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Trail Mix 7/27/08 -- more crunchy than yesterday

I'm not sure that censorship is yet pervasive on Blazers Edge, but it has become noticeable and the trend is disturbing. Who does the censoring and what are the groundrules for censorship? What is the appeals process, if any? All these questions... So there's a little topic for the day. Discuss.

Another swell question... Kevin Duckworth is a big guy, if you know what I mean. If he was a current player, his nickname would be Albert and he'd be the first player in the Association with a 3-digit jersey... So my rather more lighthearted question is this: what current Blazer do you judge most likely to be able to teeter-totter successfully with Duck after his playing days, say when he hits age 50. We will assume that Travis is out. Beyond that, which current Blazer has the "biggest bones"?

Hike.

 

t

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BENNY ON JERRY

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 12:25 AM PDT   0 recs

Raef is probably the obvious answer

but I’m going with Przybilla.

As for censorship… there is a link near the bottom of the right bar on the main page (“Blazersedge Conversational Rules”). It seems clear enough to me. Some folks may not like it, but people are free to run their websites as they see fit. I personally like a properly “censored” community as it tends to keep those that need “censoring” away.

by Gargen on Jul 27, 2008 12:28 AM PDT   0 recs

verry bold question

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

get it? bold?

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

this thing on?

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 7:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tough room

"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma

by -ken on Jul 27, 2008 7:33 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

i get it now

by kite on Jul 27, 2008 12:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol yah, i know :*(

(hangs head in shame)

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 10:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I refer back to the "Blazersedge Conversational Rules"

See http://www.blazersedge.com/story/2007/5/27/35733/4476

There aren’t any rules any more exact than that and I don’t think there could be as it can be both subjective and situational… if not straight up flexible and dynamic. I’m pretty sure only Ben and Dave have mod powers and Dave has referenced sending people “this is why you got suspended/banned” emails in the past, but I doubt they do it for every post they delete.

by Gargen on Jul 27, 2008 12:41 AM PDT   0 recs

Whining about censorship and the appeals process

frankly leaves me cold. I’ve seen more than one site destroyed by meta-talk over the “rules” and a”ppeal rights”. This isn’t a public square. There don’t have to even be rules or appeal rights. It’s more like a privately owned tavern or Dave’s dinner table.

This is a situation where I am all for, highly in favor of, benign dictatorship. I like the way this place works. If Dave and Ben start to screw it up, I’ll let them know, and then vote with my feet if I have to.

But I promise, what I will not do is hang around and watch if the site devolves into a buch of 12 year old getting intouch with their inner lawyers.

by raoulduke on Jul 27, 2008 8:36 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Take down your HST avatar... You don't understand him.

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A cogent argument

I stand vanquished. You 12 year old lawyers are tough!

by raoulduke on Jul 27, 2008 9:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He was right though

I completely 100% agree with you… so I’m not sure what you understood my point to be, but it clearly wasn’t what I meant.

by Gargen on Jul 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Looking back I was replying to support what you wrote

Though the way I worded it, may have appeared that I was accusing you of “whining.” Not my intent.

by raoulduke on Jul 27, 2008 3:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Joel or Ike.

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by annthefan on Jul 27, 2008 12:47 AM PDT   1 recs

And

http://www.sbnation.com/pages/about

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by annthefan on Jul 27, 2008 12:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ann..

I’ve never seen you write more than a sentence – I’m shocked!

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 27, 2008 5:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That covers ANYTHING...

(b) transmit any material that is abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, pornographic, obscene, libelous, invasive of another’s privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable;

Anything “objectionable” = blank check.

t

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You got it. It's like the signs in restaurants.

“We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone”. Watch your P’s and Q’s.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 27, 2008 11:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Objectionable

I think one of my comments was deleted the other day. All I did was suggest that TIH had maybe gone off his meds because he was making some really bizarre non sequitors. I wasn’t being mean-spirited or anything like that. Actually the comment was meant to be kind of jocular. Still, it got deleted. I though that was kind of weird.

Winning is everything.

by MT Suit on Jul 27, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think there needs to be an explicit rule where anybody can flip Tom crap anytime...

................................................. I mean he is a drunken naked skydiving hula girl after all…

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 5:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Awe Yeah

You want a link? I'll give you a link. www.google.com

by tominhawaii on Jul 27, 2008 5:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahaha! All I wrote is "Joel or Ike. The rest is copy and paste.

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by annthefan on Jul 27, 2008 11:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks Ann

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by lee3022 on Jul 27, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

well ann,

i think you did an outstanding job in effort and relavency today, so you get an A

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 7:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Who or what is Dwight Schrute?

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 8:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Office (American)

Good show. It’s on NBC.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 27, 2008 11:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That is timbo?

