Who We're Looking At
Or, for you grammarians, "At Whom We Are Looking".
After a couple weeks of digesting expert opinions, mock draft opinions, your opinions, and even my cats’ opinions (“Meow-meow we wike Westbwook meow meow. Now feed us!”), then after a couple more conversations with people who should know (don’t worry…nobody from the team), I feel prepared to give a preliminary assessment of the likeliest candidates to be selected should we choose to use the 13th pick. I’m not even tackling the possibilities of trading up or out yet, that’s another conversation. The issue here is how we might use our pick as-is and the rationale behind that use.
If you were listening to the always-excellent Overtime show with Gavin Dawson on 95.5 The Game last week you heard me say that I don’t believe the Blazers will go after a point guard at 13. There are two reasons. First, we’ve burned a first-round selection on a point guard four years straight: Koponen in 2007, Sergio in 2006, Jack in 2005, Sebastian Telfair in 2004. The jury is still out on the three recent picks but judging by the results so far we still have not found our starting quarterback. At some point you have to try a different approach. Second, any point guard you’re going to get at 13 is going to be a compromise. In a sense we already have three compromise candidates at that position, which is the argument for looking for another point guard in the first place. This will be a position where the team doesn’t want to compromise anymore…or at least doesn’t want to compromise young. We may not get the perfect guy in a trade or free agency but at least a veteran knows how to cover for his weaknesses and still make the team run. Not so a rookie, who likely doesn’t even realize the magnitude of his flaws, let alone how to play through them. Unless you’re completely blown away by a guy left on the board or you’re firmly committed to taking the most talented player available and a point guard is head and shoulders above the rest, it just doesn’t make sense for the Blazers to go this route again.
Slightly more probable, but still against conventional wisdom, would be a center pick. Part of this is team need. Greg Oden will obviously be your future starter. Right now we have Joel Przybilla, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Channing Frye as candidates to play backup five. You’ll probably move at least one of those guys, but not all of them. That means there won’t be much room to play. This slights the argument for picking a big guy, developing him, then trading him later for value. How much value will he have if he never sees the court? Plus a 7-footer, rare in this draft, will be an even bigger project at 13 than a point guard would be. The Blazers are starting to shift out of waiting mode and into winning mode. It just doesn’t feel like our (hopefully) last lottery pick for the next decade would be a coin-flip project.
That leaves the wing slots--shooting guard and small forward--plus power forward. Not coincidentally, these are also the positions likely to have enough talent left at 13 to appeal to us. Some good players will be selected before we get our turn, but they can’t take them all. The best players left will almost certainly range from 6’6” to 6’10” and play one of these positions.
Casey Holdahl’s posting of the Blazer workout schedule pretty much confirms this impression. Of the first-round names in there all but a couple point guards are in this range.
So who are the specific guys who could show up on stage wearing our cap? Here are seven names for you. Keep in mind that we’re not going to find the perfect, all-around guy at 13. If they were that obviously good and had no weaknesses they’d go earlier. These guys are either talented, potentially great, or have enough good points that we’d take a flyer on them but not so obvious that someone else will automatically grab them before us. Also keep in mind that I’m not necessarily saying we should pick these guys or trying to make this list all-encompassing. There will be players left out. I’m just guessing you’ll hear these names connected with the Blazers before it’s all said and done.
The Top Two So Far:
Brandon Rush Kansas 6’7” (?), 211 lbs (?) SG
It’s obvious, but this just feels like a KP pick (and sometimes obvious is right). He’s a shooter, has some athleticism, is tall, has long arms, and plays defense…uncommon among most of the scorers we’re looking at. Plus he has the dual attraction of being from
Joe Alexander
The guys sounds almost like a second coming of Travis Outlaw. He can jump out of the gym and dunk with authority and grace. He’s supposedly an extremely hard worker and would probably fit with the team culture. He’s raw and would take a while to develop though. Also his individual scoring skills may not be up to NBA standards.
