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west pick for the playoffs for 08-09

from what i have seen in the draft and early f/a signings this is what i think will unfold next season in the west.

#1 LA lakers 60-22                               on the outside looking in

#2 N.O.      55-27                                   #9  suns 48-34

#3  utah      54-28                                 #10 denver   47-35

#4 S.A.       54-28                                 #11 golden state   40-42

#5  dallas   53-29                       

#6  houston  53-29

#7  portland  51-31

#8  LA clippers 50-32 

so what do you guys think on target or not close

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here's what I think

In this order: L*kers – Jazz – Spurs – Hornets – Rockets – Suns – Blazers – Clippers
or something like that.

by noaher on Jul 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close

I think your top four are right. I think Dallas may miss the dance and Golden State is a ship headed for the rocks. I think Phoenix and Denver will take the spots in there for Dallas and LA Clippers.

by AZBlazer on Jul 2, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Clipps sign Brand

And B. Dizzle stays healthy, they’re in.

BLZRS FRVR

by nightbluefruit on Jul 2, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

They’re not going to improve enough to jump past the Suns though. PHX still has a lot of talent on that roster and this is one of the few cases where Nash is actually more durable than the opposing guard. Plus, the PHX training staff seems to have rejuvenated Shaq. It was only 2 months ago that many analysts and several of our own Blazers were saying the winner of the Suns/Spurs series was the odds-on favorite to win the title. They’re not done yet.

by erastus25 on Jul 2, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't excluding the suns

LAL
LAC
PHX
UTH
NOH
SAS
HOU
POR

...not in any particular order.

BLZRS FRVR

by nightbluefruit on Jul 2, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was referring back to the OP when I was talking about discounting the Suns. Came off confusing because I wasn’t clear enough.

by erastus25 on Jul 2, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big ifs

But still.

BLZRS FRVR

by nightbluefruit on Jul 2, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come on Finnish, I can't wait all night!

You said “I agree with this being”... what the rest, the suspense is killing me.

(I just love posting nonsense.)

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Jul 2, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And overestimate rick Carlisle.

Mavs are done. Book it.

BLZRS FRVR

by nightbluefruit on Jul 2, 2008 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

More likely than the Suns being done!

JKidd is olddd. There’s a reason, other than his attitude, that NJ was so willing to dump him.

by erastus25 on Jul 2, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If JKidd gets much older...

he is going to be playing is position from a wheelchair. :)

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Jul 2, 2008 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thnik the suns are getting older faster then dallas is

by topher223 on Jul 2, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How does one person age faster than another?

Are they closer to the equator and thus have to travel further around the sun every year?

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Jul 2, 2008 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too bad!

If everyone stays somewhat healthy, this is a conservative guess as to where we are

1. L*kers 64-18
2. Hornets 56-26
3. Jazz 54-28
4. Rockets 53-29
5. Spurs 53-29
6. Suns 52-30
7. Blazers 50-32
8. Denver 48-34

by lefty6283 on Jul 2, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the pessimist

With the PTBs counting on big production from 3 rookies, they make 1 last final last appearance in the lottery.

1) LAL
2) NOH
3) UTH
4) HOU
5) SAS
6) LAC
7) PHX
8) DAL
9) PDX
10) DEN
11) SAC
12) MIN
13) GSW
14) SEA
15) MEM

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 2, 2008 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You're not a homer, but you run the risk of being

just as bad in the other direction. You’re like Linus from Peanuts. (That was the engative one right?)

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Jul 2, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Pigpen?

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 2, 2008 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just contemplating this
1 Hornets 57-25
#2 Spurs 55-27
#3 Rockets 55-27
#4 Lakers 54-28
#5 Blazers 53-29
#6 Jazz 53-29
#7 Suns 51-31
#8 Clippers 49-33

The Mavericks, Warriors, and Nuggets don’t make it. So we’re mostly in agreement, but I think the Lakers and Mavericks do worse that you think, and the Suns a little better. I see even more parity in the West this year, with only Sacramento, Memphis, and Seattle totally sucking. Denver will just miss the playoffs, Minnesota and Golden State will compete, especially at home.

by baduk on Jul 2, 2008 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the topic is picks for the playoffs

