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The Drool Factor

OK, I'll admit it.  While going over our prospective lineup for the next few years in my mind this weekend I really started to salivate.  Some of those names together really roll off of the tongue.  I don't even have to say them...you know who they are.

Which brings us to the question of the day.  Let's skip the bumps and bruises and learning curves of the next couple of years and jump ahead to the really good stuff.  Let's look three years down the road to 2010-11, Greg Oden's third year on the court.  Most folks who anticipate the Blazers' fortunes rising would point to that as a safe year for purposes of claiming real contention.  What I'd like from you is our 2010-11 lineup, starters and the top three bench players.  Obviously some of the guys will be from our current team.  I'm not asking you to identify the players who will be new.  If you think the person filling a particular position is not on our team yet, just put "Someone Else".  So your lineup might look like... C: Oden, PF: Aldridge, SF: Someone Else, etc.  I guess if you thought our Big Three would be the only enduring players you'd put their names and five "Someone Elses"! 

I'm curious to see who you think plays where in three years and how many current Blazers will remain.  Have fun, and don't forget the drool bib!

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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My crystal ball guess

PG – Koponen
SG – Roy
SF – Fernandez
PF – Aldridge
C – Oden

I’m sure we are going to buy a free agent next year, but…....

by spencerbutte on Jun 9, 2008 1:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I love it...

Koponen comes in after several red-hot years in Europe for a 2010-2011 rookie season in the NBA where he joins three-time All-Star Brandon Roy, Blocks/Rebound leader Greg “Old Man” Oden and YouTube-tastic alley-oop duo Stretch Aldridge and Rudy “The Mallorcan Rocket” Fernandez.

Boom-Shacka-locka!

RipCity's a state of mind

by Y5k on Jun 9, 2008 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

... and

Outlaw/Priz off the bench.

RipCity's a state of mind

by Y5k on Jun 9, 2008 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

omg I can see it now

Blazers have their 3rd R.O.Y. in 5 five years and fans of other teams are trying to ban us from the draft all together. (Actually it’s the fourth ROY as in ‘09 the trophy is shared by Oden and Fernandez. ) There are tidal waves of rumors calling for anyone with experience in a top European league to be declared ineligible for the award. Keven Pritchard is offered megabucks to jump to the Knicks, but remains in Portland as, “I like it here”.

by jorga on Jun 9, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

with another 2010-2011 rookie:

fresh from the European league: Batnum – better known in the future as BATMAN -

after maturing to become our own affordable version of Shawn Marion.

by spencerbutte on Jun 9, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!!!

The finland kid is IN!

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I imagine

PG - OJ Mayo
SG—Brandon
SF - Webster
PF - Aldridge
C - Greg Oden
#1 6th man Rudy Fernandez,
#2 6th man Outlaw
#3 6th man Pryzbilla

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 9, 2008 1:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I need a bib...

PG: Brandon Roy
SG: Rudy Fernandez
SF: Travis Outlaw
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: Greg Oden
6th: Martell Webster
7th: Steve Blake
8th: Joel Przybilla

by Jumbo on Jun 9, 2008 2:15 AM PDT reply actions  

My prediction

PG: Someone else
SG: Roy
SF: Martell
PF: Aldridge
C: Oden
1. Fernandez
2. Przybilla
3. Outlaw

Beaver believer!

by mannyfresh1 on Jun 9, 2008 2:19 AM PDT reply actions  

chika chika

ooh yah (just like the twix comercial)
I would switch outlaw and pryz
this does get one kinda excited

"See all the green underlined thingies? All those are over five recs. Then your post down there in the purple--it has 0 recs :( So it doesn’t make it in the "recommended" section." prezofdeath

Celtics over the L*kers, lesser of the 2 evils. But not by much.

by ptwnblzr on Jun 9, 2008 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Much the same as Jumbo's except

PG: Brandon Roy
SG: Rudy Fernandez
SF: Travis Outlaw
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: Greg Oden
6th: Joel Przybilla
7th: Channing Frye
8th: Martell Webster

And Roy and Rudy can switch depending on the situation.