Three Other Players We Could Likely Get:
After those two you’ll probably hear a lot of forward and tweener-forward names, such as:
Donte Green
He can score and he’ll probably develop an NBA body but he’s a tweener and a project.
Darrell Arthur Kansas 6’7.5”, 216 lbs F
Another
Nicolas Batum
He’s reportedly a big, athletic slasher who can defend a little. His intensity, consistency, rebounding, and ball-handling are in question as well as his overall scoring ability. If he turns out to have stellar workouts he could go above us because his physical tools should dazzle. Otherwise we might be able to work on him.
Two Guys We’ll Look At But Who Could Well Go Before 13:
D.J. Augustin
He’s an offensive powerhouse: scoring, shooting, running, passing. But he’s small, will likely have trouble defending in the NBA, and as we said above…ANOTHER point guard???
Russell Westbrook UCLA 6’2”+ , 192 lbs PG/SG
You’ve already heard his name. He’s explosive. He can defend and run. He could be a combo guard. Several sites have reported his relative awkwardness in the halfcourt. He may not turn out to be a natural point guard and he won’t be able to play shooting guard exclusively. This is another one of those cases where if he’s really that impressive he’ll probably go earlier than 13.
You have to figure six guys as locks to go off the board before we pick: Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Lopez, Bayless, and Gallinari. That means even if these seven were the most attractive players left (and they’re almost certainly not) we would be able to pick one of them. Most likely we’ll be able to choose from at least three.
Naturally this list could (and probably will) change as the weeks and the workouts progress.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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If Portland keeps the pick, it'll be with another trade in mind
I’m not saying that Pryzbilla or Frye are traded soon. I just think that this gives the Blazers another great high post threat and a possible replacement for Joel or Frye. Later in the season, Joel or Frye could then be trade bait to use with LaFrentz at the trading deadline.
If Koufos goes back to school, I believe that he’d be a much higher pick next year. He really came on at the end of the season.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kosta-Koufos-1070/
Yahoo had a mcok draft
up a week ago that should Westbrook falling to the Blazers at 13. This week they had a “revised” mock draft which doesn’t show westbrook in the first round at all. That just has to be a dumb mistake, right?
Yeah, I'm starting to think
BRush more and more. I really can’t see KP drafting a project like Alexander. Westbrook is a bit of a project too.
I also kind of half like the idea of getting Hibbert as a 15-20 minute bench guy, although one usually doesn’t draft a guy at #13 expecting a bench player. But Hibbert’s good!* He battled Oden to a draw in the final four last year, and he’s huuuuge, 7’2 with a 7’6’ish wingspan! He’s skilled, agile, and has a great work ethic! it’s crazy that he’s in the late teens/twenties in mock drafts!
*disclaimer—The author is a graduate of a certain bulldog mascoted school, and has a tendency to think every Hoya star will be a great pro.
Me like Rush too
He seems solid to me.
When I see Hibbert, I think Magloirible. He’s big and will be a load, and woulda been a surefire lottery pick last year. Is he the next Patrick O’Bryant? He’s really big, but also really slow. I thought his agility and work ethic were his question marks, are those his strengths?
Hell, he’s huge. Get him in a jersey and let him be big and score 50 against the Warriors.
Mortimer
i used to date
a guy that look like Hibbert.
I don’t think he’s a fit for the team tho. He is wayy too slow but he could help us in the rebounding dept.
-Sophia
POB apparently has a really crappy attitude
or so the scuttlebutt goes around the bay area. Of course, he ended up with a coach who refuses to play a style that POB could actually contribute to…
Hibbert has a great work ethic. He came to college a completely raw, unskilled, soft-as-dough mass, and after a lot of hard work, became one of the top big men in the ncaa. he’s developed a very solid repertoire of post moves—spins, hooks, turnarounds all look good from both sides. Very good hands too. He showed incredible improvement his first three years in college ball, but since he didn’t make major strides this past year, he seems to be getting overlooked. He’s very smart, has a great attitude.
