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Sergio!

There's been a lot of talk about the rotation that Nate will use for our four main guards: Roy, Blake, Rudy, and Bayless. It appears that Rudy and Bayless are both basically SG who score and create. Roy is Roy. Blake is a distributor/shooter PG, but doesn't do much creating. It seems to me that the piece which is missing much consideration is Sergio.

Now granted, there is no doubt that the arrival of Rudy has something to do with Sergio's role on the team. However, KP and Nate had always been high on Sergio's potential, even though he was firmly rooted at the third PG slot all last season. Yet, with the passing of Jarrett Jack, it seems inevitable that Sergio will get more minutes (at the very LEAST at the start of the season) than he has seen in years past.

Keep  in mind that in 2006/07, Sergio averaged 3.3 assists to 1.1 turnovers in 12.9 minutes per game. Last year, obviously, these numbers slipped but I think that was a result of less playing time (and maybe even a few hard feelings).

It is my opinion that Sergio will be given the #2 PG slot (at least in name) to begin the season. Obviously Serg is a project, but I am excited to see what kind of progress he may have made in the off season. Also, the addition of fellow countryman Rudy may help motivate him. If Bayless takes minutes from him, so be it, but I believe Nate will give us another chance to see what Sergio can do this year when given significant minutes as a backup to Blake.

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Serg should and will be given a chance to be the #2 PG

I think Bayless will beat him out though. We’ll see.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 22, 2008 4:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No question.

I honestly think Sergio needs some D-League time. When he can stop screwing over the center for whatever team he plays on by taking off before the pick is set ending in a foul (how many of those for Joel last year?!?) I say we call him up and then let the competition begin. Bayless will emerge as the guy, but Blake is the steady hand we need to start right now.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 22, 2008 4:12 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio is in his third year...

... and thus can’t be D-Leagued.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 22, 2008 4:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of life's great mysteries is

why wasn’t Sergio sent to the D-league in 1st or 2nd year?

Somebody should ask KP that question and don’t settle for a “PC” answer

by two4larue on Jul 22, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it was primarily...

because if a guard went down with injury or foul trouble Sergio would have been needed desperately. Imagine if Jack or Blake had gotten into foul trouble in one of those post-all star games that Roy missed. Sergio would have been very useful. Also, in practice I’d imagine it’s better to have four guards on the roster so that 5 on 5 scrimmages can be run easily.

by erastus25 on Jul 22, 2008 7:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't know about that rule,

thanks for the knowledge. Well, he’s going to get lost in the shuffle if he can’t fix the little things then.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 22, 2008 4:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its Alley-Ops time

I can see TroutLaw, G.O, LmA, Rudy and BRoy are attacking the rim followed by a pass from Sergio. Give a guy a chance to fly this year. If things are not workout then ops, sorry Sergio.

Go Blazers.

by BlazersD00nie on Jul 22, 2008 4:30 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think he'll be given anything.

He’s going to have to show that he’s improved one way or another if he wants to get any playing time at all… with the arrival of Bayless and the stunning performance he put on during Summer League, Sergio might be stuck at the end of the bench. Keep in mind, KP and Nate have both repeatedly said that they envision Bayless as a point guard, but that he’ll need to learn it.

I think Bayless will have a longer leash than Sergio… and he’ll get more playing time sooner, too.

Unfortunately, I think Sergio’s days are numbered.

Just BEdge it.

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 22, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jul 22, 2008 5:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll need to fight for time.

I think he’ll unofficially be considered the 2nd PG during training camp, but Bayless will beat him out before opening night.

Why? Two reasons.

1) Bayless reminds Nate of what JJ1 brought to the game.
2) Bayless cares about playing defense.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 22, 2008 4:48 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well Kanye West said it best

“Sergio Rodriguez does not care about defense!”

I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jul 22, 2008 5:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm going to go out on a limb here

and be the first to predict that sometime next season, someone will accuse Nate of having a man-crush on Jerryd.

Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."

by MiledAnimal on Jul 22, 2008 5:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Why wait?

I’ll start accusing him right now of having a man-crush on Bayless. Heck, Quick even told us that MxMillan even gave him a hug already. Of course, even though we’ve only seen in him in summer league, I think there are many, many people who do right now, making it seem rational and completely justified to hug Jarryd Bayless.

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by T Darkstar on Jul 22, 2008 6:29 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can I have a Man Crush on Sergio?

