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Disclaimer:  I don't care who wins the championship. But as a long-time Sixers fan, perhaps I might be biased against the Celtics.

That being  said, trying to watch these first two games has been an exercise in frustration because a. the officiating is horrible, bordering on the criminal and b. the media hype in favor of the Celtics is so obvious, it's hard to imagine  the NBA doesn't have an agenda. 

Sad really.

My patience for the NBA really gets tested in these situations.

 

/end rant.

 

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this pissed me off as well, i watched Kbe get hacked every time down the court and pick up a technical for nothing and then there are crazy defensive foul calls on the lkers, Ronnie Turiaf’s block was legit

by blackandwite323 on Jun 8, 2008 8:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When bad officiating hurts the l*kers...

I tend to feel ok about it.

Jerry Sloan is a complete and total smeg head.

by GustyJ on Jun 8, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply actions   -2 recs

Exactly.

I hate how horrible the officiating in the L is, but if it doesn’t favor the L*kers, it’s the exception instead of the rule. They deserve it.

Trade Freeland!

by rockingharder on Jun 8, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the point is that it should be fair across the board

If the NBA has an agenda, it won’t matter how good we are, we’ll never win.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh

How did this get a negative rec? Yeah.. not feeling too bad for the LA

by amitp06 on Jun 8, 2008 9:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

How did that happen?!

ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT

by prezofdeath on Jun 8, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now it's at -2

Pretty funny.. can anybody explain? We’ll have an interesting rating system once everybody figures out how to negative rec

by amitp06 on Jun 8, 2008 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was fun

Apparently you just recommend and then unrecommend. After that, you can proceed to unrecommend again to drive it into the negatives. Looks like there are some glitches to fix. Now at -3.

by amitp06 on Jun 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I tried unreccing a top fanpost...it stays up there no matter what

So this really doesn’t amount to anything more than a glitch that’s good for laughs. You can’t dethrone a fanpost, so it really doesn’t do much for you.

ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT

by prezofdeath on Jun 8, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

aawww

It will only let me rec then unrec, once. I cant unrec. Im not cool. Im gona cry now.

"See all the green underlined thingies? All those are over five recs. Then your post down there in the purple--it has 0 recs :( So it doesn’t make it in the "recommended" section." prezofdeath

Celtics over the L*kers, lesser of the 2 evils. But not by much.

by ptwnblzr on Jun 9, 2008 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got to be quick

Click Rec, then Unrecommend about four times as fast as your can in rapid succession. It happens here on Firefox 3 and IE7.

by royroty on Jun 9, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*you can

I type in rapid succession, too. Someone please give my comments a negative rec.

by royroty on Jun 9, 2008 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just did it

till it got over -100!!!

by mark twain on Jun 9, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

-400

I severly unrecommend this post. I couldn’t possibly not recommend it more!

by mark twain on Jun 9, 2008 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which one did you try?

I managed to dethrone one, but it took a while for the top fanpost sidebar to update.

by royroty on Jun 9, 2008 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I don’t want to say because the member’s name is right next to mine and he might get angry if he knew I dethroned his post

ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT

by prezofdeath on Jun 9, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you jerk!

It was mine wasn’t it!!!! Oh, payback is coming

by mark twain on Jun 9, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work

You guys have uncovered a bug. We’re working on a fix now which will prevent this behavior in the future. In the meantime, please do us a favor and stop. The repeated negative rec’ing is a drain on the servers and is creating bad data that we’re going to have to clean up. Thanks.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Jun 9, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   -2 recs

oops!

well I consider myself a hero in a small way. I will stop now, but it was funny!

by mark twain on Jun 9, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh, someone just gave your message a negative rec. If we then recommend it so that its rec total is 0, does that remove that bad data?

Is there some reason you’re even using signed values for the number of recommendations? Normally your database should be sanity-checking the values it gets and rejecting really ridiculous numbers.

I think whoever discovered this found it by accident.

by royroty on Jun 9, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

You should set it so any user can either Recommemd (+1), Unrecommend (0, same as now) or Derecommend (-1) so we can “mod down” bad or redundant posts like on Slashdot. If you could just change your blog software so that it allows negative values but only allow one derecommendation per user that would be great. This would be for posts that are just idiotic, but not problematic, offensive, or spamish enough to flag.

by royroty on Jun 10, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm confused

I unrecommended this post because , I think it stinks, why is anyone complainging that that fakers arent getting calls? (I obviously want them to lose)
If I agreed with Zuul, I would’ve recommended it, right? Since I don’t agree I unrecommend, right?
Someone please explain? Or I’ve got some recommending to do!

