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Jason Quick has a story about Travis Outlaw's summer workouts in the "O" today.  It's the usual mixed bag...highlighting completely the quandary that is Travis.  Do you celebrate the compliments his coaches give him, their assessment of his potential, and the whispers that someday he could be an All-Star?  Or do you wince at the fact that it's taken him five years in the league to figure out he needs to--I don't know--keep in shape over the summer and that rudimentary workouts are a big achievement for him?  Also cringe-inducing:  his two main foci this summer are dribbling with his left hand (the old two-balls-at-once drill) and trying not to look down when he's dribbling.  That shows you how far he's been behind the normal learning curve.  Of course it also shows you how phenomenal his talent is that he's still been able to make his way through the NBA without being able to complete drills that are second-nature to most fourteen-year-olds.

So where do you rest your feet with this guy?

One thing's for sure:  he's not the young kid anymore.  At 24 and entering his sixth year he's starting to move into his prime years.  He cannot play the ingenue card much longer.  He needs to develop far enough that we stop thinking of him like a kid and start depending on him like a veteran.  Otherwise we're going to be saying the same things when he's 28 years old and ten years into his career, and that would be a waste on multiple levels.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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I wish Martell...

would spend the summer on the two balls at once drill. Nobody needs it more.

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by -ken on Jul 13, 2008 7:21 AM PDT reply actions  

As a big Martell fan

I couldn’t agree more. If he builds the handle the 20 point games will come…

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by Idog1976 on Jul 13, 2008 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad he works on his game

Though four workouts per week in the off-season without playing internationally or in the summer league don’t sound that amazing. Track stars work out twice per day to prepare for the summer when they compete. And a few NBA players do train once or twice each day as well (Arenas, Durant, Allen, Nowitzki, sometimes Kobe comes to my mind), often running or lifting weights early in the morning and then doing shooting drills in the afternoon.

When it comes to suspect ball handling, e.g. Beasley has the same problem. He can’t dribble the ball confidently more than twice while driving to the rim with his off-hand, only for him it’s the right. And he is a rookie. Travis, we will be watching your left hand skills.

Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...

by Norsktroll on Jul 13, 2008 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

If Beasley

takes 2 dribbles from about the three point line then he is nearly at the rim

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 13, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Travis and some teammates...

should take a close look at the blazer situation realtive to contracts and cap-space. I think Travis is one of about 5 rotational players that are in a ‘final audition’. And not all of them are going to make the cut.

Travis’s contract, like Blake’s, is designed to easily become simple cap-space if an opportunity presents itself to KP. And KP seems prone to create opportunities rather then wait for them.

And of course, the three 2005 draft picks…webster, frye, and diogu…also have contractual status that makes them expendable for the sake of cap-space, just like outlaw and blake.

So it’s good that Travis “gets it” this summer. And yes, it’s bad that it took him till this summer to do so.

This coming season will be huge in determining the composition of portland’s roster for the next few years. We know Lafrentz will be gone. And it’s really looking like Sergio will be gone as well. If Kaponen is signed, sergio being moved is almost a certainty. And the chances don’t seem good that Diogu will be a blazer in 2010.

So the questions about outlaw, blake, webster, and frye will almost certainly be answered this coming season. If Travis is actually showing commitment to his career and the team, he’ll have a good chance of remaining a blazer.

by moldorf on Jul 13, 2008 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Travis must be

the antithesis of a gym rat. I thought the most telling was Monty Williams’ comment, ””He’s so talented, man. He has no clue just how much,” Williams said. “I told him once that he is going to get to be my age and wished he would have worked. I think that sunk in. “

Does that kind of thing “sink in”? Or are you born a gym rat?

I wish they had been able to motivate him earlier ; then I might believe in his dream to be an all-star. It sounds like he dreamed it, but thought it would come without effort.

I hope it works, i hope it works, i hope it works.

"We will do nice things!" - Rudy, 07/01/08

by jorga on Jul 13, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Better late than never

I think the thing that impressed me most about Travis last year is that he used actual basketball moves by finally using a few head and ball fakes rather than relying purely on athleticism.

Also, I remember an article about Samaki Walker and how he didnt work on his game enough when he was in the league. Maybe someone could find this and forward it to Travis.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 13, 2008 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

A River Runs Through It

Maybe he should watch that movie so he can see how much work it takes to be a fisherman and then apply that to basketball. I would even be willing to pitch in on a metronome for him.