The major question marks with him is whether he’s quick enough for the pro game and conditioning. He has never played a lot of minutes, and part of that is the ticky tacky foul calling in the ncaa game, but part of that is conditioning too.
by howlingfantods on Jun 4, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You sold me on him
I’ve noticed he was a lottery pick last year and is now a late 1st rounder (at least being predicted there). If he’s coordinated and works hard like you say, that goes great with 7’2”. I don’t know why more NBA players don’t become over 7 feet tall, because it could really help their game.
We’d never need Hibbert to play many minutes either, so his conditioning may never be a problem. Just a wide load to come off the bench and be big and have more offense than Joel.
I don’t know if I’d use my #13 on him (ok, I do know that I probably would not), but trade 2 second rounders for a late 1stie, and you got Hibbert all over your face.
Mortimer
I watched about 25 games of Rush
this year and read far too much stuff all year (as every year for KU). Rush was proclaimed their best perimeter defender by Coach Self as a Freshman, as a Sophomore and again this year. Unselfish to a fault he took the best perimeter player game after game and was a big part on holding opponents under 40% FG and his offense was at once beautiful and frustrating because he did not have that killer instinct (definitely not Michael) and yet he made it look so easy. As a culture guy I would see him as perfect for us.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
The inhailant, the band, or the radio host?
A modern day warrior
Mean, mean stride
Today’s Tom Sawyer
Mean, mean pride
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow talking about me
Not into inhalants.
I was already a fan of the band.
I don’t like talk radio in general. It’s all opinion, with little information or analysis.
So I must be referring to the Kansas Jayhawk. Yeah, that’s the one.
Oh, Sorry
Where is my mind?
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow talking about me
Oooh no you diint
GWU guy? Not American, surely.
by howlingfantods on Jun 4, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
CHALMERS
i’m sorry, other than Westbrook (and of course rose or mayo, but assuming those are out of the question) this is obvious IMO…I don’t see a player who would be more perfect for what the blazers need than Mario Chalmers…of course, i don’t see him on that workout list…but the guy is a deadeye kickout shooter, a great defender, and reliable in the clutch (ask the memphis tigers)..sure he’s not a great ballhandler, not great driving to the right or shooting off the dribble….his deficiencies are all in areas that we don’t need in our point guard considering how we’re planning to run the offense thru the big three and possibly rudy…I’ve been saying for months to anyone who will listen, what we need at the point is a derek fisher clone—championship teams based off a slashing 2 guard NEED that kind of guy to throw in at the 1, especially if they have good interior options…the Shaq/Kbe Lkers, anyone? Steve Kerr/MJ (and kerr wasn’t in the same league defensively that chalmers is in)? Not to mention our biggest weakness on D is going to be stopping quick PGs otherwise…we get toasted by jannero freaking pargo for god’s sake.
Am i missing something? this seems so obvious. Right now he’s on the fence about even coming out because he doesn’t know if he’ll go in the first. We should be all over this guy telling him if we don’t grab him at 13 (only cuz westbrook drops) then we trade a couple second rounders and scoop him up in the late first.
by DominicanAvenger on Jun 4, 2008 3:03 AM PDT reply actions
To me
Mario looks like a slightly better version (stronger, faster) of Steve Blake. Which I guess is all that you really need.
Joel Freeland=Stud
i wouldn't argue with that...
and yeah, honestly i think that would fit perfectly. Think he’s a little more explosive as well
by DominicanAvenger on Jun 4, 2008 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure I agree
Biased here of course but Mario has been my favorite each year at KU. He is more efficient than Blake and a much better shooter in college. His defense is excellent and dominated Rondo at Kentucky. Mario give you whatever you need. Against Texas KU needed scoring and he scored 30. It was always that easy for him but he prefers to use his teammates. But on this team Mario (and any other PG we draft this year) will be a backup. Same for PF, SF, Center or SG as well. We are drafting backups. Can we get him in the 2nd round? Highly doubtful as he declined to go to Orlando and his action was based upon really good advice (San Antonio’s GM, Buford is also a KU grad whose son plays for KU). So it is logical to assume Mario has a promise in round 1. Coach Self does not believe Mario will pull out and he said he would only stay in with a 1st round pick.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
Second rounder
I am sure we could get him then. Chalmers is a solid player, but in comparison to some of the other talents in the draft, he is a ‘just be solid’ guy. Nothing wrong with that. I love Blake for that reason (and so do many GMs)..
by RememberRastaMonsta! on Jun 4, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Westbook.
