Summer League Game 1 Recap
Since this is night one and the main focus is on three players we'll focus on that. Jerryd Bayless 5-12 fg 18-23ft 4 reb, 0 asst, 28pts in 32 min
He’s the one guy with a marketable NBA skill right off the bat. He has the ability to take his man off the dribble and draw a foul. He’s not precisely Roy-level multi-directional but he can go either direction and he’s pretty darn quick. He’s strong enough to finish even with contact and he hits his free throws like he was playing Pop-a-Shot. This will absolutely hold him in good stead in the league. I imagine in the next few games the defense will have instructions not to make contact and instead to make him hit a shot. We’ll see more about his offense then. Right now the verdict on his jumper is mixed, but it’s hard to tell with just one game. He certainly looks like he’ll be able to get it off when he wants. We didn’t get to see much of Jerryd’s passing skills tonight. This was as much because of his teammates and the offense as anything. Somebody needed to take over this game and Jerryd decided he was that man. This is probably indicative of what we’ll see his rookie year. He’ll look to establish himself by scoring first unless the Blazers specifically tell him not to…which I don’t imagine they’d do. In any case the more Bayless settled into this game the better he looked and the more shots he took. Bayless looks like he’ll have no trouble running the break, either as a ball-handler or finisher. He has good vertical speed. Defense was more of a mixed bag. He absolutely knows where to put his body and is able to get himself to the right spot quickly. That’s a huge plus. He’s near the head of our point guard class in that dimension already. However you can tell he has a ways to go in terms of defensive court vision. He does a good job seeing his man but he’s not seeing plays yet. Also…and herein lies the rub…even when he got to the right spot defensively he wasn’t able to bother anyone’s jumper. Guys rained it down on him. This is a classic “tweener” symptom. There is some discussion as to Bayless’ actual height but it’s fair to say that he looks small for his height and he definitely defends like a small man. Any time spent at shooting guard in the foreseeable future will almost certainly be spent defending as a point.
Nicolas Batum 1-6 fg, 4 reb, 0 assts, 3 pts in 26 min
This game didn’t showcase Batum’s offensive skills much. The shots he did take (and he missed 5 of 6) were jumpers. He got them off quickly enough and got in the air, but open or covered, the shots didn’t fall. Other than those occasional early shots he pretty much disappeared in the offense. He stayed on the weak side most of the night and never called for the ball. On the few occasions he received it he gave it up again right away. This was not an aggressive effort from him.
However don’t throw in the towel on the guy quite yet. What you may not have picked up on TV was that Batum is almost certainly the farthest ahead of the “Little Three” defensively. Like Bayless he was able to move his body fairly well. He had his hands moving more than Bayless did. He was also able to watch more than just his man defensively, anticipating plays as well as the times and places to rotate. That’s a base upon which to build.
Petteri Koponen 7-13 fg, 4-6 3pt, 2 reb, 3 asst, 19 pts in 30 min
We got a mixed performance from Petteri tonight. He’s certainly farther along than he was at this time last year, which is a good sign. He’s FAR more active and comfortable in his own skin. He showed a couple of aggressive moves off of the dribble, a couple of nice dishes, and confidence in his shot. He missed open shots and hit more difficult ones but this is typical of both youth and Summer League. He’s not bankable, but he’s not bad.
Petteri’s passing skills were decent. His interior passing off of the drive was solid. His outside passing was not bad, but it wasn’t crisp. I don’t know if it was the company, the offense, or the point guard, but he got stymied quite a bit when a move wasn’t immediately evident. It’ll be interesting to see if he can take charge more in successive games. (However letting Bayless make hay tonight wasn’t a bad choice.)
Petteri doesn’t look as quick defensively as he does on offense. Nevertheless he managed to get around some screens and stay with his man. He wasn’t horrible by any means. Keep in mind that he’s not going against big-league competition here though. I’m not sure he could stay with a quick NBA point guard nor survive a really salty big-man pick.
As far as general impressions of the important members of this Summer League class, the thing that stood out tonight was that we aren’t replacing any outside shooting with this squad. The answer to James Jones’ departure doesn’t seem to be here (if once game can be trusted anyway). This may put a premium on the shooters we already have. Again…be careful of drawing conclusions from just one game.
We have another game tomorrow evening. Stay tuned!
--Dave
P.S. I have to run to do radio in a few minutes so I can’t get you the exact quotes (watch Quick and Freeman for that) but here is a summary of Nate’s review of our two main guys: --He was appreciative of Bayless’ ability to attack the basket, especially since he didn’t shy away from contact but created it. The willingness to give up one’s body is an asset. --Jerryd also let the game come to him tonight. He played appropriately, within the flow of the game. --They will probably want to see more of Jerryd at the point this week. --Petteri did well but he needs to show the ability to create more. --Both Bayless and Koponen appear to like the big shot. --Both are straight-line guys when they attack and may have to move more.
--Dave
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note to self
buy bayless jersey
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by Ben. on Jul 14, 2008 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What if he doesn't make the roster?
You’ll be stuck with a useless Bayless jersey until we draft another Bayless with the same number and everything :-(
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jul 14, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
worst case scenario i just take a picture of myself and submit it to this site: http://straightcashhomey.net/
"Honor Terry Porter." Email me with your TP stories and memories.
by Ben. on Jul 14, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't make the roster
You could mail it to him. It will probably fit.
by FrederickT1 on Jul 15, 2008 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff as always
and note to self
buy Bayless home, away, alternate, and retro jersey. Now.
How do I set my laser printer to stun?
by prezofdeath on Jul 14, 2008 7:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple of things:
For Bayless, you say, “the verdict on his jumper is mixed, but it’s hard to tell with just one game.
He certainly looks like he’ll be able to get it off when he wants.”
ChewHoop spun it a little differently in the liveblog today, saying,
“I love how aggressive he was, trying to get to the rim, finishing with both hands.
He’s athletic, skilled and doesn’t fall in love with his jumper [emphasis mine]
like a lot of combo guards these days tend to do.”
