3 R.O.Y. Candidates. 1 team.
by nep4life on Jul 21, 2008 7:11 AM PDT
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Is it possible to have 3 rookie of the year Candidates on one team?
No. I guess not. That would be crazy. Unheard of. Out of the question.
Oh wait. Unless that team is the 08-09 Portland TRAIL BLAZERS!
Fellas, (and lady fellas) we have ourselves a conundrum. Lets bang on it.
Granted the ROY usually goes to a talented rookie on a weaker team where he can put up a 100 shots a game, and that's not gonna happen on this loaded weapon 1 line-up that we currently have.
BUT STILL. Its fun to talk about and get excited for.
SO:
Who do you think has the best chance of being rookie of the year (on the Blazers).
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hmmmm
None of the rookies besides GO are gonna be getting enough playing time to put up enough big numbers…so in otherwords…its gotta be GO!
by jjudd43 on Jul 21, 2008 7:32 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You don't have an "other"...
I’m going with Hill. The man’s a beast.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
by -ken on Jul 21, 2008 7:37 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Oden, and it's not even gonna be close
But let’s lose the Lincoln malarky, please.
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by CatMan2 on Jul 21, 2008 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked "Black Lincoln"
THE EMANCIPATOR, freeing us from our ring-less fingers!
All I want is 40 championships and a mule, pal. Reparations for the Jail Blazer years, the 2000 WCF, running into Jordan, the Pistons, Walton getting hurt, Sam Bowie, ALL OF THAT.
Oden will free us from everything that has chained this franchise down.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jul 21, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I love Oden The Black Lincoln, or the Emancipator, lol. It’s not going to catch on outside of BEdge but it doesn’t matter.
A Time For Heroes,
It's not right for young lungs to be coughing up blood
And it's all
It's all in my hands
And its all up the walls
Well the stale chips were up and the hopes stakes were down
Until Kp came into Town!
'Sing it Petey!
by Dheepan on Jul 21, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Black Lincoln
is sooooooooo dang dope!
Ball Don't Lie
by bothteamsplayedhard on Jul 21, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Batman
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He can still be your personal ROY
Even if he doesn’t make the All-Rookie team (or the Blazers rotation for that matter). Everybody on the roster needs supporters, otherwise “Trading X or Y” discussions wouldn’t be fun ;-)
Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
by Norsktroll on Jul 21, 2008 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
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That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you just ask him to marry you and be done with it?
I’m sure that you can send a marriage proposal to him via the team’s PR department.
Stop the swooning and start making some moves, baby! Send him some flowers or something. Jump his bones if you get a chance. Take him into the supply room and have your way with him.
Where have all the flowers gone?
by bilingual octopus on Jul 22, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the Blazers, I go with Oden as the ROY
League-wide, GO will have to battle it out with Beasley and maybe Mayo, I presume. Though Rose might have the better career long term, he has little chance to become the top rookie. And while Rudy has the most experience and a spectacular game, he won’t get enough playing time behind ROY Roy, yet should be able to demonstrate enough of his abilities to get a nod for the rookie selection at the All-Star break and/or after the regular season (maybe second team).
Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
by Norsktroll on Jul 21, 2008 8:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GO is the go guy
This could all shift by mid-season. Then it will get interesting. By then, we could have a three guard rotation with Roy at 35 min’s, and Bayless and Fernandez at 25-30. Blake could be down to 10. Sergio would simply sit on the pines. And those kinds of minutes could get both Bayless and Fernandez some pretty good stats. Still, I think GO is the most likely candidate. But it doesn’t mean we won’t have another one or two on the all rookie team.
As far as the others, Mayo’s and Beasely seem to be the current choice. However, Bayless has one thing Mayo doesn’t have, which is his motor. And that motor might give him better stats than Mayo. As far as Fernandez, we’ll simply have to wait and see. However, given how right KP has been proven to be on Bayless, you have to wonder about Rudy. KP’s always said he’d have been a top 10 pick in this years draft.
Also, has any team in the NBA ever had three rookies come in in one year like this group?
