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The Blazers are Thieves

I am a Sonics fan (or was) and fell like venting some aggression on the blazers. The blazers are thieves, constantly stealing talent from bad teams that really need it.

#1 Roy - Foye Trade.

Ridiculous. This is why the Wolves will always stink. These two guys are nearly the same age (Roy slightly younger) and were both sophomores. Pretty similar scoring and rebounding numbers. A couple differences though. The main difference is Roy shot better than 50% from the field both of his years in college. Foye was hovering just over 40%. This is a MAJOR difference. Efficiency is everything, everyone scores if they keep shooting. Any guard that can average better than 50% for an entire multi-year college career is amazing. The better scoring % is a result of being better at getting to the rim and being a better outside shooter, in other words, a vastly superior offensive player. But Foye is a PG right?  I mean, he makes up for inferior scoring ability by distributing to teammates? Oh wait, Roy averaged way more assists in college than Foye (which has contintued in the NBA). Roy isn't a 'true PG', he's too big and strong, wouldn't want a guy like that on your team.  This trade will always  mystify me. Why on earth do you take the guard thats smaller and not as good at basketball?

This is a trend we will see the sneaky Blazers repeat, ie, taking great basketball players instead of scout-fetish low-lives.

#2 The Aldridge - Thomas trade.

Again, total steal by the blazers. These two had similar numbers in college. Thomas was more of an athlete and Aldridge more of a basketball player though. I will never understand why these scouts and their teams go crazy over these athletic projects. Great athletes don't all that often figure out how to succeed in the NBA. Great basketball players are usually a lot better off. Everyone assumes you can teach basketball to an athlete. This thinking is crazy, anyone who's played basketball knows that the way they do it in the pros you either got it or you don't by the time your 20. Its actually a lot easier to take a guy who can really play the game and help him become a better athlete. The Blazers correctly predicted that Thomas wouldn't have size and athleticism advantages over NBA opponents and that would be pretty much it for him. Aldridge has had to work to improve in the NBA, but being good at playing basketball has really smoothed things over for him.

#3 Bayless

Another year, another stupid draft for most teams. Why on earth does chicago take Rose? Rose is definitely overrated. He is a great athlete, but is he a great basketball player? He's definitely not a bad player, but is he a #1 pick GREAT player? Westbrook, Rose, Bayless, etc. these guys are all great athletes, what makes Rose so superior? How did he earn the ever-elusive 'pure PG' label? Did any of these scouts watch a Memphis game? Clearly CDR was doing a big chunk of the ball handling for that squad. Memphis was a great team and Rose was a part of that, but they were also a stacked team, and Rose was not responsible for that. Enter Jerryd Bayless: Great player. Knows how to play the game like a pro. Doesn't have the 'mechanics' scouts drool over, but somehow manages to be a dead-eye shooter anyways. Only via complete and utter theft do the Blazers get this player about five spots later than he should have gone.

Ridiculous.

The Bulls won championships all through the 90's. They deserve to suck for a long time. They were even in the playoffs most of the last few years. All of the sudden they get a #1 pick? So unfair. They then blow it on a position they are OK at. Hinrich is a pretty solid point, why reach for rose? They've needed an inside scorer for years and I don't think Drew Gooden solved the problem. They had Beasley (great basketball player btw) for the taking. Stupid.

 

Thieves.

 

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Wanna hug?

I didn't mean to turn you on

by dukedee on Jul 24, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+ a kiss

Darius Miles found me.

by prezofdeath on Jul 24, 2008 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

calm down my friend

The Blazers Organization has had so many STUPID years, it’s high time for Paul Allen to hire a competant GM. Well, he didn’t ; he hired THE BEST GM EVER!

This is not Thievery but if it was then I will only allow you to compare KP to Robin Hood, us fans are, of course, the villagers.

-Sophia

PS Only a cool GM would sign him:Photobucket

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You shouldn't post pictures with the F word in them.

You might get banned.

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Jul 24, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you aren't referring to God's Gift To Women home land?

because I cant just idly stand by and let you do so.

Sophia

:P

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frenchy Batum

As long as he doesn’t start eating smelly cheese at mid-court, or throwing up the white flag during games, I’m down with him. ;-)

by SloppyJoe on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it still hip to hate on the French?

Yeah, I remember when it was all the rage back in the heady days of 2003 when they tried to stop our Presdint just as he was fixin’ to go in and lib-uh-rate all dem poor Eye-Rack-Keys from that evil guy with all them nasty nukular weapons. But we sure showed them escargots a thing or two, didn’t we?

Maybe, Blazer management can implement a similar policy at the Rose Garden concession stands? Y’know, kinda like an apology to all their patriotic American fans for contaminating their roster with a Frenchman.

by knickfan on Jul 24, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

I was kidding.

ha ha…

The better question might be: Is it still ok to joke?

by SloppyJoe on Jul 24, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad, sorry.

Shoulda realized you were making a funny. I jes’ done forgot that jokes about the French never, ever grow stale.

I’ll remember to laugh next time.

Promise.

by knickfan on Jul 24, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No sweat brother..

..and I’ll try to make a little fresher jokes next time.

by SloppyJoe on Jul 24, 2008 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever been subject to French humor?

I am on a regular basis. It becomes an acquired taste – i.e. after awhile it becomes funny because it so often isn’t.

On a slightly more serious note – the French make fun (or criticize) us and we do the same to them. I think the difference is that the French don’t let what we say bother them. I’d argue American’s need to be more like the French in this instance. Why worry what people in other countries are saying about us.

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bush, is that you?

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

Just someone who does not get his shorts bunched in a knot whenever some public opinion poll in another country says they don’t like the US.

My personal opinion is that any politician who acts based on opinion polls is either spineless or an idiot. Public opinion changes with the wind. Do you really want policy that’s based on our leaders stepping outside each morning, wetting their finger and seeing what the wind direction is?

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

wow, you have excelent post moves. I didnt agree with your privious takes, but this one we are in perfect harmony

"Who do the historians think (t)he best crop of rookies on one team[up until now] is?"
---sothern oregon

"I'd have to go with the 12 disciples.... They pretty much turned the world upside down in short order......."
---prezofdeath

".....Judas was a big bust, he was the Darko of that class."
---RoyDrexler

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I have to be careful at times. I’m both a 1st Class smartass and a sarcastic SoB, so people may get insulted when that’s not my intent. (Or at least not my primary intent.)

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

but it would be nice that when things a situation changes between monday and wednesday, that the person in charge can evaluate and make appropriate adjustments on tuesday.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 25, 2008 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batum is not French

Batum had to leave France because he plays real defense. Unlike the French Army, say. Batum seems like a nice guy, but he refuses to recognize the white flag. I think that babyface smile belies a killer underneath.

Watch out, Sophia!

'77

by LaoTzu on Jul 24, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im Italian...

what does that mean?

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That you should be even better then the French at surrendering.