As in, although “he can get his jumper off when he wants”, it’s nice to see that “when he wants”
isn’t too freakishly often, especially after the trigger-happy antics the past few years
of players like JJ, Sergio, Darius, occasionally Blake, Juan Dixon, and Telfair.
Also, you note that “[t]he answer to James Jones’ departure doesn’t seem to be here”: Well, Rudy’s not there.
If Bayless and The Petter can even match the loss of both JJs (let alone improve on last year’s perimeter shooting),
that would certainly increase the pressure on Rudy to be able to hit from distance.
And, if he can do so, it will be a lot more valuable to us if the other new arrivals can’t offer that.
Love the “straight-line/have-to-move-more” comment from Nate.
I would imagine that’s a common trait for rookies, that the ability to pick a complex path to the basket
is a very hard ability to realize the need for, let alone acquire.
That’s probably one of those subtle touches that comes with being a veteran.
Unless you’re Brandon Roy.
HE had that vet-like ability down solid from game one of his rookie year.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on Jul 14, 2008 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BRoy had 4 years
at UW to learn on the job and get expert coaching on fundamentals.
by OrygunRod on Jul 14, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a couple of more things
Martel Webster is supposed to be the guy to replace James Jones. This is his chance to earn a home in Blazerville.
> If any of those big guy stiffs on the Summer team could catch and make a shot, both Bayless and and Kopi would have had a bunch more assists. Steve Blake would have looked really crappy with this squad too.
> Nobody complained that Tim Hardaway was too small to have game- and he wasn’t really a great classic point guard. So if Bayless becomes Hardaway is that a bad thing?
by ralphzillo on Jul 15, 2008 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Win
Washington was no doubt tired after getting into Vegas just 2 hrs before gametime, but they brought a talented group- with at least 4-5 people who will be on the big club roster.
PK and JB looked good. I’m not surprised that Batum looked like a project- that’s what he is, but nice to hear that Dave saw good things in his defense.
I think we saw what we wanted in game 1.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Dave
I was in the open thread so I missed some stuff. From that perspective, I noticed that no ones defense made me cuss and the offense wasn’t bad. For a summer league game and knowing this team has only been together a week, I though it was a pretty crisp game, for a game with a ton of turnovers and hardly any assists.
"We're just one big family. And it's our godforsaken right to be loved loved loved loved loved." - Jason Mraz
by tominhawaii on Jul 14, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We should be careful of judgments after one game? Dave you seem more nit picky than most but I guess that’s your job. I’m very happy with the play of Bayless and Koponen. I did feel Bayless choked at the end from the free throw line, that’s my only know on him, yet he got there 23 times. Bayless was playing good defense, playing up on the guard with quick feet. Then he got called for a weak touch foul and he started playing off the guys more.
Bayless has been better than expected. He wasn’t going to get 10 assists with all the scrubs he has to pass to. I mean come on, who does he have? Steven Hill? Hahahaha
by BRoyInThe4th on Jul 14, 2008 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually Bayless and Koponen each have a pretty good guy to pass to.
by pualo on Jul 14, 2008 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who dat be?
"We're just one big family. And it's our godforsaken right to be loved loved loved loved loved." - Jason Mraz
by tominhawaii on Jul 14, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and pualo?
"We're just one big family. And it's our godforsaken right to be loved loved loved loved loved." - Jason Mraz
by tominhawaii on Jul 14, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they have enough beef
to lob one from Vegas to Portland. Otherwise, I would definitely dunk it.
by pualo on Jul 14, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
check out TrueHoop...
... if you want to see the line “Bayless is the truth.”
Go there and scroll down a bit.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
who will someday
induce the same warm, cuddly feelings in the hearts of the Blazer faithful that his esteemed predecessor once did.
by knickfan on Jul 14, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As of right now
Everything is Bayless’ fault.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jul 14, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know I am OK with the fact that
Bayless did not have an A because he did not have ONE jump-pass in the entire game.
I tend to agree with you that JB is like JJ on steroids.
by SpyderRyder on Jul 15, 2008 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE'LL BE BOCK!
On 9/18 that fatty is a greatly missed element around here. He is sort of the opposite of sawdust mixing with nitroglycerin to create dynamite. He is a catalyst for brilliance and incandescent rage on the parts of certain posters. Regardless he will be back when he said he would be back. What’s more it will be a fine day when he returns.
FREAKING BIIIIZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOK IT YA’LL!!!!
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Jul 14, 2008 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO whoops
wrong thread :)
He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants
by Idog1976 on Jul 14, 2008 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
alcohol and blogging
can be a treacherous combination, dude.
by knickfan on Jul 14, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wowzers
I was like dang, how many Firefox tabs do I have on the Fatty post?! I thought this was the game recap!
How do I set my laser printer to stun?
by prezofdeath on Jul 14, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Tabs
Its the internet version of slice bread.
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on Jul 14, 2008 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm, what?
They’re rounded, rectangular-ish things that stick up from pages. You can use them to quickly switch back and forth. Google is your friend (except when it’s being evil or down). They’re all the rage these days, I’m surprised that you haven’t heard of them.
by royroty on Jul 15, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Dallas’ JV team is crushing Minny (with several rotation players- Love, Brewer, Chris Richard).
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how does Love look?
Is he still fat?
by knickfan on Jul 14, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like the Terminator
only white
How do I set my laser printer to stun?
by prezofdeath on Jul 14, 2008 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, the good news is
that he can make a competitive run for Governor of California when his playing days are over.
by knickfan on Jul 14, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't make me vomit
If the dude is another heartless greedy con man for corporatocracy, then I’d rather he stuck with hoops. No political career please.
Nature bats last.
by fisheyes on Jul 14, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. What he said.