I’ll bet the answer is no. Two, maybe. But three? Unheard of.
by Eben Calder on Jul 21, 2008 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How can we be sure that
Blake will be down to 10 minutes? That is terribly minimal and especially for the guy that ran, succesfully , the offense last season. I am not convinced that Bayless is going to come in and snap up all the PT from one of our proven and effective vets . He will get pt but not that much and Blakey will still be our main PG.
Regarding Rudy, well only time will tell. I think he is going to light up some nights and struggle others, frankly because the defense in the NBA is lightyears ahead of that in his league.
Good post though.
-Sophia
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The defense in Europe (top leagues) isn't worse than in the NBA
Despite the soft image, the game in Europe under FIBA rules is a tough one. Case in point: New German citizen Chris Kaman playing in the Olympic qualifier stating something along the lines of “man, they play rugby out there. We don’t have that in the NBA”.
More zone defense. Moving blocks. Pushing and hand checking. Other goaltending rules. Still taking charges directly under the basket. So it’s different, but the NBA isn’t light years ahead by any stretch of the imagination. Rudy will be fine playing against NBA competition.
Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
by Norsktroll on Jul 21, 2008 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just from my narrow point of view because I have not watched much w/ my own eyes
I saw soft all around. Perhaps the team was just inferior in general and of course there are terrible defensive teams in the NBA but I saw slow movement on pretty basic screen sets. Also, the way the zone played out seemed pretty fundamental to me- basically it would be easy for someone as good as Rudy to read a basic zone and blow through it.
Again, however, my frame of referance is pretty limited so im not saying im absolutely correct.
-Sophia
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO in a landslide
(1) ROY voters like players that make a huge impact. GO’s amazing strength and athleticism, plus his sheer beastliness and gap-toothed-grin marketing marvellosity and magnetic charisma will put him way ahead of the rookpack.
(2) The Blazers will jump to 50+ wins this season and GO will get the credit for it.
(3) As jjudd43 wrote, other rookies will have to play the kind of minutes Oden will play even to have a chance to compete with him for the ROY. That pretty much eliminates J-Bay and Rudy from contention, as well as most of the rooks on other teams.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Jul 21, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3 ROY Candidates =
Are You Kidding Me?
Wait, no you’re not. With Jerryd “The Heart of a Lion” Bayless roaring onto the scene, our wildest summertime dreams have amped up yet another level.
3 ROY candidates in one year + BRoy/LMA/G.O. = one very special time in Blazer history.
This kinda stuff just isn’t supposed to happen.
If we win 50+ games it will be because Oden dominates the paint. GO will thus win the ROY, this despite the outside shooting/slashing display of Rudy and the passion and ferocious play of JB.
50+ wins = G.O. is ROY
The Oden Era, Day 390
by Heymoe on Jul 21, 2008 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoopsworld say its Bayless or Oden
Hoopsworld published their scorecard for the top 10 draftees summer league today. Essentially, they say Love and Beasely will like get some Roy notice “but”, the only place the ROY award will go next year is to the Blazers and Bayless or Oden. The rest – sorry guys.
by Eben Calder on Jul 21, 2008 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The all star weekend
should be pretty interesting with three possible guys.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jul 21, 2008 11:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
in the rookie class
who knows what the rest of it will look like.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jul 21, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha our entire team against durant horford etc etc
lol
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I propose
at NBA All-Star Weekend, the league throws together a team of all the best non-PTB rookies and sophomores. That team plays against the Blazers.
Jerryd Bayless has two emotions: Kill and Win.
"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Nicolas Batum
by rockingharder on Jul 21, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good plan
:)
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN-TrueHoops
ESPN ranks Rudy #5 on their list of the top 50 rookies. That’s #5. How’s that for what some people think of Fernandez? Makes KP’s assertion that Fernandez would’ve been a top 10 pick all the more credible.
by Eben Calder on Jul 21, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
this is fun
but really there’s only one award that matters: the Larry O’brien trophy. And its coming home to P-town in the VERY NEAR future. I can’t wait for the hyperbole that Walton is going to spew as his dilated pupils weep salty tears of joy and his soul swims in bottomless pools of delight and lollipops.
