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Very interesting (RE: Westbrook)

I know a lot of people on here love Russell Westbrook because we need a defensive stopper at PG.  Problem is, we already have one, according to DraftExpress:

 


What makes Jarrett Jack stand out a bit in this excellent class of PG's in this draft is his defense. He is probably the best defensive PG in this draft along with Aaron Miles, but has more potential at the NBA level with this skill because of his excellent size and body. His footwork is absolutely fantastic and he never takes off a possession. He'll get right in the grill of his opponent and won't give him an inch. He is very physical and always plays the game with a lot of intensity, not having any problem getting scrappy or taking the charge. He has good anticipation skills and excellent hands, which makes him a constant threat in the passing lanes. He will not risk his defensive position to come up with the steal like other PG's in this draft who average a little higher in the steals category. He's also a very good rebounder for a PG, averaging 5.5 for the season. Georgia Tech is the best defensive team in the ACC and Jack is a huge part of that.               

 

Just goes to show that just because someone is a big-time defensive player in college doesn't mean he will be able to hang with the big boys.

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Haha

Westbrook is scary like that…....

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by iDea on Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Or that just because you are working for ESPN

does not automatically qualify you or your opinions as correct.

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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM PDT   0 recs

I meant Draft Express

which is even more understandeable. I disagree w/ tons of stuff they produce

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by BlazerFan1 on Jun 5, 2008 4:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hubie Brown? Is that you?

The double negative lured me in, but the “upside” reference confirmed it for me. I love the work you do as a TV analyst, sir.

by BlazersOrBust on Jun 5, 2008 4:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree Hubie

I think Jack will only get better. Is he a true PG? Probably not. And he might never be quick enough to guard the quick guards of the NBA. But he will get SMARTER with time and experience, and his positives far outweigh his current negatives.

I like Jack, and he helped won us more games than we deserved with his toughness and heart.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We're not even talking about getting a true PG to run with Roy anyways.

I think a more consistent Jack may be exactly what we are looking for in a point guard. But the grass is always greener, and nearly every trade proposal sends him out as if he were the wrapper on a Hostess bakery product. It’s too soon to give up a player who was as vital part of our team last year as anyone outside of Roy and Aldridge.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 6, 2008 5:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm a big Steve Blake fan

but I can’t help thinking that Portland’s eventual starting lineup is going to have Jack at PG.

by timg56 on Jun 6, 2008 7:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kudos, sir

That is a bold prediction. As one who always roots for the underdog, I’m hoping JJ will make big strides this year and prove you right.

by Corvid on Jun 6, 2008 10:34 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He definitely could

With Greg we get a reliable low post scorer, and when Jack is on a team with a strong low post presence he plays a lot better.

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by TheOdenator on Jun 6, 2008 10:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Will Jack have room to play?

Here is the question: Will Jack have room to play this year with Rudy comming over? Jack got some minutes this year playing in a 3 gaurd line up- That wont happen next year with Rudy getting some of those minutes. When we need to calm down and run plays Nate will play Blake. It’s going to be hard to see a line up of PG-Jack SG-Roy and SF-Rudy on the floor at the same time. Alot of this will depend on what Jack works on this summer. If he could cut the TO’s and become that lock down defender we need, it would be intresting.

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by The Earl of Dunk on Jun 7, 2008 10:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jack has to beat out Blake for that spot.

If he can’t, he can’t.

If he can, I say look out. Jack was the heart and soul of our second unit along with Outlaw. He made it go. If he wins the stating spot back from Blake, then our three guard rotation will be incredibly difficult to stop. On top of that, who is going to guard our front line?

I think Jack can win the spot. And if he can, he’s exactly what we have been looking for.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 7, 2008 8:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He won it last season

I ‘spect he’ll do it ‘gin.

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by BlueBooYay on Jun 7, 2008 8:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it's safe to say

“Just goes to show that just because someone is [insert anything you like] in college doesn’t mean he will be able to hang with the big boys.”

by Junior Del Norte on Jun 5, 2008 5:18 PM PDT   0 recs

I was watching parts of the 2006 NBA Draft earlier today

And I love Dick Vitale, but he said something to the effect of

Tyrus Thomas and Randy Foye are going to be the best players of this draft baby!