Why can’t all politicians be like Nancy Pelosi?
by timg56 on Jul 15, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
23 free throws
by Bayless…that’s insane at any level
by BrewDude on Jul 14, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see the game
but Petteri looks like he had a pretty good game. 7-13 fg, 4-6 3pt, 2 reb, 3 asst, 19 pts is a nice line. Just curious, tho: Did his teammates fail to convert any scoring chances that might have resulted in a few more assists? Or was 3 dimes pretty much a fair measure of his effectiveness in distributing the rock?
by knickfan on Jul 14, 2008 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
shoulda had a few more
not double digits or anything, but there wasn’t a lot of offensive talent on the court outside of JB and PK.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that would be an understatement
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jul 14, 2008 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a single one of the Blazer bigs showed much NBA readiness...
but I’m sure there are a lot of nerves that played into everyone’s game, as evidenced by the exorbitant level of turnovers. However, our summer league front court is definitely lacking a little athleticism.
by PtownJake on Jul 14, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.....
I have this strange feeling that none of the big guys are going to be on the Blazers roster come fall.
See I have a guy I know in the Blazers FO and he texted me a while ago, plus I’m psychic so I can tell the future that none of the big guys are goung to make the final roster.
HA
by SpyderRyder on Jul 15, 2008 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Koponen
Reminds me of a young Danny Ainge
by two4larue on Jul 15, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noooooooooooo! I can't stand that guy.
I watched the game between the 92 Blazers and Celtics the other night on Comcast. I hated watching Danny Ainge play so well even if he was a Blazer at the time. Ugh. What a conundrum.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
by annthefan on Jul 15, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monty for Vegas Coach of the Year
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 8:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so did bayless have the best performance of summer league to this point?
i think yes
"Honor Terry Porter." Email me with your TP stories and memories.
by Ben. on Jul 14, 2008 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah and Eric Gordon shredded the twine one night too
before he pulled his hammy or whatever.
Winning is everything.
by MT Suit on Jul 14, 2008 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Assist Issues
Ok, neither PG put up big assist numbers, but I tried to keep track, and I thought there were about 6 assists for Koponen and 4 for Bayless that did not count only because scrub players did not finish or were fouled hard. I saw good and bad in both players, mostly good:
Bayless: Definitely a take charge guy, 23 FTs were a sign of his aggressiveness going to the hoop. Usually quick on defense, occasionally out of position. Passed well when opportunity presented itself, but was willing to take game over when needed. I saw on ESPN site a commenter compare him to KJ, the 90’s Phoenix PG. A bit early for that, but there were similarities. As long as he can adapt to not being the #1 option when he plays with Roy Aldridge and Oden, he appears to be an asset .
Koponen: Strong first and 4th quarters, Ilove his size as a PG, and seemed to me that he played very good defense against Dee Brown. Is very fast for a big guard and passes well. Shot is spotty, and seemed to lose confidence when it went south, but I hope we bring him over. To me he is a huge upgrade from Sergio, and a couple of years int he NBA will show what he can do.
Batum: Settled for Jump shots a lot, and in rare spots showed enormous potential. I personally think he may need a year or two more in Europe or the D league to contribute at NBA level.
Rest of the Team: Did see ocasional highlights and a few of these guys might develop into role players, but with Portlands depth, no spot for them here in my opinion
by yubaduck on Jul 14, 2008 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So Koponen is more NBA-ready than Batum?
Ee-gads, man, let’s leave Batum in France and give Kope a roster slot with the Blazers!
And while we’re at it can we just cut Sergio and put him out of his misery?
I suppose Batum is more valuable position-wise and Nate might want to give the roster slot to him just ‘cause he plays SF, but still, you can’t overlook Koponen’s NBA chops if they’re really real. Maybe the answer is to play Rudy and Roy some at SF if need be, and have Bayless play mostly SG. That’ll clear some room for Kope. Get rid of Sergio too and that’ll clear plenty of room.
Nature bats last.
by fisheyes on Jul 14, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved Kevin Johnson and he is exactly what I want Bayless to become
Absolutely love that comparison. I’ve made it myself, but I’m not sure if I wrote it here earlier or it was just in my head.
by tweener on Jul 14, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is definitely who he resembles...
................................... small and quick and aggressive.
Petko is a BIG PG.
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"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see how Kopo's shot is spotty.
He did hit 7-13 or 53.8% with 4-6 being 3pters (Ok really 3-5 as that bank did NOT count)
But I do agree that his D was very good, Brown went 1-2 with 3ast and 5tos, much of that due to PetKos D. I thought that he was active on his man and had great court awareness of where the ball was at all times. Its just he was so attentive when ever his man passed off and was cutting away of looking back and forth at his man, at the ball, anticipating if the guy was going to cut and so on.
Add to that his stellar shooting really, he was the only Blazer to make a 3pt att., and his active D and I came away as impressed as I can from a SL game.
by SpyderRyder on Jul 15, 2008 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sergio is the second more experienced PG we have. I won´t surrender my little hopes until i see what happens next season.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jul 15, 2008 3:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oy vey!
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
timbo has fallen hard for Petko
do I need to do this again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Belinelli
amlmart1 is right to take a wait and see approach. Bayless will likely take the Jarrett Jack role which leaves Sergio’s role from last year open for competition between Sergio and Petko.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 15, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KJ similar to Bayless?
I don’t see it.
First let’s find out if Bayless can get an assist in the NBA.
Bayless has a great first step but he is in no way comparable to KJ in terms of quickness.
KJ and Timmy Hardaway have to be the quickest, fastest guards I have ever seen.
Honestly, Bayless reminds me more of Brandon Roy than anyone.
Just shorter, quicker, a touch more athletic, and a bit more selfish (though not in a bad way).
"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"
by broggerboy19 on Jul 15, 2008 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but will I be able to LIKE Bayless?
Everybody wants to talk about the way RydBay drove to the hoop tonight. He made most of his points from the line.
But - seeing him for the first time as a player on “my” team - I kept wondering of this is a guy I can root for? I’m thinking of his facial expressions here. The guy, as he headed for the line, looked anything but lovable, not even likable. He looked as if he was saying, “I’m an adult and you make me play in the kiddies’ league? I’m better than these guys, and shouldn’t have to prove my self against these losers.” Well, that’s what his facial expression communicated to me.
Now, as a fan hoping that your team can win, of course you want the adult on your team blowing past the kiddies on the other team. You want your team to win. But do we want to root for our Rick Fox, our Kobe Bryant, or do we want a team of Clyde Drexlers and Brandon Roys?
