Is Luol Deng better then Outlaw?

Wasn’t it Webster a couple of minutes ago? I had even replied in that thread….....

He had a down season last year and was still better than Outlaw by pretty much any measure you could come up with.

Outlaw’s nice because he’s a really good player with a reasonable contract, but Deng’s the better player.

Deng for Outlaw (or webster).

why are we offering either…goodness lay off #25

For Martell would be a steal,I value Travis slightly higher because of his crunch time gear but the largest hole in our roster is the lack of an sf who can play NBA level defense.Deng is not great but is considered above average and trading Martell at this point would help with the free agent situation next year.

After doing some YouTube research it appears that Deng is a strong 3 who gets to the rim. I think the Blazers need to make sure the man filling that 3 spot is an absolute bomber from behind the arc. With Oden, Roy and now Bayless providing “get to the rim at will” power to the squad, we need to keep the floor spread with a deep threat, and both Webster and Outlaw fill those shoes better than Deng would.

At sf and Roy and Rudy aint that bad from long range and any coach with a sf who can score can run picks on Trout and Martell to his hearts content.

just because he went thru coach K’s grinder… hes a better basketball player.. a potential franchise player

There. I said it. We have one-and-a-half SFs, and that’s counting Batum as the half. Unless you count Roy, who can play anywhere (Go BRoy!).

It would be nice if Martell could have a great season. It’s possible. But it’s not likely. Frankly, I would move him if I could get value, because we are crowded with talent at the 2.

I would hate to see Outlaw go because I still think he has talent he hasn’t touched. If we are going to be the Odenators, and rule the league for a decade, we could use to solid at SF.

Nice posts, BlazerFan1! Personally, I hated to see Jones go. I understand it if it’s a sacrifice to insure time for these two. But since Webster’s not a SF but a slow 2-guard…

Deng is a very good midrange shooter. He rarely pulls up for the 3-pointer (Bulls fans hope he develops the long range shot this offseason). He is an above average rebounder at the small forward position. He’s a good cutter, if anyone can get him the ball. He had a down seaon last year, but the year before he had a great shooting percentage and was very efficient offensively. I’ve never heard anyone complain about his defense, so I’m assuming that means he’s at least decent. The Bulls as a team were very good defensively until last year (when they sucked), and that was with Ben Gordon (known as a very bad defender) getting significant minutes. There really is no comparison between Deng and Outlaw as players, as Deng is a lot better.

Last summer, Deng was supposed to be developing a post game (because he played some power forward at Duke), but that never happened. A few years back there were rumors going around that he would play some shooting guard in order to cause matchup problems because of his size, but that never happened either.

Overall, Luol is a good player. On the Blazers, with Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge and Oden, Deng would be a great piece and would really put the Blazers in championship contention (if Oden turns out to be the great player everyone says he is).

However, as a Bulls fan, I would not trade Deng to the Blazers because they don’t really have anything that the Bulls would want (other than the “big 3,” which you guys would never trade). The Blazers and Bulls, when it comes to trading, are in similar situations because they both need to trade the pieces they have for something big. I really don’t see a trade happening between these two teams because the Bulls have too many good, young players already, and that’s what the Blazers would offer in a trade. One of the Bulls’ biggest problems right now is that they have too many players that need minutes at the same position. There just aren’t enough minutes to go around, which makes it unlikely that they’ll look to pick up more pieces. The only way that the Blazers could acquire Deng in a trade is if the Bulls decided that they wanted RLEC, which I don’t think you guys want to trade for a player like Deng (because you’d probably want someone better in return, and because another contract would be added in the trade, like Nocioni, who has a very bad contract).

he has the work ethic that has become cliche when discussing quality, and a lifetime(as in the ladies channel) movie story. Im a little hesitent about his efforts at negotiations, but suspect that gorden was hot talkin and Dang just got caught in the flo. I think I read somewhear that they have the same agent. Dont know if thats really true thoe. I would trade a true shooting forward for a 2 shooting forward any day.

ps.. I know its Deng, and I dont care.

Deng per 36 minutes: 17.0 points, 6.7 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 1.0 steals, 0.5 blocks, 47.9% FG, 36.4% 3FG

Outlaw per 36 minutes: 18.0 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.0 steals, 1.0 blocks, 43.2%FG, 39.6% 3FG

Certainly stats don’t tell the whole story but KP says we need shooters with Oden and LMA so there is not enough difference to pay the extra freight. Deng reportedly turned down 5 years and $50M last year. Outlaw ($4M/yr) can get his own shot and until that is made redundant we need him more.