Of course the Italian Army never included their women. Maybe they should have, since most guys married to an Italian girl (like one of my brothers) quickly learn who not to get angry at them.

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is very very true

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm

ok here goes. You could show your gratitude (physically…wink wink) when Brandon liberates your war torn country

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 25, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either that or

carry Mussilini’s head around on a stick…either/or

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 25, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the second suggestion

:)

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why doesn't that suprise me?

lol

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 25, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

ok your right..OL

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So do I.

Carrying around somebody’s head on a stick is cool.

Just so long as it’s not my head.

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It won't unless you acuse me of murder

or being a L*ker lover.

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only things I can see ever accusing you of..

... are being smart and cute.

What’s ironically funny, at least to me, is that when you first showed up, my initial impression was “Great, a not too bright dumpy broad.” Boy was I ever wrong. On both counts.

One reason I never try to go with first impressions. I’ve found that people who you think come across as jerks the first time often turn out to be far better people than the one’s that you think are great when you first meet. The latter group tends to have a high percentage of folks who like to look out for number 1 above all else and have learned that it’s easier to do when you ingratiate yourself with others.

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well thanks...I guess :)

“kinda dumpy” that is going on the quote wall at work, and that’s because all the menopausal middle management women accuse me of being anorexic.. ( im not i just dont eat mcdonalds for every meal and walk everywhere. ) They will get a kick out of that.

RE that story about the first words to your wife, that is priceless. So thank you.

Sophia

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sort of as a follow up.

There was this woman I met on the internet. One of the questions she asked me was why I didn’t ask to see a photo of her. She said that was one of the first things everyone else asked for. My response was that if we got to the point we wanted to meet, I’d find out then.

So the first thing she asks me when we meet is What do I think about how she looks. My response – “Well, you’re not 300 lbs and ugly as a mud fence.” Now I have to live with the fact that those were the first words – in person – that I spoke to my wife.

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

roflmao

"Who do the historians think (t)he best crop of rookies on one team[up until now] is?"
---sothern oregon

"I'd have to go with the 12 disciples.... They pretty much turned the world upside down in short order......."
---prezofdeath

".....Judas was a big bust, he was the Darko of that class."
---RoyDrexler

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Tim.....me too

First words to my wife (I am not kidding): “Your a pretty good bowler for someone with chubby calves”

I know ….weird..but whatever….14 years later still together

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 25, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first words to my gf

So you’re interested? How many people will you be bringing?

(for a rafting trip I put on every year)

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 25, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're italian...

you already know.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jul 25, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cook him a big meal and iron his clothing?

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now who is being touchy?

Threaten to carry his head on a stick.

Question to BF1: “Who is that?”
BF1: “Well on this stick is Mussolini….on this stick is my ex”

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 25, 2008 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you say French Army doesn´t play defense?

They sold some missiles to Canada. Did you see this one?

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jul 24, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

precious

No wonder the Nazi’s invaded untouched

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Jul 24, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The oxymoron was French Defense

The word play is not operative either since they stayed in their fortress until the other guys went around them and then they were gone – poof!

I hope Nic does not read English yet – no offense brother. You are most welcome here.

And Sophie is absolutely right there are more thieveries here than the three listed. Batum for Greene might look good to Houston now but defense wins championships and Nic will eat Greene’s lunch is a couple of years.

And wait until the league sees Rudy! Camby went for the possible exchange of 2nd round picks but at least Denver got something that might help the basketball team. Phoenix got a new Rolls Royce for the owner for Rudy! And Petko and Freeland may someday also be added to this list.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 24, 2008 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't he Senegalies?

Were leaving together / But still its farewell / And maybe well come back / To earth, who can tell / I guess there is no one to blame / Were leaving ground / Will things ever be the same again? / Its the final countdown...

by Y5k on Jul 25, 2008 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freedom Fries

I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jul 24, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been hating on the French

Since long before 2003 mister. It is now, has always been, and will always be, OK to make fun of the cheese eating surrender monkeys. I have no problem with Frenchies calling us oil slurping upright gorillas (no I don’t consider that a compliment) as I consider it a parallel mockery that is somewhat deserved. If your going to mock a specific cheese eating surrender monkey, you need to be very specific in your critique, and avoid French generalizations. But outside of that, all is fair in love and war. Bring it on.

And you don't eat crackers in the bed of your future, otherwise you might get....all scratchy.

by shenanigans on Jul 24, 2008 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It may not be "hip" to hate on the French as a whole

But I’m pretty sure it’s still cool to hate Parisians.

WWSBD?

TRADE 4 THE STACHE!

by nightbluefruit on Jul 25, 2008 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no,

im pretty its still france as a whole:-)

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...pretty *SURE* its....

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

stop posting pictures of E.T. in a French Uni, its disturbing.

Somebody wrote me during the draft that a guy on a Knicks blog had dubbed Pritchard "The Hamburgler". In this case the appellation seems accurate. Robble-robble. - Dave

by chrischa on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he's soo cute

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont forget, we also stole your coach. your only real choice right now is to become a blazer, and forget about the sonics forever. bayless not proven yet, but it does appear it was the steal of this years draft.

by blazer nation on Jul 24, 2008 9:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah we DID steal Mr. Sonic

Gulp.. that was pretty messed up.

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey now!

Don’t look at it as stealing. If that’s true, then we stole Martell and Brandon out from under their noses as well.

At this point, Sonics fans need any connection they can to a team that doesn’t play for Cl*y Bennett, and Portland is looking better and better. Heck, they can refer to PTB as “Seattle South” for all I care – the bandwagon is open to all comers!

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 24, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't jinx Mr. Bayless

and we didn’t steal Nate, we lured him into a steel cage with large wads of Paul Allen’s cash. Its weird though, he left a team that just put up a good fight against the eventual champions (spurs) in the western conference finals, had 2 legit all stars, and was getting to coach in a city that felt like home. His freaking nickname was Mr. Sonic. But he made the one way trip down I-5 (I presume for the money cause it sure wasn’t Fat Bo or Bassy) and hasn’t looked back since. Makes me wonder about his upcoming contract negotiations with us…

Somebody wrote me during the draft that a guy on a Knicks blog had dubbed Pritchard "The Hamburgler". In this case the appellation seems accurate. Robble-robble. - Dave

by chrischa on Jul 24, 2008 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he knew there was turmoil in the front office

he obviously didn’t want to be a part of that mess.

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously Nate is a great prognosticator

Right up there with KP. He can see the path ahead and avoid the stinking mires…

by DonkeyShins on Jul 24, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate's Sonics Stopped Listening to Him

He made them work so hard that they gave up on him, even though he got them winning. So Seattle showed no interest in keeping him. It is like Paul Allen didn;t steal him so much as he picked him up on his way to Portland from Seattle, after Nate fell off the Sonics truck.

Too weird.

'77

by LaoTzu on Jul 24, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To True LaoTzu!