That said: I think Senor Fernandez is going to put up a few HUGE games. We know that BRoy isn’t going to play all 82. And when he sits one out and RUDY catches FUEGO. Look out below! I wouldn’t be surprised if he drops 40+ a few times this next season.
Thanks for everyone who answered the poll. OneLove from rainy Amsterdam.
Write it down: rings in 2010. ODEN = BLACK LINCOLN!
by nep4life on Jul 21, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
wow +1
wel done i especiall like “i cant wait for te hyperbole that walton is going to spew”
-Sophia
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to be a heretic,
but do you see bayless or fernandez ever outshining Brandon at some point in the “blazer dynasty?” Obviously right now Roy is the unquestioned leader of the franchise, but these things do change. To be honest, I would prefer Roy to be the permanent leader of this “dynasty”, but we just have so many guys with potential…I dunno if Roy has more talent than ALL of them.
I'm a rec whore, so sue me.
by premthegrem on Jul 21, 2008 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They may be better at some point
But I still think Roy’s leadership abilities and calm demeanor will always make him the head honcho.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Jul 21, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well maybe
co-honcho with Oden.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Jul 21, 2008 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point is that Oden is the "hollywood " type franchise player
Roy is the leader
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 21, 2008 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then,
do you guys see Roy becoming like a (dare I say it) Derek Fisher type of leader, where he has to coexist and actually defer to Bryant in most scenarios, or do you see him being an MJ type leader (or maybe something in between that hasn’t been emulated by any teams before). I personally would like for Roy to become our “MJ”, but obviously that is asking for a bit much from anyone. To make it simple, the fact is that I would prefer that Roy be hailed as the next MJ rather than Oden be hailed as the next dominant center, but obviously that just isn’t how it shakes out right now.
I'm a rec whore, so sue me.
by premthegrem on Jul 21, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who knows
I think he could take a huge leap forward this year….....he’ll certainly play a larger role than Fish, even long term. Dude’s talented and he’s not finished improving by a long shot.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
by iDea on Jul 21, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's all I can hope for.
I'm a rec whore, so sue me.
by premthegrem on Jul 21, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think the old Knicks
Roy is Walt Frazier.
But then there was Willis Reed, the phenomenal center.
And Bill Bradley.
And Dave Debusschere.
So many guys could absolutely kill you.
Debusschere did more to beat the L@kers over seven games than Reed did, but Reed got the attention. But Reed was the real thing, for sure.
And Frazier? He just made sure that Reed had a chance to be the hero. He certainly “coexisted” and “deferred” to the other guys a LOT, but still managed to make the all-league team every year.
I hope Roy is never our MJ. We’ve got too many weapons for that. I hope he’s our Walt Frazier.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 22, 2008 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully we will win more than 1 championship though : )
I agree, Roy will probably be a perennial allstar. I think LMA has a shot at accomplishing that as well.
Bayless and Rudy have potential to go there intermittently as well.
A Time For Heroes,
It's not right for young lungs to be coughing up blood
And it's all
It's all in my hands
And its all up the walls
Well the stale chips were up and the hopes stakes were down
Until Kp came into Town!
'Sing it Petey!
by Dheepan on Jul 22, 2008 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they won in 73, too, didn't they?
But we should win more than two.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 22, 2008 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Nep,
How do you feel about strange houseguests? I would cut out vital organs to live in Amsterdam. That’s awesome!
I want to be tucked in by Greg Oden and have him tell us stories about the old days.
by MGNNoah on Jul 22, 2008 7:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Amsterdam is overrated
There is dog crap all over the streets and if you hang out in the “coffee shops” every day you’ll become a zombie. Might as well just kick it at home, flip on the tube and take a bong hit.
Where have all the flowers gone?
by bilingual octopus on Jul 22, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Portland in the 1970s...
except substitute rain for dog crap.
Asked his specialty in the kitchen, Oden paused and said, "Hamburger Helper and tuna fish."
by MiledAnimal on Jul 22, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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