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jun 9, 2008 2:30 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

This lineup also legislates for patience as they are all presently our property (or soon will be). Nice. It does make me wonder where we play our pick 13 player from this year? We do need a third guard to rotate with Roy and Rudy to give one at a time some rest. That guard might be Martell or it might be a more traditional point guard.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 9, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not Blake...

Considering the role you are giving him I think he would work out fine.

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Jun 9, 2008 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lesseee...

PG: Rudy/Roy
SG: Roy/Rudy
SF: Martell “me about” Webster
PF: Ellie Mae
C: Oden
6th: Travis the Outlaw
7th: Steve Vanilla Milk-Blake
8: Jor-el Pryzbilla

With Travis for instant offense and always willing to come off the bench, Rudy isn’t needed to come off the bench and is slowly integrated into the starting lineup. Blake and Pryzzle become the solidest backups at their respective positions in many a moon.

We go 82 and 0.

This is also more of a ‘hopeful’ prediction than a confident one; my listing at PG should probably be “someone else” and Rudy and Outlaw come off the bench first.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 4:32 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I second this

Except you forgot to add 16 wins in the post season with no losses. With Roy and Rudy starting, Webster will have to start for his defense.

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I´m worried about

how the rest of America will feel whith the West All-star team black unit:
PG: Roy
SG: Rudy
SF: Webster
PF: LMA/Outlaw
C: Oden

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jun 9, 2008 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite thing about it

Is that they are all guys we drafted.

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Technically . . .

. . . Chicago drafted LMA and Minnesota drafted Roy, and we traded for them.

Technically, a tomato is a fruit.
Mango season coming.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Jun 9, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh

Technically the woman I met in Tijuana while I was in the navy was a ‘woman,’ but that is another story. I’ll change it to “never played on another team.”

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Technically . . . . . .

Rudy Fernandez was selected by the Phoenix Suns as 24th overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jun 9, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Technically, you're Mexican

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Technically, I´m mostly water.

But If I think how much pop-corn I´ve eaten I agree with you that I´m mexican.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jun 9, 2008 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

That was not my intention.

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't intend to burn down my neighbor's

large Alpine spruce shrub a couple of years back when I lit off a morter bomb in the middle of the cul de sac, but that was the end result.

Cost me $2000. (They let me off cheap. It would have cost at least half again as much to replace it with a similar sized one. Damn thing was big. Imagine my chagrin when they sold the house last year and the new owners yanked the matching one on the other side of the driveway and tossed it in the dumpster.)

In this instance I choose to look at the positives. I wasn’t married at the time, so I don’t have to listen to my wife bring it up when regaling me with a history of my past mistakes. Of course my neighbors don’t hesitate to remind me, particularly every 4th of July.

by timg56 on Jun 9, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably they let you off cheap because they hid a corpse

or something. Did you try to discover it going to their garden by night and digging up a little?.
2.000 dollars is not that much for so a good story to tell to your friends and children.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jun 10, 2008 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep,

This is how I see it happening too. The regular season might be longer than 82 though after the assoc. has expanded into Europe.

by LaughingJon on Jun 9, 2008 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know that you are just having fun, but...

there is nothing feminine about LMA. You wouldn’t call Brandon, Brandi would you? would you?
(I probably should not have given you any ideas)

LMA's reign as "LaMonster of the Low Post" has just begun!

by LaMarvelous on Jun 9, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmm Brandi

That was the name of the first girl I ever truly loved and stalked.

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ellie Mae

Is how “LMA” sounds like when said out loud real fast and maybe mumbling. That’s all.

I don’t think LMA is a girl, but I wish he was so I could impregnate him without the experimental surgical procedure I am funding.

I also don’t think he is soft in the way people say he is. I love LMA.

Morty-murr

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

PG- Westbrook,
SG- Roy
C- Oden
SF- Webster
PF- Aldridge

PG- Jack, Sergio, Kaponan
SG- Rudy, Taylor (u of o)
C- Zilla
SF- Outlaw
PF- Frye, Freeland

Notice that’s basically next years team sans Jones, McBob and LaFrenz with Westbrook, U of O’s Bryce Taylor and our stashed Euros. Why is it the same basic team as next year? Why break up a championship team?