Hey, it’s one game, and RydBay may be a sweetheart who will warm the cockles of my little black heart when I get to know who he is. But right now, his game face is all Rick Fox, and that will be hard to root for.
by monkeysuncle on Jul 14, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rick Fox?? Now that's really out of left field!
RydBay (dig the novel nick) might be insufferable in certain respects but that does not make him into Rick Fox. I would dispute the characterization until we know more. You don’t really understand a person until you know the background, the meaning, the motivation and reasoning and heart behind his attitude and his game. We don’t know any of that stuff about RydBay. First impressions are important in some respects, and it’s good to go with your gut, but second and third and fourth impressions provide a lot more context and detail. Context and detail are needed to draw reasoned conclusions. The reasoned conclusion about RydBay may turn out to be just that he’s a heckuva competitor. We really don’t know what his facial expressions meant tonight.
Nature bats last.
by fisheyes on Jul 14, 2008 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!
by LaMarvelous on Jul 14, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're reading too much in to it.
Were you offended when he didn’t seem overjoyed upon hearing that he was traded? A lot of people are still hung up on that, it seems. He looked like any other kid playing basketball to me.
by fart on Jul 14, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great quote
"I’m an adult and you make me play in the kiddies’ league? I’m better than these guys, and shouldn’t have to prove my self against these losers."
I want him saying that when he’s playing the L@kers.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 14, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does Tony Parker...
Everybody wants to talk about the way [Rex] drove to the hoop tonight. He made most of his points from the line.
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can gauge a person's personality and thought process
from facial expressions seen over a tv set, then why are you wasting time here. There are companies (and governments) that would pay millions for someone with that ability.
Sort of OT here – Why do people feel they have to come up with some “cool” new handle for a person? Jerryd Bayless was good enough for his mom and dad, his college coach, even the state (I’m pretty sure his driver’s license doesn’t say JBay or some other ridiculous moniker.) Cool is remembering a person’s name. Coming up with some shorthand nickname is a) lazy and b) following the herd.
I don’t mean to offend anyone here. It’s just one of my personal beefs – i.e. my problem, not yours.
by timg56 on Jul 15, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-Bay sounds like
Where someone would go buy Pokki and soiled panties of Japanese high school girls. Dirty manga and Hello Kitty and other crap like that. So, I don’t like J-Bay that much because of Pearl Harbour.
I think it’s endearing that we always try to find a good nickname for those players we wanna love, but it should come naturally and not be forced. I am not a huge fan of the “first letter and first syllable of the last name” cookie cutter nickname generator, and we can do better than “J-Bay, your one stop shop for violent anime porn”.
Even tough I pretty much agree you with, TimG56, you have greatly offended me.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jul 15, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-Bay reminds me of...
by two4larue on Jul 15, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We call my wife Pocki
I know it is spelled wrong. Anyhow, she’s called that because she’s a sweet Asian treat.
"France is a place where the money falls apart in your hands but you can't tear the toilet paper" - Billy Wilder
by tominhawaii on Jul 16, 2008 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me, too, two
Meaning
1. I possess that knack also.
2. I am also annoyed with you.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 16, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and timbo
must be something about the name.
Weren’t you the guy who was trying to marry your daughter off to me to get rid of her school debt?
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 16, 2008 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall the offer being directed specifically to you.
However, I’m willing to accept a check in the amount of $10,000 (non-refundable of course) as a sign of your good intentions.
by timg56 on Jul 17, 2008 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't think of a player i like less
than Rick Fox, but I didn’t get that vibe from him at all
by yubaduck on Jul 14, 2008 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JLess fills the JJack role and more!
JLess will be more efficient with the ball, than JJack was. I worry a little about his selfishness with the ball, but to be fair besides Koppenafeelen there was not very many good options to pass to. I don’t know that we will have a real chance to see his abilities as a passing pg until preseason. I think it is safe to say he’s got a chance to be a Monte Ellis type scorer with better D and undetermined passing abilities. He can come in and score in bunches especially in those stale stretches or on a back to back. He makes a great match with Roy playing the point and then covering the 2 on D. I think Rudy will be finishing the games, but Jless will be that offensive upstart when needed.
I was pleased with Koppenafeelen, especially compared to last year. His 2 big struggles will be covering shorter quicker guards, and his handles need to improve. He has a Sergio esque shot with a low arch that will cause some consistency issues from the 3 point line. He can get away with it a little due to his height especially against Dee Brown, but he needs to increase the height of his rainbow.
There’s no doubt if we’ve learned anything since the official announcement of the JLess trade it is that he is a big time prick! But I honestly think it doesn’t hurt to have that attitude so long as it is directed towards winning at all costs and not padding his stat line. That’s where the man makes me a little nervous. A rookie isn’t going to come in and spoil our bunch of apples, he’ll just make them have a little more of a bite. A little bit like Pryz with a strong splash of jerk, but from the backcourt.
All in all I like what KP has served up, but I think the best thing is yet to come ala Oden and some Rudy in the Olympics! You Betcha!
by Titlein2011 on Jul 14, 2008 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad to see that
p….! word in a comment
by Caveowl on Jul 14, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nate even said it:
They TOLD Bayless to shoot as much as he could tonight. There was nothing selfish in his aggression. NATE FRIGGIN’ MCMILLAN said it on the air!!! And he did give it up at times—if those were the “real” Blazers he would have had at least a handful of assists (he probably wouldn’t have been told to shoot first, too) but nobody could make a darn shot.
by fart on Jul 14, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are being a bit harsh...
calling JB a prick and a jerk based on what I don’t know is IMHO going way too far.
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!
by LaMarvelous on Jul 14, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dude's 19
Give him a break. Teenagers aren’t supposed to be polished.
by Clevelander among roses on Jul 14, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is all messed up.
Apparently there is a huge information gap for some. Bayless was mad when first interviewed after the draft not for being traded to Portland but because he fell all the way to 11th in the first round. He has played against most of the guys taken in front of him and felt obviously very strongly he was the better player.
by OrygunRod on Jul 14, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my take on the interview also.