To agree with other posters…working out 4 days a week does not seem that impressive. Although the workouts may be really hard.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 13, 2008 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

He needs a NW fishing guide for the summer

I’m sure Travis likes heading home for the summer, but really, fishing isn’t good enough in the NW? Come’on . . . .

Travis should be able to work out here most of the summer and STILL get some good fishing in. Where’s the rub?

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Jul 14, 2008 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Travis is just about there....

I think Travis Outlaw only has a few more little kinks to work out in his game and he’ll be set. There’s all this talk about how good Travis COULD be or COULD HAVE been (All-Star, maybe). But do we really need that? Granted, he should come to camp in shape every year, and its too bad that hasn’t been the case, but even if we want Travis to be our starting SF, he’s still going to be more or less a role player for us. If he is the starter at the spot, he needs to be able to stay in front of faster small forwards, but do we need him to be another guy that can create his own shot off the dribble? That one dribble pull up jumper seems like an enough of a go-to move to me. I do agree that final auditions are upon some guys on the team (I wonder if Sergio is even gonna get a read at one) and that Travis is one of them. But I do not agree that he has a long way to go.

by MattyDread on Jul 13, 2008 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the issue I have with

only having the one effective move is it becomes less effective when teams play him for it. It seemed that teams would just put a smaller player on Travis to keep him on the perimeter so he would not be able to set up a better shot, and since he can elevate over almost all defenders, just keeping a hand in his face is about as much contesting as you can do, so smaller defenders are the best you can do against him. If he can develop a drop step, or even recognize that a smaller player is on him and he can just go straight up rather than fading away, it would improve his scoring opportunities immensely and also make them high percentage opportunities. Then teams would be forced to use a bigger and possibly slower player against him where he could slash and set up higher percentage shots.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 13, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

But I just wonder how often defending coaches are going to thinking too much about how to guard Travis Outlaw when there are Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, and LaMarcus Aldridge to worry about. If Travis can hit a spot up jumper when he gets it kicked to him from one of those guys, and play decent defense we’ll be ok with him as a starter. But, ya know, I think Webster is ahead of Travis on the defense and rebounding aspects of the game, and that as much as anything is why I bet Nate keeps Travis with the white unit. He says its because he wont get many touches with the starters, and I’m sure that’s part of it, but Martel seems to have a leg up on Travis on the three things we really need from our starting SF: Outside shooting, defense, and some rebounding.

by MattyDread on Jul 13, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

it looks like you joined up last week. Cool to see some new people making good posts.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jul 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

This place is great, glad to be a part of it.

by MattyDread on Jul 13, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I guess that's why

his ballhandling has improved so little in the last five years. Christ, he finally figured out that it’s one of his major weaknesses? This is his first summer working on his left? Gah.

by howlingfantods on Jul 13, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Competition at SF

An added incentive was drafting Batum.
He will push both Webster and Outlaw to broaden their games.
Outlaw should not lapse back into cruise with Batman flashing all the skills needed at SF.

Great choice in the draft.

by spencerbutte on Jul 13, 2008 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree.

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on Jul 13, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defense

is Batum’s speciality, so Travis and Martel should get the message that is what the 3 needs to do as a starter, and get their shots when the big 3 are on the bench.

by DucRider on Jul 14, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw is just an idiot, but that's okay

It simply takes him longer to get things figured out than it takes other people on the team. Nonetheless, he is an extremely talented idiot. He reminds me a bit of Bonzi – the Turtle puts his head down and goes and that’s exactly what you want. He’s like a really talented salesman who might lack a few marbles. You don’t hire him to run the company, but he does an excellent job in his role. Not everybody on the team needs to be brilliant. That said, any additional skills are wonderful – he didn’t even have enough basic skills to be a serious 6th man prior to last year. But I wouldn’t expect him to pair his mad physical talents with Roy’s mad mental talents :)

by runningbol on Jul 13, 2008 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

You are certainly entitled to your opinion

and you are entitled to share that opinion with all the rest of us on Blazers Edge.

But, somehow, your remarks about Travis just don’t seem to fit in very well with the overall - looking for the right word here, but can’t find it - mood, spirit or ambiance of this Website. I notice that this is your first post to BE, so maybe you haven’t spent much time looking around here and listening to what everybody else is saying.

We’re fans here, but we’re the kind of fans who really get attached to our favorite players. Lots of us really like Travis. We like the way he plays, and we like his homespun personality. In effect, you’re insulting a member of the extended family. That hurts.

