Bayless’ shot certainly isn’t a textbook thing of beauty, but there are plenty of guys with hideous shots who shoot solid percentages. It’s way too early to judge how effective Jerryd’s shot will be in the pros. Interesting breakdown though. Rec’d.

I’ve noticed the that he pushes his shot too. As a result, his shots don’t have as much arc as it should.

his jumpshot reminds me of pargo. he kinda pushes the ball too when he shoots. same lift on his shot too. i think he just needs to get his legs under him more. maybe he’s tired…he probably hasnt played in a while so he’s getting his conditioning and stroke back. i got no worries.

Very informative.

Now there are flaws in his shot but that doesn’t mean it’s not effective. Just look at Shawn Marion, actually scratch that, you might hurt your eyes watching that for prolonged periods of time.

I’m hesitant to say he’s not a good jump shooter because I’ve hardly seen him take jumpshots the past two games. He might be in a slump, which is natural, but it seems like he is going to drive to the rim whenever he has the ball. So based on his small sample size in summer league I’m really iffy on whether he can shoot the rock or not. I do however, have a creeping fear that he cannot shoot the ball. But it’s really illogical to think so at the moment, so I’ll wait till the real season to make that judgment.

Overall though, I’m not worried about his jump shot, because with his work ethic anything is possible. He may not be an effective shooter next year but he will be, that to me is unquestionable.

His work ethic is really kind of scary.

The thing that makes me believe that he will become a good shooter is the strength of the base of his shot. The base of a jump shot is the feet, legs, and shoulders. As you noted, is footwork is good. His legs are under him, and he seems to have good balance. His shoulders are almost always square to the hoop, and he does tuck is elbow in well. The “Base” of his shot is solid.

The weaknesses in his shot can easily be fixed. One’s follow though can easily be fixed, and could be fixed within weeks of him working with Blazer’s shooting coaches. As he gets rid of the push on his release, he will get more arc in his shot. The newly found arc will allow the ball to go farther with less work, reducing the amount his knees have to bend.

I think he will be able to clean it all up even before the season starts, due to the expert coaching he will receive from the Blazers.

I am also a student of shooting mechanics and I think JB and PK will benefit from the Blazer school of coaching but I remember thinking,Clyde could you get just a little bit of arc on your shot?

Yeah, he pushes the ball. That motion comes from not having the ball on the tips of you fingers, but rather in the palm of the hand. A lot guys with small hands do this.

While it is true that you can find decent shooters with less than perfect form, as others have mentioned, the reason that form counts is that it affects both shooting percentage, release time and arc. Even if Bayless shoots a reasonable percentage, say 45-47%, he’ll have less time to get his shot off in the pros and, at the very least, must correct those existing habits that add milliseconds to his release. As a sometime ball player who has had to change almost everything about his original shooting form over the past decade or more, I know that the change isn’t easy, but it’s possible. I see Bayless looking much better by the end of the season and also having rough patches.

I have to agree on the shooting. He does a little shove with the ball and I didn’t see much spin on some of those shots. The arc seemed consistently flat.

it’s “herald”, not “harold” (the one you used is a name).

Sorry about the criticism on wording above (and, I have to say it, sorry.. it’s JErryd, not JArryd), but this is totally the kind of thing I look for on Blazer’s Edge. I may be able to nitpick typos and misuses, but I couldn’t hold a candle to your perceptions on J form. Honestly, when I watch a game, I have enough trouble figuring out whether the D is zone or man-to-man. I watch Ray Allen highlights on YouTube and think “that looks pretty good”, but couldn’t tell you the first thing about, say, Jerryd’s shot. Perhaps others here can, and perhaps others here are full of smoke, but you undeniably put together a strong post on your highly-tuned perceptions of his shot, and for that I congratulate you. Super-duper rec, and keep up the good work. It was even well-formatted (header-2s, header-3s, etc.)! A big “thanks”.

This is going to be blow your minds but shooting motion does not a good shooter make.

other players on the Blazers you care to comment on? I was troubled by the lack of elevation on Batum’s jumper myself.

As for Bayless, you seem spot on. I think some other posters touched one other thing that Bayless does, which is palm the ball, I always try and make my fingers wide and then pinch my thumb and pinkie together as I am shooting to make the ball come of my pointer and middle fingers. Any comment on that? It is a Ray Allen tip that I felt helped me.

A little off topic, but could you comment on Kevin Martin? I have always contended that he has an unorthodox wind up, but is solid in everything else.

Also, who do you think has the best mechanics in the league both currently and your all time? I know this may not be popular, but Corey Magette has a really beautiful shot in my opinion. Goes straight up with his feet together and shoots at the top of his stroke and really holds his follow through.

I am excited to hear your thoughts.

Having seen him about 3-4 times, I can assure you that Jerryd is a very good jumpshooter. He shot 45.8 from the floor and as many are seeing here he does have the ability to get to the rim but during the season at Arizona a LOT of his shots were of the mid-range pull-up J which he hit with a very good clip.

A lot of his jumpshots were pretty high difficulty as well, jumping as high as he does and with a guy in his face, but he still hit with a good clip. I have no worries right now as the it seems that everybody in SL is having a hard time with their shot and I attribute that to not playing for the past month, especially with Bayless having to do workouts, combine, media stuff and so on. Last game his shot came back to him as 5-11 on jumpers.

Lastly just because NBA defenses are better than college defenses, the drop and jump shooting percentage should apply to all players that come out of college. So I don’t think your statment that defenders that are quicker in the NBA, will be able to guard his shot more effectively than anyone else.

A young Ray Allen saying that the bigest adjustment to the NBA game was having to get your shot off faster because the defenders were so much taller and quicker

is his nearly flawless ability to create space in the midrange area. I agree with Earl (recc’d this post) but I do think his quickness and footwork allow him to take just a little more time on his jumper than others who aren’t so quick. It allows him to be less hurried and focus more clearly on the hoop.

I wish I could find it, but in one of the first summer league games he hit a jumper from the baseline. He started from the top of the key, drove left at an angle, turned toward the hoop slightly, then bang he sidestepped quickly out and to the left, elevated, and nailed the shot smoothly. It was the first moment I thought “wow, this guy could not only be NBA ready but actually a major piece.” It reminded me a little of J.R. Rider’s turnaround J but smoother and with less falling away.

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