by bustabucket on Jun 8, 2008 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because

the reffing should be clean and fair across the board, not just when it’s a team we don’t like. That means the game is rigged and that’s not good if you’re a fan of the game of basketball.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I guess i was seeing his post as him being upset about the fakers allegedly are not getting calls, instead of the overall state of reffing in the game of basketball. We all know that the fakers get enough of the calls, support, attention, love from the NBA. Hello, how many steps did that faker get last night to bring the game even closer? Could it be any more obvious?
The reffing should be fair, but it’s the NBA, I don’t ever expect it to fair, anymore. I expect it to be what will help them make the most money. It’s sad but true. This game will never be fair.
I just find it strange that blazers fans are so upset that the fakers allegedly aren’t getting calls. It’s just not true.

by bustabucket on Jun 9, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When radmanivich made that steal...

He took four steps and dunked it. Even Mark Jackson called the refs out on it. I’ve never seen a more obvious case of traveling in my life!
It seems like the NBA doesn’t call traveling anymore. Watch Tim Duncan whenever he gets the ball on the elbow or in the post. The guy has terrible footwork and takes two steps before he even dribbles…EVERY TIME!

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Jun 8, 2008 9:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

okay, but i felt that was

kind of similar to a soccer posession. He clearly was going to dunk it, nobody else was any where near him, the act of travelling didn’t help him. Its kind of like in soccer where the guy is bringing the ball up along the line by himself, and if it accidentally rolls towards the line, they usually don’t call it, just because it would just be kind of stupid. Oh and Turiaf’s block was awesome.

Yesterday Kuniva tried to pull a knife on me
Cause I told him Jessica Alba's my wife to be

by TheOdenator on Jun 9, 2008 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw one that was worse.

In the Cavs-Celtics series, Lebron stripped Pierce near midcourt, took one dribble, and took – I’m not exaggerating – five steps before dunking it.

It’s not right, but I don’t get too worked up over it because they are fairly consistent in not calling traveling on breakaways. It’s like they would prefer to see that instead of seeing the players take the extra dribble(s), slow down and gather themselves, and then have a sprinting defender catch to them and have one of those horrid, Rambis/McHale-type collisions.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jun 11, 2008 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

effed up

10 fta for LA to 38 fta for BST. RETARDED, ridiculous, stupid, effed up. Sorry but I HATE BOSTON, and I think this game couldn’t have been handed to them any more obviously.

by mark twain on Jun 8, 2008 9:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

PART of that

was the fact that the boston defense shut down the lakers and forced outside shots.

Part of that was due to the refs in the first half.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inconsistent Officiating

Watch the 4th quarter and the refs swallowed the whistle for both sides unlike the 1st half when Boston seems to get every single call and the Lakers couldn’t buy one. 19 FT – 2 FT (one of the FT coming from a tech) disparity in the 1st Half is pretty egregious.

Phil Jackson called out the officiating in post game. Likely fine coming, Stern still believes nothing is wrong. It would just be nice if they call the game consistently.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Jun 8, 2008 9:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m sure when it goes back to l.a. it will be the exact opposite… and most of the calls will go l.a.’s way

radmanovic packed a suitcase and walked a mile on his dunk…

i don’t think it’s just this series… i think it’s a league wide problem… and takes away from the game overall… it’s obvious who the “favorites” in the league are… and home court advantage has taken on a new meaning b/c of poor officiating…

consistent and honest refereeing is what i’d like to see… especially when the refs calls have so much influence over the outcome of a game… more so than in most sports.

also… as a side note… it’s hard to believe the tim donaghy case is an isolated incident despite the protestations to the contrary by mr. stern.

by zuul on Jun 8, 2008 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

on pretty much all accounts.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The refs were influenced by the ghost of Red Auerbach...

I didn’t see anything unusual compared to a typical NBA game. The replays of Kobe’s fouls on Ray Allen, for example, were legit.

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball. --Phil Jackson
If you meet Greg Oden in the lane, drop the ball and run. --MiledAnimal

by MiledAnimal on Jun 8, 2008 9:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm sorry

but there is not a single reason with the level of play at this point in the season that one team only gets 10 free throws while the other gets 38. That is RETARDED

by mark twain on Jun 8, 2008 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a big difference, sure

But it’s not unusual at all for foul calls to be lopsided against one team. Maybe one of our stat geeks can look into this for us.

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball. --Phil Jackson
If you meet Greg Oden in the lane, drop the ball and run. --MiledAnimal

by MiledAnimal on Jun 9, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

apart from attacking the outside a lot

you’re right.

The lakers attacked from the outside, but there WAS a huge absence of good calls in the first half.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you mean

they were legit as in they normally would have been called, or that they were fouls? Oh and Kobe’s second foul where he tried to juke past Pierce’s moving screen was a ridiculous call. I hate the Lakers, but c’mon I want them to lose, I don’t want these games to be stolen from them.