And, although I don’t personally know Travis, I strongly believe you are wrong about him, and that you’re confusing his humble demeanor with a lack of intelligence. A good argument can be made that Travis has some deficits in his game, and that he would have been well-served to work at overcoming those prior to this summer. But, can you honestly say that you, yourself, have made all the best career moves possible, and that you’ve never put off doing something and later regretted it.

I am 55 years old, and to me Travis is a kid. Pretty much all the kids I run into are in the process of figuring out what life is all about and where they fit in. They’re making mistakes and learning about themselves and others. Why should we expect anything different from Travis.

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by CatMan2 on Jul 13, 2008 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

#25

recced

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by annthefan on Jul 13, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't call him an idiot, per se.

I might say he has a “low basketball IQ,” but that’s as far as I’d go. He seems reasonably intelligent.

"I think it’s going to be very beautiful game next year."
-Batuuuuuuuum!

by rockingharder on Jul 13, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw is the Michael Scott of basketball

Not the manager type, but a kick ass role player. Outlaw saves his income earnings instead of spending it like he’s PA, this puts him smarter than 90% of Americans. So I wouldn’t necessarily call him an idiot, just lacking in some BB IQ.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Jul 13, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

careful with the "idiot" talk please

that’s pushing the envelope.

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by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize for the idiot comment

I have actually been on BE for several years now, just not with a new ID – ‘cause I don’t post much.

I think Travis is great, but he is – in many ways – ‘raw’ – after years of play. He fills a far more narrow role than it seems that he should and it takes him years to figure things out. It seems (and again much of my experience is from afar – I’ve been living in Australia) that it takes him longer than most to figure out the plays and to get with what the Blazers as 5 men on the court are doing.

People can express that with ‘gah’ or ‘does not seem that impressive.’ I think it has been clear that either he lacks effort or it just takes him more effort to ‘get it.’ In my book, the second category is far better than the first. I’m not eager to cheer for those who don’t try – but if he’s trying (and he certainly plays with that spirit) then he can be a little slower on the uptake than our high basketball IQ players but be valuable to the team, well worth cheering for and and well worth supporting.

I played in an Australian amateur league of brilliant players who knew far more about the game (esp. the international game) than I did. We were regularly crushed by people who didn’t know the game – but could shoot. A whole bunch of the Blazers team seems to fit into the high iq category. It is great to have a guy on the bench who can show up and just do it. Travis can just get it done – no matter what’s going on in the game.

With a little more time and patience he can be extremely valuable indeed.

by runningbol on Jul 13, 2008 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hear you

thanks for the explanation… you make a lot of good points…

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by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2008 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Many people would consider a man

who is making $4M per year at age 24 brilliant! There is nothing about intelligence in Quick’s article. Only about motivation. Travis grew up in a place where the summer is for fishing and taking it easy. He likely didn’t have crack deals going down on his corner (especially with his dad the Chief of Police). He did not have to escape his environment. So the transition from “potential” to “achiever” has been slow. It is true for many men in many fields. The difference in Travis’ field is that it is over in 10 more years. That tends to accelerate the progress.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 13, 2008 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

$4m/yr at 24

Is a sign of talents well used.

by runningbol on Jul 13, 2008 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

May always be a Super Sub

Unfortunately, that is all Travis may ever be. Although, every team needs one, and Travis as of now is ours, thank god.

Killer instinct. When you have your opponent down, you do not help them up. You step on their throat!!!!!!

by Misplaced Blazermaniac on Jul 13, 2008 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

The comments from Nate and Williams

“He is as big a part of this team as Brandon, in the sense that he is a guy who can score against anybody,” McMillan said. “So when you talk about guys you’d hate not having for a game, he’s right up there for us. And I think he can get even better. He still has some untapped talent.”

I mean, Manu Ginobili couldn't guard him, he gave Carmelo Anthony fits, and when we played the Lakers, they had Kobe on him.

by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2008 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Boy, I screwed that post up.

Considering the comments made by Nate and Williams, I think some are being way to critical of Outlaw. Give him some credit. He’s obviously already developed into a tremendous offensive threat … maybe the 2nd best on our team. I very much appreciate everything about him.

“He is as big a part of this team as Brandon, in the sense that he is a guy who can score against anybody,” McMillan said. “So when you talk about guys you’d hate not having for a game, he’s right up there for us. And I think he can get even better. He still has some untapped talent.”
I mean, Manu Ginobili couldn’t guard him, he gave Carmelo Anthony fits, and when we played the Lakers, they had Kobe on him.

by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

With Jack gone

Blazer fans are in need of a new scapegoat; a patsy to blame when the team hits a rough patch.