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by BlazerFan1 on Jul 22, 2008 8:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

you will have to settle for a plain old asexual crush. Unless you want something more then you will have to clear it with Rebecca Harlow. or whatever that ladies name is who I never see as I dont live in the area.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 22, 2008 8:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's said, I very much enjoy seeing

Rebecca Harlow. You could even say I have a man-crush on her.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 22, 2008 8:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant, that's sad, by the way.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 22, 2008 8:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My view on the whole going before the pick is set (problem?)

Sergio used to move before the pick and roll because that was allowed in Europe….
Now Sergio still does (sometimes), but unlike Dave I think there is a reason for this:

1 – Sergio moving early enough before the pick was set isn’t a foul.. Most of the time. Since going early enough ,when the picker is still running up, gives the defender the option of running through the picker (foul on defender) or around him.

2 – Sergio was doing the right thing (sometimes and maybe more)! Really, if you watch you can see the defenders starting to slack off so they can move under the pick (based on Sergio’s shot last year this was the right thing to do and was probably in the scouting reports). So what is Sergio suppose to do? Shoot the three just for timbo, or go early enough so the defender has to go around in front the picker (whose still running/jogging up the court and has the right to be where he is). This makes the defender lose a step and actually allows Sergio to penetrate, since letting the pick set up gives Sergio a shot, but prevents him penetrating because the defender is going under the pick. I think some of times it was actually the picker who was at fault when a foul was called, since they are used to making contact (causing them to stick their hip out) and Sergio just needs them to get the defender off balance to get an advantage.

I very well might be wrong, but after watching a highlight clip from last year (I don’t remember which one), I saw Sergio going early used to perfection, allowing him to penetrate and not shooting the three.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 22, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will never understand

why folks around these parts are so willing to be so much more patient with Outlaw and Martell than with Sergio.

by howlingfantods on Jul 22, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's regression.

Fans seem to really hate players who underperform. Outlaw and Webster never showed much in the beginning. Sergio was electric in his rookie year before doing poorly in his sophomore year. A lot of people soured on Przybilla before the season started.

It’s not only Blazer fans too. Frye was a throwaway since he was Isiah’d his sophomore year. Hinrich, Gordon, and Deng or the Bulls are a whole lot less popular now than they were last year.

I guess regression forces expectations to be tempered. Since Outlaw hasn’t regressed yet, he still has the potential tag slapped onto him. I actually think Sergio will play a lot better per-minute this year, though I doubt he’ll break the 1000 minute barrier for the season.

by poster on Jul 22, 2008 6:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's also

(and this is the point I think a lot of Sergio supporters miss) that people weren’t screaming for Outlaw to get more responsibility and a better position than he was ready for. Nor were they saying the coach was racist, biased, and incompetent for not playing him more. And folks who would say, “But he didn’t have anyone as bad as Jarrett Jack taking minutes from him either” should go back and check the rosters of those years. Viktor Khryapa, Brian Skinner…these weren’t exactly a who’s who of the NBA. I bet the coaches would have loved it if Travis could have taken minutes from the chronically cranky Ruben Patterson as well.

I don’t know many people who are impatient with Sergio or wouldn’t be willing to wait a few years if he’s going to develop. It’s the discussion as much as the player or expectations that I think makes people point out his flaws.

—Dave

by Dave on Jul 22, 2008 7:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'll never understand why 2 good passes in garbage time of the next-to-last game of the year...

........................... make some people around these parts so willing to be patient with a petulant 35% shooting NBA washout PG that can’t even make the Spanish national team…

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"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 22, 2008 9:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Wrong

He’s a better outside shooter (especially his rookie year), than in close… By a LONG WAYS! Hollinger backs me up on this!

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 23, 2008 5:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry

This was meant for your other post.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 23, 2008 5:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why be so impatient???

He is 20 years old, give the kid a break for crying out loud. He was practically untouchable after his rookie year and still had some promising performances last season, like when he dropped 8 dimes in a hair under 6 minutes. Link? I dont care if you are Steve Nash, 8 assists in a half of a quarter is really, really good. Notice that every assist is to a player right where they are comfortable shooting the ball, that is not an accident, Sergio is pretty dang good at getting people the ball where they want it.

As for the Spanish team, losing your spot to Calderon and Rubio doesn’t really prove anything about Sergio’s skill level. All it proves is that Jose and Ricky are better than Sergio, which earns an emphatic duh for me….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jul 23, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He won't be happy with his position

Sergio is Speedy Claxton. Gabe Pruitt. Damon Jones. Tyronn Lue. Chucky Atkins. C.J. Watson. Aaron Brooks. You get the idea. He will be the #3 point guard on this team, either at the start of the season or soon thereafter. And that’s absolutely not what he wants to be.

