Ron has.
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by Ozzie Montana on
Jul 30, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
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Good for us
Without thinking about it further, my first reaction is that it’s a good trade for Houston, and it’s good for us.
We don’t have to worry about Sacramento competing with us for the 8th spot (they were only 3 games behind us or so, after all, and got good players), and we don’t got to worry about Artest going somewhere like the Nuggets (also giving us strong competition for the 8th spot) or the Lakers (which would really help that team).
And the Kings don’t do too bad either I guess, getting a hopefully promising young talent in Donte Green and a future #1. Is it protected? Yao/McGrady/Artest all coming off injury filled seasons (with the first two it’s sorta the norm I guess), who knows if the injury bug bites them bad and then that #1 pick turns into quite the niceness.
Artest wasn’t gonna stay in Sacramento, so they had to move him, but could they have gotten a better deal at the trade deadline? By then all the teams who are good will be mostly established, and teams will know what they really need. Most of them would need an Artest and would likely pay highly for him.
Is this trade too soon?
I guess it erases any possible Ron-Ron type distractions right away, and just goes full-tilt into rebuilding. I can’t argue with that.
I’m mostly just glad Artest didn’t go to the Lakers, and went to a team you can pretty much guarantee will make the playoffs without him already, thus not hurting our potential spot.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jul 29, 2008 7:16 PM PDT 0 recs
And Gavin can shut up about
Bringing Artest here.
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by 92wastheyear on
Jul 29, 2008 7:19 PM PDT
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addition by subtraction?
granted that Artest was the Kings second or third best player talent wise, but he just doesn’t buy into the team concept and breaks a lot of plays. I wouldnt be suprised if the Kings are able to get to .500 this season as they had over achieved with a new coach last year. At the least they should start being mentioned along with Utah, LAL, and NO as a team that could be dangerous to the blazers in the future. Also, Slamons is a pretty capable player and was often out playing Artest during the season and Garcia has his moments too.
At the very least it gives them the opportunity to play SAR at his natural position. (I am being sarcastic here and it needs to be said as sarcasm does not translate to message boards.)
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by jonestr on
Jul 30, 2008 6:33 AM PDT
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No respect for Battier
Come to us…
You’d be treasured here.
by as11osu on Jul 29, 2008 7:27 PM PDT 1 recs
Its now or never
For Houston but what happens when RonRon needs a month off in the middle of the season to co-produce his latest rap hop disk?Sac came out ahead because they needed to get something for the guy,were going to stink anyway and got some young talent
by southern oregon on Jul 29, 2008 7:38 PM PDT 0 recs
Nice haul for Sactown
Jackson’s not in their long term plans (except maybe as BJEC whenever that’s applicable), but Donte Green and a first round pick are two nice building blocks to put next to KMart (Kenyon has to surrender the name due to obvious inferiority) and their young big men, in exchange for a troubled player who’s gone next year anyway. Other than getting rid of what’s his name’s contract, I think this was about the best they could’ve done. Hell, Denver wouldn’t include Kleiza in a deal last year. Houston will be good, but with the West being as deep as it is, they’re far from a lock to be a top 3 seed.
I also like the deal for Houston, though – they can’t wait on Green or next year’s pick to develop. Artest gives them two of the best perimeter defenders in the game and a nice third wheel to contribute on offense, as well. I think this might elevate them to the projected 2 seed, even.
Not sure they can beat the Lakers, because Scola and Yao will get killed by Bynum/Gasol (too fast, too explosive), but at least they can now throw a killer tag-team at Kobe.
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by KP Corleone on Jul 29, 2008 7:39 PM PDT 1 recs
totally agree
Good deal for both teams. Houston needs to go for it now, and Sac couldn’t have done much better than Greene, Jackson and a future first rounder.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
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What about Lamar Odom
there was some talk about grabbing him in a trade. i would have to see that as an upgrade over Bobby Jackson, even if i don’t like him as a player
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on
Jul 29, 2008 10:38 PM PDT
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for a young, rebuilding team...
it’s not about Jackson, it’s about Greene and a future 1st rounder to add to their young core as KP Corleone mentioned. If Odom really was available, I’m sure they considered it, but we don’t know if he was and its also possible the Maloofs just didn’t want to help out the Lakers.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 10:40 PM PDT
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Yep
Bobby Jackson gives them a nice EC and a veteran back up point guard. Donte could be good, better than what they have right now at the 3.