Spurs and Rockets can’t be #2 and #3.

by noaher on Jul 2, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

with those records the seeding would be:

1) Hornets
2) Spurs
3) Lakers (pacific champs)
4) Blazers (nw champs)
5) Rockets
6) Jazz
7) Suns
8) Clips

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 2, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suns over Mavs

Oden/Pryz
LMA/Frye
WebFoot/Trout
Roy/Rudy
Blake/Bayless
**Champs 08-09**

by BigCelPhone on Jul 2, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No way

According to my calculations, you have the bottom 4 teams averaging only 12.5 wins each.

by pualo on Jul 2, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait hold on...I forgot about the eastern conference

Still, I think it looks a little to overbalanced toward the top.

by pualo on Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he has them all destroying the east

wouldn’t be the first time.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

man you guys are all crazy

1) Hornets
2) Jazz
3) Spurs
4) Lakers
5) Blazers
6) Suns
7) Mavs
8)Rockets

Nuggets, Clips, GSW out.

Clips- 2 man teams will no longer make the playoffs, and Denver barely counts as 3 people

Golden State- doesn’t have the guts to spend the money needed to improve their roster, even with picking up Maguette from the Clips

Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...

by TheOdenator on Jul 2, 2008 3:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Noaher...

If you are going to try and correct every B-edger on thier grammer you are going to have yourself a full-time job…

Unless you were just trying to be a punk, and in that case Don’t! It’s not good for blogger morale.

by Portland Dynasty on Jul 2, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you for pointing that out.

I have no intention of correcting other people, but I do like to correct myself. I feel an apology is in order.

by noaher on Jul 2, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Thornton

and Mobley

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 2, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thornton >>> Mobley

He’s old for a 2nd year player (like 25 or so, older than Roy), but he’s a pretty good offensive player and I think he’ll likely have a good year.

I’m not convinced the Clippers will make the playoffs though; that bench is weak weak weak, and Baron Davis fresh off a long term deal doesn’t always equal successories.

I could be wrong, and Baron coming home might make the Good Baron show up, but I don’t know if they’ll be better than their 48 win team that went to the 2nd round.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 3, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you really see us as better...

... than PHX (w/ Nash and Amare), Dal (w/ Dirk et al) and Houston (who has owned us for years)?

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 2, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some would say...

The Clippers are skating on thin ice and my money says they don’t last the season without a devastating injury. History and Karma back me up here (Livingston, Brand, plus the whole “Kid Brother” mentality they have in LA) and now they’re acquiring a guy with two shaky knees and betting that a pretty immobile power forward can recover from a torn ACL injury.

Thornton and Kaman have improved, but in my opinion, Davis makes them just good enough to be in the conversation, but as the Warriors showed this year, not strong enough to make any noise. Mobley’s best season was 2 years ago, when almost all of the Clippers had good seasons, and he’s a Doug Christie-esque shell of his former self.

The Hornets haven’t improved their roster at all, and Peja is aging exponentially at this point, but with Chris Paul, I would say it’s easy to make the case that they should be preseason favorites for Western Conference supremacy. The Spurs, Jazz, and Lkers are also mortal locks for the playoffs. San Antonio gets a healthy Manu, the Jazz will have their core together plus any shooting guard willing to take the MLE, and the Lkers, well, we’ll see how good Bynum is once he returns, but even with their current roster, they’re top 4.

I see the Rockets, the Mavericks, the Blazers, the Suns and the Nuggets rounding out “Tier 2” of the Western Conference. The Rockets are a bad match up for us, but a lot of this has changed now that we have Greg Oden covering Yao and not Joel P. Joel wasn’t strong enough to handle Yao in the post, but Oden is. Phoenix could be a top 3 seed if all goes according to plan, but it’s likely they’ll suffer an injury and fall down to the 6-8 territory.

The interesting thing is most everyone is counting on staying healthy and it seems like whoever stays healthy the longest will do the most damage. This is much different than say the Eastern Conference where players don’t work hard enough night in and night out to get injured…

"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)

by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jul 2, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sidenote...

How do you get an asterisk to show up without bolding your entire post?

”*”

"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)

by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jul 2, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let Me Try

and if it works, I can tell you. I was wondering this myself.