Seattle never let him finish the job, the Okie’s have been regretting it ever since.

Here’s a good topic to post: Is KP just as good at evaluating Coaches as players?

Here’s wishing Nate stays/grows/finishes/retires a PTB

The Oden Era, Day 394

by Heymoe on Jul 25, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are welcome MichaelFox

Sorry that you fell victim to robber barons who stole your team. Oh, and to make you feel better, read this recent post chronicling some major screw-ups that line the Blazers glorious drafting record (I wonder if a team of Larry Bird and MJ would have won a title or two?):

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/7/22/576815/my-name-is-earl

Feel better now? I think Portland deserved to get some major talent.

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 24, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thieves--I like that.

Kevin Pritchard, Prince of Theives

by TimG on Jul 24, 2008 9:49 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much better than...

Kevin Prichard, Men in Tights.

However, not quite as funny.

by DonkeyShins on Jul 24, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If KP wore tights i would faint

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo ho ho, and a bottle of rum!!!

....................... Clamber aboard, matey!

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 24, 2008 10:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Arrrrgh!

Dress like a pirate night in the garden, now that would be fun!

Think of the KP spinoffs that could be created.

Dead GM’s tell no lies.

Yarrgh.

The Oden Era, Day 394

by Heymoe on Jul 25, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we also

stole nate thanks sonics

by BLAZERS#52 on Jul 24, 2008 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't classify Nate-gate

as such a bad thing. Just think, he could be coaching the OKC Thunder…

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no i

was say that we stole nate form the sonics it was not bad at all

by BLAZERS#52 on Jul 24, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thunder

Worst name in Basketball. Makes Wizards sound cool.

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

wizards and thunder, sound like WNBA names or minor league soccer names. No offence meant, of course

by 50backflips on Jul 24, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Wizards is an MLS name (Kansas City) and Thunder is a minor league soccer name (Minnesota).

In 20 years, they will sound like NBA names. Both are perfectly good names, people just aren’t used to them yet.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wizards at least end in S

Name the team that people follow nationally in any sport that does not end in S? Well ok – except for the bloody sox.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That does end in s

- “socks” – it’s just that someone decided that SOX made more sense. The red christmas stocking of the BoSox, by the way, is very ugly. But they’re still better than the Yankees…

by royroty on Jul 24, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you don't mean professional teams

Because the college ranks have many team names that don’t end in a ’s’. The Crimson Tide of the University of Alabama being the first that came to mind

by tingeyga on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

College names were thought up before marketing was a major

Imagine being a member of the Blue Hens? So yes I meant pro teams and the Tide has not had a national following since Bear Bryant. No offense to Alabama.

Without the T the NT is an out of date Microsoft version. Sad day.

by lee3022 on Jul 25, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there's the Jazz

and the Magic.

and while I’m not sure the average American considers the NHL a real league, there’s the Minnesota Wild (who knew?), the Colorado Avalanche and the Tampa Bay Lightning. Wow, the NHL has a lot of teams!

I think these style names are a little more modern.
I don’t really care either way, but I do think Thunder is a perfectly decent name, and seems to fit OK pretty well.

by Section323 on Jul 25, 2008 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miami Heat

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 26, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jazzes

The Magics!

The Thunders!

Thunder isn’t an AWFUL name in itself, just incredibly boring. A new team name is a chance to make something that will ring through the ages, it’s supposed to sum up a team, a community, A GROUP OF PEOPLE. Trail Blazers does that. Thunder is just generic boringness.

A team in New Mexico could be called the Thunder, or in Kansas, or in Maine. Yeah, there is thunder in OKC, but there is Thunder everywhere. It isn’t specific to the region in a way that is significant.

This wasn’t a reply to your post specifically, Rocking Harder, in case you couldn’t tell—just a general reply to add to the thread.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 27, 2008 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Heat

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 26, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woops, I did it again...

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 26, 2008 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

The worst in professional basketball are the name combinations after teams move: Memphis “Grizzlies”, Utah “Jazz”, New Orleans “Hornets”, LA “Lakers”, ...

Also a lot of college teams have some horrible names (banana slugs, little giants, ...).

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 24, 2008 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jazz, etc.

I say once a team name is established, the meaning or origin of that name doesn’t matter anymore. Just because there’s no grizzly bears roaming the suburbs in Memphis doesn’t make it a bad name. Actually of the recent expansion teams, I always liked the names Grizzlies, Heat, Hornets and Magic. Bobcats not so much. Thunder is really bad.

The Jazz and Lakers have always been in Utah and LA during my memories, so their names never seemed unusual.

by lukeyhere on Jul 24, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since Utah is the Bee Capital of the USA

it seems reasonable for them to trade names with the Hornets.I remember the Jazz in NO.

Without the T the NT is an out of date Microsoft version. Sad day.

by lee3022 on Jul 25, 2008 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The UCSC Banana Slugs . . .

instantly went from horrible name to one of the best ever the moment John Travolta donned one their t-shirts in Pulp Fiction.

by noaher on Jul 24, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

UCSC mascot history

http://wapedia.mobi/en/University_of_California%2C_Santa_Cruz?t=5.

In 1981, when the university began participating in NCAA intercollegiate sports, the then-chancellor and some student athletes declared the mascot to be the “sea lions.” Most students disliked the new mascot and offered an alternative mascot, the banana slug. In 1986, students voted via referendum to declare the banana slug the official mascot of UCSC—a vote the chancellor refused to honor, arguing that only athletes should choose the mascot. When a poll of athletes showed that they, too, wanted to be “Slugs,” the chancellor relented.

Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."

by MiledAnimal on Jul 25, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

USC-Gamecocks

A girl walked into my class with a USC sweater on once, and it just said “COCKS” on the front of it….

I was amused…

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 25, 2008 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I see guys wearing a shirt that just says "Beavers" on the front all the time.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 26, 2008 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

TCU Horned Frogs?

Wake Forest “Demon Deacons” – wth?

Of course, Ducks and Beavers – those are pretty lame team names.

In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.

by TTRocks on Jul 24, 2008 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

....Ducks, Beavers.

I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I

by TwoDeep on Jul 24, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROFL

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 25, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget

Douche and Turd Sandwich.

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am NOT clicking that link

Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."

by MiledAnimal on Jul 25, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahahaha

its just some south park, pretty funny stuff too.

"Who do the historians think (t)he best crop of rookies on one team[up until now] is?"
---sothern oregon

"I'd have to go with the 12 disciples.... They pretty much turned the world upside down in short order......."
---prezofdeath

".....Judas was a big bust, he was the Darko of that class."
---RoyDrexler

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to The Evergreen State College

Go Geoducks!

for those not in the know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoduck

Were leaving together / But still its farewell / And maybe well come back / To earth, who can tell / I guess there is no one to blame / Were leaving ground / Will things ever be the same again? / Its the final countdown...

by Y5k on Jul 25, 2008 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then there are the Fighting Methanogen's of Oregon Graduate Institute

or there would be if they fielded a team in any sport.

by timg56 on Jul 25, 2008 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too long ago, I was a Pomona College Sage Hen...