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by Dheepan on
Jul 29, 2008 10:49 PM PDT
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I dont know if Yao and Scola will get killed
Scola is crafty and physical which are two things that Gasol does not like and Bynum is still a work in progress offensively. Also, no one can guard a healthy Yao.
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by jonestr on
Jul 30, 2008 6:37 AM PDT
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I noticed you both claim that Houston is far from a lock...
... to be a top 3 seed with this trade and that the trade might make them a #2 seed.
Nice. You’ve ensured your prognastication score won’t drop below .500.
by timg56 on
Jul 30, 2008 8:12 AM PDT
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More info on why the Kings do this deal
Artest wanted to get out of Sacramento after learning slowly that he wasn’t a major piece for their future, and was mad at himself that he didn’t opt out already this year. The Kings reportedly get $1 million in cash. Bobby Jackson is a known quantity (he had his best years there), and his deal is expiring after this season for $ 6 million. They get a young forward talent in addition to the ones they already have (Francisco Garcia, Patrick Ewing Jr.). They get a first round pick (whatever this will be worth). Rebuilding, here we come.
Oh, and is it too early to start taking bets to which city the Kings are relocating in the next three years? My money is on the Vegas Kings right now, but Kansas Kings also has an interesting ring to it. Sorry, Sac-town.
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by Norsktroll on Jul 29, 2008 7:42 PM PDT 0 recs
Would've been the LV Kings
if All-Star weekend wouldnt have been such a PR nightmare a couple years back – and, of course, the Donaghy thing dropped a nuclear bomb on that idea. NBA wants nothing to do with gambling for a little while.
Personally, I’d love to see it, though. The Maloof bros. can build them a stadium at the Palms. Sactown fans will have an excuse to make the trip a few times each year. Everybody wins.
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by KP Corleone on
Jul 29, 2008 7:53 PM PDT
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KC Kings
talk about coming full circle…so much for the old saying “you can’t go home again”.
My money would be on Seattle. King County even, so it fits a bit.
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by douglast on Jul 29, 2008 7:52 PM PDT 0 recs
but to get back on topic
I like the move for both teams. Sac had to move Artest, and getting Greene and another 1st rounder isn’t a bad return at all.
For Houston, it’s obvious a move toward making a run now.
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by douglast on
Jul 29, 2008 7:53 PM PDT
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What is Huston thinking????
Adding that personality? He will bowl over Yao.
Do you think Battier would be available now? He is WAY too good to back up Artest.
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by OCBlazerFan1 on Jul 29, 2008 7:52 PM PDT 0 recs
Would something like Martell + Blake work?
I like Blake. I wouldn’t want to see him go. But Houston could use another PG, Martell would be suitable as a backup three… and Battier (other than being a little old) is the pefect three man for Portland. He knocks down the three consistently, great team player, great locker room guy, all world defender… he would make Portland a title contender this year (if, and it’s a big if, the loss of Blake wouldn’t force Bayless to do too much, too soon).
Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.
by KP Corleone on
Jul 29, 2008 7:56 PM PDT
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Not Blake
He is our only true point guard….who can play (sorry Sergio).
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by 92wastheyear on
Jul 29, 2008 8:22 PM PDT
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frye, petteri, 1st round and cash
Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE
by CroRupt on
Jul 29, 2008 9:18 PM PDT
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Battier WILL NOT BE TRADED
Nipping it in the bud before multiple fanposts proposing trades. Artest is on rent for one year. Battier is also a team player and will come off the bench. Rockets can also go small with Artest at PF, Battier at SF, and McGrady at SG.
Rockets get a guy who plays excellent one on one defense and a chucker on offense. Yes, Artest chucks and stops ball movement. He’s also a headcase. The Rockets problem wasn’t defense, it was injuries and offense. Good luck to Adelman with Artest.
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by blzrfan on Jul 29, 2008 7:55 PM PDT 0 recs
And really
Artest could maybe be their biggest PF. Scola, Landry, anyone else they got at PF? They aren’t bigger/stronger than Artest.
It might not be his ideal spot, but Artest is definitely strong and tall enough to play PF next to Yao, or Battier can, or whatever.