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
by annthefan on Jul 14, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Koponen the future PG
Blazers put pressure on Koponen publicly before Las Vegas. A good PG should thrive under pressure. That is exactly what Koponen did (and what he has been doing in Finland, if I understand it right: winning two championships already as a starting PG. Finland is not the major league in Europe, but anyway he has played against professional NCAA tested PGs when being a 18 old kid himself). He did not turn the ball over. He had a great overall game, and several clutch shots. In addition to his stats, he also limited D.Brown to two points and 5 turnovers. He was also quicker than most people expected. A real class act from a young prospect.
If Portland does not sign him, he will sign a multiyear contract in Europe and Portland may never see him again. This is the case, as if he tries to sign a one-year contract, no serious Euroleague team wants to develop him and give him valuable minutes, if they know that there is another player that can use those minutes and stay with the team longer. So if Koponen won’t play in Portland and wants to play some serious minutes in Euroleague (the second best league in the world), his only chance is to sign a multiyear contract.
If you measure up Koponen’s potential against the other PGs
1. PK vs Sergio – PG is taller, bigger, plays better D, shoots much better, and is still younger, that is more potential. There is no area in which Koponen loses in this comparison, except experience.
2. PK vs Blake – Blake is an excellent player for the Blazers team. Home town boy. Loyal. No turnovers. Can shoot. No ego. He is just the type of guy every team needs. However, he may not be the starting PG of a championship team. PK has shown some flashes of potential and greatness that can take him further than Blake is or will be. Blake would be an excellent mentor for PK.
3. PK vs Bayless. I feel that Bayless has a need to market himself as a PG as he knows that there is no way he will replace Roy, or even Rudy: So to market himself as a PG is his change to get his minutes up. However, everyone else seems to agree that Bayless is first and foremost a SG, or a combo guard. He complements Roy well and will definitely be a part of Blazers future. However, he is not and will not be a pure PG. If Blazers want to have one true PG in their roster in the future, then Koponen is the guy. Koponen is also much taller than Bayless, giving more options in the defensive end.
by Couch Coach on Jul 14, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!
by LaMarvelous on Jul 14, 2008 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kop looked good
but less we draw conclusions from 1 summer league game, I refer you to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Belinelli
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
This was just one game.
However, the points above are not base on this game only.
Koponen faced huge pressure in Nike Hoop Summit last year, as it was his only opportunity show his skills in the US before the draft. He kept hiw own against Rose, Mayo & co, and showed some real potential. The team lost badly, but that was because they did not have anybody else except Koponen and Batum. In addition to their point guards USA had also Beasley, Love, and a few other lottery picks.
Then he attended about 20 workouts before draft and proved again that he can work out evenly against the top prospects.
In Finland, which is still a professional league with all the americans ex NCAA Div I starters, he was voted as MVP, being only 19 years old kid.
He has also played well in Finland’s national team, again exceeding expectations.
He has a great work ethic, he is marketable, speaks good English already now, eventhough he has yet to live in an English speaking country.
For sure, there have been and will be many potential prospects who never make it. However, if I would be KP or Nate, I would put my bet on this kid, as so many signs are towards him making it.
PS. I hope that there is not some differing views on this between KP and Nate, as some of Nates comments have been quite reserved, whereas KP has been praising Koponen in several occasions.
by Couch Coach on Jul 14, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
I was pleasantly surprised by PetKo’s composure. It may not have been recorded, but he did have at least two turnovers: one in the first half as he was bringing the ball up the court with a series of behind-the-back dribbles, and another on a little penetration at the top of the key and an attempt to dish to someone cutting along the baseline. Nonetheless, I think your point’s a fair one. With better talent around him, Koppenen should have had about a 3-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio.
It also seem to me that on defense he had active hands and pretty long arms that seemed to bother Brown. On a number of occassions Brown had trouble completing passes and at least once threw a pass away trying to get around PetKo’s outstretched arms.
Also, I do wish Dave would explain why he didn’t see more promise in Koppenen’s lonmg-range shooting. Granted, one of his made 3-pointers was a lucky bank, but even if you subtract that, he shot 3 for 5, i.e., 60 percent! And he his misses looked a lot better to me than Batum’s.
by Trutherlizer on Jul 14, 2008 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PetKo!
Love the name … is that you, or has it been around for a while?
I was calling him Kopo
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by Y5k on Jul 15, 2008 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For you non-Americans on the board here...
“Petco” is a chain of pet stores, where you can buy dog food, cat toys, fish, hamsters, ferrets, etc.
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"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
........................... That's why a few of the nervous nellie church ladies think "Petko" is mean...
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...................................................... but it is "where the pets go," after all!
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they went in the their cages...
... or on my lawn, if let out.
by timg56 on Jul 15, 2008 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes
it is the situation rather than the player. Belinelli played for Nellie and much likeSloan, he does not like using rookies that much, it may not be any different here as PetKo will be buried at best, but I feel that he may not be better than Sergio, but a better fit with his 3pt and D skills.
I have said before that I feel that Blake will retire a Blazer as I think that is how much KP and Nate value him, but if PetKo is willing to sit the bench for 3-4 years he may have a chance to surpass Blake, as I feel that he has more talent and if he can learn the tricks from Blake both he and the team will be better for it.
Of course when we get Deron Williams, the whole point will be moot.
by SpyderRyder on Jul 15, 2008 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think PetKo
might be some really atractive trade bait. I read that the Suns have been lusting after him for a while now and that attraction should only be growing now that his skills are developing. We are turning into a point guard farm.
Four PGs on any team is too much. It’s even worse with the Blazers because we have like six guys who can play the one spot. I would rather have backup bigs because they tend to get injured more.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on Jul 15, 2008 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Petko, lose Clanko.
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
Koponen - PG of the future. Book it.
by Blazerholic on Jul 15, 2008 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great point guards also can dribble with both hands
Petterri can not do that yet
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jul 15, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification on the jerk.
Sorry if I offended on the “p” word, I didn’t realize that would be offensive, I thought a different “p” word would be the issue.