He went on to essentially guarantee that Foye would be as good as Dwayne Wade.

We don’t even have to mention how wrong Stephen A. Smith has been about the Blazers in the past…

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by prezofdeath on Jun 5, 2008 5:20 PM PDT   0 recs

Vitale likes to be wrong all the time

I remember someone was pointing out how Vitale predicted David West would be good, and now lookie he’s good whatta ya know, but Vitale likes to claim nearly every good college player will take over the league and make the HoF after their 3rd season.

JJ Reddick, Adam Morrison, everyone is amazing and awesome. I like his exhuberence but scoff at his predicting abilities.

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by Mortimer on Jun 5, 2008 5:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Vitale is a travesty

IMO of course. Obviously some folks like him. I can’t watch a game he’s broadcasting and so I haven’t watched a lot of college hoop since 86. (Oregon Ducks being the exception)

by Blazersaurus on Jun 5, 2008 10:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm definitely not a fan of Vitale the anouncer

But I do have to respect the guy for his passion for the college game. It feels like the reason he makes all those stupid predictions (Morrison, Reddick, etc.) is because he feels defensive about them, like they’re his kids and he needs to protect them.

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by nightbluefruit on Jun 6, 2008 12:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I resemble that remark.

At least I can empathize. It’s possible that Bedgers may have noticed I have a tiny tendancy to jump to Travis’s defense at what some may consider the drop of a hat.

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by annthefan on Jun 6, 2008 7:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with that

It’s why I can’t be angry or really annoyed with him like I am at Chris Sheridan or Jon Barry. Vitale just feels like he has to pump up all the NCAA kids of the world.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 6, 2008 9:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Foye has been injured

just like wade. I be he’s doing it in reverse and next year will come in and kill. It’s still too early to tell with Foye and he needs a healthy season.

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by ratbastird on Jun 6, 2008 7:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Foye ain't bad

Not bad at all, and he could maybe score 20 ppg if he was the only scorer. But, he won’t be anywhere close to the best player in the ‘06 draft. He’s a good scoring undersized shooting guard, and I had him on my fantasy team because I know he’d put up decent numbers. A healthy season will help him a lot, but he’ll always be hampered by his size and role.

He’s good, but not THAT good. He won’t likely leapfrog Gay, Roy, LMA, Rondo, etc. He isn’t explosive or really athletic like Wade is, so even though they are about the same height they aren’t similar players.

For an undersized shooting guard, Foye has a more all-round game than his peers such as Ben Gordon or Juan Dixon. He can rebound, he gets assists. He’ll be a good player for Minny, just not up to Brandon Roy (who, unfortunately, he’ll always be compared to).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 6, 2008 9:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Westbrook is WAY more ATHLETIC

than Jack.

Speed: Westbrook > Jack
Quickness: Westbrook > Jack
Vertical Jumping: Westbrook > Jack
Shooting: Westbrook = Jack
Ballhandling: Westbrook = Jack

Overall, I’d say Westbrook has more to work with than Jack.

by JasonT on Jun 5, 2008 5:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Vertical Jumping (or Vertical Leap)

They always test for this. Wouldn’t it be funny if they started testing a player Horizontal Leap.

Scout: “KP ….draft this guy he has a Horizontal Leap of 11’ 9.5”!!!

KP: “Yeh but that is an inflated stat….they let him wear a cape”

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by 92wastheyear on Jun 5, 2008 7:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

long jump?

?

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 5, 2008 10:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Running Long Jump or Standing Long Jump?

11’ 9.5” is really good for one and really bad for the other

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by Magnum on Jun 5, 2008 11:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was thinking more along the lines

of a dude jumping onto a slip n’ slide.