I know he’s not the short term answer to our problems, but he could be perfect in a couple years. That sounds like a long time, but it might be worth it. I love what Detroit did by drafting Rodney Stucky (15th pick) and Jason Maxiell (26th pick). I’m sure there were a lot of Pistons fans who wanted to trade those picks who are now really glad they have them.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
So how is it that we can woat a couple years for
Westbrook, but Jack is given up for lost halfway through his second year? Just askin’
I guess
you have a point, but I think Jack has a lot less tools to work with. Westbrook is probably the most athletic PG in the draft. Jack isn’t even close.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
Coming into the league
Jack was considered much of the same things Westbrook is. Just throwing it out there, as I’m not anti-Westbrook…
Jack showed enough his second season, and scoring ability in his 3rd season, to warrant further appraisal. I don’t think it’s sure that Westbrook would be a better actual PG. Man, if Jack could only play defense like everyone said he could coming into the league…
Mortimer
As a grammarian, I appreciate the corrected title.
However, conventional usage has slipped so badly, that even I probably would have not even noticed, had you not pointed it out to me. Still, a preposition at the end of a sentence is something up with we should not put.
I like the idea of not drafting another point guard, unless Pritchard moves up in the draft to get a point guard who needs far less development. Best player available, regardless of position, should be our choice, if we keep the pick at all.
I suppose trading would be an option, but then are we then helping our rivals in this way, by letting them get good young talent? But, we might also be better off without having to find room for #13. One solution that addresses all these problems is to simply let time expire and forfeit our pick this year. It is not the best solution, but it is a solution.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
lol
Still, a preposition at the end of a sentence is something up with we should not put.
That is classic, TD.
Like all good material, It is previusly owned.
I stole it from one of my undergrad professors. He thought it was particularly clever, and apparently, so did I.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
**Previously
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
Correction
I believe your prof stole it from Winston Churchill. But that could be mythology. And since this is the Grammarjerk zone, I’d like to correct it:
“Ending sentences with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.”
That sounds a lot more like the original quotation.
Like all good material, it apparently originates with Winston Churchill. What doesn’t originate from him?
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
Adolf
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
Man, Adolf Harnack keeps popping up everywhere!
His father Theodosius was apparently pretty disappointed in him.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
Without pedantry, I have little to actually say.
And since I like to hear myself… er, type (?), I continue unabated. Poor grammar skills tend to disqualify one from the intellectual elite that actually run our world. I for one would like to be included in that group. Hmm. Where’s Jscot when you need him?
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
I appreciate the accuracy Dave, but..
The “height” numbers you use are not the conventional one’s used by the NBA. It appears you took the stats straight from the Orlando camp data. Those heights are all without their shoes on. When comparing them to current NBA player’s listed heights, add 1 1/4 inches.
Indeed I did that exactly
I prefer the officially measured, without shoes data pre-draft to cut down on the exaggeration. If a guy is listed at 6’10” I want to know that he’s 6’10”, not 6’7” with 3-inch Nikes. After we draft somebody we can put those extra inches back on him. I don’t mind them then. (C=
—Dave
KP will trade the pick
Sizing up the draft, lots of the players are measuring up smaller than listed pre Orlando. Rose at 6’1 1/2”. Beasly at 6’7”. I mean how big and strong did Joey Dorsey look last year, he measures in at 6’6”?