Drroooooooollll

by Blazersaurus on Jun 9, 2008 5:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think the finland kid

is coming over next year. I think they’ll want to develop him more.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH and Blake will be gone but only because he misses Alan Iverson so much

by Blazersaurus on Jun 9, 2008 5:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm glad

you all see Martell with the team in 3 years. Indeed, even if he still has many flaws in his game he’s one of if not my favorite player on the team and I see his name in trade rumors more than others’. I’m also affraid that with the actual roster and especially the acquisition of Fernandez he might be the odd man out.
I still believe he’ll be a great player one day, just think he may not have a place in Portland.

by Blenzer on Jun 9, 2008 6:22 AM PDT reply actions  

As long as he's a SF...

Then I don’t worry as much about Martell. I know he can be traded anytime, I’m confident it’d only be for someone who will really help us, but I think he has a place here otherwise as the SF of the future.

My prediction means Outlaw doesn’t become a starter for various reasons, none of them involve him being an underwhelming player… just a guy better suited to coming in off the bench and bending the game to his will, keeping the scoring going as the 1st unit subs out.

Also, my prediction makes FRYE the odd guy out, as Martell gets his at SF, Trout at mostly PF and SF, Pryzz at Center, and Frye gets scraps or nuthin’. I like Frye a lot, I just think the others help us more… and Trout’s problems at PF last year will be helped tremendously by being next to Joel or Oden (same can be said for Frye, of course).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking like you are

but then, I’m not sure I love Outlaw being a PF, of course, he causes mismatches, but he’s mismatched as well, plus he’s a bad rebounder for a 4…
Martell’s body’s more powerful for a 2 than at the 3…
He’s a very strong SG, but a very average SF.

by Blenzer on Jun 9, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head

I can’t think of a good SF that is a heaping tablespoon bigger than Martell, aside from Lebron or Ron Artest.

Paul Pierce, Richard Jefferson, Gerald Wallace, Peja, AK-47, Rashard, Carmelo… none of them are bigger than Martell (AK is longer, but not stronger, same with Rashard).

I must be forgetting someone.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to say

LONGER.
There are a lot of SFs from 6’8 to 6’10, Martell is 6’7, like Clyde.
Of course, Martell’s body is enough to play the 3, I just thought that he was more impressive for a 2… Plus he said he planned to work during this summer on being a 2 as well as a 3.

by Blenzer on Jun 11, 2008 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

when you’re 6’7, it’s easier to shoot over a guy from 6’4 to 6’6, than one from 6’7 to 6’10.
So yes, I definitely wanted to say LONGER or TALLER.

by Blenzer on Jun 11, 2008 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish

That teams re-did measurements that were done in the pre-draft camps, especially in the case of HS-to-the-pros type kids. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that Martell had grown an inch or so. Most people do keep growing between 18-23.

Pippen grew 4-6 inches during college, I grew 2 inches, so therefore Martell is pushing 7 feet tall.

I’d LOVE for Martell to be able to play SG, but for his sake I hope he can stick at the SF. With Roy and Rudy, I don’t think Martell has the opportunity to really play much SG even if he becomes the best dribbler in the world. Besides, I’d love for a SF to be able to dribble as well, so Martell’s guard work this summer won’t go to waste.

I feel like a lot more SF’s of yesteryear are playing PF today, such as Gerald Wallace or Shawn Marion or Rashard.

You are 100% right, of course, it is much easier to shoot over someone smaller and while Martell is a big SG, he is a normal sized SF. But since he is at least normal sized for SF, he doesn’t stand out as undersized for a SF and while he might be too slow to guard SGs, he’s perfect for guarding SFs. It kinda evens out in my eyes, and he’s athletic enough for both positions.

And since I like Martell, I want him to be our fit at SF so we don’t gotta move him.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 11, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fans...

I guess everyone thinks our current team just needs to “grow” and championships will be handed to us.