∗ <- is this an asterisk?

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 2, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

If you type the word “lowast” (minus the apostrophes) with an ampersand before it and a semicolon after it, you’re golden.

i.e. & lowast ; (without the spaces).

∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗∗

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jul 2, 2008 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forecasting an injury problem is Reverse-Bad-Kharma

This is truth: Just because a player is injured in the past, doesn’t mean he is ever going to have a serious injury again. I know there are examples, but there are equal examples on both sides. Factors that are out of control of anyone. Accidents are “freak”. I had two knee surgery’s (one on each leg) when I was in highschool and have never had a problem since. Oden has had knee surgery and there is nothing that says he has to have another serious injury. There are no guarantees that players that are drafted or that go to a team (like the Clippers) are destined to have serious injury problems. That is bad-call material and can reverse a curse of bad-kharma back our way, so I would refrain from claiming injury is coming.

Aside from forecasting injuries, It looks like the Clippers have some great pieces that should make them competitive, but they will definitely need to sign someone to be in thier SF rotation. Mickael Peitrus or Matt Barnes or Jarvis Hayes or James Jones or Bostjan Nachbar or someone to help at the 3. They probably need another body in the post to shore up depth. But with Big-Time players like Baron Davis, Elton Brand, Chris Kaman, Al Thornton and rookie guard Eric Gordon joining the mix, this is an exciting group who could be motivated to play spoiler for some teams. They don’t have a big window right now, but they could break hearts in 08-09!!!

PG Baron Davis, B.Knight, S.Parker
SG Cuttino Mobley, (R) E.Gordon
SF Al Thornton
PF Elton Brand, N.Fazakas, J.Powell
FC Chris Kaman, (R) DeAndre Jordan

by Portland Dynasty on Jul 2, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You two should apologize to everyone else for making us cry whilst you argued

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Jul 2, 2008 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here ya go noaher...

Quit being so hard on yourself, correcting yourself can be very confusing. Keep your chin up, I have faith that you can get through it. Seriously, bro, hang in there.

by Portland Dynasty on Jul 2, 2008 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams in order of record, not playoff seeding….

1. Lakers (Bynum + Gasol for full season)
2. Rockets
3. Hornets
4. Spurs
5. Blazers
6. Jazz
7. Suns
8. Clippers

Out:
9. Mavericks
10. Nuggets
11. Warriors

by Portland Dynasty on Jul 2, 2008 3:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're in the playoffs for sure,

esp with a few of last yrs playoff teams going down hill {mavs, nugs, warriors, suns}

but i highly doubt we will be seeded higher than 5, we just are too young, and the west has some REALLY good teams right now.

we will be a top teir team in a year or two

by KObeHater on Jul 2, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Combined Voting of B-Edgers....

I combined all the forecasted Western Conference leaders on a spreadsheet and added a value for thier rankings in the standings based on top 12 teams (for this I added in the Kings as team 12 since they were actually mentioned with the other 11 teams that have a legit shot at the playoffs). Eight B-edgers posted rankings and I factored them all in. Here is the combined rankings for next year with their total points:

1 Lakers 90
2 Hornets 84
3 Jazz 75
4 Spurs 72
5 Rockets 65
6 Suns 53
7 Blazers 51
8 Clippers 43
9 Mavericks 39
10 Nuggets 25
11 Warriors 18
12 Kings 9

What do you think?

by Portland Dynasty on Jul 2, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems reasonable

The Kings weren’t bad this recent season (like 3 less wins than us) and I see the Warriors falling waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off, into Ricky Rubio sweepstakes land.

I don’t think the Kings will really IMPROVE necessarily, but they’ll be in that grey area where they aren’t a playoff team and not bad enough to get a great draft pick (without bucking the odds). That’s a tough area to be in, and worse than the 1st round playoff exit cycle of doom.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 3, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few notes

1. Everyone here is overestimateing all the win totals. The easy series sweeps just are NOT going to be there next year as Memphis, the Clippers and Minnesota all got substantially better this offseason and all their young players are a year older. Instead of the whopping 8 50-win teams we saw last year, look for only 5 next year, Portland, unfortunately, not being one of them.