I still am, I guess.

Pretty intimidating, no?

Apologies if my first comment on BE is off-topic…

by sheriff outlaw on Jul 25, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On topic

They look more intimidating when they are playing dead.
(Should have been the 47th post, dude.)

by chezgrin on Jul 25, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Thunder...

sounds like the name for a roller derby team.

Just BEdge it.

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 24, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

now thats a sport ide watch

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 24, 2008 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually thought

that this was gonna be a serious hate-post about how we ripped off Martell, Brandon, Mr. (ex) Sonic, Paul Allen, Jonathan Stewart, etc. but I kind of liked reading the whole thing. Makes me smile to think that the next thing we’ll be stealing from Washington will be their fans…

Somebody wrote me during the draft that a guy on a Knicks blog had dubbed Pritchard "The Hamburgler". In this case the appellation seems accurate. Robble-robble. - Dave

by chrischa on Jul 24, 2008 10:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True...

But didn’t C. Bennett just gift them to us? If you were a fan of basketball in Seattle would your rather root for the Blazers or pick the typical bandwagoner teams like the Bulls or Fakers. I would have to assume with the Sonics history, that any of these teams would be poor choices.
Welcome new North Portland Blazers fans.

If you let them make you, they'll make you into paper mache.
At a distance your strong until the wind comes, then you'll crumble and blow away.
- Incubus

by ZooooomByU on Jul 24, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you be a Sonics fan?

That team doesn’t even exist. My brother was a Montreal Expos fan. I wonder who he likes now. You can join Pritchard’s army. We’ve got plenty of room for you.

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good question

I pray that I will never have to feel what ex sonics fans are going through but I wonder. I would bet that it will take about a year or so (maybe 2 for the real die hards) of grieving/mourning where they refuse to acknowledge us or much of the league for that matter. But sooner or later (as long as they don’t get the Seattle Grizzlies anytime soon) they’ll start watching the blazers. Maybe casually at first, I’m not sure what the broadcasting is like up there in relation to our sports (it would be nice if their stations were plagued like ours are with Mariners “action” for 4 hours at a time), but they’ll come around. Soon it will be no big deal to see a Roy jersey in downtown Seattle. It’ll be like seeing a Mariners jersey here, no big deal right? But the more we win (and we, will…win.) the more they’ll jump on. I can see the buses and caravans dec’d out in Blazer colors streaming south on I-5 on game night…

Somebody wrote me during the draft that a guy on a Knicks blog had dubbed Pritchard "The Hamburgler". In this case the appellation seems accurate. Robble-robble. - Dave

by chrischa on Jul 24, 2008 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TiH's avatar shows him to be a fan of Arrested Development...

which also doesn’t exist. But yes, we have room for Sonic fans.

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West

by Honka Playboy on Jul 24, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nuhuhh

I heard they’re making a movie.
Sorry, don’t have the link.

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Sweetness…...

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

I do have the link.

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dear god, man!

Why are you not putting lyrics to ‘Final Countdown’ in your .sig then! It’s your Job (pun intended)!

Let’s just hope that nobody on the Blazers’ roster ends up attending Motherboy XXX…I’m just sayin’.

by DonkeyShins on Jul 24, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lyrics ...

nothing can stop that keyboard melody!

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

That just made my day. I hope it can approach the greatness that was AD, the tv show.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jul 24, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my gosh!

I’m getting so excited! I mean, not as excited as I am for the regular season to start, but close… (I don’t wanna’ lose my Bedge membership).

Look at it this way, at least you can take him to the country club now…

by Montavilla Steve on Jul 24, 2008 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm putting out a band called The Loblaws, does that score any cool points with you?

......................... Bob, Bobby, Rob, & Robby…

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 24, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ex Sonic fans

My condolences and that is not smart mouth,you were had by one of outstanding[insert your own expletive]jerks of our time and if this wasent a family site I would dip into my sailor man vocabulary and tell you what I really think.We should lose any new guy tude and welcome any and all ex sonic fans aboard.

by southern oregon on Jul 24, 2008 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bennet Disgusts Me

But H Schultz should bet drawn and quartered outside the empty Key Arena.

Welcome to Blazermania!

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jul 24, 2008 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In my pants!

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr Starbucks

I agree. Bennett has drawn all the ire, and he certainly deserves a generous helping of it for his double talk throughout the process, but his motives were so transparent from the outset that I don’t see how Schultz could fail to see them. He probably couldn’t have done worse selling the team on eBay with a note at the bottom that said, “Shipping is actual cost plus $5. Also please make a good faith effort to keep the team in Seattle. Thanks!!”

by lukeyhere on Jul 24, 2008 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

and his tasteless, overpriced coffee sucks, too!

Give me Peets or Stumptown any day.

by knickfan on Jul 24, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

peets is good, the grlz r bettr

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 24, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stumptown

is the yum. I loves me some Stumptown and buy beans there all the time.

Totally different league than Charbucks, which I’ll still drink, but only the light roasted stuff. Everything else is burnt.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jul 24, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't consider it thievery...

It’s more like smart team and talent management. Our GM knows best how to gauge talent and potential, and goes after it. It’s not our fault other GM’s in the league aren’t as cunning or smart. KP/Penn/Allen, et al are all about making our team better.

For a true example of thievery, look at cowpoke Clay Bennett’s theft of the Sonics

by SloppyJoe on Jul 24, 2008 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Teams that have a long history of being bad in the NBA typically are so because of poor management.

by tingeyga on Jul 24, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree about Rose being overrated

and being incorrectly labeled a pure point for no apparent reason. Everyone is still drooling over him, even after he looked like a lost kid at summer league once he had to run actual plays, go against wannabe NBA athletes, and not be surrounded by superior talent to the opposition at every position on the floor (like he was at Memphis). Sure, summer league means nothing, Nate Robinson dominated summer league, yada yada yada. But isn’t it a bad sign, as a supposed “pure PG” who played for an elite program and relied heavily on athleticism, when you look terrible in the same environment that makes Nate Robinson look like a future all-star?

As I’ve said before, I think Bayless is much better right now – better handle, better shooter, better finisher, more mature game all around – and he’s also a harder worker. Which means the gap is likely to widen in the future, rather than narrow.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Jul 24, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Said

Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

-Warren Bennis USC Professor

by BlazerFan1 on Jul 24, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love this post.

I love it.
On the other hand, theft can be ugly too.
I feel really bad about the OkCity thing. Seattle aught to steel the … um …what does Oklahoma have that Seattle might want?

... I’m at a loss.

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Poop covered boots?

I bet OKC has better traffic, at least.

And you can abbreviate Oklahoma City with OKC easier than you can abbreviate Seattle.