Maybe it makes Battier available, but they can all play together.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Jul 29, 2008 8:03 PM PDT
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Landry was flat out phenomenal...
... when given a chance last year. He was 18th in the league in PER last year and played great D as well.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics
I really think Houston should find a bigger role for him.
I agree that Battier could play with Artest, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they move him—seems to me they could still use an upgrade in the backcourt.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 9:55 PM PDT
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Yeah
Hard to say where they are going to find room for Battier.
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by Dheepan on
Jul 29, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
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Agreed
Landry was rumored to have offers from Europe, but now that they are in “win it now” mode with Artest and his fairly priced yet soon expiring contract they might take the money left to re-sign him.
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by Norsktroll on
Jul 29, 2008 8:37 PM PDT
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Artest is a crap rebounder.
Can’t play the 4. Battier’s not great on the boards either. That lineup would get eaten up on the glass.
by howlingfantods on
Jul 29, 2008 9:32 PM PDT
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I think they can play the small lineup in spurts
They do have Yao Ming in the middle.
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by blzrfan on
Jul 29, 2008 9:40 PM PDT
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Despite being huge, Yao can't man the middle by himself.
He just doesn’t have the range to cover the vast majority of the rebounding burden. There’s a reason Houston desperately snatches up all the pure rebounding talent they can for the PF position.
Dwight Howard in the middle by himself? Works. Yao by himself? Doesn’t. Rebounding speaking, anyways.
by howlingfantods on
Jul 30, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
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So what's with
“No. 1 draft pick”? Is Sac. going to be so awful that they’ll get No 1 next year??
........
Oh, they mean a first round draft pick? Why didn’t they say so? ESPN right up there with the best once again.
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by jorga on Jul 29, 2008 8:08 PM PDT 0 recs
I dunno for how long
But that’s been standard to say as far as I can tell. It’s the Rocket’s #1 pick next year, wherever it ends up being. I guess it takes too long to say “1st round pick” so they say “the #1 pick”. I plan to use the time saved in calling it just the #1 pick to catch up on my reading.
And of course it’s the ROCKET’s #1 pick, not the Kingseses, so it’s likely to be in the 20’s. Still, you can get goodies there every year.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Jul 29, 2008 8:31 PM PDT
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Yeah, like, uhm, Jason Thompson this year at #12 ;-)
Kings on draft day for the win. Though he did seem to play well in summer league and of course it’s always better to have more opportunities to not screw it up.
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by Norsktroll on
Jul 29, 2008 8:42 PM PDT
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Jason Thompson is legit
Just because he went to a MAAC school doesn’t mean he can’t play. I watched him play Siena (which upset Vandy in the NCAA tourney) and was very impressed.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 9:56 PM PDT
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I don't know
To me he looks like the second coming of Sheldon Williams. Who knows, he might be decent. But I would have preferred Randolph at that point in the draft.
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by Dheepan on
Jul 29, 2008 10:01 PM PDT
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disagree
Thompson is longer, lankier and much more athletic than Shelden Williams. He has a similar body type to Randolph- less upside but I think he’s more polished and ready to contribute at this point.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 10:34 PM PDT
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Gotta run with the SNAKE here
Jason Thompson looked like a lil’ bit of the ol’ all-right to me. I liked what I saw in summer league.
Long, athletic, played hard, they might have got a good PF there.
Time will tell of course, but Sheldon Williams was so clearly reached for at the #5 spot and had/has no offensive abilities whatsover AND is short AND is ugly… it was just so dumb to outright promise that the Hawks would draft him at #5. I’ll never understand that.
I can’t argue with drafting Randolph there either, because he looks good too and probably has more upside, but I definitely thought Thompson looked like a playa’.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Jul 30, 2008 12:28 AM PDT
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triple it
I like Thompson as well. He impressed me in the summer league which is honestly the only time I have been able to watch him. But he looked legit by my lame eye….
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by myemic23 on
Jul 30, 2008 2:07 AM PDT
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Petrie has been known
to a pretty good talent evaluator
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by 92wastheyear on
Jul 30, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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No, he uses his player option and comes back to us, sits in the shade and enjoys his $17 million
Or so it looks on most salary sites: Stevie Franchise has a player option with Portland. I sure hope that buyout keeps him far away.