2. Almost everyone here is underestimating the Suns. After the trade, they had such a short time together before the playoffs this year and when Nash is on your team Chemistry becomes a top priority. Look for this team to get home court advantage next playoffs after learnin how to play together with a new coach.

3. Houston is about to explode with W’s. They have had how many years in a row with major injury issues? I have a feeling this is the year where things finally go right for them and they make it through the season without any depressing news. I see them as a 2-seed and a WCF appearance.

4. San Antonio will do what they did last regular season but even more of it. LOSE. They rest their old bodies during the season and try to surge late, but it ain’t gunna work no mo’. They will barely be over 500 but they will be the most dangerous 8 seed ever.

5. Dallas will be similar to the Suns in that they will bounce back after a trade that caused chemistry problems on the court. With Kidd at the point, they will start playing like we once feared they could.

Check back here 9 months from now, you’ll see the following picks are fer real.

1. LA Lakers
2. Houston Rockets
3. New Orleans Hornets
4. Phoenix Suns
5. Dallas Mavericks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Portland Zers
8. San Antonio Spurs

Both Teams Played Hard
Both Teams Played Hard
Both Teams Played Hard

by Kelsoballa on Jul 2, 2008 5:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"This year will be different!"

  1. Teams that are not in playoff contention at the All-Star break tend to lose nearly all of their remaining road games. So if you want to see how those teams will fare for the season, check their schedule. It remains to be seen if there will be seven fifty win teams again – I think yes.

  2. The Suns got older, and lost their mojo. We all like Terry Porter, but there’s little evidence so far Kerr is going to give him the tools he needs to compete, and yes, I do mean Shaq ain’t it.

  3. When it comes to injuries in the NBA, past performance is predictive of future performance, particularly for players with a lot of mileage and/or chronic injuries. The chances of both Yao and McGrady playing more than 70 games this year are vanishingly small.

  4. San Antonio will retool with some slightly younger complimentary pieces, like they do in every odd numbered year – they’ve won titles in the last three.

  5. Dallas’ problems, like Phoenix, are serious enough that just having a new coach isn’t going to fix them. People have figured out how to defend Dirk, and the pieces around him aren’t getting the job done. Sure, it could turn around, but most people here doubt it.

So we’ll see how it’s going in April 2009.

by baduk on Jul 2, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Assumption, Counter-assumption

1) Did you check? I’d be interested to see how that plays out. It’d be seriously tough to go through that whole process. If you have the time, let us know. Until then, Kesbollahs point makes sense. The disparity isn’t as great this upcoming season as it was in the last one The logic behind the lottery makes this point worth considering. You may have a hunch that there will be as many teams winning 50 games, but the lottery logic says no no. If you come up with something regarding specific schedules that reduces the significance and re-introduces the disparity (although this time it’s based in apathy rather than absence of talent), then I’ll buy into it.

2) Kerr talked about getting some picks, put a half-court coach in place. Not running could significantly help the suns. Austin got his Mojo back. Heck, Stella even got her Groove. Why can’t Shaq grab a few rebounds. We’ll see, but they were still very competitive toward the end of the year. How many practices did they have last season with a HUGE component of their team? Not many, not enough in any case. Give them some time. They’re older and Shaq’s getting worse. Amare’s getting better. If they click, they’ll be good.

3) I’ve never heard vanish used as an adverb before. That was awesome. What’s that slogan about the stock market: “PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE PERFORMANCE.” Yea, this is the NBA, so things are different. Still, these are humans. It’s deeper than what you’re saying. Chronically injured people are usually whiners about getting back to duty. Sometimes the only way to get over this is to draw blood, win tons of games and have some success, see 22 win streak. They’ll want it this year because they can feel it now. They know they can win. They’ll put more effort than we’ve ever seen out of em before. I project at least 140 games started between both Ming and McGrady.

4) I don’t know, but this sounds right to me. Really the one point of Kesbolla’s I didn’t like. Spurs are a top team next year

Not even going to put five on there. I don’t like the mavs

5)

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by hobobob on Jul 2, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Underestimating the Suns?

The average of posts above ranked the Suns 6th seed, where you are putting them 4th. That isn’t too much of an “underrated” call. Middle of the pack playoff bound no matter which way you slice it.

by Portland Dynasty on Jul 2, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody will be that great ...