God damn, the Sonics are in OKC… what the hell happened?!

That’s so dumb. Schultz is a buttmunch.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 24, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more.

Buttmunch all the way.
Really, just to turn the knife and salt the wound, he should name the team the OKCity Seatellites. Or Coffegrinders, or Stolenteam. Now introducing the OKCIty Stolenteam!
Ha!

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The OKC Baristas

The OKC Nirvanas

The OKC Sleepless in Seattles

The OKC Seattle eat a weiners

The OKC Not-Sonics

And so on…

Morty-murr

by Mortimer on Jul 24, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OKC Not-Sonics

Is purr fect

Darius Miles found me.

by prezofdeath on Jul 24, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was leaning

toward theOKC horse theves but I like the sound of the OKC Oil Patch Trash better.

by southern oregon on Jul 24, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OKC Oily Stains?

Were leaving together / But still its farewell / And maybe well come back / To earth, who can tell / I guess there is no one to blame / Were leaving ground / Will things ever be the same again? / Its the final countdown...

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That really amused me

Haven’t heard that one before. I can imagine Mike Rice mangling it about six different ways.

by Corvid on Jul 24, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh How About

The #x%x!$% – $&&$% – $&$x%x#@!

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the bold parts.

Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jul 24, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

okie dokes

without proper capital letters be giving them more respect than they deserve.

by southern oregon on Jul 24, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

Were leaving together / But still its farewell / And maybe well come back / To earth, who can tell / I guess there is no one to blame / Were leaving ground / Will things ever be the same again? / Its the final countdown...

by Y5k on Jul 25, 2008 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe the Okie Dokies. ;0

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 25, 2008 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Okie Dookies.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 26, 2008 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Dookies were in North Carolina.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 26, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have spelled those "Dukies", no?

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 26, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ideally,

but people will spell creatively.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 26, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rustlers

Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."

by MiledAnimal on Jul 25, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gas?

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 24, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle should run a hose down to OKC and siphon the gas out their tanks?
I like it.

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, Where's Mr. Gates?

If Bill purchased the Sonics (and crushed Bennett to a pulp), he and Paul could have a nifty little rivalry!

Lewis & Clark got nothing on these boys next year.

by Y5k on Jul 24, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I've always thought that

Gates should’ve bought the team for no other reason than to have a rivalry with Allen.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jul 24, 2008 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is busy building medical clinics in India for the lower castes

Good choice Mr Gates.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 24, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you wanna feel a bit better go back and read the "My name is Earl " post.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 24, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess someone already said that.

Next time I will read the posts first. Maybe.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 24, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but this post is not "rec" worthy IMO

The trades for Roy and Aldridge worked out great for us, but they’ve been discussed many a time and it still remains to be seen how good Foye and Thomas can be if they stay healthy and get the opportunity to play.

The take on Rose is terrible. He’s a pass first PG with insane athleticism, good size and strong defense. He is everything you want to see in a PG prospect. Bayless was outstanding value where we got him, so I agree it was another strong move by KP, but just a terrible take on Rose.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 2:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

If these things make the blazers thieves, then what are the Fakers? Robber barons?

I'm a rec whore, so sue me.

by premthegrem on Jul 24, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

in fact I’ll go as far as to say that I’m embarrassed this got rec’d. Just makes all those Blog-a-bull people calling us smug look 100% correct.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If "Greetings, Traveler" with its 10 recs for it's big 16 comments after two days at the top...

............................. ANY post, and I do mean ANY post, is “rec-worthy.”

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 24, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, forgot to finish my title-slag...

............................... You get the drift. Schmaltzy suck sells.

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

And it’s all in fun. There’s a lot of idle time these days, with nothing going on.

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by tominhawaii on Jul 24, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate fans

I wish they’d all die in a bus crash, I mean am I right?

Stoopid steekin’ fans of sports teams discussing bloggy stuff… PHOOEY with that noise!

Now a sports themed FORUM, now we’re talking. But blogs? HUMBUG I SAY.

m0r71m3r

by Mortimer on Jul 24, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hear hear!

Man I love tongue tacos - Mortimer
Only thing better is Trout on a stick roasted over an open fire - annthefan
I have a pic like that of my dog - tominhawaii

by Outlaw is Rejector on Jul 24, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The F*rum is a dirty word here years after it closed

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 24, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except that it was written by a former Sonic fan.

That kinda changes the whole thing a bit, doesn’t it… it being written by a non-Blazer fan and all?

Kinda sorta also makes it seem fair that a few fans in this particular blog are brimming with excitement and have shared their excitement in saying nearly the same thing.

I think it’s smug to comment in someone’s post that their post isn’t rec worthy… especially when said poster can’t rec their own post. At least five other people did like it enough to rec it, and it’s generated a very healthy discussion, with nearly 100 comments as of right now.

Forget the Blogabull people… why are we questioning our own? I like your opinions jksnake99, and frequently pay extra special attention to your writings, and I even like your take here on Rose (though less the LMA and Roy one… we clearly got the better of those trades at this point, no?), but don’t be hating, man.

The mere fact that this is from a non-Blazer fan makes it immediately more interesting to me (I didn’t give it a rec, though).

Just BEdge it.

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 24, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 24, 2008 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it does change things somewhat

and I admit my post was a bit smug, so apologies for that.

However, the content of the post just isn’t that good and I think the fact that it got rec’d still reflects badly on us- we should be able to identify that this analysis has gaping holes.

As I said, the Roy and LMA trades worked out great for us, and to this point we certainly have gotten the better of the deals—those deals were what got this franchise turned around. However, the post basically writes off the careers of Thomas (who has been a plus/minus monster who has languished on the bench because of veteran-loving coaches) and Foye (who’s missed a ton of time due to injuries). The conclusion, I believe, is correct- the trades were major wins for the Blazers but some of the reasoning is just not right.

The Rose comments take the cake though. They just aren’t even close. CDR doing the ball handling? No, CDR was scoring points. “Did any of these scouts watch a Memphis game?” I’m going to go with “yes,” and I bet they saw him take his team within inches of a title as a Frosh. He was the driving force behind that club, make no mistake about it.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it sounds like piling on but...

....I also agree with Gotta. I think the main problem is not that you disagreed…but that by saying it should not have been rec’d you are implying that our new friend shouldn’t have bothered writing it, which isn’t too inclusionary.

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 24, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no offense taken

I can take it. I respect your opinion.

I wasn’t implying it shouldn’t have been written… but I was implying it should have been better thought out (ie editing out the obvious fallacies) before posting.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I respect yours too

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 24, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've come to the conclusion if you write more than 4 paragraphs of coherent writing here...

.....you’ll get rec’ed.

I agree, this post was just a rant from a Non-Blazer fan.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Jul 24, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.......if you write more than 4 paragraphs of coherent writing here...

....you should get rec’d.