Joe Alexander is one of the exceptions, coming in bigger. But with that said. We have #25,and after 5 eyars he is just starting to blossom. They are very similar players. Sorry, the Joe A’ pick will not happen.
This years draft looks like a nice time to trade out of the first round for a veteren. Take the flyers with your second round picks
KP has something up his sleeve, my feeling is it will be a trade with a team moving into the rebuild mode. Someone like Dallas or Detroit.
The Oden Era, Day 349
I like Jason Maxiell
Drafted #26 he was a nice find. He fits the Blazers need, an off the bench, live in the paint effective rebounder.
If we can this at #13 (K Love?) I will be very happy.
The Oden Era, Day 349
If you like Maxiell
there is a VERY similar player this year. KP is having him in for a look-see.
Richard Hendrix – W/Oshoes: 6’ 6.75”, 250lbs, fantastic wingspan: 7’ 3”, great reach: 9’ 0”, and
fast: 10.62 3/4 court: 3.27
Check him out: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Richard-Hendrix-229/
by spencerbutte on Jun 4, 2008 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Size comparison w/ Boozer
Carlos Boozer – W/Oshoes: 6’ 7.75”, 258lbs, wingspan: 7’ 2.25”, reach: 9’ 1.5”
of course Hendrix or Maxiell doesn’t have Boozer’s offensive skills, but…. interesting anyway.
Damn
He’s got long arms which makes it really easy to rip off blind billionaires.
For real though, I didn’t realize his arms were sooooo long. Beasley has a similar wingspan, and that can definitely help make up the size difference…
I don’t know why Boozer fell so far in the draft (2nd rounder out of DUKE, wasn’t he?)... does anyone remember why? Attitude? Undersized? No defense? With his strength, length, and shooting touch it’s wierd that he fell so far (with 20/20 hindsight on my side of course).
Mortimer
My take is that Duke had other stars
and it was easy to attribute Boozer’s success to the team rather than his own skills. I is likely true of Kansas this year when there are 6 players in the draft. All of them can play but perhaps only 4 or 5 will be drafted (my bet is 3 1st round).
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
As I recall...
...it had a lot to do with the fact that Boozer was a senior. Conventional wisdom has it that college seniors do not have as much “upside” as underclassmen. Combine that with the fact that Boozer was seen to have under performed compared to his reputation coming out of high school, and his being seen as something of a tweener (6-8 is now considered short for a PF) and GM’s apparently felt that has a marginal NBA talent, at best. I think Lee’s point is also valid. Jay Williams and Mike Dunlevey both came out early that year. and they were selected 2nd and 3rd in the draft behind Yao Ming, it’s pretty obvious that GM’s rated their contribution to Duke’s success above that of Boozer’s.
Personally, I value hard work, a positive, won’t quit attitude, willingness to learn and intelligence as traits to look for in a player. I don’t value athleticism as much. Being able to jump out of the gym is nice, but you don’t get points for jumping the highest. Physical traits I do value are reach and wingspan. I tend to think they are as important or possibly more so, as height is. I like guys who like to play defense. Those type of guys are also the ones who usually exhibit many of the traits I listed above. I also like guys with pure shooting strokes, but I’ve come to the conclusion that a great stroke is not enough in the NBA. You can carve out a niche as a spot up shooter and even have a long career, but it’s still just a niche. You need to bring something else to the table (preferably the ability to play defense).
So is Mick Jagger.
But at least Jagger is still alive. Oh! Wrong Hendrix.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
Are you sure Mick Jagger is still alive?
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
Now that you mention it...
I do keep seeing news reports of Mick Jagger’s body being seen at parties, and that just sounds a little too creepy.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
And a good use of a 2nd round pick
Some excerpts from the link above:
“Hendrix’s biggest appeal as an NBA prospect has to be his rebounding ability, though. Having a body like He-Man, he boxes out as well as any player in the country, and goes after every ball with terrific timing, hands, length and tenacity….He’s not someone who can be backed down in the post due to his incredible strength, and thus is very effective playing man to man defense in the paint.”