Yet I really don’t see him getting much more minutes than last year, now that Roy is supposed to run the point more often and Bayless plus Rudy can also both play on his position. He will get no time on SG cause three or four other guys are better there. And he won’t be happy with his situation with the Blazers. He blames the few minutes he got with him being kicked off the Spanish Olympics team, and probably rightly so. This won’t motivate him, it will make him angry at best and depressed at worst. Honestly, I can see him demand a trade quickly, or return to Europe soon like Navarro did (Barcelona).

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 22, 2008 7:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

You make everything Cut and Dry when it isn’t even Black and White.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 22, 2008 7:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree about Europe

I think Sergio is making a good effort to make the NBA but I think Portland was the wrong place for him. He’ll make a lot more money playing and developing in Europe after this year, so why not?

That is, unless he’s made significant strides working with the shooting coach over the summer … I hope so … I’d at least like to get a little back for one of our PGs in a trade.

by kickbrass on Jul 22, 2008 7:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who sais roy is supposed to run th e poin t more often?

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by ptwnblzr on Jul 24, 2008 12:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In case anyone missed it

like I did, here’s a recent O-live article about Sergio working on his shot:

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/07/sergio_goes_to_work.html

Makes me feel slightly better. At least he’s not moping around.

by jamon51 on Jul 22, 2008 8:26 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

good link

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 22, 2008 8:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup, slightly better

Nice that he seems more willing to work out than ever and doesn’t quit. Though like with Outlaw learning to dribble confidently with his left hand a part of me cringes when I read that his coaches are proud that he is able to hit ten treys in a row or that he had “6 or 7 bad spots” last year (how many more are there?).

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 22, 2008 8:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose there

are an infinite of possible bad spots as potential 3 point shooting spots extend over the entire floor.

I dont know about anyone else but this article gave me a mental image of Sergio busting 3s with a cigarette hanging from his lips

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 22, 2008 9:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

I’d feel better if he were working on his defense.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 23, 2008 12:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good link

Hopefully Sergio has realized that this is the make-or-break year for him with the organization and will put in the extra effort to improve his shot and his D. We all know he can be an amazing passer, but he needs to polish the remainder of his game to prevent the nickname of ‘Spanish Splinters’.

by DonkeyShins on Jul 23, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio fits a need

You look at that second unit on offense and without Sergio it’s Bayless (scorer), Fernandez (scorer), Outlaw (scorer), Frye (jump shooter), and Przybilla (screen setter). No real offensive post presence, and more importantly no distributor. Where is the guy who keeps that second unit from turning into a series of games of one-on-one? Who is going to get Frye the ball in a position to be effective?

If Sergio doesn’t make his way into that second unit, Brandon Roy and/or Steve Blake are going to have to be on the floor at all times.

by Harry Manback on Jul 22, 2008 11:06 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You read my mind

I was thinking the same thing… The second unit needs a passer, period!

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 23, 2008 1:57 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Sergio took no more than 2 shots a night, none from more than 5 feet away...

...................................... 62.7% of my objection to him would immediately disappear.

"He shoots....................... he scores!!!"

by timbo on Jul 23, 2008 8:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was never an over-the-top Sergio fan

but like you, I think his passing and play-making skills will be needed this year. I think he has a chance to start out as our 2nd string PG, and, given that playing time I wouldn’t be surprised to see the development of his special talents to be quickly accelerated. And he does have special talents.

I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I

by TwoDeep on Jul 23, 2008 9:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just don't think the situation changed that much.

In fact, it’s worse for him. He may be the vet in spirit, but Bayless is Super-Jack, and Sergio didn’t take any time from Normal-Jack. Add Fernandez to the mix.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 23, 2008 9:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jack had waaaaaaaay more experience that Jerryd has.

Of course I could be wrong but unlike 95% of those posting here, I think Bayless has a ways to go before he can be effective at the point; hence I see the door opening a crack for Sergio.

I remember telling him how impressed I was with a player during summer league. In Avery's unique voice, he replied, "Marc, it's summer league." I

by TwoDeep on Jul 23, 2008 9:57 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Exactly

that’s what I was trying to say. Good work, TwoDeep.

by joelor on Jul 23, 2008 10:03 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I'm trying to syay I don't hink it matters as much as everyone else seems to.

Who cares if there a true 1 on the floor at all times. He might have waaaaaaay more experience too, but in the context you are making it out to be that would equal a solid game, good decision making, and few turnovers. And we all know that wasn’t the case. Just like it’s not the case with Sergio.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 23, 2008 10:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone else seems to?