Homer: "Oh no!! A Bear is eating my father!." (On seeing Selma kissing Grampa)

by 92wastheyear on Jul 24, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

or even one incitful line

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank ya

Thank ya ver much (Elvis voice)

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by 92wastheyear on Jul 25, 2008 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see about Rose

All this hype for Rose is based solely upon the power of groupthink. Why is he a “pass first point”? He averaged 4.7 apg playing with a first-team all american (CDR), an NBA big man (Dorsey), and enough other talent that Memphis is a concensus top 5 team for next year even without those three guys. They were stacked. And they have a great coach. And most of the year, except for a few non-conference games, they’re playing nobodies.

Bayless averaged 4.0 apg even though he ALSO had to handle a big chunk of the scoring AND was surrounded by vastly inferior teammates (only Buddinger’s a legit NBA prospect). And his coach was a fill-in guy.

Their athleticism is equal, Bayless is better at almost everything, and Rose’s .7 more apg with superior teammates doesn’t mean much in my book. I’d take Bayless every day of the week. And I bet most GMs would too, at this point.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Jul 24, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I’d take Bayless every day of the week. And I bet most GMs would too, at this point."

I guarantee you that 30 out of 30 GMs had Rose 1st or 2nd on their boards, and summer league wouldn’t change that. There is not a single NBA GM that would rather have Bayless than Rose. I don’t know that for sure, but I am very confident that its a true statement.

That statement is so far from the truth that it pretty much discredits the rest of your post. Thus, I won’t bother further explaining why everyone is so high on Rose.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are assuming, with no basis

that NBA GMs just write off summer league completely. You are relying solely on the hype. You give absolutely no reasons why you personally would consider Rose better. You are proving my groupthink comment. At least give some rationale a shot…

He averaged 16 and 4.7. Bayless averaged 20 and 4. They’re equally athletic. Bayless absolutely destroyed him in the only thing remotely resembling NBA competition. Bayless has more skill in every area except court vision.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Jul 24, 2008 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, as for KP

If KP thought going into the draft that Bayless was better than Rose, do you think he would let anyone know about that?

Or do you think he would avoid mentioning Bayless at all, and try to make it seem like everyone else after Rose/Beasley was about equal, even though he didn’t really believe it? I think the record on this is pretty clear.

KP wanted Bayless. So he hyped other guys like Westbrook and Alexander, never said word one about Bayless, and said all the guys after Rose/Beasley are equal. It was his finest work yet. Somehow outdid himself.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

If you really think KP had Bayless ahead of Rose on his board, go ahead and believe that… just know that you are kidding yourself. Mike Barrett reported that Bayless was 4th on the Blazers’ board.
http://mikebarrettsblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/blazers-get-their-man-again.html

You are right that I base my opinion largely on others opinions- people I respect such as Jay Bilas and Chad Ford, who evaluate prospects for a living.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll grant you

he probably had Rose over Bayless before the draft, out of obligation almost. But even after the draft, if say he had Bayless second on their board, he wasn’t going to put that much pressure on the kid by actually saying it. Don’t you think?

My point is mainly post-draft: I think many people are just assuming that summer league means nothing. I think it’s at least as meaningful as college, and Rose’s absolutely dismal performance just kind of confirmed that the hype with him got out of control. I’m not saying he’ll be a bust, by any means – but he’s not ready to be an NBA PG yet, and the annointing him the next CP3 (except with more height and explosiveness) was premature.

Meanwhile, Bayless’s game is more mature than expected, and the summer league showed that his time at Az (which was a great freshman year, just overshadowed and under the radar b/c of hype with other guys who had even better years) might not have fully reflected his talents.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Jul 24, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"summer league at least meaningful as college"

No way. 4 games for JB, 2 for Rose is not nearly as meaningful as an entire season of college hoops. Just not even close.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 24, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I was overstating that a bit

It’s not like five impressive summer league games, after sucking in college, would outweigh the entire college season. But in the context here – both had strong years, and Rose perceived as better even though his stats weren’t better and his teammates were – the vast difference in their summer league performance outweighs the much closer difference in college. And, remember much of Rose’s hype was generated from his six game tourney run – one of which was against a 16 seed. Not much bigger of a sample size.

And it’s not the summer league stats – it’s the results. Bayless showed an NBA game. Rose, if anything, showed the lack of one.

Bayless isn't the second coming of Jordan.
Jordan was the first coming of Bayless.

by KP Corleone on Jul 25, 2008 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

D rose

almost led his team to an undefeated season. Not CDR, not Joey Dorsey, not anybody. D-Rose.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 25, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

by your logic

Greg Oden is a bust because of his bad summer league.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 25, 2008 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed ... terrible take on Rose.

All those negative comments based on what, two Summer League games? Even KP said, there was Rose and Beasely and then everyone else. I hate that the Bulls got Rose—they’ve already had their time in the sun, but I’m afraid now, after Rose develops some, they’ll likely be very good for many years ahead with him at the helm. I don’t like the Bulls.

I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I

by TwoDeep on Jul 24, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea seriously,

it doesn’t matter how many championships you win, you just want more. What I really want, though, is for the media to stop devoting all their face time to guys like CP3, Wade, Howard, and LeBron, writing a column everytime one of them goes to the restroom or something. Bayless didn’t get burn in the papers until it was clear he was well ahead of EVERYONE in Vegas, and now he’s suddenly off the map. Maybe this is how spurs fans feel, when they win championship after championship and still barely get as much face time as guys like Beasley and Mayo get for their college careers come draft time. When we had that 13 game win streak, we were featured constantly in the news. Then when the Nets trade Richard Jefferson for young bucks, Adrian Wojnarowski writes a column about how the Nets are clearing cap space for LeBron in 2010! Clearing cap space gets more burn than Jerryd Bayless? PTB gets zero respect from national media. But Steven A Smith shouldn’t worry, cuz we’re gonna dedicate one of our trophies to his crap about Roy and Aldridge from the 2006 draft.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 24, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not feeling Rose either

Just don’t like his eyes.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 24, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He reminds me of a Mongol

Long lost decedent of Genghis Khan.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 24, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In reality,

this whole idea of thievery is kind of flawed. Consider that in February the Gasol trade was blasted by many people around the league as being the most lopsided trade ever, a big farce, yada yada yada. Now, with Memphis having dumped Mike Miller and their pick for OJ Mayo, the Gasol trade ultimately yielding Darrell Arthur and now Marc Gasol, they have a super young core of Conley/Mayo/Gay/Arthur/Gasol, and once the crappy contracts they got from Minnesota expire, they can use that cap space either to resign the best players on their team to max contracts or get a marquee FA, or maybe both. Wallace isn’t considered a genius by any means for the Gasol trade, and it still is true that the Lakers got the better end of the deal. However, the Grizz didn’t get totally fleeced.