“The 62% he shoots from the field is very impressive when you consider how much of the offensive load his team expects him to shoulder, but he’s also a very good passer out of double teams, which is to be expected considering his high basketball IQ.”
LaFrentz is in his last year..
Wouldn’t it be a KP style move to replace him with a “Boozer” type of PF on the second team. Matched up with Joel and Travis, the smalls could shoot away knowing that any misses would be gobbled up. Fast breaks are no problem with Hendrix’s speed.
Nice analysis.
One guy I was surprised not to see on your list – Chris Douglas-Roberts. Doesn’t he fit in the category you described? Based on mock draft boards, he’s around at 13.
Courtney Lee is another one. However he’s listed anywhere from low middle 1st to middle 2nd round. Meaning he might be a stretch at 13.
No love for Hibert?
I can’t understand the lack of interest in Roy Hibert. Are 7-2” centers growing on trees these days? From all accounts, he has a terrific skill set and has a great attitude, but some draft boards have him ranked as low as 24. From what I read, the only thing that’s bugging people are his hands…...or lack there of. If that is such a big deal then Joel should be playing in the CBA with frying pan hands that he’s got.
2-4 the who
Perhaps Sasha Kahn
will be playing long after Hibbert has faded away?
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
Rush
Disclaimer as well…I am an alumni of a certain Jayhawk school. I questioned Rush as a freshman. It seemed like college was just a stepping stone for him even though he was not NBA material. After three years of Kansas ball and a championship, it would appear his mind is in the right place. He is a TEAM player, defensively minded, and knows a little (at least on a college level) about what it takes to win the big games. I think Mario Chalmers would be good too, but he will probably not be the best player when the Blazers pick.
No perfect candidate...
One thing to point out is our initial pick may either be for another team altogether (assuming we trade the pick) or it may be an insurance policy for a future trade…
My thinking is that Joe Alexander is an example of what Travis Outlaw would’ve looked like if he had a couple years of college under his belt. Athletically, they are similar players (with Outlaw having an edge because his points came against NBA players) but if we are expecting Outlaw to be dealt later in the season, then it seems like Alexander would be a nice insurance policy. He could probably succeed in small doses initially (a la Julian Wright) and if nothing else, he would be a good change of pace after Webster and James Jones (if Jones is re-signed).
Brandon Rush, in my opinion, could be one of the potential steals of the draft (along with Roy Hibbert, although there are definite questions about what type of system Hibbert would need to be successful – let’s just say we do not want him going to Utah). He’s big, he can score when necessary, but there are questions about his work ethic and he’s often disappeared when his team needed him most. At one time, he was amongst the best and most versatile players in college basketball, but what happened? Best case scenario, he falls into our laps and feels slighted, so he works himself into a Rudy Gay type player… Worst case scenario, he’s Josh McRoberts.
One idea I’ve been playing around with is #13 + 2 second rounders for the Orlando Magic’s pick at #22 & Fran Vasquez. I know that talent wise, they’ve been hoping for a long time to bring Vasquez over, but they might be tired of waiting (a Luis Scola-esque situation). It’s low risk for us (if he comes, that’s a bonus, if not we’re hardly sacrificing our future) and the Magic could move up and take a shooter (Alexander, Rush, Budinger, etc). With the #22 pick, we’d be looking at whomever fell from our original draft spot (Budinger, Batum, etc) or similar players (Chris Douglas-Roberts), but we could expand our search to include Ty Lawson (the fastest PG in the draft), Mario Chalmers, or an International pick (Serge Ibaka or Alexis Ajinca)...
"I was a huge Dr. J fan, so I was upset when Maurice Lucas and Bill Walton beat up on him in the Championship. But now Portland has a good young nucleus and with Greg coming on next year, they'll be a team I'll follow throughout the season." Obama
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 4, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply actions
Not exactly the formula
KP has described in determining who he wants and going to get them. It is refreshing to read a new idea after long stretches of cut and paste.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
I looked at them all very scientifically
with an anagram generator. I was looking for an obvious sign…
It definitely warns us off Brandon Rush : No Brand Rush (Or shun Brand); No darn shrub; and o.t. Darn bus horn.
