Scout's-Eye View
We had the great fortune to sit down with Mike Born, the Blazers’ Director of NBA Scouting, for the first half of last night’s game versus Minnesota. Mr. Born shared his impressions of Summer League, player development, and what the team is looking for. I wanted this piece to be live, giving first-hand impressions of the ongoing action, but the arena was too loud for a tape recording device to be employed effectively. Therefore the reflections attributed to Mr. Born are from notes. They are conceptually accurate but the responsibility for the literal wording is mostly mine. In other words, take the broad picture from the discussion but don’t get hung up reading too much into specific wording. Blazersedge: Give us a general idea of what you’re looking for when you come to Summer League. The process isn’t necessarily about individual games. We’re looking for progress from the players. We’re comparing guys to what we’ve seen from them in other leagues or on film. How well are they picking up the game? How have their skills developed? How are they handling this level of competition? We want to get minutes for our three main players and see what they do with the experience. We’ve got an eye out for players who might be able to play for us in the future. We’re not just looking at our own guys either. I went to the Orlando Summer League and I’ve seen every game since I’ve been here. You want to be able to identify talented players who could help down the line. Blazersedge: What specific things are you looking for from the players participating? Summer League is a time for experimentation. We’ve seen so much film on these guys. We know their styles and tendencies. We want to see how they handle different situations and different opponents. Some of these players have not seen opponents this quick. Some are not used to the roles they’re playing. How will they respond? In our last game one of our players got run into hard and then got an elbow upside the head. How does he come back from that? Does he shy away or does he come back aggressively? How they compete is as important as anything. Blazersedge: How much can Summer League really tell you? It’s a comparatively small piece of the puzzle. It’s part of a much larger body of work that stretches back through their prior experience and for some will continue on through fall camp and pre-season. It’s not a major piece, but it’s a piece. Blazersedge: So we should be careful not to read too much into this week? That’s generally accurate. Something you have to remember is that these guys are young. Their games will improve over time. Part of the Summer League process is for them to understand their weaknesses, what they need to work on to make it. We want those things to become clear to them. We look for teaching moments in games and in practice. Blazersedge: Sometimes we fans tend to overreact or make snap judgments about a guy after one or two games… You have to remember not every guy will score 20, here or on the main team. Not everybody is brought in to do that. In fact some of the guys you think the least of could have an easier transition onto the main team than guys who are more noticeable. Utility players tend to improve as they get better players around them. They’re able to fit in. Understanding a player’s role is important. Our guards here are mainly scorers…that’s their strength. Batum is one of those utility guys who is not going to stand out in an environment like this. Of course you hope he plays aggressively and scores well but scoring is not the only measure of his game. Blazersedge: Expand on that a little. Down on the floor, what are you noticing about Batum? He’s running the floor. He’s matched up against Corey Brewer, who is athletic and has NBA experience. This is a good test for him. We're looking for him to be an active individual defender, a good team defender, and to recognize defensive situations. To this point Brewer hasn’t scored. (Ed. Note: Brewer went 0-4 and scored 1 point for the game.) We want Batum to get experience defending this kind of player. We want to see him defend, run the floor, rebound and then push the ball, hit a shot when open, and play efficiently. Blazersedge: How much of a problem is it that he appears to be drifting to the weak side corner and then standing on offense? Not much at this point. Remember this team is designed for the guards to score. Also Batum averaged 12 points per game in France. We don’t expect him to come in and be a dominant offensive player here. He’s available for the guards to pass to, but we want to see other things that might not show up statistically. Blazersedge: Petteri Koponen is quickly becoming a favorite and seems to be having a good week. What do you see from him? He’s a scorer. He brings energy, can defend, and is unselfish. He’s getting experience handling the ball against quick guards. He hasn’t had to bring the ball up or make decisions against this kind of pressure before. Many opposing guards are trying to get a job in this league by being active defensively. Petteri may not see active defense like this anywhere else. Blazersedge: This brings up a question: How much different is Summer League from college