I fear that Outlaw is the likely frontrunner for that role. If not him, then Martell.

by knickfan on Jul 13, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

The Blazes will win so much the only spare time will be spent pouring Champaign.

Joel Freeland=Stud

by hightide on Jul 13, 2008 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some will be disappointed if we fail to break the league wins record for the season

Others will be covered in champaign! Good point.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 13, 2008 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sergio seems like the next scapegoat

if he get’s any minutes. Frye could be on the list too but I think he’ll have a better year by coming into camp in better shape (although I haven’t seen anything about what he’d doing this summer related to basketball).

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Jul 14, 2008 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with two deep

actually when a coach in the nba wants you to come off the bench so that you can shoot the ball. and..youre going to have a couple of other fellas with good offensive games in the line up with you,, but you are the primary option , you arent doing too bad for your self… basketball is a game of many different things..but scoring is the pinnacle.. the blazers want him putting up shots..thats a good thing in my book

if it can be conceived it can be achieved

by lyfefindsaway on Jul 13, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drexler Dribbled with His Head Down

He also shot the ball without any arc. As much as I loved watching him play, I hope no one models their game on his.

My point is that it is difficult to judge him too harshly for being unable to do things that some of the 50 greatest players couldn’t do.

I do think that this shift in his approach to summers is not only what will determine whether or not he meets his potential, but it is also the thing that will determine how long his career is. Right now he can out quick and out leap people. That won’t last forever.

by grigs on Jul 13, 2008 11:52 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is the first thing to come to mind.

Clyde was notorious for driving with his head down! He talks about how his flat shot developed in his book, Clyde the Glide (a must read for any Blazer fan, behind Breaks of the Game)

I’m not too worried about Travis’ development. Him, Bayless and Rudy out on the court together, once they figure it out, will be the hardest second unit to stop in the game.

by Bedhead on Jul 13, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree about Breaks of the Game

Think it’s time to re-read Halberstam’s Blazer book, and also Adelman’s Long, Hot Winter

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by OBJuan72 on Jul 13, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Run Travis Run!

Travis gives our team that human element so rare nowadays in pro sports. Good grief, the fishing stories, the genuine “Aw Shucks” personality, he is just so gosh darn loveable. If he were ever to be traded, man oh man would he be sorely missed by so many of us.

It simply Travis being Travis. Just that now he is speaking up (or finally being asked questions because he is an important piece of the Blazer pie ), I don’t know which came first.

Yep, Outlaw and Roy are like peas and carrots.

The Oden Era, Day 382

by Heymoe on Jul 13, 2008 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Best value in the NBA

He probably won 6 to 8 games for the Blazers single handedly by carrying the team in the fourth quarter. Even if it is taking him a while to figure out the work side, he is likeable and humble. With two more seasons at 4 mil a piece, the Blazers are practically stealing from this guy. I challenge anyone to name a better contract in NBA.

by bigjmoney on Jul 13, 2008 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Brandon Roy

2008-9 $3,084,240

2009-10 $3,910,816

Yes it’s under the rookie scale, but you just said a better one. Did I win?

by Bedhead on Jul 13, 2008 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 times a week

is a lot better than 0 times a week he was presumably practicing in the past.

Just sayin’.

My ignorance is my greatest weapon

by shenanigans on Jul 13, 2008 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Everyone missed the best part of the article
“You can already see his body changing,” Williams said. “And he’s talking about lifting more. Part of that is vanity, but who cares? If it gets done, it gets done. The bottom line is, he is taking that step, and it’s going to be tremendous for him.”

Outlaw wants to be on the cover of GQ baby! Whatever works.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Jul 13, 2008 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah...He jus wants to pick up chicks

Mortimer: "It’ll be so nice I’ll need microfracture—ON MY WEINER."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 13, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Travis, tell us how about your date.....

Trout: Coach was like, “Travis do you want a date.” I was like…yeaaah…

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Jul 13, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha HA

There go the date

Mortimer: "It’ll be so nice I’ll need microfracture—ON MY WEINER."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahhahhha. That's my boy!

“We comin’ aling.”

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by annthefan on Jul 13, 2008 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh guts!