In regards to my exaggerated comments, they were for the sake of making a point and humor, in describing JLess’ attitude/demeanor on the court. Bayless has a huge chip on his shoulder especially after the draft, but it’s strictly on the court. He’s not going to show up on any police blotter in fact he’s probably a decent enough guy. He’s not comfortable with the press, and he tries to mask it which makes the whole jerk vibe even stronger. But the reality is the guy is out to prove something, and he can say whatever niceties he’s been told to say about the 10 teams who didn’t pick him, but when it’s game time against them he’s going to be driving to the hole with a vengeance. I think he’ll carry over a similar attitude in general he seems to have a bit of Tupac in him “Me against the world”. At some points that will be phenomenal and other times it could be a detriment. I think the chances are strong that it can be channelled well by Nate, Monte, Roy, Marty, LA, and Blake. So I think the Jerk will be just what we needed considering our teams make up!
by Titlein2011 on Jul 14, 2008 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot to use the sarcasm font
actually there isn’t any such thing as a sarcasm font, so Bedgers simply place the phrase “Sarcasm Font” somewhere on their post.
LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!
by LaMarvelous on Jul 14, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Koponen
I like this kid so far. I don’t care what anybody says, his confidence was rockin’ in the 4th with his 3 ball, and he’s got a pretty teardrop floater down the lane. Some people are hesitant to say too much with this being the first game and all, but I saw some heart out there to get us our lead back.
Oh and J Bay,
You’re money baby and you don’t even know it! .....wait….you do know it.
by blazerbeliever on Jul 14, 2008 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts on Bayless and Petko
Bayless: He looked like he will have no problem getting into the middle of defenses. Nick Young and Dee Brown are not stars by any means but both are nba athletes and Bayless had no problem getting by them. I think this is really the key thing we could have hoped for with this team. If he can get into the middle of the defense with real shooters and bigs around him the assists will come in bunches. You can’t really get much feel for his outside shot from this game but I definitely noticed a hitch that slows his release. I assume this is what they are working on getting rid of this summer. On defense he looked fine to me. Nothing outstanding but he worked to stay in front of his man and he wasn’t getting torched. Finally, he is a fantastic athlete. He showed great straight line speed and fantastic leaping. When he was in traffic he was still able to elevate. He even had a great block.
Petko: Petteri looked like he was nervous to start the game. In fact, other than Bayless the whole team looked like they were rushing everything until well into the second half. I was suprised with how quick he was. He had no trouble keeping Dee Brown in front of him. I only recall one play where Brown was able to get past him and into the lane. Once he settled down he got the offense going much smoother. He was able to get into the lane and dish to the bigs on multiple occasions and he had a couple of nice looking floaters. My big concern with Petteri is his ball handling. I am not sure if it was him being overcautious or if he is not confident but whenever he brought the ball up he had to back down he man. Even doing this he still got picked once and had a couple of other bobbles. Overall I was impressed with the improvements. He was certainly the second best player on the team and the confidence he showed at the end was great.
Brett Pill - Lord of the double.
by malarky on Jul 14, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw it like you did as far as The Kop goes...
It will be interesting to see if teams start pressing him to test his handle. I am curious to see how he plays the next few games as far as his ball handling goes. The back down your opponent 50 feet from the basket thing has to be used far less often IMO. Otherwise he looked better than I expected, he might be a keeper…
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jul 15, 2008 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic and Mark Jackson
Made a career out of backing down smaller point guards. As long as PK keeps his head on a swivel and delivers passes on time, there shoud be no problem
by two4larue on Jul 15, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if a player is playing you tight,
are you going to dribble out in front of you? I feel that is why he was backing down more than some like, his man was playing him tight and he was slowing it down to guage the halfcourt D and run a play.
I would imagine as he gets more confidence he will make a move and get into the lane to attack more often, I loved how he could split the double teams on the high P&R to get into the middle of the lane for a teardrop, which will henceforth be known as the “Finnish teardrop”.
by SpyderRyder on Jul 15, 2008 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replay
For those who missed it; Here is a link to the archive of the game. The live feed starts about 30 min into the replay so you have to jump forward. http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/summer_league/full/summer08_waspor_15.asx
Brett Pill - Lord of the double.
by malarky on Jul 14, 2008 10:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sacramento should be interesting tomorrow
They have 3 NBA level big men in Hawes, Sheldon Williams and first round pick Jason Thompson. Petko and Rex should be able to do well against their guards (Quincy Douby is the only notable name), but Chris Ellis and co. will have their hands full.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jul 14, 2008 11:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I cant wait to see Thompson....
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 15, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may have to take the hole jerk thing back considering his hoopsworld interview
I was extremely impressed with the 180 he pulled on his hoopsworld interview. He seemed more comfortable in his game element. He was very good with his responses. Maybe I jumped the gun just a little. Check it out at
by Titlein2011 on Jul 14, 2008 11:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bayless can draw fouls in D League
Oden can get whistled for fouls in D League.
Big deal, on both counts.
Jerryd is going to be a very good player for us, I’ve been very high on him all along, but the fact that he can draw fouls in D League doesn’t prove a lot.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 14, 2008 11:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops
Sorry about that, stupidity reigns.
I think the point still applies.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jul 15, 2008 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's better to look GOOD in the summer league than it is to look BAD in the summer league, eh?
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did u see
bayless swat of dee brown with 8:21 left in the 4th? SICK
Also, comparing Bayless to Rick Fox is asinine. First of all, Bayless has way more talent already than Fox ever did. Not that shooting 3’s from the corner (closest 3 spot to the basket), flopping, and riding coattails aren’t talents. I don’t see Bayless playing a meaningless role in our future successes that are almost sure to come. I see his attitude as more of a Mike Bibby than a Rick Fox. Bibby always had a salty face on, but in Sac when the playoffs came ‘round he was the man. Our two best players last year, Broy and the Marcus are great players but neither exudes a killer disposition. At some point we gotta show some heart, passion, fire, whatever it is that all NBA champions not from San Antonio exemplify. Roy and Aldridge will still be the leaders of this team next year, but Bayless and Oden are going to do a lot of the dirty work, so I suggest you start loving him now instead of later so you don’t have to hear from everyone saying, “I told you so.” I still can’t believe a Blazer fan compared a rookie who scores 28 points in his debut performance to a L*aker Rick Fox simply because he looks intense and confident on the floor. You haters can move to Seattle you don’t deserve a team.