The problem with the blazers situation is a matter of perception. Somehow KP has garnered enough support with a number of good to great draft day moves that he is being virtually venerated as a god, and it looks like the fallout will result in more disillusioned but ignorant fans from around the league buying into the godlike image of KP (that appears to be what happened with this post). And please note when I use the word ignorant, I am referring to their lack of complete and thorough knowledge regarding the blazers situation. Roy for Foye was a bad trade when considered alone, but it got the Celtics KG. Aldridge for Thomas was truly a bad move by a team that needed good low post presence, but who knows, they may be able to develop Thomas yet. All in all, I don’t get why this post was rec’ed either, unless all the people who rec’ed it agree with michaelfox’s perception.

And Finally, this is kind of OT, but why hasn’t michaelfox commented at all? (I’m just curious).

The same thing a

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 24, 2008 5:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

whoops,

ignore the incomplete phrase.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 24, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

another whoops,

I didn’t mention the t-wolves when going over the roy-foye deal. Ultimately, the roy-foye trade was pretty bad when evaluated straight up, but it’s still to early to call it robbery on the Blazers part. Great trade by the blazers, but it isn’t like we hood-winked the t-wolves into giving up a superstar for scrubs. We didn’t absolutely know Roy was a gem, or that Foye wasn’t. We gambled, and it appears like we won.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 24, 2008 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if "we" did?

Supposedly KP has this formula for determining quality players… what if his formula predicted Roy’s gem-ness and Foye’s non-gem-ness (I know he could pan out and that he’s been fighting through injuries, I’m just saying)?

And if it was, as you put it, pretty bad when evaluated straight up… isn’t that a steal?

Just BEdge it.

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 24, 2008 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't call it a steal

because nobody at the time called it a steal. The Pau Gasol trade should be truly considered a steal, because at the time the deal was done, everybody thought it was. In my opinion words like robbery and thievery should only be used when evaluating a deal right when it’s being done. If after 10 years Marc Gasol gets the Griz like 7 titles and the fakers crash and burn, nobody is going to (or should) come out and say Chris Wallace made like a bandit with that trade. I don’t know if what I’m saying is clear, but I’ll leave it at that, so I don’t start repeating myself.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 24, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty embarassing

that a sonics fan (presumably knowledgeable about seattle or basketball) didnt know that BRoy, the best player to come out of the city in a while, played for 4 years at Washington. Which is one of the reasons he is so effective, he had time to be coached and hone his skills. sorry man, thats for callin us thieves…

"In the bonus."

by NECheen on Jul 24, 2008 7:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Going fishing

With my ex sonic fan kin in WA late August and and will listen to their tale of woe and then ask them how they feel about about geting behind a championship team.

by southern oregon on Jul 24, 2008 8:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WELCOME ALL SONICS FANS

but good luck getting tickets after the season starts…...sounds like you are starting to understand the “pritch -slap’..........pritchard is the best GM of our time ,also dont tell the rest of the league that FG% actually matters in college…...duh

by seve on Jul 24, 2008 8:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The post is clearly a set-up to allow us to gloat

But as premthegem has pointed out these trades need time to determine the results. My take is that KP is a master at knowing the other teams’ needs and helping them fill those needs. He is also a wonderful judge of talent. Sometimes people forget that KP was an excellent player for a top school with a top coach and National Champions and was a GM and coach for a minor league pro team so he has seen both ends before he went to San Antonio to learn with RC Buford and Pop for NBA Championships. Does he steal? No – there is nothing stolen here. He has made shrewd trades and made the team better with every one. But the other teams are mostly better as well. No GM should be afraid to deal with KP. They simply need to allow their process play out to prove the values of their trades.

The interesting thing we miss in these discussions is what KP did not do. He did not throw his weight around and pick up any of these free agents (don’t you think many would do a sign-and-trade to come to Portland?). He did not lose patience with the development process. We are in the last year of Raef’s contract and it is an asset now. I believe Raef is also partially responsible for the maturity coming so fast to these young players. Every other player on this team fits a plan and that plan has progressed even faster than its architect envisioned. This is Camelot folks. Enjoy these moments for all we can while we have them. In the NBA things change fast and we cannot project where we will be this time next year. What we have most in hope. Hope has been on sabbatical for a number of years and has returned. And welcome to all fans everywhere that are looking to cheer for a team of hope.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 24, 2008 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And

That Brandon Roy is overrated….

Goes to show there is a lot of ignorance out there.

by jamon51 on Jul 25, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aka 90% of the people at Blog a bull

It’s kind of hilarious actually. Every time we play them, and especially when they lose there’s a lot of “LMA sucks, he’s a rich man’s version of Joe Smith”.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 25, 2008 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a younger version

same price.

He’s not an ‘inside presence’ either way (which I read above)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 25, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

welcom

"I was playing rock band with my wife and a four year old girl, after U of H got their booty handed to them in the Sugar Bowl. My wife was playing the drums, and the little girl and I were on the couch behind her. I was just joking and pointed at my wife and whispered, "She’s a bed wetter." The little girl smile real big and said, "So am I." That really wasn’t the reaction I was going for so I just said, "All right, high five." Then she high fived me and I never joked about bed wetting again." ---tominhawii

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You never watched his game change after the allstar game

He was very good on the low block. By the end of the season he showed a lot of improvement in his low post game. Last season he averaged I think it’s silly to say just because you traded for Tryus Thomas, Aldridge doesn’t have upside. He does, he was almost as raw as Thomas when he came into the league. It’s just that Aldridge according to most sources has put in a lot of work to achieve that, while Thomas has had accusations from the local press of slacking off. You can say Skiles etc is just terrible at developing young talent and all that, but it seems like BaB is more or less illogically defending a young talent and trashing the player who at this moment is far better and has just as much potential to improve.

I mean we played at the second slowest pace of any team in the league. We played at a pace didn’t take any advantage of LMA’s terrific ability to run the floor and he still put up 17 and 8 in a grind it out half court offense. He was the only big that could score inside and was double teamed halfway through the season. Next year with Oden in the paint to rebound and to keep defenses honest, I’m guessing LMA could average 20 or 22 ppg a game. Compare that to Tyrus who barely played for a tanking team. They are only 1yr apart, and were very similar in college, but now they are nothing alike. If the Bull’s organization really had any belief in Tyrus Thomas they wouldn’t have drafted someone like Noah or traded Luol Deng to make room for Tyrus.

Now you could argue if LMA is the same from his rookie year, and he is just putting up stats because of his minutes increase, then yes, a Joe Smith comparison is more valid. But that’s not factually correct. The dude put on 20lbs on muscle during the 2007 off season. He’s not the same player from 2006-2007, and I expect he’ll be even more improved during the 2008-2009 campaign.

This like how blazer’s fans would irrationally defend Sergio Rodriguez and Martell Webster. Sure they show glimpses of potential but I don’t see too many other fans going “Martell Webster, he’s going to be in his 4th year, and he’s still a below average starter, but wow he sure has the potential to be great”. Right now, if you guys actually picked up a good/great power forward people would stop dreaming about Tyrus and start trashing him. Just like how Blazer’s fans turned on Sergio after we got Bayless.