"We comin’ along." I want editorial license over my own posts. Dang it.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're so dirty

You’re gonna make the authoritahs shut the whole damn Blazers Edge down talking like that, AnntheFan!

I think you’re a sleeper cell, working secretly for the Lakers…

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, we comin’ along inDEED.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 14, 2008 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

How dare you! It's squirt guns at 10 paces. My honor has been besmirched!

The nerve of you suggesting I work for the Fakers. I’m not the one living in LA after all. “We comin’ along” is a direct quote from the sainted Travis in response to a question from …..............Rebecca? Oops.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 14, 2008 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rebecca Harlow is his eye's desire . . . .

You could see the nervous energy in the interviews last season. Or maybe that was just Travis.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Jul 14, 2008 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!

That’s what caught my eye, too.

I guess vanity has its value.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jul 14, 2008 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope

That LA and Channing have been in the weight room as well.I have the same type of build and I know how hard it can be to but on beef. The politically correct term for persons with this condition is horozontally challenged.

by southern oregon on Jul 13, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

The accurate term

is young. Age is a certain cure for being horizontally challenged.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jul 14, 2008 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basics

I’d rather see Travis practicing dribbling with his left than doing windmill dunks. You never get too good to practice basics. I’d bet the great Pete Maravich did the two ball drill throughout his whole career and Larry Bird never got too good to practice free throws.

BTW, I don’t think I ever saw Clyde Drexler drive without looking down at the ball and I think it hurt his game.

by tiesque on Jul 13, 2008 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Has the light come on?

Has Travis seen the interviews with Jerryd Bayless and realized that his rookie teammate will be all over his posterior if he is not in shape? I think it has just taken a few years for Travis to transision into maturity, That is pretty common for youngsters who grew up in safe environments. Bayless seems the anomaly at his age. Both are great.

Many still consider Wilt the most gifted basketball player ever. There is good evidence to support this. But Alex Hannum was the coach that convinced Wilt to defer to his teammates and Wilt won his first championship that year (1966-1967) despite being 30 years old and all NBA (1st or end team) all previous 7 years in the league. He averaged 21.7 points, 29.1 rebounds and 9.0 assists in the playoffs that year. It was the first year he did not average 30 points per game (and he never did again).

Michael Jordan (the other candidate for the above) changed his game in later years and no doubt wished he had the perception earlier to use all his gifts. Same for Dr J.

And I am not putting Travis into the company of these other-worldly talents. Just pointing out that nobody gets it all at age 19.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jul 13, 2008 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Encouraging Deficiencies

Putting the mental aspects of the game aside for the moment, excelling at basketball requires certain physical givens combined with highly developed skills. The physical givens-things like height, reach, jumping, speed & quickness-have an established range beyond which even the most dedicated player cannot exceed. Work in the gym and weight room can help some in realizing their potential, but even the most dedicated gym rat confronts his genetic limits. There’s nothing more you can do to significantly grow taller, run faster, reach longer, jump higher, move laterally more quickly. It is precisely in these given physical attributes, what we most often call “athleticism,” that Outlaw is blessed.

When it comes to basketball skills, however, it seems to me that there’s a much less certain, preordained range for each player. Skills are taught and learned. That Outlaw has succeeded as far as he has without learning some basic basketball skills: dribbling with the off hand and dribbling with the head up is a testament to how extraordinary his athleticism is. He had the opportunity before to learn these skills and either did not not understand that he lacked them or did not think they were important and necessary. According to Quick, Outlaw now understands and he is determined to do something about these deficiencies. And what is so encouraging is that, unlike athleticism, these deficiencies can be fixed.

A number of people have conjectured that Outlaw peaked last season. Quick’s article suggests, to the contrary, that the best of Travis is yet to come.

by Trutherlizer on Jul 13, 2008 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I think I remember reading that Travis came into the league with just about zero basketball skills.

He was drafted on his athleticism alone. Yes? No?

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by annthefan on Jul 13, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right as I recall

Mortimer: "It’ll be so nice I’ll need microfracture—ON MY WEINER."

by 92wastheyear on Jul 13, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say ZERO

The dude led his high school team in scoring and was something of a phenom. Then again, maybe close to ZERO because he did rely mostly on his athleticism to be the high school star that he was.