Nobody will be that bad. The truth is that even the bottom feeders of the western conference got better this summer, especially the Clippers, Wolves, and Grizzlies. Western teams will be beating each other up all season long. The teams with the best records will be the teams who make it through the season with the fewest injuries.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Jul 2, 2008 5:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's mine:

1. New Orleans
2. LAL
3. Utah
4. Houston
5. Phoenix
6. San Antonio
7. Portland
8. Dallas

And here’s my prediction…you heard it here first. The 7th seeded Portland Trailblazers knock the 2nd seeded Los Angeles Lakers out of the playoffs. As a result, Kobe retires and becomes Michael Jordan’s butler. Phil Jackson quits the team and finally decides to ask Jeanie Buss to marry him…she says “no.”

by JasonT on Jul 2, 2008 6:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, how sweet would that be for a first round matchup

I just got major chills thinking about that. It’s a very real possibility!

by noaher on Jul 2, 2008 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even a sweeter 2nd round match up

1-LAL
2- Utah
3- New Orleans
4-Houston
5- Portland
6-San Antonio
7- Clippers
8- Golden State

Suns and Dallas both fade. Warriors surprise with Monta running the show. Kings surprise and just miss the playoffs.

Oden vs Yao in 1st round, and we get the L*kers in the second round.

by gardenofoden on Jul 2, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Portland (the city and team) would love that matchup.

It’s only a matter of time before we drive the steak in their heart.

by JasonT on Jul 2, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or should I say "stake"?

Although too much steak isn’t good for your heart either.

by JasonT on Jul 2, 2008 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the L*akers get the one seed,

I’d rather have the 8th seed. Last year we had LA’s number, and played really well against them. If we get the 7th seed, then we would probably have to play N.O. or San Antonio, which would be though.

by Trail Blazer on Jul 2, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think NO finishes with a better record than the Lakers.

The Lakers are too fragile mentally to bounce back totally from their embarrassing defeat to the Celtics. That being said, finishing 2nd in the Western conference is still very good.

by JasonT on Jul 2, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if so

i’d take the 7th seed. Whatever we have to do to eliminate the L*kers in the first round. The Lakers are the new Mavs, finals loss to first round upset to another exit in the first round.

by Trail Blazer on Jul 2, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my stab at it

Although this will all be subject to change by the time the season is actually starting.

1) Lakers - hate to say it, but they’re going to be good
2) San Antonio - Looks like they’re picking up Maggette, Ginobili will be healthy
5) Utah - we’re not taking the Pacific Division title just yet
3) New Orleans - continuing to remind us that John Nash really messed up that draft
4) Phoenix - Terry Porter is the man
6) Houston - McGrady gets one more shot at Utah to get out of the first round
7) Denver Nuggets - Carmelo takes it to another level, still they’re not great
8) Portland Trail Blazers - we BARELY sneak in and lose handily in the first round

9) LA Clippers - Boom Dizzle can’t quite get them over the hump
10) Dallas Mavericks - Team underachieves and collapses before the all-star break
11) Sacramento Kings - They’ll continue to quietly overachieve with a bad roster
12) Memphis Grizzlies - A little better this year
13) Minnesota Timberwolves - ditto
14) Golden State Warriors - they don’t have a point guard
15) Oklahoma City Evildoers—Clay Bennett is a cruel, soulless man

by kickbrass on Jul 2, 2008 7:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

woops

messed up the seedings at the top—NO should be seeded ahead of Utah.

by kickbrass on Jul 2, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

uhhh

switch the Clips with the Thuggets, the Grizz will be at the bottom, and Oklahoma will do better then everyone will expect.

by Trail Blazer on Jul 2, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is great

I also was just contemplating the how the West will be won next season and I’m glad there is a fanpost to comment in.

As I was putting together my own regular season record predictions for the West, I realised that nearly every team was vulnerable. That, combined with the parity of the top 10 teams, makes it almost impossible to feel comfortable (for me at least) to predict win-loss records.

There are some teams that are near locks to make the playoffs, but that doesn’t mean their seeding can be nailed down. Here’s a quick rundown of why no team in contention for the playoffs is safe in the West (in no particular order).