It appears to me (like TwoDeep said) that almost everyone has jumped on that Bayless train as soon as he dropped 28 in his first summer league game. If we are going to weight summer league stats that heavily, we should notice that Sergio averaged 5.4 assists in 2007 summer league. That’s more than PK, Corey Brewer, Afflalo, DJ Strawberry, Mike Conley (actually, all but 3 players) in the 2008 summer league.

by joelor on Jul 23, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong,

I wasn’t even talking stats, I’m not pimping Bayless (who will be great), and I love Sergio. I was only trying to say the situation does not warrant him being an automatic beneficiary. I would love for him to succeed, and think he fits great with unit number two. It all depends if he can straighten himself up. Weren’t we having this conversation about Marty a year ago. I’m rooting for ya, Serge. But Bayless value transcends the position IF he lives up to potential. Go look at his eyes and tell me you don’t think he’s going to do whatever it takes to get there. He would fit playing with Roy, Blake, OR Sergio. Minutes are the issue. Where do they come from? I propose this small unit:

1-Sergio
2-Bayless
3-Rudy
4-Trout/Frye
5-Frye/Vanilla

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 23, 2008 10:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey now

If you’re going to use Sergio’s stats from summer league, look at his team. He was playing with Joel Freeland, Zendon Hamilton, PK, Taurean Green, Josh McRoberts, and three guys named Greg Oden, LaMarcus Aldridge and Martell Webster. Each of those guys were at the very least borderline pros.

Bayless, on the other hand, was playing with a slightly-improved PK, an offensively-inept Batum and… um… well, I guess that’s about it. No wonder he only averaged 1.3 assists.

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 23, 2008 1:47 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He averaged 1.3 assists because he's a ball hog.


Es una nota adicional: I don’t hate Bayless. I just do this because he’s getting too much love because of his performance in the summer league. People need to spread the love to all the players and stop hating on members of the roster.

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by tominhawaii on Jul 23, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think Bayless a ballhog,

but I do think that if you’re using summer league stats only, he dominates Sergio (even with El Clanko’s seemingly impressive assist number). Bayless just looks like a ballhog because what else was he supposed to do with that team?

Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum

by rockingharder on Jul 23, 2008 2:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tu tienes razon, amigo!

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by CatMan2 on Jul 24, 2008 11:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was? I verstehe nicht.

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by CatMan2 on Jul 25, 2008 10:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

???

I think you meant “Ich verstehe nicht.” But maybe nicht.

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by jscot on Jul 26, 2008 4:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, yo ne verstehe pas

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by CatMan2 on Jul 26, 2008 6:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by tominhawaii on Jul 23, 2008 1:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rudy is more than a scorer

Totally agreed that there is a need for a passer in the second unit, and Sergio could definitely fill that need as that is his biggest strength. Yet I wouldn’t discount Rudy’s ability (and to a certain extent Bayless’) to fill the role of the #3 passer on the team. Clearly Rudy is at his best scoring as a shooting guard with 21.1 ppg last year in the Spanish ACB. But he also recorded 3.1 apg surrounded by players of somewhat less caliber than he will have as his teammates now. From what I have seen he has better ballhandling skills and speed than at least Petko, maybe better than Sergio. And on defense, he managed to get about 4 rebounds and a little over 2 steals per game. Not too shabby.

Oh, and I like the idea of having veteran Steve Blake in the second unit after a while, once Roy and Bayless/Rudy have figured out how to play with each other as the #1 unit. Let’s face it, unless he suddenly dominates in training camp Sergio is likely to have the #2 PG position in the depth chart, but probably not in real court action.

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 23, 2008 11:18 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

really, rudy a better ball handler then sergio? can I have a glass?

rodrigious lost his confidence, period. his shot fell flat, for a year, thats it. his defence was as bad as martys or trouts. he became a young discontent, like marty, for a single season, period.

his game was significantly better his rookie season, right? what happened? who knows. mabee he doesnt get along with roy, wich has been alluded to, maybee he had other ideas about how he was going to play and develop. no clue. maybee rebecca spurned his advances when he started getting a little too serious, idk. but we all know something happened. he did not show up a talentless hack, right? he could shoot, run the fast break, find the open man, with artistic clairity, and play some soft d. what a difference a year can make.

sergios resurgence is certainly not garenteed, but niether is his demise. it turns out all stories are different, witch is why we still watch, all the variables are far from being played out. we will have to just wait and see.

he does have a few things going for him. I think his running buddy will help, and with a line up predicated on the faster pace, he might not be the only blazer at the basket, beating the ball into the ground and waiting on support as much. outlaw, no matter what has happened in the past, has a small place in his heart for sergio. and priz somehow looks like he can scor when the little white kid is in.

last years team was just not designed to be anything other then a half court offence, slow and grinding.