Winning is everything.

by MT Suit on Jul 14, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I also seem to remember that basketball was an afterthought at his high school and

the coaching left a lot to be desired. His coaches had no idea what to do with talent like that.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jul 15, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Live in the Now

It definitely does not thrill me to realize that this will be Travis’ first offseason where he has attempted to stay in shape throughout. Taking six years to do something that it appears most players do after one or two is a bit discouraging. But perhaps SOME leniency can be granted by the simple fact that he didn’t necessarily have the best group of mentors during his first few years on the team. Last offseason’s fishing derby can be attributed to the fact that he was up for a new contract, and likely received such advice from his agent.

Sure, I wish Travis had taken this attitude from the beginning, but what’s done is done. He is working hard in the offseason NOW and considering the positives he brought to the court last year, it indicates a potential breakout year (again) this season.

by MrGrinch on Jul 13, 2008 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

As an aside

Let’s not forget that Trout also has asthma. This is just conjecture on my part, but he may have spent some of the off-season in the past giving his body and lungs a rest. Asthma (unfortunately, due to a 7-mile bike ride in L.A. during a Stage 1 Smog Alert while I was in grad school, I now have a smog-induced variety) can really take the starch out of you.

by DonkeyShins on Jul 13, 2008 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I got his asthma

And staying in tip top shape is how you fight it, there is no giving it a rest like how you describe.

Outlaw just didn’t have a good work ethic without someone telling him what to do and when. I’m very glad he is FINALLY working during the summer, and I wish he never left Portland in previous offseasons. He can’t be relied on to do what he needs to do when he is on his own, I’d say.

He’s made these improvements just by working with the coaches during the season; the summer is one of the best times to improve and thus far he has ignored it. I know Trout is a much better kid, but if Miles suddenly started working hard during the summer (he never did either) we’d be saying “yeah right believe it when I see it”.

I really hope this is a change in attitude and seriousness from Outlaw, but I do believe part of being a hard worker and a gym rat is natural and can’t be forced. I don’t get the thirst for greatness sense from Outlaw, or else he woulda’ worked out a helluva lot more over the years. Raw or not, he’s finally just working out before his 6th season… his SIXTH. That’s insane…

When you’re out of shape, the athletic asthma he has is soooooooo much worse. Even in great shape it sucks, and could prevent him from playing more than 30 mins for his whole career. He shouldn’t give his lungs a chance to ‘rest’, as constant vigilance and staying in shape is the best thing for his asthma.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jul 14, 2008 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is one of the reasons

I predict a really big increase in wins this year.

What will Travis be if he actually learns to play basketball? If he actually puts on a little weight?

He was a very good 6th man this last year.

He is a ticking time bomb that could explode this year in the face of all Blazer opponents.

We have lots of ticking time bombs. LMA could be a legitimate all-star. Oden could be one of the top five centers. Rudy could be great. Bayless could be a top 15 PG by the end of the year. Martell could step up another level.

Which time bombs will explode? I don’t know if any of them will. But if even one of them does, we’re a much stronger team than last year, and if two of them do, look out.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jul 14, 2008 1:59 AM PDT reply actions  

All I want from this blazer "dynasty" (cross my fingers)

Is for Brandon Roy to be able to have a highlight reel of game winning buzzer beaters, and to repeat the Jordanesque midair hand switch about 4 more times. That would be spectacular. Also, I hope Roy averages 8.5+ assists next year, and has at least 4 35+ point games. If he can accomplish all those things (I know that’s a big if) then I think we can win multiple championships with this team even if none of the rooks truly explode and LMA/Martell/Travis play like they did last year. Honestly, people should not stop putting pressure on Roy to improve as much as they expect the other guys to just because he was an all star. I don’t want him to reach a plateau just yet. He has a shot at becoming the greatest blazer ever, and our real Mr 4th Quarter (no offense to Outlaw).

by premthegrem on Jul 14, 2008 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Brandon taking another step up is another possible explosion. But even if he plateaus, this could be a great team.

I will be surprised if Brandon takes major steps forward, though. I expect marginal improvement (in areas like 3 pt shooting, for instance) for a few more years. But I don’t think he’ll ever be MJ/Lebron. It’s cool, he doesn’t have to be.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jul 14, 2008 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's never too late

Przybilla improved his free throw shooting (can you say fundamental?!) in his what, 7th summer in the league? And immediately increased his value. So Travis improving in a fundamental skill late isn’t necessarily an indication of lack of hard work but rather an indication of maturing late. The Blazers knew he was a late bloomer, and he has demonstrated that. Even if he never gets any better he will be a good spark off the bench, and probably worth $4 mil a year to the Blazers.

by jamon51 on Jul 14, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

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