I’m worried about Joe Alexander’s future : Real ax end Joe. But he is also a Real Jade Oxen – valuable and strong???
The only thing that turned up about Nicolas Batum was NCAA Botulism. That’s scary even though I don’t quite understand how it relates to him.
DJ Augustin didn’t translate to anything except : Sad jug unit which I’m at a loss to interpret.
Now Donte Green is a puzzle. Don’t Greene (does the final e count?) and Get Ron Eden (has he declared for the draft???) and Rodent Gene are pretty negative, but Red Gent One sounds like him in a Blazer uni
I couldn’t log into my favorite anagram generator and the one I was using was limited to 15 characters so Russell Westbrook was analyzed without the final l of his first name. The anagrams warn of two dangers: Russ elbow stroke which I interpreted as perhaps his shooting form isn’t good, or perhaps an elbow injury is in the future. Also in the future if we draft him: Webster Look USSR – which I interpret to mean that Martell leaves the Blazers to play somewhere in the former Soviet Union.
I hope this analysis will help everyone in their decision making.
by jorga on Jun 4, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
This is extremely exciting research you're doing here Jorga.
I really think you should pursue it. This could be all we need in the future to predict who to target in the draft, who to trade, game outcomes etc. This is even better than the TiH rules. Much more scientific, and I’m sure, much more accurate. In fact, I’d like to see an expanded fanpost on this meaningful topic so that everyone can be made aware of this important tool. You’re a genius!
"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar
Why, thank you, AnnTF
Your encouragement is appreciated. This is not my first venture into the field, however. It was shocking to me (and will be to you) that Blazer’s Edge is nothing but Bald Geezers. Here is a link to that post. If you don’t want to read the whole thing and all the comments the best ones IMHO tell us that Joel is a Blazer Joy Pill and Martell’s trash talk is Tremble, Wastrel!
And the Gilbert Arenas vs. the Blazers story in 4 anagrams of his name : Ingrate bleats, narrates bilge. Tangibles rare, barrage silent..
Here’s another old post. Haven’t done the newest Blazers – I need to see Channing…
Nice
I like it too. Your analysis is awesome.
If Boston wins, my TiH stats still work. My original research came from just adding the jersey numbers of the finals teams. If it works this year, I’m putting money on it next year.
This monkeys gone to haven
The tag that turned up about Nicolas Batum
was Batman. And it’s a good one.
“If he turns out to have stellar workouts he could go above us because his physical tools should dazzle. “
I’m hoping the stellar workout is with us. What he needs is polish and continued good coaching. That would be available in Europe for another year by salting him away with the 13th.
Batman almost came out last year. This is what was said then:
“Batum displayed a plethora of skills that will compliment his physical features nicely at the next level. Defensively, he has the potential to be an absolute force in the NBA. In both the practices and the game, Nicolas Batum used his length well to contest shots and create steals, and nearly every player he faced struggled to score at one time or another.”
Batman's offensive skills
greatly improved this year. His coach worked personally with him on increasing the arch and the overall form.
The big complaint against him now is that he doesn’t shoot enough.
After a three-game streak where he scored over twenty points in each contest, this was said about him,
“The guy can be simply unstoppable, able to create his own shot at will, to easily set up his teammates for easy baskets, to play lock down defense taking advantage of his freakish wingspan and athleticism, and come up with a slew of highlights in the form of blocks, dunks, long-range off-the-dribble shots, etc.”
The promise is there. Do we have time for it to come together? YES, we are in the building process.
by spencerbutte on Jun 4, 2008 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Workouts
I think last year’s workouts definitely helped make the decision between Oden & Durant, though I think it was the lunches and other off-court time that was probably most important.