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by 92wastheyear on Jun 6, 2008 6:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Reality

............Quickness…...........Speed…....No Step Vert…Max Vert
............Lane Agility…...3/4 Court Sprint
West:.... 10.98 .................. 3.08......................30.0….....36.5
Jack:..... 10.87................... 3.24…...................NA….......28.0

by spencerbutte on Jun 5, 2008 7:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jack's owie ankle

I assume those were Orlando pre-draft measurements for Jarrett in ‘06? Remember JJ had a bum ankle coming out of college.

Still, I never want to see Jack leave his feet and throw another pass (turnover) in a Blazer’s uniform. Let some other team’s GM with “manlove” for JJ take him on

by two4larue on Jun 6, 2008 2:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Athletic ≠ Better

I don’t remember who said it, but it was something along the lines of “if there was some problem that jumping out of the building could solve, Tyrus Thomas could solve it.” Athleticism is a good thing, but it alone does not make a good basketball player. Jack is a better shooter from range, a better shooter at the line, is better at taking the ball to the basket, better at distributing and we already have him. Why give up Jack and the #13 for a less experienced version of Jack? Potential? Really?

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by T Darkstar on Jun 6, 2008 5:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wondered the same for a while

The grass is always greener and even with Rudy, I would say caution is something the Blazers can afford to exhibit right now when it comes to trades and clearing house for minutes for Rudy and the 13th pick. I’m thinking our moves come closer to February if they come at all.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jun 6, 2008 6:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You guys need to start picking on someone other than Ty Thomas.

That kid is going to be a beast in two years. If Collins knows how to use him.

by howlingfantods on Jun 6, 2008 12:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, but he's the only guy I know who's biggest positive is athleticism.

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"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on Jun 6, 2008 2:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OIC. Maybe use hakim warrick?

Or no, Gerald Green is perfect. Freak athlete, actual basketball skills like shooting and finishing, can’t play ball for crap.

by howlingfantods on Jun 6, 2008 3:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes Thomas will be a beast

but now more of a beastie?

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 7, 2008 11:43 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Because

he can’t run the break.

by TwoDeep on Jun 9, 2008 10:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think this description is really that far off

It doesn’t say he is a quick man-to man defender who gets lots of steals. It says he is excellent at position defense and does not get as many steals as other guards.

His problem is guarding man-to-man against other point guards. He is still a good defender in the zone and he knows his weakness in man-to-man and always sends his man where he has help. Sometimes the help isn’t there and he looks like he got burned and everyone faults Jack. He also gets beat just like every other defender in the NBA does.

Name a few PGs who play man-to man and are able to shut down the opposing PG? Nash? Baron Davis? Tony Parker? Chris Paul? Deron Williams?

When an elite PG gets shut down it is because an entire team is playing good defense and Jack is an excellent team defender. As the Blazers get Oden, LMA, and Pryzbilla going in a good rotation, if Jack is still on the team, you will see him guiding his man to the baseline where he will have to stop and rotate the ball back out because there will be no where to go.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jun 5, 2008 10:48 PM PDT   0 recs

I agree with that

No matter who our PG is, we need to defend as a team to stop the ultra-quick PGs from hurting us. Oden and LMA are quick and long and mean and lean, and will help make our perimeter defense look a lot better.

You need a guy who can defend a little, and always tries to defend, but effort is a lot of it and knowing how to position yourself and knowing WHO you are defending (as in, don’t let Manu go left—they always let him go left it seems, when everyone knows he’s a leftie) is more important than sheer quickness. If we all know what to do and where to be, the Earl Watsons of the world won’t destroy us anymore.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 6, 2008 12:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well said and completely right

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 7, 2008 11:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think this warrants a longer discussion.

So I Rec’d it.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 6, 2008 6:45 AM PDT   0 recs

Against my better judgement...

I recommended too. We will see were it goes from here.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jun 6, 2008 6:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This may have been addressed earlier somewhere but

what were Terry Porter’s stats after year 3? What were his “intangibles”? I would hate to trade Jarrett just to find out that he’s actually Terry Porter.

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by annthefan on Jun 6, 2008 7:30 AM PDT   0 recs

You speak heresy

Not sure if you’r overrating Jack or underrating Porter… if long-retired Terry Porter put on his gym shoes now, he’d still run a team better than Jarett Jack.

by LMA on Jun 6, 2008 9:06 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Neither. It's just that they have such similar body types and I want JJ1 to play like TP.