Mavericks: Getting Old, no post players, must rely on jumpshots. I don’t see how they make the playoffs without another team underperforming or getting injured.

Nuggets: vulnerable to injuries, no true PG, not a “team”, play in same division as blazers. The nuggets seemed to be held together by bits of string and chewing gum. They will still be dangerous offensively, but their inability to do anything meaningful in the playoffs is sign they’re on their way out. They are a borderline lottery team depending on health.

Suns: 3/5 starters are old and falling apart, not enough shooters, no D. This is a team that could go deep into the playoffs or end up in the lottery. They are the biggest wildcard in the West. I, personally, don’t see how Shaq, Nash and Hill can make it through a whole season. They will limp into the playoffs.

Clippers: history of futility and injuries, no depth, The starters look good on paper (so do the Blazers) but that doesn’t mean they can get it done. Baron and company couldn’t get it done in GS with 48 wins…..does anyone think the Clippers can pull out a season like that? A close call here, but their curse will not be lifted, back to the lottery.

Kings: no PG, old front court, no depth. The Kings seemed to be playing above their head last season and I think they’ll come down a bit next season.

Warriors: lost Baron, could have worst starting 5 in the west this year. Some sports writers are stating that GS’s current lineup would rival the Grizzles, Wolves and Sonics. Ouch. Baring a big FA signing, the Warriors plummet out of contention in the West.

Jazz: They can’t seem to play D without fouling and Boozers’ inconsistent end of year play could be a sign of bad things to come. This is one team that looks pretty good for next year, but you never can tell, right? They will compete for the NW division title and make the playoffs.

Hornets: no bench, Peja is getting old. The Hornets should be pretty solid but their lack of depth, especially at the 4 and 5 could come back to hurt them. This is another team that looks like a lock for the playoffs. (Ok, some of these reviews aren’t that bad).

Lkers: Everyone should know how to play the Lkers after reviewing tapes of the finals. Of course, not everyone will be able to accomplish what the Celtics did, but the game plan is there. They are soft and you can get into their heads. Anyone with a strong 3 can attack “the machine” and Radmonivic and pretty much have their way. All of that being said, they are still probably the best team out West next year.

Spurs: OLD, OLD, OLD, no bench. They will stll be in the playoffs due to the Big 3, great team play and experience, but an injury to Manu (like in the playoffs), for example, would completely derail them. Dangerous, but in one of their last years of serious conention.

Rockets: Obviously, injuries to T-Mac and Yao are the Rockets main concern. As a consequence of that the ability of their backups to play well in their stead will determine where Houston ends up. If they can play like they did during the streak then the Rockets will have a similar season as they did last year. If not, well, it’s over. I’d be surprised if neither Yao or McGrady spends a significant (15 games min.) out over the course of the year. They will make the playoffs if they stay healthy enough.

Lastly, the Blazers. Actually, it seems a little silly of me to point out what everyone here already knows. So, I suppose I’ll talk about what I became more aware of after really putting some thought into the state of the Western Conference.
1. There are 5 teams (GS, Dal, Phx, Den, Hou) that finished higher than us last year who could easily finish below us this year. All of these teams have crucial issues to address and/or prepare for it they wish to make the playoffs.
2. The parity of the West will once again make the playoff race extemely tight in the 4-10 spots and maybe even futher down. That means that the borderline teams listed above are in even more danger than they would be other seasons. Small issues will be magnified by the small margin of error.
3. Even with a certain degree of homerism, we have a legit bench, especially compared to a lot of the teams in the West. I don’t think I appreciated our bench until I really looked over the backups on some of the other squads.

The street lights is on.

by Magnum on Jul 3, 2008 12:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

asterix problems!

my bad

The street lights is on.

by Magnum on Jul 3, 2008 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brand could mess this up

I’m holding off on any definitive predictions until we see:
1. Where Elton Brand ends up
2. Where Maggette ends up
3. If Artest is traded
4. All other FA signings are done
5. Any injuries to key players over the Summer

by erastus25 on Jul 3, 2008 6:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lakers down from that, Dallas down and maybe out...

"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08

by timbo on Jul 3, 2008 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lakers down?

why?

They return everyone plus get Bynum back.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jul 3, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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