But as for the later picks? I looked back into the Oregonian and found these tidbits, all from a Joe Freeman article from June 26.
The workout that seemed to generate the most excitement was sandwiched between Oden’s and Durant’s individual workouts last week and involved four guards: Ohio State’s Daequan Cook, Lithuania’s Renaldas Seibutis, Syracuse’s Demetris Nichols and Jackson State’s Trey Johnson.
The Blazers have invited more point guards to workouts than any other position, which could mean they will focus on the position Thursday. Ramon Sessions, a 6-3, 190-pound junior from Nevada, sparked interest at the NBA predraft camp in Orlando, Fla., and did not disappoint during a private workout with the Blazers . Taurean Green, who averaged 13.3 points and 3.7 rebounds for Florida last season, also drew strong reviews from the Blazers during a workout with Oregon’s Aaron Brooks.
Perhaps the most off-the-wall potential target for the Blazers is Brent Petway, a 6-5, 208-pound forward from Michigan. He was the only prospect invited for a second workout and impressed Blazers scouts with exceptional energy and athleticism, including a 42-inch vertical leap.
I remember Petway from Summer League and fall camp – does anyone know if he played anywhere this season? (I know not in the NBA). I’m wondering if some of these guys who were the last cut from fall camp might not be worth looking at again with another year’s experience … maybe for summer league at least?
Petway
Played in the NBA D-League, and won the slam dunk title for the D-League allstar game. He is super athletic but needs refining.
He challenged Dwight Howard to a dunk off that never came to fruition.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back on the summer league team, or get more interest somewhere. He is too athletic to not take a looksee on.
Mortimer
Would you expect
to ever see Petway throw one down on Howard in a game? At 205 that could be ugly….
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
No Love?
what if love drops to 13? Worth it? not included as a lock to go above 13?
Where would he play?
I feel more comfortable with our future resting on the broad shoulders of Greg Oden and LaMarcus Aldridge than the saggy couch shoulders of Kevin Love…
"I was a huge Dr. J fan, so I was upset when Maurice Lucas and Bill Walton beat up on him in the Championship. But now Portland has a good young nucleus and with Greg coming on next year, they'll be a team I'll follow throughout the season." Obama
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 4, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It sounds as if
Love will go earlier.
It also sounds as if KP is interested in him.
I am choosing to believe that he will go earlier.
I am also choosing to believe that the KP interest is a smoke screen. At least I hope it is. Beatles tunes aside, I am not a Love believer.
—Dave
I concur
Love will likely be gone, and it does KP no good to say anything short of “I am interested and tried to get him in”. There’s not much reason to say anything else.
Mortimer
Draft Love
KP does the opposite of what the fans want and Dave is the most biggester Blazer fan.
This monkeys gone to haven
Draft Board
My prediction for Kevin Pritchard’s draft board for the #13 pick (* means I don’t think they will be available at #13):
1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Beasley
3. Jerryd Bayless
4. OJ Mayo
5. DJ Augustin
6. Eric Gordon
7. Danilo Gallinari
8. Joe Alexander
9. Kevin Love
10. Brandon Rush
11. Anthony Randolph
12. Russell Westbrook
13. Darrell Arthur
14. Nicolas Batum
15. DeAndre Jordan
16. Brook Lopez **
In other words, I think Alexander, Rush, Arthur, and Batum will be available, and KP would pick Alexander.
You know, looking at this makes me think they will trade the pick (either for future considerations, or packaging to get a PG), unless they really feel like they need another SF. I think they do but I’m in a very small minority here.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Jun 4, 2008 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
Sorry, that didn't turn out right... darn asterisks
What it should show is that the first 12 picks (not necessarily in order) will be Rose, Beasley, Bayless, Mayo, Augustin, Gordon, Gallinari, Love, Randolph, Westbrook, Jordan, and Lopez.
MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)
by The Cactus Leaguer on Jun 4, 2008 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
It was clear as mud
but it covered the ground….Harry Belafonte
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

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