If they ever made a movie about TP, JJ1 could be his body double.

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by annthefan on Jun 6, 2008 7:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Terry' stats

linky

He was Monsta

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by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 6, 2008 9:37 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Third year Porter

15 points and 10 assists on 52% shooting. 18.1 PER.

He was quite a bit better than Jack.

by ilserpente on Jun 6, 2008 10:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He was also on a better team

wasn’t he?

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by ratbastird on Jun 6, 2008 7:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

TP's PTB Team...

...had more Experience.

Terry developed sooner, into The Startin’ PG his scond year and continued for five mo’

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by BlueBooYay on Jun 6, 2008 8:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Comparing eras with Jack and Porter

TP was better than JJ in their respective third seasons so I am not trying to argue against that. But for the sake of discusion, the game has changed quite a bit since the late 80s early 90s. The game was much more up and down and there were many more scoring opportunities. Thus 15 pts and 10 assists may not have been as hard to come by in TPs era. Just something to think about when comparing stats from different eras.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jun 7, 2008 4:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"TP *STATISTICS* was better than JJ in their respective third seasons"

If they could switch places,,, stats would most likely be different.

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by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 7, 2008 7:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This is why I included PER

PER takes into account the pace of the game. True Porter played on a faster paced team, but he still did more on a per-possession basis. For comparison, Jack posted a PER of 13.06 last season. The difference between a PER of 13 and 18 is the difference between your run of the mill bench guy, and a core team member.

by ilserpente on Jun 9, 2008 2:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ask and it will be given

Terry Porter (Drafted #24 1st round) in 3rd year 1987-1988:

Minutes: 36.5
Points: 14.9
Assists: 10.1
FG%: 51.9%
3FG%: 34.8%
Steals: 1.8
Turnovers: 3.0

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on Jun 7, 2008 11:52 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm recommending it because

I find it extremely encouraging seeing BE ’ ers with the strength to withstand the lure of greener grass and unseen birds flitting through the bushes.

by timg56 on Jun 6, 2008 8:02 AM PDT   0 recs

"His footwork is absolutely fantastic"

Not the words that come to mind when I think of Jack. I’ve often wondered if his ankle injury hampered his development and still bothers him more than he lets on. Didn’t I read that he’s doing more rehab on it this summer?

by Corvid on Jun 6, 2008 10:40 AM PDT   0 recs

I'm still leaning towards Jack

I can’t find a picture of Westbrooks butt to compare it to Jacks. I found a photo of one of his hairdos that would look good in a Blazer’s uniform.

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by tominhawaii on Jun 6, 2008 2:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Keep the haircut

Lose the Jack. Westbrook would look great with those styles.

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by 12sharks on Jun 6, 2008 7:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Even if Jack (07-08) > Westbrook (08-09), I'm in favor of Westbrook

It’s pretty clear that many are in favor of moving Jack (3000 voted him to go!). Hopefully, Rodriguez can fill that role of someone able to drive aggressively to the hoop that Jack did well for the Blazers.

I think Jack’s turnovers are overblown, but I’m also in the camp of moving him. If the Blazer’s don’t they’ll have to resign him for at least a $4-$5 million contract or let him go for absolutely nothing. For continuity, Blake should play and Sergio has his roster slot sewn up with Fernandez coming over. I see Westbrook as the perfect 3rd string PG because he is still raw and won’t demand the PT that a more polished PG might.

by Mad Matt the Road Warrior on Jun 6, 2008 4:17 PM PDT   0 recs

I've never understood the aversion to Jack by some fans

I get frustrated by some of his turnovers at times, but I saw improvement in that area over the last twenty or so games last year. I don’t remember him stepping on the sideline the last couple months of the season and people still bring that up as a reason to trade him. I have always thought his strengths outweighed his weaknesses.