or Europe? It’s hard to generalize. Europe has so many different levels. Guys who were on major college programs or in the highest levels of Europe would have seen competition like this. For others it’s more of an adjustment. Blazersedge: What are the biggest adjustments for a player, not just in Summer League but in the NBA in general? What are these guys facing? Players are bigger, longer, more athletic. A point guard may have been coming off a screen and facing a guy 6’4” and another guy 6’9”. Now you come off of the screen and are trapped by Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming. Those extra inches against you make a difference. The floor feels much smaller when defenders are larger and can move quicker. There’s not as much space to move freely. There aren’t as many angles to make passes. You can’t see the court the same way. Plus you’re playing against guys with multiple skills. You may be used to sagging off of an offensive player. In the NBA you usually can’t do that the same way. You also have to understand the players on your team. The right move on a play is often determined by who is next to you. Is that guy over at the three-point line a shooter? Should you give up the ball to him or drive? You have to understand the strengths and weaknesses of ten guys on the court and play accordingly. Blazersedge: Complete this sentence for us: Summer League will be a success if… …if we feel like our players walk away with a good learning experience. Many thanks to Mike Born for taking the time to share his experience with us. If you ever have the chance to speak with him, the experience is both enlightening and entertaining. --Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Excellent post
I found a ton of Mike Born’s insights helpful. The fan, generally speaking and I’m not trying to exclude myself here, can have such tunnel vision when trying to evaluate players. I think the Batum example is a perfect illustration of this. We (ME) think “Oh my gosh, this guy is total crap. Why did we draft him?” The coaches and scouts are using completely different lenses to view these players than the fans, and are likely coming to very different conclusions about their games. It’s a good reminder that there is a reason there are “professional” scouts and evlauaters of talent. It’s a skill that has to be devloped and it requires thinking about the game from a much different mind-set than the casual fan. Great stuff.
by noaher on Jul 18, 2008 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Nectar
Thanks Dave and Mr. Born.
Your pal,
Tom
"He is one of several very talented young players who has a great upside," Nuggets coach Jeff Bzdelik said about Qyntel Woods
by tominhawaii on Jul 18, 2008 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting insight
Yeah I think people freaked about Batum after 2 games. Still his second game was pretty terrible, even if he isn’t asked to score, he just seemed very passive,
A Time For Heroes,
It's not right for young lungs to be coughing up blood
And it's all
It's all in my hands
And its all up the walls
Well the stale chips were up and the hopes stakes were down
Until Kp came into Town!
'Sing it Petey!
by Dheepan on Jul 18, 2008 3:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He did have that sweet block though
A Time For Heroes,
It's not right for young lungs to be coughing up blood
And it's all
It's all in my hands
And its all up the walls
Well the stale chips were up and the hopes stakes were down
Until Kp came into Town!
'Sing it Petey!
by Dheepan on Jul 18, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blazersedge: Complete this sentence for us: Summer League will be a success if… …if we feel like our players walk away with a good learning experience.
Then what’s this about Koponen needing to prove himself in the Summer League? I think Summer League means a lot more to the Blazers in evaluating the “bubble players” than he lets on.
by jamon51 on Jul 18, 2008 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgone Conclusions?
I agree jamon. It sickens me a little to think that the vibe going into Summer Leage was that Batum pretty much had his spot on the roster sewn up. Meanwhile, Petteri was a 50/50 shot at best. I hold out hope that his chances have improved with his decent showing three games in. I realize some of these “odds” on making the team are based on what the Blazers’ needs are and that a 4th point guard doesn’t rate quite as high as a small forward to replace the departing James Jones. Still, I know it already, I will be pretty ticked off if the level of individual play remains the same and Batum gets a spot while Petteri gets shipped out.
by MrGrinch on Jul 18, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
If it were a case of Batum being a Rudy Fernandez game-changer in his original European league and Petteri riding the bench in the Finnish league I could understand them making the decision before summer league. But instead, Batum is a somewhat better than average player on a terrible team in a decent league vs. the best player on the best team in a mediocre league. I’m not knocking Batum but I’m wondering what else Koponen has to do to earn a spot.