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by Norsktroll on
Jul 29, 2008 10:06 PM PDT
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Nah
If he got his contract bought out, loses the right to the player option. Basically he got released from his max deal and was allowed to sign another one. The contract counts against our cap but he can’t use the player option.
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by Dheepan on
Jul 29, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
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Good pickup for the Rockets.
Depth is one of their biggest problems, this helps somewhat. Of course, they only go as far as Yao’s feet and McGrady’s back can take them. Artest is nutty but also very coachable and great on the court. Adelman is one of the best player’s coaches around, and he’s proven capable of getting the most out of a lot of pretty troubled players.
by howlingfantods on Jul 29, 2008 9:35 PM PDT 0 recs
Pray for Rick Adleman
help refresh my memory. What pretty troubled did players did Rick get the most out of. Alaa Abdelnaby comes to mind, but as I recall when confronted about how him and Robert Parrish got along, Alaa just said “dont worry about it, dude” and then guarded McHale.
I remember Rick coaching non-troubled guys like Buck, TP, Jerome, Clyde, Dudley, Cooper, Danny Young .... you are not referring to Lamont Strothers are you? He just didnt have the game.
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by bow4meow on
Jul 30, 2008 2:35 PM PDT
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Bonzi Wells
Some guy named Ron Artest
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 30, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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oh yea Rick really maximized Bonzi's game
and certainly groomed him into one of the most loathed of all PTBs. Artest is a waste of valuable time. I often wondering of re-naming my cat would cause problems for him. Im thinking Corky.
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by bow4meow on
Jul 30, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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umm...
Rick never had Bonzi in Portland… and he had a great relationship with both Bonzi and Artest in Sacramento.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 30, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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Where does the put the Rockets in West?
fourth? fifth? I would assume Lakers, Spurs, and Hornets are locks.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jul 29, 2008 10:41 PM PDT 0 recs
I don't think the Spurs are locks anymore (for the home court advantage spots)
They got older, lost Barry plus probably more guys, failed to get Tiago Splitter over from Europe, failed to get the draft pick they apparently wanted (Batum), and their biggest free agent acquisition so far is Roger Mason to back up Parker. But maybe that’s a discussion for later, when we can be pretty sure how each team will go into the next season and can hand out grades how they did during the summer.
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by Norsktroll on
Jul 29, 2008 10:49 PM PDT
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Ah, the mythical Tiago Splitter.

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by rockingharder on
Jul 30, 2008 12:06 AM PDT
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Almost forgot
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
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by rockingharder on
Jul 30, 2008 12:06 AM PDT
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<3
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
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by rockingharder on
Jul 30, 2008 12:06 AM PDT
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TIAGO SPLITTER IS A MYTH
He’s just an inside joke made up by NBA analysts to see if they could hype up a mysterious Euro big man to the point where GMs would use a draft pick on the kid.
The cat was almost let out of the bag when “Tiago Splitter” kept pulling out of the draft for a decade in a row, but GMs still kept lapping up the reports coming from the uncharted wild savage lands of Eurostania.
The fact that “Splitter” is Brazilian just adds to the inside jokeyness.
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by Mortimer on
Jul 30, 2008 12:31 AM PDT
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Wow, thanks "Need4Sheed."
See if I ever go to you for my Detroit Pistons information ever again. You’re being greedy and bogarting the Tiago Splitter image!
I heart the mythical Tiago Splitter.

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"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
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by rockingharder on
Jul 30, 2008 12:45 AM PDT
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Depends how old the Spurs really are
And how healthy Tmac and Yao are, with Yao playing in the Olympics he is going to have much less time to rest for the season.
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by Dheepan on
Jul 29, 2008 10:50 PM PDT
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The Spurs? 29.1 as the roster stands now. So they got younger this season.
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by Norsktroll on
Jul 30, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
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I'd agree on the 3 locks you mentioned...
but I think the Rockets and Jazz are locks also. The Blazers could potentially finish as high as 6th. The Suns, Mavs, Nuggets and Warriors are all candidates for some serious regression.
I also agree with the folks who say the Spurs aren’t locks for a top 4 spot anymore. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them as the 6 seed.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 10:53 PM PDT
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wait,
first you say you agree on the 3 locks… then you say you ALSO agree that the Spurs aren’t a lock.
Which is it?