Your reasoning makes sense to me though. He has been an inexpensive option for the Blazers for what he brings. If he wants $4-5 million he will have to have a stellar year and that will be difficult with Blake and Rudy on the team. He will have to beat out Blake at PG to stay beyond this season.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jun 7, 2008 9:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Most teams have borderline players...

they shop with the intent to upgrade. In Portland we fall in love and dream up scenarios in which x player will be good.

JJ just isn’t that good. Nothing personal. Not so good.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jun 9, 2008 10:15 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Errr for evidence I give you Darius Miles

I guarantee you there are people on this very site who will argue that we made a mistake releasing Miles, that despite scads of evidence to the contrary Miles is our answer at SF.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jun 9, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You had me with the first one...

...but Miles? Like, people would argue NOW that releasing him was a mistake? Where are you imagining this argument appearing? It certainly isn’t happening on a Blazers website.

I think the love of borderline players happens on every NBA team. I like Jack, think he has obvious flaws, and aside from the fastbreak most can be fixed with time. Doesn’t mean it will be fixed. I think you’re exaggerating a bit with his value and worth for the Blazers or someone else. He could start for quite a few teams at PG.

The GOOD stuff he brings (heart, leadership, work ethic, FTs, penetration) are things we are spoiled with on the Blazers, and other teams CRAVE.

I get not thinking he has a home on the Blazers (if he doesn’t improve, he certainly doesn’t), but to disregard him is just silly.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 9, 2008 10:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Remember Jack's ankle

We’ve probably never seen Jack play D like he did in college because of his ankle injury. And we probably never will. I read that Jarrett was going to receive more treatment on the ankle this offseason. Here’s hoping that helps.

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by hurryup09 on Jun 6, 2008 8:17 PM PDT   0 recs

Jack's not so bad

I think what makes it so appealing to trade Jack is that he does have value as a big gaurd. I think that JJ’s stats and promis match up more with Billups than Terry Porter. All three with very sinular size and game. Is jack going to be as good as either? NO! but it’s a noce option to have on our team for cheap.

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by The Earl of Dunk on Jun 7, 2008 10:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm a JJ fan, but ...

I like JJ for his strength, determination to get to the basket, leadership, coachability
and high FT . I get frustrated with some of the stupid turnovers, holding up the break
and poor perimeter defense.
I do think JJ is a good defender on the bigger bodied PG’s, ala Deron, Kidd x%x Baron.
He bodies up well, he just isn’t quick enough with the slashers like Paul, Parker, Nate
Robinson and even the Ridenour’s of the NBA. Perhaps he will be better with GO
protecting the basket, but I believe that Westbrook has the speed, quickness and
length to become a very good defender on most PG’s (& 2’s), as well as playing in the
passing lanes and leaking out after defending the long jumper. Plus according to
all reports he has a tremendous work ethic and great potential. Ball handling and improving your shooting can come with hard work. Practice, Practice, Practice !

KP (Morty) – Please get Russell Westbrook in this draft and make your moves next
summer.

DOWN WITH COINCAST !            BRING BACK OUR BLAZERS !!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jun 7, 2008 1:28 PM PDT   0 recs

I hate to admit it but

I totally dislike Jack. He was supposed to be our defensive perimeter guy and he can’t guard an old lady. Apparently he worked the hardest last summer and yet he had a worse year then the one before. I appreciate his dedication and all but if he has reached his limit and can’t get any better then what’s the use in keeping him. He might do better with another team.He’s slow and does not have a high b-ball IQ, so let’s go another way with Westbrook. He’s much faster and more athletic which we need at the PG posistion. SO BYE BYE JACK! I hope anyway

by VinnyB on Jun 8, 2008 7:14 AM PDT   0 recs

I can tell you dislike Jack. Some responses:

His defense really isn’t bad. The problem is, when he directed guards to where he was supposed to, the lack of interior defense never backed him up as they were supposed to. If Oden lives up to his (ugh) potential, and Przybilla gives our bench a physical presence, Jack’s defense is going to look much better, even though he’s been doing what he’s supposed to all along.

I don’t think he had a worse year than the last, rather our expectations were higher than his ability. I’m sure stats don’t necessarily bear this out, but the game is more than stats, and Jack did get c