Realistic Line up in 3 years.
PG – Someone else
SG – Brandon Roy
SF – Someone else
PF – Lma
C – Oden

Bench: Rudy
Bench: Joel
Bench: Someone else

Outlaw, Blake, Jack, Frye, etc… will all be gone in trades to bring us quality starters at the point and small forward.

by usmcr3049 on Jun 9, 2008 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

I can't see Pritchard standing pat...

with all of the flexibility we will have with moveable assets and salary cap… so my lineup three years out is a little different in its makeup:

PG: Ben Gordon
SG: Brandon Roy (Even though he runs the Point)
SF: Marvin Williams (One of the brightest and acquirable RFA’s next year)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: Greg Oden
6th: Rudy Fernandez
7th: Travis Outlaw
8th: Channing Frye
9th: Joel Pryzbilla

by Salem Stephen on Jun 9, 2008 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I hear ya on Marvin

And I’ve always liked him too, and he had some great all-round games for the Hawks. But for that reason I think they keep him, even with Childress and Josh Smith on the team. He’s a great jumpshooter on a team without that, long, lanky, YOUNG (was only 18 when drafted), and has improved each year.

He might be gotten in a trade, and maybe he and his agent decides to out-price him for the cheap Hawks (who gotta pay Josh Smith and Childress soon), but otherwise I don’t think he is ultra-aquirable.

If KP liked him, I think it’s possible. But not probable.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going with the "out-price"

No doubt, Atlanta would love to keep Marvin Williams, but Josh Smith and Josh Childress are RFA’s this year meaning they will both get their contracts. With Horford, Josh Smith and Josh Childress on the roster, I can’t see Atlanta matching an offer of $9M per year for a player who would be just a back-up (although the best backup in the league.) Unless Atlanta trades him this season to a team that would use him as a starter, I think we could sign him away next off-season.

by Salem Stephen on Jun 9, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He started all last season

Do you mean Childress would BECOME the starter after re-signing, and Marvin would be forced to the bench? Because all last season and the previous season when Marvin was healthy, it was Marvin startin’ and playing 30+.

I’ve watched more Hawks games than I care to admit.

Horford is gonna be soooo good.

You’re right, the Hawks are gonna have to make some decisions… I think they might move Josh Smith, as wacky as it sounds, because even though his stats are crazy he’s so often selfish and would have a lotta more value than anyone else. It’s hard to argue with his talent, and he produces stat lines that are a thing of beauty. Kinda a dummy though.

I hope ownership is willing to spend a LIL’ bit to keep their team together (I mean, for Hawks’ fans’ sake), because I’d hate it if stupid Mike Bibby gets billions of dollars but actually talented players like Marvin or Childress get traded because they can’t afford to have them. And that would mean they can’t afford to have a good team.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 10, 2008 4:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Marvin as well

but he was 19 when drafted in 2005. He played one year for UNC and banked a championship then declared. It was that draft which selected Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Martell Webster Channing Frye, Andrew Bynum, Jarrett Jack, Luther Head and Linus Kleiza after Williams. Hard to argue that Williams might not yet be great.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 9, 2008 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was slightly off

He was a true 18 as a frosh, just turned 19 right before he was drafted.

I remembered he was the actual normal age for Freshman, which doesn’t always happen (OJ Mayo is 21 or so right now).

He’s from Seattle too, and is friends (or at least friendly) with Roy and Martell. TEAM CHEMISTRY IMPROVED? Hmm, probably not, someone’s minutes would eat it and it wouldn’t be Roy.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 10, 2008 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

'Ere ya goo.

First unit:
Guards: Rudy & Roy
Sma’ Fo’ard: Trout
Bigs: LaMardridge & Oden

Second Unit:
Point Guard: The Petter
Wings: MarWeb & someone decent (but not Roy/LMA/Oden material) acquired with 2009 offseason cap space or a later MLE
Bigs: Frye & Joel

The Petter will be in his first season with us, replacing Blake (whose last option year is 2009-2010),
and Freeland will come over next season, to replace/accompany Przy (the Joel combo),
whose last year of this contract will be 2010-2011.