I’m going to send your mother a sympathy card on your birthday and your wife one on your anniversary.

Fore!

by prezofdeath on Jul 27, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Here you go:

Watch this. It’ll give you a pretty good introduction.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 27, 2008 11:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoa.

That sound you just heard was a paradigm shattering. I’ve heard a lot of reviews of The Office, but they’re much closer to my own “funniest show on TV” than “terrible.”

Seriously though, I think the worst I’ve ever heard about The Office was “Eh, it’s okay. Not really my style of humor, but I can see why others like it.”

What I will say about the show, however, is that it does have down times. There are five or six episodes over the four seasons that are just horrible. I’ll pretend that you just caught one of those :)

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 27, 2008 10:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Seen the UK version?

Its quite a bit different- so a lot of fans of the US version don’t like it- but I’m a big fan of the original. Ricky Gervais- who plays the character that Michael Scott is based on- is hilarious.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 27, 2008 11:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You beat me

The original is far superior to the US version. I feel snobby saying that, but it’s true. I don’t like the US version. Not because it’s inferior to the original, I just don’t like it.

Salaam

by Junior Del Norte on Jul 27, 2008 11:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A little bit.

I haven’t seen more than bits and pieces of the UK version, but I would like to get a hold of the DVDs and go through them. From what I’ve heard, it’s even more awkward, which is sometimes funnier and sometimes just painful. Sounds like it’s worth watching, to me.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 27, 2008 11:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The guy who brought the Office disc to work nailed it.... "awkward" humor...

................................. “I’m Steve Carrell playing a boorish clueless jerk… Boy am I ever boorish and clueless. Ho ho.”

No, you want good TV comedy, it’s Arrested Development all the way. Tight writing and a tendency towards absurdism. THAT’S funny. The Office is just bad.

t

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 11:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Arrested Development is really, really funny...

...but I do prefer The Office.

Actually, I think I like Flight of the Conchords more than either of those shows.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 27, 2008 11:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

CSI is a hillarious!!

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 28, 2008 1:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You Know What I Find Offensive?

All the overtly religious overtones of late. It alienates non-Christians and segregates the community, considering Dave’s “of-the-cloth-ness”, so to speak.

I’m comfortable in my relationship with the Blazers, but I have seriously questioned my relationship with BEdge recently with all the talk of Christian rock, interpretations of the Bible and so on. I’m not against it – I even capitalized ‘Christian’ and ‘Bible’ – but this is Blazer’s Edge, not Bible’s Edge. That @&$# needs to go.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 27, 2008 5:19 AM PDT   1 recs

I fiond myself of two minds on this topic...

Luckily, I have a large head. On the one hand, most times when us Bedgers go off-topic, the conversation is usually tolerant, good-natured and intelligent, whether we are off topic on politics, religion, literature… whatever. I usually find myself enjoying the conversation even though it is off topic.

On the other hand, it is off topic. It is pretty flippant to say all you have to do is ignore those threads. That is true, of course, but somewhat beside the point. The point being that this is a Blazers forum.

I think that two things need to be. We need to realize that this is a Blazers forum and try to stay mostly on topic. We need to be tolerant when others go off topic and perhaps try to gently steer ourselves back on topic.

So, 12sharks, I agree with you but I think your last sentence might have been a bit overly harsh.

There, I think I’ve used the word topic just about as much as the word topic can be used in one post.

"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma

by -ken on Jul 27, 2008 6:34 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

almost as much as kevy uses proscess

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 7:36 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Getting back on topic is a process.

You’ve got to have a systematic process to process comments and come up with a workable process with which you can re-program the process of intelligent, on-topic comments. All the while making sure not to have too many tabs open, which would thereby slow down your processor speed.

Fore!

by prezofdeath on Jul 27, 2008 5:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm

Well I don’t bother reading it, and most of the time I just skip over it anyways. As someone who has been an atheist all their life, I’m pretty comfortable with my position on religious faith. I figure if you actually believe in what you believe in, it really doesn’t matter to you what others think. Especially on something on religion where you can’t prove or disprove many of the concepts.

Secondly, we seem to have a fairly large religiously oriented contingent on this site. A lot of this probably has to do with the atmosphere, it’s generally very PC, and has an older, suburban white middle class vibe to it. Although there a few yuppies/college kids here, most of the posters seem to be in their 30s or older and starting their families and stuff like that. So like it or not, this type of discussion is probably here to stay and I see no reason why it shouldn’t be allowed. After all “birds of a feather, flock together”.