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 25, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

woah I don't know what that "last season he averaged bit is there"

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 25, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree on LA

he really flashed some potential to be an low block scorer towards the end of last year. Regarding Thomas though, every time the Bulls played him, he showed good defense and a lot of potential. His not playing last year was terrible coaching. There was really no excuse not to have him in the lineup more.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 25, 2008 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Foye for Roy and Thomas for Aldridge were not steals at the time...

Foye and Roy were both generally thought of as good overall players. Thomas was coming off a great March. Aldridge was being compared to Channing Frye (rumors of being soft).

The Bulls and the T-wolves knew we’d trade up for Aldridge and Roy and that the guys they wanted would be available plus Vic or cash. How can that be a steal?

The steal was Bassy and Ratlif for the 7th pick and Raef.

by lama on Jul 25, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Quote of the Century

“the steal was Bassy and Ratliff for the 7th pick and Raef.”

I am sorely tempted to question your intelligence and character however, i have said/posted many a stupid things. soo I will just post this
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Telfair, 21, of Brooklyn was stopped at about 4 a.m. on the Bronx River Parkway in Yonkers, N.Y. after being clocked at 77 mph in a 45-mph zone in his Range Rover, Westchester County police spokesman Kieran O’Leary said.

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Neither Telfair nor passenger Al Eden Fuentes had a valid driver’s license, so Telfair’s SUV was set for impoundment and searched by an officer, O’Leary said. The officer quickly noticed the butt of the handgun sticking out from under the passenger seat, O’Leary added.

Telfair and Queens resident Fuentes, 28, said they knew nothing about the gun, O’Leary said. Police still were investigating whether the gun was registered.

Telfair and Fuentes pleaded not guilty Friday at Yonkers City Court to charges including felony second-degree possession of a weapon, and bail was set at $7,500. The pair was due back in court May 17.

“The players on the Celtics have been explicitly warned, this year, to obey the team and league gun prohibition as well as state laws. We take this very seriously, and will act accordingly once the facts have been determined,” owner Wyc Grousbeck said Friday night.

“We began the building process towards next year yesterday, and the last thing we want or will tolerate is a distraction along the way.”

Celtics director of basketball operations Danny Ainge declined to comment.

O’Leary said Telfair was polite and cooperative.

“Our officers said he behaved like a gentlemen,” O’Leary said.

A clerk at the Yonkers court did not have the name of Telfair’s attorney, and it could not be immediately determined who was representing him.

Telfair, the 13th pick in the 2004 NBA draft, was traded to the Celtics last year from Portland.

While Telfair was with Portland in February 2006, he was questioned after a handgun registered to his girlfriend was found in his pillowcase aboard the team’s plane at Logan International Airport in Boston. The Trail Blazers later fined Telfair and suspended him for two days.

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by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh i forgot I <3 Nic

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Leaders build cultures that create self-esteem, generate and sustain trust, elevate the dignity of work , create community and foster open communication, and finally encourage growth and learning.

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by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if Telfair had a squeaky clean record he hardly would qualify as a steal

Some players that could have been drafted instead of him (in order of draft appearance): Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Jameer Nelson, Delonte West, Kevin Martin, Sasha Vujacic, Beno Udrih, Anderson Varejao, Chris Duhon

*arguably a slightly better career

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 25, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm,

I don’t understand how that makes you question lama’s intelligence or character. If i’m not mistaken, he was saying that we got a steal by getting the 7th pick and Raef for Telfair+Ratliff. I think you misunderstood his quote.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 25, 2008 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read the team that got stolen from was the Blazers....

I dont know I can misinterpret that… I wasn’t tryin to be rude as I stated I say TONS of stupid and characterless things all the time, but that still doesn’t make sense.

If he wants to imply that the steal was what you are saying then he should have structured the sentence that way. As it stands, the sentence reads that the blazers were robbed of bassy and ratliff …

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by BlazerFan1 on Jul 25, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, sorry ladyfriend...

I’m with prem.

I interpreted it that we stole the 7th pick and RLEC for bassy and the Rattler. I’m not sure how anyone could classify that as a steal if it were the other way around.

Got BEdge?

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 25, 2008 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the exact phrase wasn't clear enough,

but then shouldn’t you have asked for a clarification rather than just straight up interpreting? Read it written the other way:

The steal was the 7th pick and Raef for Bassy and Ratliff.

I don’t see how that wording is any clearer than the original sentence.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 25, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

note,

I’m not saying that lama was clear with his sentence, I’m just saying that you shouldn’t have made the assumption one way or the other. You came down kinda hard, I’m just saying.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 25, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah she's totally right

Telefair is hard. The blazers are a soft team, Roy just enforces this image on the rest of the league. We wish we had someone with the street cred Bassy carries.

: )

Dead Finks Don't Talk
But dead finks don't talk too well
They've got a shaky sense of diction
It's not so much a living hell
It's just a dying fiction

WORD UP. STAY. FRESCO.

by Dheepan on Jul 25, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

You’d think the name Sebastian isn’t exactly one that evokes thoughts of jail-time and toughness. That name sounds about as hard to me as Frasier Crane.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 25, 2008 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybee

thats why hes tryin so hard to be a dumb—-.

"I was playing rock band with my wife and a four year old girl, after U of H got their booty handed to them in the Sugar Bowl. My wife was playing the drums, and the little girl and I were on the couch behind her. I was just joking and pointed at my wife and whispered, "She’s a bed wetter." The little girl smile real big and said, "So am I." That really wasn’t the reaction I was going for so I just said, "All right, high five." Then she high fived me and I never joked about bed wetting again." ---tominhawii

by ptwnblzr on Jul 25, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh,

dude should just stay focused on ball. There was a nice article somewhere about the dearth of pg’s coming out of NYC, (don’t know where I saw it), and it mentioned legends like Walt Frazier and steady vets like Mark Jackson. Bass was explicitly mentioned as the end of this stream of PG’s, which is a mighty sad thing to say. Kid is young though, prolly only 22-23. He’s got decent talent to play with in Minnesota, he just needs to get with the program.

Andy Roddick has the most wimbledon titles in the world. He just hides them in Federer's trophy case

by premthegrem on Jul 26, 2008 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Telfair

reminds me of that old Ray Charles tune”born to lose”,also a popular prison tat.

by southern oregon on Jul 26, 2008 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too much adjusting claims

Too little just enjoying blogging from us shouting from the roof tops & ..... “off the cuff”.

I like the overall expression and theme. KP did us gud. Weary of atty demands and their 10 day replies required. This is fun time.

Me thinks big difference.

:) :) :)

The Oden Era, Day 394

by Heymoe on Jul 25, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To clarify...

I said that incorrectly. I meant to say that the Blazers stole the 7th pick.

by lama on Jul 27, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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