I think sergios just as much in kps mind as ever before. that guy thinks waaaay ahead. hes the bobby fisher of the nba and I dont think sergio will get to fail his potential on kevies watch. but, im wrong alot. and he has a lot of bad going for him. life is a serris of habbits and dicaplins. sergio, has developed some emotionaly handicapping ones, that generate failure. failure breads failure. so yah, theres room for doubt, but this storys’ not over yet.

many a hollywood epic started out as a short story.

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by ptwnblzr on Jul 24, 2008 2:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

I don't know if you're right

but I like the way you think. Rec’d.

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by CatMan2 on Jul 24, 2008 11:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welcome back...

I was just wondering where you’d been.

Hard to forget a name like yours.

Just BEdge it.

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jul 23, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't have the skills.

Those who call Bayless a scorer,ignore the fact that since High School, he was shifted to the shooting guard position at Arizona because of injuries and the fact that the next best guard was a PG – without the same scoring Bayless brought to the table – and Arizona needed the points. Af the same time, in summer league, we again saw that the coaches needed him to get points, because no one else remotely had that ability.

Bayless believes that his PG skills will come to the fore if that’s part of the role he is asked to play. He just hasn’t had much opportunity to hone those skills since high school. I happen to believe he’s right. And so does KP.

It may take 40 games, but by then, whatever time Segio has been getting will be gone. Fernandez is also believed to be an effective passer.

Further, keep in mind that Blake is as pure point, whereas Roy can also play PG, and, as Mac points out, he wants the ball in Roys hands in the 4th quarter. In this sense we have 1 and 1/2 PG’s already on the roster. That means we need only 1/2 of a PG, and it’s likely the Blazers will give increasing amount of that time to Bayless, or even Fernandez to enable them to grow those skills.

The Blazers seem convinced that Bayless and Fernandez are the future, and that, combined with Blake and Roy, guarantees only that Sergio will be on the bench or gone in a year. Granted, he may get some time during the transtion, but have no illusions, Sergio has read the same reports on Bayless the rest of us have, and he wasn’t even accepted for the Spanish Olympic team, whereas Fernandez was the 1st choice. Neither in Spain, nor here, do the coaches or teams think that he has the skills to compete with players like Bayless or Fernandez.

by Eben Calder on Jul 23, 2008 5:01 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sergio was a very late first round pick

Might have slipped to 30 if Paul Allen hadn’t spent money.

Bayless, even at 11, was judged to have much greater talent and potential. And most think Bayless was better than an 11 pick.

I doubt anyone on the team thinks Sergio is ahead of Jerryd on the depth chart, or that he has much chance of getting and staying ahead of him.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jul 23, 2008 6:54 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bayless is a Chemistry Killer

I heard that he’s the reason Lute Olson got a divorce and left the team for a year.

--. --- | -... .-.. .- --.. . .-. ...

by tominhawaii on Jul 23, 2008 7:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I heard he works for Darius Miles.

I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.

by MGNNoah on Jul 23, 2008 7:26 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll never understand

Why a bad sophomore season renders a good rookie season (for his nba readiness and where he was drafted) forgettable.

Also, his biggest problem last year, Sergio’s shot, isn’t so much non existence but broken last year.

[from Segio’s rookie year] He also needs to make more shots. Rodriguez shot only 42.3 percent, including 28.2 percent on 3-pointers, and averaged only 11.5 points per 40 minutes. Based on that, you might think it’s his long-range shooting that’s the problem, but actually he’s even worse finishing around the basket.

Though not a 3-point shooter, Rodriguez made 56.3 percent of his long-range 2s last season—one of the best rates in the league. But closer in, he really struggled. – Hollinger

- http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=3025&univLogin02=stateChanged

Or Sergio’s decision to man up and work on his shot?

How can BE feel bad about the way Jack was treated and then turn the other cheek and run Sergio into the ground? If I recall it wasn’t until filtered reports from the bias Spanish media portraying Sergio as unhappy and angry at the Blazers that Sergio became cool to hate.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 23, 2008 6:05 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if only i had red a little further

i wouldnt of had to post

"As long as Yao is in the league, Greg Oden will probably never start in an all-star game, because he doesn’t have 1 Billion people voting for him."
silkybrown

"Just so we're totally clear(, y)ou’re saying you want me to kill Yao, right?"
nightbluefruit

by ptwnblzr on Jul 24, 2008 2:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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