And we will have executed my draft-pick trade ideas for this year, where we trade
our 13th and 56th picks to Phoenix for their 2010 first-rounder (the #8 pick in that draft, ready for next year),
and the 33rd & 36th picks to Dallas for their 2009 first-rounder, which was lottery-protected in 2009 and 2010,
and will now belong to us, only top-three protected, in the 2011 draft.

So in addition to the two squads listed, Freeland, the 2010 #8 pick, and Dallas’ first-rounder
are all on tap to replace Przy, MarWeb (who gets extended to a two-year deal after 2009,
but is unhappy with his extension salary and Trout & Rudy taking starting spots from him,
so he’s gone after the 10-11 season; we knew this, and the 2010 #8 pick was made to replace him).

Blake is retained but rarely plays; however, he is kept to be groomed for an assistant coach spot.
JJ and Sergio are elsewhere.
McBob is Oden’s roommate, and on the practice squad.
And the Timberwolves are lined up to move to Seattle in 2011-2012, and become the new Sonics.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Jun 9, 2008 8:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey now I'm sad

Minny fans like their team too, I don’t want them to lose their squadron :-: Mortimer :(

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The heck...

I had another line there. What the hey n’ the whoozits?!

Oh well… it wasn’t important… never mind me…

...Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fun.

PG. Someone else
SG. Brandon
SF. Marty
PF. Ellie Mae (nice moniker, Morty)
C. League MVP Grego

6. Travis
7. Rudy
8. Joel
9. Stevie
10. James

We go 8 deep in the playoffs, ten deep in the regular season

Jarrett, Channing and multiple #1s bring us the final piece.

Perfect practice makes perfect.

by Ojala John on Jun 9, 2008 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree with this

though I don’t think LeBron will like being 10th

by chezgrin on Jun 9, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Future Lineup is...

Starters:
PG – Augustin
SG – Roy
SF – Rush
PF – Aldridge
C – Oden

Bench:
PG – Blake
SG – Rudy
SF – Webster
PF – McBob
C – Someone Else

by Stumptown Doug on Jun 9, 2008 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

2010-2011 Lineup

PG: someone else (just don’t see blake as our long term starter. sergio is a change of pace PG, and Jack is too inconsistent…could be Koponen, but i’ve only seen him in a couple of summer league games, so my best guess is its someone else)
SG: Roy (duh)
SF: Webster (4th year for h.s. players typically is the big jump year for them, so webster could be primed for a breakout)
PF: Aldridge (again, kind of a duh)
C: Oden (who else could it be?)

1st G off bench: Fernandez (Roy slides over to the point)
1st F off bench: Outlaw (very two position friendly, especially with Przybilla’s rebounding/shot blocking ability)
backup C: Przybilla

by lefty6283 on Jun 9, 2008 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Nope! This is it!

PG – Sergio
SG – Rudy
SF – Roy
PF – LMA
C – Goden

Super Subs – Outlaw, Pryz, someone else (also Blake)

But what I’d like to see:

PG – Rose (we gave up Rudy, Outlaw and #13 to get him)
SG – Roy
SF – Martel
PF – LMA
C – Goden

Subs: Pryz, Blake, someone else

by TwoDeep on Jun 9, 2008 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Someone else's, take us home!

1st team: Someone else – B Roy – Someone else/Marty (???) – LMA – Oden

2nd team: Someone else – Rudy – Outlaw – Someone else/Frye (???) – Prz

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jun 9, 2008 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

PGs are for suckers!

SG1 Roy
SG2 Rudy
SF Webster
PF Aldridge
C Oden

Bench:
Outlaw
Pryz
Blake or Jack/Sergio/someone else (if Blake leaves after his contract we currently have nobody PROVEN to replace him)

Assistant coach: Sabonis, so he can make sure Oden NEVER goes soft on Shaq…EVER!

by Devenex on Jun 9, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

PG: Someone else
SG: Roy
SF: Someone else
PF: Aldrigde
C: Oden
6: Rudy
7:Outlaw
8: Someone else

by The DL on Jun 9, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

PG. Someone else
SG. Brandon Roy
SF. Martel Webster
PF. Lamarcus Aldridge
C. Greg Oden

6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Travis Outlaw
8. Joel Pryzbilla

by pualo on Jun 9, 2008 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Right on the head, the nail, you hit

You got it buddy. You gave the one true answer to the question.