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on
Jul 29, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
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I meant...
... the Spurs are a lock to make the playoffs, but are not a lock for a top 4 seed.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 29, 2008 11:00 PM PDT
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gotcha
Ba da da da dah... I'm BEdgin' it!
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on
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Rockets project at number two; Blazers could be third
They’re deep, versatile, and balanced. If Artest starts at the four (as espn.com reports) they’ve got Landry and Scola coming off the bench – two of the best utility big men in the league. They’ve got Head/Rafer at point, which is their weakness, but could be worse. But I think this likely puts them ahead of the Hornets, Jazz, Spurs, etc.
Spurs will fall off a little bit more this year (in the regular season, at least). They’re running low on support for the big three, and really needed to sign an impact guy this summer. They still could, though. I think the 5 spot is in play for the Blazers (versus Spurs/Suns/Mavs – all could field a pretty decent squad in the over thirty-five league), and if Bayless/Oden/Rudy get the hang of things early, they can challenge the Hornets and Jazz, too for the 3 or the 4.
If the Rockets play well and mesh, and the Lakers avoid injury, they will be tough to catch for the top two seeds.
Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
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by KP Corleone on
Jul 30, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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I'd be shocked
If everyone who made it last year, save for Denver, did not make the playoffs again this upcoming season.
Dallas, PHX, LA, Spurs, Rockets, NO, Utah, all should make it unless injuries happen (unless I am underestimating how steeply Shaq and perhaps Nash will fall off). I agree we could finish at 6th, maybe even 4th if we get higher than Utah (it’s do-able if Oden is Oden), but we’re gunning for that spot that Denver is going to give up if ya asks me.
Those teams just got too much talent—obviously, if they don’t get hurt.
Why do you think Dallas will fall off so much? I don’t like Kidd and think he’s overrated, but him and Dirk and Howard and etc is good enough for 50 wins still, I think. They got the same decent team and aren’t about to die like Shaq is.
Our main rivals last season for the last spot, Denver and Golden State, should drop off considerably. If I was Denver, I’d try to move AI and just start over again, building around Melo. Perhaps they are and it isn’t as easy as all that, of course.
Golden State and the Clippers both got talent (especially the Clippers) but it seems all mismatched, and the Dubs have no real starting PG to orchestrate Nelly-Ball. That’s the KEY KEY KEY to running that system: someone who can push the tempo and make good decisions with the ball and also shoot. And I think the money being thrown around in Clipper land won’t get them over the mid 40 wins, and their bench is wack.
And now that Artest is traded we don’t gotta worry about Sactown improving on their solid record last season.
SO, we let the previous 7 playoff teams do their thang and we root against Denver and the Clippers so we can get that final playoff spot, wherever it ends up being.
My prediction at least! We gonna be the only new playoff team, and Denver and the Clippers fizzle.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Jul 30, 2008 12:41 AM PDT
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I don't
I have Dallas and Phoenix in the playoffs as the 6th and 7th seeds, ahead of the Blazers. I’m just saying I wouldn’t be shocked if they fall off. I agree though, I’d be very surprised if they miss the playoffs… and I agree that its Denver’s spot that’s most likely to open up.
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by jksnake99 on
Jul 30, 2008 12:48 AM PDT
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Me too me too
I think most likely, considering the veteran experience and talent the other teams got, we are the 8th seed. BUT IN A WORLD WHERE THINGS GO RIGHT, Oden is Oden and LMA continues to improve and Roy is Roy and either Trout or Martell solidify their hold on their position and Bayless and Rudy contribute regularly in good ways, I could see us either winning the Northwest just barely or being a 6th seed type team.
Of course, a lot has to go right for us and a WHOLE LOT has to go wrong for others… or just very very very very right for us?
I haven’t decided how many “verys” we’re gonna need to go right for us to get us past the 8th seed, but it don’t matter.
As long as we face the Lakers in the 1st round, we’re going to the 2nd. They shall not pass!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on
Jul 30, 2008 12:59 AM PDT
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I think you might be right
but not in that order.
My take:
1 L@#2 NO
#3 HOU (contigent on health)
#4 Portland
#5 Spurs
#6 Utah
#7 PHX
#8 Dallas
really I think after the first two teams 3 thru 8 are fluid and even games in early November and April will be key for seeding.
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