I got your back BayBay!
"You can't buy your woman a watch because she got a clock on the stove."-Sir Charles Barkley
by shwa on Jul 15, 2008 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
comparing Bayless to Rick Fox is asinine.
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08
by timbo on Jul 15, 2008 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
-.5
I like the comparison if he would have phrased it different. Bayless is nothing like Rick Fox, but I could see Bayless turning into the guy, that fans from other teams hate the most on our team.
"We're just one big family. And it's our godforsaken right to be loved loved loved loved loved." - Jason Mraz
by tominhawaii on Jul 15, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You forget about Rudy?
I’ve already decided everyone is gonna hate Rudy (everyone who isn’t a Blazer fan) and I’m not changing my mind, dammit.
He’s a Spaniard, who everyone still hates ever since they sunk the Titanic to kick off the Spanish Civil War with America.
He’s a Euro, which means he’s a commie.
He’s white, and who doesn’t hate white people?
He’s a FLOPPER, which we know is an endearing trait when it’s someone else’s team.
Lastly, he’s HANDSOME, confusing many male NBA fans who know there is something about Rudy they want to be but they know, even if they can’t articulate it, that they’ll never be what Rudy is and he stirs something deep inside them that confuses them further, leading to RAGE.
Not to be misconstrued, because I love Rudy and think he’s awesome, but I can’t imagine a world where he isn’t Manu+1 in the hated-cause-he’s-so-good-and-I-want-to-kiss-him category.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jul 15, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Manu is a superstar who all my friends (Blazer fans) hate, but I still want to kiss him (not really) ‘cause he is just so good all around.
I also think Rudy will be awesome.
Lastly, I gotta throw this correction out there even if you were just making silly hyperbole: it was the Maine not the Titanic & its the Spanish American War: there was nothing civil about it…
Totally agree with your post though – I think Bayless has more of a chance of getting fanboys from other cities even though he torches their teams.
by staylost on Jul 15, 2008 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Petteri's assists
I wouldn’t worry too much about Petteri’s assist total. It is important to remember that the players are learning a new offense, which effects not only his performance, but where his teammates would be in sets. Point guards generally don’t look that great in summer league due to these factors. His turnovers should be kept in perspective given how disproportionately small to those of the rest of the team, particularly given how much he had the ball in his hands. One of the things that I thought was most impressive about his performance was how he deferred to his teammates throughout the game, and then was still able to impose his will on the game at the end. A lot of the time players struggle to turn their offense on and off like that. However, I do agree that it was troubling that instead of using his left more he would turn his back. I am sure that is something that is fixable though. His influence on the game was evident though as things looked much better when he was running the point.
by TFan on Jul 15, 2008 12:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bayless
Summer Leaque is indeed summer league. The Blazers had no interior game to speak of, so the scoring came from the guards. The exact opposite of what will happen in the regular season. One thing to point out, however, is that Bayless posted the best numbers of any of the guards, to include Gordon, Augustin and Mayo, taken in front of him. Gordon was close at 22 points – but he only shot 29% from the field. Mayo only picked up 15 points and had 8 fouls, and Augustin – like Bayless, didn’t really have anyone to pass to inside, so tried to take the scoring on his own shoulders, and being small, didn’t have much of a game. Koponen, ironically, actually posted a better line overall than Mayo, Gordon or Augustin. The good news is that we have a roster spot open for both Batum and Koponen, regardless of what we do with Sergio. Like most, I think the Finn is an upgrade to Sergio, so I can’t see Sergio going anywhere but somewhere else in the near future. In Bayless, I think the Blazers got what they wanted. Sure, he’s 19 and a rookie, but he showed the things you can’t teach, and being a hard worker and intelligent, can be taught the things he still needs to work on. A week of practice with a temporary squad is not, after all, going to showcase a kid’s PG skills, just as Augustin, Mayo and Gordon have already demonstrated. After all, the offense run on this squad won’t be remotely the same offense run with Oden, Aldridge, Roy and the rest of our crew. Bayless has intangibles. He’s fearless, competitive, extremely athletic, and has demonstrated in college that he has a good shot. Right now he’s not fully in rhythym, but those shots will fall. He shot 41% of his 3’s in college, so I haven’t given up on that part of his game based solely on one game. That’s way premature.
by Eben Calder on Jul 15, 2008 5:04 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Great post, Dave
Very good summery.
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jul 15, 2008 6:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah it was a real summery summary
lots of summer clothes
Winning is everything.
by MT Suit on Jul 15, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hot in Vegas
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jul 15, 2008 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although cooler yesterday
than it has been recently.
by Storyteller on Jul 15, 2008 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The teenager sitting next to me
commented that Paul Allen needed a longer pair of shorts…..
by Storyteller on Jul 15, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless is a Baller
Bayless is a Baller
Pure and Simple. That could be his new nick name. Pure and simply balling. The kid just wants to win, and more importantly, make you loose. You can tell just by the way he holds himself before the game, chatting it up with Paul Allen, then calmly fist pumping after that first Blazer basket – the tear drop in the lane! So Pretty! The fact he ran at the basket on his next possession, got fouled and finished the play with a bouncing ball that finally fell through the hoop as if to say to us Blazermaniacs, don’t worry, it will all work out. I loved his great FT percentage for his FIRST NBA GAME. He is NBA ready right now, that’s for sure. And he has 10 teams that passed on him in the draft to beat up on as a personal vendetta for many years to come. Face it “Rest of the League” Your seeing the beginnings of the next Dynasty grow up right in front of your eyes. I see Bayless going for 30+ points on a few occasions this year, simply due to the fact he will wear down opposing defense’s and make them foul his every entry into the lane. I think he is going to play good enough defense his first year to get some serious minutes; it looks like Greg and Rudy are going to have to keep track of Jerryd’s R.O.Y. year progress as well!!! oh we are so DEEP! Granted this is just ONE summer league game, but I think it shows more then that as far as his desire to take the scoring load on his shoulders at the end of games. It shows me that he is winner. At one point in the game we were down by 5 or 6 points, but we didn’t panic, we had some sloppy turnovers (alot of them, but I forget the bad, I remember the good), and then something amazing happened….....