The only remaining mystery is Who is someone else?

Maybe Koponen, maybe a draftee, maybe a tradee, maybe just plain old Blake (but then he wouldn’t be someone else, would he?).

Winning is everything.

by MT Suit on Jun 9, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since there is no 2nd PG on this list

there will be times when Roy and Rudy together have to cover the point. If you think that works then why not start that way and bring Blake or Jack in off the bench to spell one of them at a time?

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 9, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it “works” but not as good as having a real PG. So it’s OK to do it sometimes, but you don’t want to do it for most of the game. Also, #9 in my list would probably be a PG. Blake, optimally.

by pualo on Jun 10, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

This may be blasphemy, but if we implemented something along the lines of the triangle offense we wouldn’t need a pure point, and it’d make sense to put both rudy and roy in at the same time.

G1 – Roy
G2 – Rudy
SF – Anyone who can hit an open 3 and play decent defense
PF – LMA
C – Oden

First three off the bench are Outlaw, Pryz, and a level headed veteran who can run the offense

by injung on Jun 9, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

PG. Jarrett Jack
SG. Brandon Roy
SF. Martel Webster
PF. Lamarcus Aldridge
C. Greg Oden

6. Rudy Fernandez
7. Travis Outlaw
8. Joel Pryzbilla
9. Steve Blake
10. Channing Frye

Nate will take a page out of Hubie Brown’s book and go with two complete units. It will mean less average minutes all around, but unlike Memphis, Portland will not have Bonzi Wells, James Posey and J-Will sulking and undermining the coach and team with complaints. If there is any team in the league more likely to put team success ahead of personal accolades, it is this team. Name a single guy on that second five that is the type to complain – about minutes or anything else. The only unknown is Rudy and I suspect he’s going to be more interested in earning starter’s minutes than complaining about coming off the bench.

btw – I don’t think we have to wait 3 years. Barring a major injury, I’m shocked if Portland isn’t in the playoffs next year. Having gotten there, I believe they have at least 50 – 50 odds of reaching the next round. Thus, with two rounds of playoff experience and a year to work Greg and Rudy into the mix, Portland is one of the favorites to make the Conference Finals in 2009 -2010.

by timg56 on Jun 9, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Good thought

but Hubie Brown didn’t start that. Our own Jack Ramsey won our championship using two platoons.

Kudos for bucking the trend and using Jack as starter. Jack sacrificed his position last year to give depth to the SG position. Blake was better outside shooter and ran the team better. My point on Jack is Coach Nate is not tipping his hand on plans for next year if Jack remains and so who knows who stays and who goes. It might depend on who is the best player at 13 to determine our needs.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 9, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does it have to be realistic???

1) Chris Paul
2) Brandon Roy
3) Lebron James
4) Lamarcus Aldridge
5) Gergory Oden

1) Rudy Fernandez
2) Travis Outlaw
3) Channing Frye

My bib is soaked….

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jun 9, 2008 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Gak, you just beat me to that list!

Okay, I’ll do the subs:

1) Deron Williams
2) Rudy
3) Travis
4) Chris Bosh
5) Dwight Howard

KP can do ANYTHING!

Talk about fantasy basketball…

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball. --Phil Jackson
If you meet Greg Oden in the lane, drop the ball and run. --MiledAnimal

by MiledAnimal on Jun 9, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

out of everyone you kept Rudy and Outlaw?

The pictures kinda small, but Im giving the C's a big thumbs down

by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 9, 2008 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm...

He kept Roy, Aldridge, and Oden as well. He gave the list of subs. I believe he got rid of Frye, Jack, Sergio, Pryz, Blake, and Martell.

by bleedingblackandred on Jun 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone remember the "not gonna happen" thread?