Yesterday Kuniva tried to pull a knife on me
Cause I told him Jessica Alba's my wife to be

by TheOdenator on Jun 9, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Legit as they normally would be called in an NBA game.

Kobe’s second foul was when he elbowed Allen. That was legit. His third fould was when he crashed into Pierce like a bowling ball into a tenpin.

Full disclosure: I heard on the local sports talk show this morning that Robert Parish agreed that the Lakers were getting stiffed, but he’s fine with it.

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball. --Phil Jackson
If you meet Greg Oden in the lane, drop the ball and run. --MiledAnimal

by MiledAnimal on Jun 9, 2008 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, i had forgotten about that one.

post players make that move almost every time down the court. I mean maybe its just because it was against a much smaller player in Allen, but I really did feel as if there were a lot of really small fouls called against the Lakers, and Boston just wasn’t being hit with those little fouls that didn’t mean anything.

Yesterday Kuniva tried to pull a knife on me
Cause I told him Jessica Alba's my wife to be

by TheOdenator on Jun 9, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's the thing it's not usually bad calls

because most of the time the ref’s call legit fouls, etc. What irks me and probably most people is the inconsistency.

Leaving this blank 'til I think of something funny

by Zaron5551 on Jun 8, 2008 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and it was very lopsided

yes. be consistent. Be fair. that’s all i ask. then get out of the way and let the best team win.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lakers didn't lose

because of officiating. They got outplayed, period. Celtics took the ball to the hoop consistently, Lakers didn’t. Lakers looked awful all game long, except when they made their run at the end—too little, too late. They just got outplayed.

by BrailleTaser on Jun 8, 2008 11:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes and no

the Celtics very likely would have beaten the lakers no matter what. I saw bad fouls called against the lakers and then the same action did not draw a celtic foul. This CHANGED the momentum of the game and took Kobe out.

That said, the Celtics were HUNGRY and like an 800 pound man who’s gone a week without eating at an all you can eat buffet.

The game should still be fair, and it was clearly biased.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched a lot of NBA shinnigans over the years but I watched this game and though there were a couple of bad calls the reffing was consistant. Sometimes one team makes more fouls than another team. It isn’t like the number of fouls is supposed to be equal.

The NBA doesn’t care who wins this series. They just want it to go seven.

by Blazersaurus on Jun 9, 2008 12:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Every foul against the Lakers is a good call.

—2002 Sacramento Kings

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball. --Phil Jackson
If you meet Greg Oden in the lane, drop the ball and run. --MiledAnimal

by MiledAnimal on Jun 9, 2008 10:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sac town has a lot to

talk about now. Have you been to any of their boards now that the whole Tim Dougnahay thing has gotten out. It’s like re-opening a wound and pouring salt in it. They got JOBED in that series.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Jun 12, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cry me a river

Kobe and the Lakers get more calls that just about anybody.

by JasonT on Jun 9, 2008 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   -2 recs

JasonT

heck yes they do. It’s ridiculous. I swear Brandon get SMASHED every time he goes into the lane. You know he gets fouled but he seriously has to be stabbed in the neck to get the foul called. Kobe, meanwhile, gets a drop of the defenders sweat on him and he get 2 freethrows. If anyone here says the officiating isn’t biased and there is no favoritism they are RETARTED. It’s plain as day. However, there will come a time when our stars will get the benefit of this bias.

The tim Donoughe (sp?) is not an issolated incident, more crap like that is gonna come out. I think it’s difficult to be consistent. The reason the Lakers lost was b/c they got out played..period. And when the other team is going hard, they are gonna get the benefit of the refs.

How much we wanna bet that the Lakers are gonna have the FT adv. when they go home 2 LA? MM? NE takers?

That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic

by BlazerFan1 on Jun 9, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the point of many

is that the bias was on CLEAR display, and it needs to stop. Let the best team win, and that doesn’t happen when the refs destroy rhythm and put your super stars in foul trouble.

I complained when the lakers got those calls, and now I’m complaining when another team received them in the first half. An eye for an eye isn’t the answer. The answer is to just STOP that crud.

"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned

by ratbastird on Jun 9, 2008 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's no biggy

What’s the point in having a seven game series, if it can be finished in four or five games? The playoffs might as well switch to three game series.

"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow

by tominhawaii on Jun 9, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So this is the post that marktwain spend 20 minutes getting to -400 recs

So at some point will the counter flip back over and all of a sudden have +140000 recs and become a permanent fixture of the recommended fan post section?

by tingeyga on Jun 10, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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