Here’s a what if scenario. Let’s say Greg Oden played in the Finnish League and won MVP. Would we say “yeah, but it’s the Finnish league so he must not be that good” ? ... no, the fact that Koponen dominated the Finnish league and is doing quite well in the NBA Summer League has to earn him consideration. Whereas Batum has played quite terribly (yeah, he’s had a few buckets, but they were the fast break or long jumper variety, and very inconsistent—plus all the turnovers) and yet he has apparently nothing to prove.
This is why I think summer league has to count for more than just a “learning experience.”
by jamon51 on Jul 18, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax
When KP says Koponen can get a spot if he plays well, they’ve already pretty much decided he’s coming over. And if they are that close, then he was probably seen as likely to come over even before he arrived.
They sent him away last year to work on being a scoring threat, probably 2-3 other things, and to get his military service out of the way, and he’s done what they asked, and they knew it before he ever arrived.
I guarantee you, they are not going to give a guy a guaranteed contract and lock up a roster spot based on 2-3 good summer league games. Summer League for PK is simply confirming what they already thought about him. But it’s nice, because we get to see it, too.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 19, 2008 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's racism.
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by tominhawaii on Jul 19, 2008 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else think that PK
looks like the late River Phoenix??


Mortimer: "It’ll be so nice I’ll need microfracture—ON MY WEINER."
by 92wastheyear on Jul 19, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been seeing
Kevin Bacon …
"We will do nice things!" - Rudy, 07/01/08
by jorga on Jul 19, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Summer League is Fool's Gold
Great players look like crap in summer league. Crap players look great in summer league. It’s a mirage. It’s not just bad for evaluating NBA talent, it can be downright deceptive. Enjoy it for what is but do not think for one second that you have any special insight into how the upcoming season’s going to be or how a player’s career is going to play out based on what they do in Vegas. Summer League will punk you, year after year.
by Jumbo on Jul 18, 2008 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, Jumbo...
but I really think you have to look at other things rather than simply who scores the most or is the flashiest, etc… I think you have to look at intangibles a lot more.
I had a really bad feeling the first time I watched Bassy play in summer league that he wasn’t going to be a good fit for the Blazers. Why? Two things I saw in the first game:
1: All the Blazers players were wearing black shoes. Since basketball players don’t wear black shoes very often and since they all were doing so, it was an obvious act of unity. Except Bassy, he was wearing bright red shoes.
2: At one point in that game, during a time out, Coach Bayno pulled Bassy over and said, “Don’t forget you have four teammates.” Bassy took the inbounds pass, turned around and fired a long three pointer pretty much all in one motion. He made it, but that wasn’t the point.
From these observations, I took it that he was not a team player and that he was more concerned with looking cool than with being coached. If I had only been looking at performance I would have gone with the brilliant, flashy scorer and passer and missed what I still feel were more important signs.
I brought these things up at the time on a distant message board in a far away galaxy and was laughed down. I think the intervening years have shown me to be right.
All of which is a long winded and self serving way of saying that there is a lot to be learned from summer league, you just have to look a little bit beyond simple basketball.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
by -ken on Jul 19, 2008 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, not pyrite at all
As the interview points out, summer league is not about assessing athletic talent so much, but about looking at other things, like a player’s ability to learn and willingness to work with coaches.
It’s neat that fans can be so close to the action. Ken, good Bassy story. I believe I remember your comments from that distant message board and appreciated them (even if I didn’t have the fortitude to sign up and say so). Weren’t you high on Brandon right from the get-go the next summer?
by Corvid on Jul 19, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it was two summers later...
but yes I was. On the other hand, I’ve never been high on Webster.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
by -ken on Jul 19, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team is not about choosing one player over another
but about developing and assessing (and by the players themselves) as so well stated here by Mike. I get that the players are assigned a role and are evaluated on how they respond to that assignment as well as how they perform within it.
Dave you and Ben are shattering the stereotype of bloggers to the Blazer brass and getting more and more access because you handle it with such professionalism class (sorry – I almost blew your amateur standing).
Thanks for the terrific job and thanks to Mike for the insights.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jul 19, 2008 1:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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