Roy is not going to be the point guard. He’s not quick enough to guard the likes of chris paul or deron williams. As great as it would be to put Rudy and Roy in the same lineup together, it can’t work, because Roy is a shooting guard.

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jun 9, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

"Reality is for folks who can't handle Blazers Edge." --MiledAnimal

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball. --Phil Jackson
If you meet Greg Oden in the lane, drop the ball and run. --MiledAnimal

by MiledAnimal on Jun 9, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. And we also should consider the possibility

of a near ending existence. ¡Que nos quiten lo bailado!.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jun 9, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

never say never

Mike Barrett seems to think it is possible, he wrote this in his blog:

“Also, since we’ve talked last, Pritchard and his management team returned from their trip to Europe. They did some scouting, watched Rudy Fernandez play, and spent some time with him. Out of respect for Rudy’s current team, which is still playing, you’re not going to hear a lot about him from KP and his staff yet on this situation. I can tell you that they were thrilled with what they saw. The one thing that was said to me, about Rudy, was “we went over there expecting to be impressed, and he’s even better than we thought he was.” In other words, scratch this issue of your list of worries here in the off-season. And, in my opinion, don’t be shocked to see Rudy in the opening-night starting lineup when next season tips off.

http://mikebarrettsblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-home-for-blazers.html

Not only does MB think Rudy can be a starter on this team, he thinks it could happen his very first NBA game. I am skeptical that it would happen that soon, but I believe he is looked at as a potential long term starter by the blazers brass…

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jun 9, 2008 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts

Guard Rotation: Roy, Rudy, The finland kid (I suspect Rudy will come off the bench to spark, but that’ll depend on the game)
SF: Webster
PF/C: Aldridge
C: Oden
6: See guard rotation
7: SF/PF Outlaw (see the guard rotation)
8: someone else

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

in the year 2010, in the year 2010

PG – Roy
SG – Fernandez
SF – Webster
PF – Aldridge
C – Oden

Substitutions:
Outlaw
Przybilla
Jack

pursue everything

by chickenmelt on Jun 9, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

pg-someone else (from this draft)
sg-roy
sf-martell
pf-smooth
c-GO

white unit

pg-sergio
sg-rudy
sf-travis
pf-channing
c-przy

we will trade jack and the #13 to move up
steve blake will leave after sergio has stepped up and the draftee will have taken over the year before

by blackandwite323 on Jun 9, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Dave your drool bib

has me wondering if such a reference was possible PS (pre-son). i am going to really begin to worry when you begin calling our rookies “Diaper Dandies”! Is that creamed spinach I see on your tie?

Annthefan said it first (the likely lineup) and to her go the accolades!

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 9, 2008 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

PG – Someone else
SG – Roy
SF – Webster
PF – Aldridge
C – Oden

1. Outlaw
2. Rudy
3. Pryz
4. Blake
5. PF -Some one else

My guess is that Pritchard will trade for a PG, either a veteran or a draft pick.

by PoliSam on Jun 9, 2008 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

PG: MY BOY…...JOSE CALDERON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SG: B Roy
SF: Marty
PF: LMA
C: G.O.

6. Outlaw
7. Rudy
8. Pryz

YES…Jose Calderon. I highly doubt Colangelo would give him up, but I’m dreaming here. Jose can hit the three (.429%), pass (8.3 AST and 1.5 TO), and make an effort to defend.

There are so many possibilites as far as our PG of the future. Who knows, Sergio and Koppenen are still young….maybe develop into Jose Calderon. I can see a Heinrich or a Ben Gordon coming in, but hey think about this possible analogy:

Bulls championship run: PG = BJ Armstrong, Kerr, Harper
Lakers: PG = Fish, Harper

BIG Names right….our man just might be Blake.

If Rudy develops well, I see him and Outlaw playing the two man game of fthe bench, still managing to play 20-28 high energy and effective minutes per game. (It’s all about matchups for sure though.)

Outlaw as a PF (LMA’s Sub): Don’t worry about size, defense, and individual rebounding. He’ll have Przy or G.O. now, rather than Frye or LMA at the 5. This works the other way around to for LMA. LMA and Outlaw will always be at the 4 with either Pryz or G.O.

Others: Shooters, Shooters, Shooters…...
1. Marty becomes consistent at the 3 like Mr. Jones (has improved every single year by the way)
2. Frye/ Jones (match ups), someone else as the shooter off the bench

by PETRO KID on Jun 9, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

WOW

so yea pretty much validating the current roster, but with more experience under their belts

by PETRO KID on Jun 9, 2008 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

2010-2011

P.G. Koponen, S.G. B.Roy, S.F. M.Webster, P.F. Aldridge, C G.Oden (bench:Rudy,Outlaw,Blake and Pryz) I know I threw four bench players in there, I also like Frye comming off the bench for Aldridge so I still have a Black unit and a white unit. But deep in the playoffs you just might need a few extra players. And during the year when you have blow outs you need extra players to give your starters and some bench players that are used alot some rest.

by billyjoejack on Jun 9, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Mmmk. Drool bib on.

PG – DJ Augustin
SG – Brandon Roy
SF – Marvin Williams
PF – Lamarcus Aldridge
C – The Great Greg Oden
1. Rudy Fernandez
2. Travis Outlaw
3. Joel Przybilla

Would really love to get Augustin in the draft. I know he is a short PG, but he has similar standing reach to Chris Paul and Mike Conley. He is a pure point, and his lack of height would be compensated by the fact that the other seven in the rotation average a ridiculous height. I haven’t computed it, but I’m guessing around 6’8’’ or 6’9’’.

My dream scenario is getting Conley in a trade… but that is highly unlikely at best.

Someone stole my thunder earlier in this post, but Williams would be a great fit. Can you imagine that front line? The Blazers should keep Raef and let his contract expire to pick up Williams. What would he cost, eight or nine million per?

If he caught on with our culture and worked to improve his game… that would make our team flat out scary. Don’t sell the farm, but do whatever it takes to get him in a Blazers uniform.

by bleedingblackandred on Jun 9, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to be different

I’m going to say in 3 years, Aldridge won’t still be here. Write it down.

Oden,
Someone else,
Someone Else,
Rudy
Roy

Webster
Outlaw
Someone Else

by rmcdougall on Jun 9, 2008 9:35 PM PDT reply actions  

We can make this happen. I keep telling myself this

Starters

PG- Tony Parker
SG Roy
SF- Tayshaun Prince
PF- Lamarcus
C- Greg Oden

Bench

Rudy
Martell
Sergio
Outlaw
Pryzbilla

This would be a MONSTER starting 5 and a sick uptempo, suns style white unit that could use LMA as a 5. Detroit and SA will be done and will have cleaned house by 10-11. We want veterans who have experience. Both Prince and Parker are young, but not too young. Both can shoot, pass and play D. Paul Allen’s money never looked so beautiful

(Formerly Jaketron)

by FreeDamon on Jun 9, 2008 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Gotta go with my buddy.

PG – Jack (!)
SG – Roy
SF – Outlaw
PF – Aldridge
C- Oden

G – Fernandez
F – Someone Else
C- Someone Else

Przybilla is too good to be Oden’s backup forever, and will probably get a ton of money from someone.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 9, 2008 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

End of the bench - or in civvies behind it

Sergio (or Kopponen)
Brandon Rush
someone else from this draft
McRoberts
someone else from this draft (hoping Nathan Jawali)

Two favorite former Blazers I’d like to see back – Udoka & Khryapa

by timg56 on Jun 10, 2008 6:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I liked Viktor too

But after he was let go by the Bulls and I put up a fanpost about snagging him, no one liked the idea.

I didn’t want him to be a starter or anything of course, just a bench player who will do all the lil’ things. Oh well. I’m sure he’ll enjoy himself more in Russia, cause c’mon, who wouldn’t? Big boxy grey Soviet era buildings, out of control Mafia and corrupt government officials, and people who think smiling makes you look homosexual. THAT’s how bad Chicago was, that Russia was the better option for Viktor.

Oh well. I hope he is happy out there… somewhere…

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 10, 2008 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

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