It was the Finn! For three! And then Again! AND THEN AGAIN! P.K. was amazing tonight to the tune of 19 points, everything from his first Bank-In three to that fantastic Triple Tirade! I think he will make the squad this year, a 6-4 lighting quick point has a spot on my team any day. But I need to see more.
Batum kind of let me down, well, he got injured (bruised rib?), he couldn’t help it, but seriously, don’t pull a G.O. on me and take a game off from summer league! I hope he’s back our there tonight. I am passing on a hot date in favor of staying home and watching this game, Sac town is going down!
All in all, I am so glad I DVD’d that game, now, when I go home, I can watch it before I watch the game tonight, what time does it start? I need to set my DVD recorder. Then go outside and play a little basketball myself, Oh, I just pulled a Bayless on you, crossed you over and laid it up while getting fouled! And what And One
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Blazermaniac Andy
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by BlazermaniacAndy on Jul 15, 2008 9:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Andy
Its okay, I got a little breathless when I first saw Batum. He clearly has, um, some work to do. I do believe he will play tonight. I am not giving up a hot date (they are few and far between) to watch this but I am gonna forgo cooking a decent meal to watch LOL
Bayless is on display again tonight as we need confirmation that this is not a fluke. I Love his fire. He is turning into such a lil G. He was soo agressive and Lord in wherever knows that we need that agression. And unlike Jack, he can finish when he gets in the lane woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Sophia
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 15, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To all my Batum Haters (aka realists)
Well, I returned home last night just in time for the end of the 2nd qt and I obviously watched the remainer of the game. Batum went down midway through the 3rd qt. w a bruised rib and was gone so I waited til 10 to watch the first half again so my frame of reference isn’t soo small.
Batum is by far the best defender of the “big 3” . I noticed his body placement and how he moves his feet and arms. It was definitly better than the other crap on the floor. I, unlike, everyone else here, dont really care about his offense, as it’s already been emphatically stated that he is going to be a defensive specialist. It looks like maybe he was given the instruction to shoot the three. This is just speculation however, as I remember reading something about him spreading the floor on offense and shootin the threeball.
Obviously, his debut was dismal compared to Rexless and Koper, but it wasn’t soo bad that we should consider giving up his spot. Hasn’t he already signed on anyway? I think the last spot on the roster is Kopper’s to lose. If he plays the way he did he’ll be #15 for sure.
-Sophia
PS Cant post anything about Batum w/o saying he looks sooooooooo good playing.. even if some thinks he is too skinny.
:)
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
by BlazerFan1 on Jul 15, 2008 9:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Batum was everywhere on D
i don’t know if thats a good thing or not. and it was good to see him trying to crash the offensive boards. I needs to see him play one more game before i condemn him to the d league
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jul 15, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things I noticed
from my seat in the 4th row behind the Blazer bench:
1) Monty Williams was teaching the entire game. Great to see him working with the younger players, encouraging them when they do something right and rebuking them when they need it.
2) Batum looked nervous. Seemed to be interviewing rather than playing. His outside shot on those misses looked fine from the perspective of form, they just didn’t fall.
3) Bayless handled the ball really well in fast-break situations. That was one thing in particular I wanted to see. If he plays with Roy, then Brandon will run the offense in the half-court and he can play off the ball.
4) Koponen has improved his ball-handling over last year. Still shooting the ball just as well if not better.
5) Ellis, Davis, Pinnock and Maric could get training camp invites, but I don’t see any one of them making the squad.
6) Paul Allen, Kevin Pritchard and Tom Penn had an ‘executive meeting’ for about 2-3 minutes during halftime. I didn’t see where McMillan was sitting. This is the first time I’ve seen Paul Allen at a Summer League game – has he ever made the trip before?
7) Anyone else notice that ‘family’ holding up Finland flags once the game finished? They were sitting about 8-10 rows below the television cameras.
by Storyteller on Jul 15, 2008 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you see KP talking to any other GMs?
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jul 15, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
although Chris Mullin was hanging out in the hallway near to where Bayless was signing autographs after the game…..
by Storyteller on Jul 15, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate was talking to a guy with a Sactown shirt on during the broadcast
"France is a place where the money falls apart in your hands but you can't tear the toilet paper" - Billy Wilder
by tominhawaii on Jul 15, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What really impressed me about Koponen...
is not so much how good or bad he is right now, but how much he’s improved since last year. If he can improve that much in Finland, imagine what he could accomplish with our coaching staff.
"I love this game!" -Moonbeam, from 'Rollerball' right before he was knocked into a permanent coma
by -ken on Jul 15, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sophia, Cook that meal for me
Come on, I worked hard at hardly working all day! And, my belly needs some something of nutrition. I tell you what, I will get you a hot date, you get me a full belly, and we will both get another win tonight, can you smell it?
Andy
Mike Barrett Says "Yes Sir!', Wheels Says "Boomshakalaka!'
by BlazermaniacAndy on Jul 15, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You should be cooking her dinner.
Better yet, offer to take her out. If she thinks you are worth the time for a second get together, then you can offer to cook her dinner.
btw – have you looked at her pictures? Sophia is the definition of a hot date.
ps – invite her son along.
by timg56 on Jul 16, 2008 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then write a diary about he date
"France is a place where the money falls apart in your hands but you can't tear the toilet paper" - Billy Wilder
by tominhawaii on Jul 16, 2008 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok Dinner on me
The diary will come, if I can get a response.
BTW I just checked out her photo’s, I didn’t know Blazers fans were allowed to be attractive
And her son can come too, I am talking Pizza and Games, any idea’s?
Andy
Mike Barrett Says "Yes Sir!', Wheels Says "Boomshakalaka!'
by BlazermaniacAndy on Jul 16, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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