Personally, what I find more annoying are all the discussions about how the discourse is becoming corrupted, blahblah. People know the general rules, so I’m guessing they post within the boundaries. This is the off season, there’s only so much we can talk about the Blazers.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 27, 2008 12:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ps

First sentence should be “well most of the time, I find it boring, so i skip over it anyways”. This is what happens when I chat, text, and post at the same time >>

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 27, 2008 12:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Suprisingly we had a demographics post

While it didn’t have a ethnic or religious element, it did speak to the age of the community.

Q: How old are you?

the answer was somewhat suprising …..the vast majority was under 30 years old (as I recall at least 50 percent).

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 27, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow really?

Well you have to figure people who don’t actually post often (or anonymous lurkers) voted in the poll. This happens a lot. I feel like most of the posters I know here are close to, or older than their 30s.

I’m 18.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 27, 2008 12:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Very possible

but yeh I was suprised too. BTW I am the ipitome “suburban white middle class” plus throw in some of that Middle Aged demo (46).

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 27, 2008 12:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

the 28 year olds

probably seem like middle aged folks to you. :)

by Section323 on Jul 27, 2008 12:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

Well yeah there’s a big difference mentally from 18 to 28, life experience and perspective, all that stuff.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 27, 2008 12:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope I don't offend you Dheepan

But you seem older (wiser?) than 18.

by Corvid on Jul 27, 2008 12:52 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I've mentioned that before as well. Dheepan is an old soul.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 27, 2008 1:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

" Dheepan is an old soul" About in need of replacement

I hear that George Carlin’s is available

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 27, 2008 2:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha

I didn’t even know who George Carlin was before he died! Funny thing is though, I’m just as profane, outside of BE of course.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 27, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I am glad you appreciated the joke

The ironic thing about it was, at least to me, was a very Carlin type of joke

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 27, 2008 5:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Have a Daily Dose o' Doonesbury

Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around

by Lizzy Lowblow on Jul 27, 2008 5:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There has been a bit too much of the religion talk lately,

the political talk too. But as a metal musician who does not play in a christian band and listens to both normal and christian metal, I’d say picking on music in any form is different than picking on the goober that uses it for their own arguments. If a topic goes to music it’s still off-topic, but unless the context was an argument about the words some christian guy sang in a song, I think your darts are hitting patrons instead of the dartboard.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 27, 2008 6:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

seriously

we talk about things all the time that dont fit into the ideas of “christians” all the time. what the hell. if you dont like anothers interpritations of the idea of god, then disagree. nobody is saying you have to belive in jesus to avoid eternal damnation in hell!! haha that was fun. but seriously, all the discution, and I read almost all of it( to the detriment of having a life) will include disclaimers like those that think this way, or this noted cultural icon believes. why are we openly discriminating against certain views? can I nominate feminist veiws. this is bs and should not be tolerated. if you are a woman hear you should be sharring recipies or dirty pics. we dont care about your opinion. no really.

having the right to your choice of religion or lack there of does not include forced silence from opposing views. thats why we still let the kkk do there little protests. our comunity would not benifit from that kind of cencership.

why do i get so offended if someone i know is talking about there idea of god? i have the right to mine? its in bad taste to cram it down anothers throat, so i dont do that.

these ideas are a little mis managed and poorly aligned, hope they find ears that can hear.

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 8:13 AM PDT to parent up   1 recs

If you read what I said again,

I said there was too much religion and politicla talk here lately. My point was, don’t blame music.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 27, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

if you read what I wrote

youll see(with this adendum) that I dont care! I dont care how much religion or a lack there of is discussed. I dont care what kind of music you like and listen too. I dont care what color underware you ware, or even if you ware underware, as long as you dont tell me what I HAVE to. i dont care.

I do find it interesting that someone that focuses on a strain of music that has been traditionally disrespected, would sugest that he doesnt want to hear about christian music talk. now, I might be misreading what your saying, I make a lot of mistakes. for example, today, my boss told me to get back to my desk and work, and I sware I thought she said to just do whatever I want. oh well, whatever.

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 12:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I actually like the varied discustion

as it grants me a deaper insight into the thoughts, motives, and lives of others, and since we are basically all the same, my self too. a little culture never hurt anyone.

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 12:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't focus on any music. If it's heavy, I listen to it.

I listen to as much “Satanic” death metal as I do “chrisitan” metal. I didn’t say anybody had to do anything. I said that blaming music for religion is kinda silly, or that’s what I meant.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

Greg Doden really brought the extra D tonight!

by MGNNoah on Jul 27, 2008 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

im straight with that

on that point we agree.

"Doing research= good
Making up things=bad."

---jksnake99

by ptwnblzr on Jul 27, 2008 12:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cool,

I’m confused as to why we are arguing, I don’t see anything either of us wrote that disagrees with the other???

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

Greg Doden really brought the extra D tonight!

by MGNNoah on Jul 27, 2008 12:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotta have something to talk about in July...

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 27, 2008 5:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs