Pre-Draft Talk: Rumors and Ideas
by Dave on Jun 26, 2008 9:17 AM PDT
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PrintAs I thought about it, I figured it would be easier to split the pre-draft talk by topic. So this thread, open until the draft begins at 4:00 PM Pacific today, is for discussing all draft rumors and ideas. Have at it in the comment section below.
Please keep draft rumor and idea talk here for today so as to not create 92 duplicating posts' worth of chaos in the Fanpost Sidebar.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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oh sure...
you decide that AFTER 104 comments. Trying to pump up the draft commentary there? tsk tsk… there was really no need you know. I bet we’ll break 1600 with KP going crazy with moves that we won’t understand until WEEKS down the road.
Should be fun.
Also, I predict we trade with NY and then snag rose. We’ll try to keep the #6 but may need to give it up in the deal.
Comeon blazer jersey!!!
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I'd also like to point out
that I’m the ONLY one who has stated we’re snagging Rose. I think that deserves a bowl of ice cream out of you in Vegas when I’m proven right.
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Um....
Well, there were at least two other people who predicted that in the official prediction thread. It was quite a long thread, so they probably got buried in there.
But I do hope you’re right. In fact, I will buy you that ice cream if you are!
Awesome!!!
Really?
I must have missed them somehow. I must go back now and search!!!
Dang it all, i was going for the original “that’s NOT happening and no one playing it smart would predict it to happen” move. ah well.
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I was one of them
but I don’t want to go find it.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
I just went to attempt to find
and I did not.
I tossed in the NY deal that will make it happen just to be safe.
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Here was my "official" prediction:
I’m sticking with my (hopeful) vision:Chicago has Heinrich so they allow KP to wrestle away Rose and the #1 spot. What does KP have to give up to get it? I’m going with #13, Travis and Rudy. Of course with the #1 pick KP selects Rose.
This isn’t my official prediction but we might have to give up #13, LMA and change to get at Rose.
Happy daze … we’ll now have the best point guard in the league for the next dozen years.
by TwoDeep on Jun 20, 2008 9:29 AM PDT reply reply
I think I’m a little more realistic than you though, conceding we might have to give up Rudy and T-Law or maybe even LMA to have a chance at Rose.
But from what we’re reading so far, this doesn’t look be playing out :(
As I posted below, we probably have a better chance snagging Beasley from the Heat.
Now that you mention it
I remember that.
I like Rose, but not that much and I disagreed with it (if not in the post then in my head).
You’re right in that I think we’d have to go through a number of other teams, but I don’t think we’re giving up the core.
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Two deep...how wrong you are.
Rose is hyped. KP knows this….....his target is a veteran
Say it with me….Chauncey Billups
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
you betcha,
I’ll say it with you…...Chauncey Billups!!!!!
problem is I heard he was going to GS with Sheed for Baron, ect.
That and I heard we were going for Harris
I like harris better.
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You got it
But in fairness to the other two guys, I think I’ll owe them ice cream too. Three scoops for the guy who was first, two for second. Sadly, you’ll only get one ;(
I'll be happy to split that bill
hell, I’ll buy them a car if we get Rose (note: this may not be a very nice car or even a real car, but it will be interpreted as a car)
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KP's trading out of the draft for Mortimer's man crush in NJ
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Maybe KP
Thinks that I am KP also, and has adopted my Devin Harris love.
DRAFT DAY, WHAT WHAT.
Mortimer
jscot said you're Quick the milk chocolate rabbit
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by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
That's how
Quick gets all his inside info.
KP is actually not even a person. He’s a robot, with a supercomputer brain.
Mortimer/Quick is the guy who pushes the buttons based on the computer readouts.
This is why KP/Mortimer/Quick own the rest of the GMs. First, more rapid access and organization of info. Second, misdirection in the media due to the Quick connection.
Me? I’m Paul Allen’s brain. This is why T Darkstar can’t be financial secretary when I take over the world. Too much stuff I don’t want to reveal.
Nate is really tominhawaii. They both have a man crush on Jarrett.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
I think I'm Bill Bayno now
Because he lives in LA to coach Loyola, and he digs black chicks.
Quick uses hair gel, I do not, and he has cats meowing in the background sometimes during his Quick chats, and while I have had cats that I love I do not currently own one. Thus, I am not Quick.
Ever since I shook KP’s hand, I hopefully infected him with the love and admiration of one Devin Harris. This was just a lil’ before he became the official GM, and I like to think my handshake and asking him to please stay in Portland did the trick.
If I’m not KP, I am at least responsible for everything he has ever done that is good.
Mortimer
I still think I'm Chad Ford
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Are the Knicks really dumb enough
To send us their only tradable asset AND their #6 pick for two first round picks that mean nothing plus an average PG just to get rid of a contract in the faint hopes they land LeBron in a couple years?
I say YES!
by AndrewD on Jun 26, 2008 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes
because you’re talking about Stephen and a buy out too. this helps relieve cap space and with that trade the blazers move up get rose and don’t need to worry about free agents because our team will be 100% set.
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might be another player, but i'm betting Stephen.
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Really...
the question becomes… is Rose really worth it?
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I'm not entirely sold on that
Even if he were chris paul reborn before he died, I’d still keep Aldridge as well.
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KP targeting
I’ve seen in some of the commentary about getting the 10th pick that the pick would allow us to snag whichever of Westbrook, Augustine or Bayless is still available at that pick (see TrueHoop, for example). This doesn’t ring true to me, for the following reason. KP has a stated philosophy of targeting the player they want, then doing what it takes to get that player. I don’t see him thinking, ‘whichever is still there is the one we want’. He may be forced to take whoever is left, if no deals are available. But if there is a targeted player in the draft, then there is a single targeted player, and hoping that he falls to number 10 is not the plan. Folks say that it is actually Augustine that is being targeted, but I don’t believe that is based on actual knowledge of the inside scoop. Fact is, we don’t know exactly who is being targeted, that is not public knowledge. Could be Bayless for all we know. If another team knew that, they’d do what we did in the Foye-Roy trade—disrupt someone else’s plan, take the desired player and force a trade. All that I can say for sure is that we’re not taking 5 players away from the draft this year, so something’s got to give. But it won’t be sitting and waiting for a consolation prize in case our guy gets away.
Agreed
10 is probably too low for what we want anyway. Even if I’m off base with Rose, I see us moving up to 5th to really get what we want.
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I don't know about that
What’s to say KP hasn’t looked at 3 guys and said, “Wow. These three guys all fit the team, help us in places we could use help, and just would be really nice. I’d prefer guy #1 if he’s available, but any of the three will strengthen us.” Say Westbrook, Augustin, and Alexander (I can’t believe Bayless will slip that far).
He can be pretty sure that one of them will be there at 10.
You can’t go into it targeting just one player unless you have the #1 pick.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
yes but
I think KP DOES have the plan B’s in place, but I believe that we’ll be moving further up than 10. that’s pretty low and i’m not convinced ANY of those guys are there at 10.
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Could be
But if none of the guys he wants are there at #10, he may just not do the deal and pick Rush at #13. Could happen now that Jones has opted out.
I agree, a further trade up is very possible. In fact, likely. But then, KP always surprises me. The only thing that will really surprise me is if he doesn’t surprise me.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
that's true
heck, I’ll honestly be shocked if we actually get Rose.
I suppose the only way he’d shock me is if we did nothing.
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It's a contingency plan
We won’t make the deal for 10 (nor will NJ), until after the #9 pick has been made. At that point, if the guy KP is targeting is there, we pull the trigger and get our guy. If he’s not, we don’t.
I’m sure we are trying to develop other options as well – like the option of moving up to #6 to get a guy we are targeting. Again, we wouldn’t actually execute the deal until we know our guy is there.
I think KPs plan is to get as many possible trades on the table as possible, then pull the trigger on the one(s) that get us the guys he is targetting (either in the draft or through trade). But like you said, he’s not going to pull the trigger early.
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by ralphzillo on Jun 26, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha, KP is good at SPAM
Our Summer League team will dominate!
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
How about the leverage of Portland having THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS? to move up...
I just read that Houston’s #25 pick is up for grabs (like two early 2nd rounders). Check out this link:
“-Houston may trade out of the first round, according to reports we received from a team drafting in the 20’s. If Courtney Lee is not available at their pick (25), they may trade down with Minnesota and acquire the #31 and #34 picks. They are also talking with other teams.” – Draftexpress.com
How tantalizing would those three picks be to move up, or do the 2nd rounders hold a different value for teams who want to build an international prospect pipeline like Portland, San Antonio and others?
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
#5
blah blah blah… we get kevin love. blah blah blah.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=DraftWatch-080626
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Love? We all want love but who wants Love?
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Minnesota
We’ll trade 5 for 3 and get Mayo
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
I could live with that
After all, I did say that Mayo was the best player in the draft. If I believe that I can’t really turn him down!
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oh yeah
I forgot about Malik Rose… WE might be buying him and then waiving.
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say it with me everybody, Chauncey Billups
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He is on the block
But I just do not see it happening. We would need to send one of the big 3 for him, or get rid of our bench to get him…. and that is not happening
I'll pass
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Sounds Like Smoke - at least on Love
And earlier, Chad reported the Net/Blazer #10 for Jack, our #13 and the #33. In this case he said we wanted Augustin, now, he says we want Westbrook. And where does Love come into any of this? Why go to #5 to get a PF who can only play behind Aldridge? You don’t draft at #5 for a backup – you draft for starters. And on the Blazers, Love is a backup. C’mon Chad – that sounds like a lot of the smoke that’s been floating around for a few days.
AGreed
Seriously… this year is a LOT more fun than last year.
I’m going to laugh hysterically if the blazers do nothing. I’m definitely enjoying the suspense though.
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I'm going to laugh gleefully if we do nothing
It means we’re getting the pieces for a trade on July 1, when Harris is no longer BYC.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
You mean July 9
There is a one week moratorium, at least that was the explanation given on when the O’Neal – Ford deal will go through. Waiting so long without seeing anything would be hard, at least I want to hear a solid “rumor” this evening during the draft broadcast.
Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
oh man
the suspense will last even longer???
They is killing me!!!
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KP's new draft strategy
I read somewhere that KP’s new strategy has to do with the taste of the player’s butt. Since Shaq’s rap on Kobe, KP decided it was best to turn the other cheek and draft the BBA.
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My final thoughts
Since I whiffed on the Calderon move, I thought that I would take one last stab at this before I go to work. I’ll be listening, but will not be near a computer until this is all over.
3 team trade:
Trade #1
NJ gets Jack, #13, #33 and McBob from Portland.
Houston gets Webster from Portland and Hassell from NJ.
Portland gets Battier from Houston and the #10 from NJ.
NJ has long been rumored for Jack and they get #13 and #33 just as reported.
Houston gets a young offensive player and a very good defender.
Portland gets a great defensive vet and the #10 pick.
Trade #2
Portland trades #10 RLEC for Cardinal, Collins and #5 from Memphis.
It’s just as reported, but Portland sweetened the pot and got #10 instead of #13.
Portland drafts Bayless at #5.
There that felt good. Portland ends up with a great SF, a fantasic guard to play next to Roy, a expiring contract and a decent PF/SF on the bench.
27 will be used with the second round picks to move up and get Koufos at #18.Oden/Pryzbilla/Collins
LMA/Frye/Koufos
Battier/Outlaw/Cardinal
Roy/Fernandez
Blake/Bayless/Surgio
Interesting stuff
I think Houston wants a little more for Battier, but it’s fairly reasonable.
It’s trade #2 that makes no sense to me. Tons of sense for us, none for Memphis. Perhaps we’ll need to give them the #27 as well. I could live with that.
In general, this scenario is workable and would be really nice for us. Leaves a roster spot for Koponen, who goes to Idaho. Next year, he and Sergio have a battle royal for the #3 spot, which turns into #2 ahead of Blake the following year.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
One other thought
If we get to #5, we may not stop there, either. Minnesota likes Love, who they could get at #5. If KP likes Mayo and manages to get #5, he may be on the phone to McHale.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
and then... why stop there?
When we could keep moving up and snag rose with mayo and parts?
If Rose is as good as everyone but me think he is, then it makes sense to do that.
although, i think miami takes mayo.
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I would imagine Bayless would start
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
How much do we value Outlaw?
Chad Ford is throwing around a rumor that the Blazers are thinking of moving up to take Memphis’ #5 pick in a package that could include Outlaw. Thoughts?
He gets closer to home
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I'm not terribly sold
I only want a better PG and to thin out the ranks a little. I’d rather give away frye from an analytical stand point than I would outlaw. If it’s true, that means we keep webster, right? Because I like him as our SF.
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63% of B-edgers prefer Outlaw over Martell...
Check out this post and vote if you haven’t yet:
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/6/25/559084/one-final-vote-outlaw-vs-w
2 of every 3 Blazers Edgers are leaning toward the sixth-man Outlaw, regardless of whether or not I agree, that is a pretty good majority so far. Is it time for our draft party to be united? Does that mean our pain threshold for trading Martell is now much more palatable? Or, is there any rookies in this draft (aside from Rose) to let these two rising forward stars go?
I think, due to the minute crunch down the road, that it would be best to leverage one as they are the best tradeable assets we have. Does Martell want to be the MAN for his team? How much better/more consistent can Outlaw become? Will Channing Frye’s work on his deep shooting make up for the loss of a Martell (if it happens) or losing backup shooting specialist James Jones?
I guess we’ll find out.
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I would feel so much better about Outlaw
If he ever even showed a GLIMPSE of being able to play team defense or team offense. I love the kid, don’t wanna trade him, and he is cheap as hell. But, he still just scored 13 ppg as the main option on offense when he was in, and did nothing else. Martell scored 10ppg as the 3rd/4th option on offense, and played pretty good (and still improving) defense and played within himself with the more talented starters.
Outlaw just hasn’t shown any of us he is a starter, besides having a great body and some very exciting plays. He COULD learn how to play with others better, but I’d wanna see it before we force him to have to start.
Of course, Webster’s contract stuff and his value are tempting to make him be moved. I’d be okay losing either for the right deal.
I might be in the minority, but Webster is already a more complete player AND is he younger. Outlaw is really one-dimensional.
And both are best friends with Roy, according to the Quick BFF list. I wouldn’t necessarily use Outlaw’s friendship with Roy as an argument FOR Outlaw.
Mortimer
I agree
I’ve got a pro-Martell bias (and was definitely in the minority last summer), but while I like both players a lot, Travis just seems more expendable. He’s older, less of a passer, less of a defender, and his trade value is sky-high right now. I’d rather keep both, having Martell be the starter and defenseman and Outlaw the bench scorer, especially without James Jones around. But if we’ve got to trade one or the other, I’ve gotta lean towards keeping Webs and shipping out Trout. Sorry, ann.
yup
I was there with you as I’ve been pro-Martell too. I think he’s a better fit. Honestly, if I’m going to be cold, i get rid of Frye, Jack, Sergio, McRoberts, Finland kid, RLEC, and I take bake our starting point guard.
I say cold because I love Frye and don’t want to do that. Martell at SF is a better fit than outlaw. Outlaw at SF and PF is a better fit than Frye… darn it.
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13ppg, but did explode a good handful of times...
I do believe that Outlaws CONSISTENCY is going to continue to improve. What if Outlaw has an additional 5-10 games over last year where he explodes in the points column and is more steady throughout the rest of the games (not as many COLD games). That improvement is not too far off and not asking too much for his talent. Plus, last years 13.3ppg is a real confidence builder as are his last minute clutch games.
Personally, Mortimer, I too prefer Martell over Outlaw for the same reasons you say.
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Outlaw will always be a great scorer
And I think he’ll improve his consistency there as well… it’s just the rest of his game that really worries me, unless he’s coming off the bench. Off the bench, we can allow him to have those holes and just keep his game simple and make him score. As a starter, it’s a lot of stuff he HAS to do that he never has done before…
Makes me worry is all.
I think he’ll be a high teens to a 20ppg scorer, IF given the shots. As a 6th man, I think he’ll stay in the mid-teens and get 6th man of the year votes, and if he shows he can learn the INTANGIBLES, who knows…
He is entering his 6th season though. Hmmmm…
Mortimer
not sold on Outlaw as a starter either
to me, Webster as a starter and Outlaw as a 6th man is a strength and a luxury. Outlaw as a starter is a weakness.
I agree
Plus we should probably realize that Rudy is the 6th man for the forseeable future anyway. I’m also much more inclined to keep Martell over Travis.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2008 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't like T-Law's shot blocking?
Or that he can easily get his own shot which is a lame area for Martel?
As a starter?
No, not at all. Outlaw can only create for himself, which works wonderfully on the playmaker-less 2nd unit. Now that Rudy will be on the 2nd unit, perhaps the playmaking gets better, but he’ll still fit with Outlaw and they could play together because at least one can playmake.
The starters gotta compliment each other. Martell can’t create his own shot like Travis can, but he has gotten better, and his teamplay is much better than Outlaw’s… and Martell is a lot, lot further along than Travis was at the same age.
T-Law’s helpside shotblocking is way overrated as a real helpful statistic. It’s great he can do it, but it doesn’t make up for his atrocious defense otherwise.
If Outlaw could use his skills to create for himself and others, it’d be different. If he had any semblance of a clue what to do on defense, he could start right now. Until he can do either of those, he’s the perfect off-the-bench gunner, and I think forcing him into a more complicated/important role might be a bad idea before we’ve seen he can do that.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 26, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
I’m with you on this on why Webster over Outlaw and you make a good point that Travis may fit less with Rudy on Board. I don’t think so, but it’s something to think about.
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While webster may be more along at his age,
if you look at their actual minutes, their “NBA” age TO has only about 700 more minutes than Webster. Add in the fact taht Webster @ 6 was supposed to be more NBA ready than the 23rd pick TO who was picked solely as an uper athletic project that would take 3-4 years to mature I think they are very similar.
Nba age?
Outlaw is entering his 6th season, and is still learning the basics of team defense and offense. I LOVE the kid, do not wanna move him at all—but do I want him to start? Heck nah, he is such a bad defender… simply dreadful!
I disregard where they were picked, I even disregard Webster’s per/36 small improvements—LMA hardly improved if you look at per/36, but we all can see that he really improved out there, along with Webster. Web’s defense, ball movement, and the fact he was a 20 year old scoring over 10ppg as a 3rd/4th option and tried hard on defense makes him a better fit.
Outlaw is a project still, and an intriguing one. He’s entering his 6th season, and I am fine giving him all the slack he needs. But, we shouldn’t discount Martell just because we got him over Paul, and because we expected more out of him. 13ppg as #1 option versus 10ppg as 3rd/4th options isn’t all that much better, and factoring in smart defense and smart offense that compliments the starters…
Again: I do not want to trade Outlaw. I believe he can improve in all of these areas. I just think defense and BBIQ will always be sorta a weakness with him, and is becoming a strength with Martell who also came out of HS.
I wanna keep both, if possible. Even if we trade Martell, I’d really rather not start Outlaw…
Mortimer
Outlaw is a great help defender...his length makes him a huge threat blocking shots
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He is an average help defender
And again, that does not make up for his ‘worst on the team’ man defense, and how he doesn’t know where and when to rotate, or how to keep his eye on his man.
He had a good shot blocking game 2 seasons ago, .8 last season. I would much, much, much, much rather have a good defender than a guy who can do a cool block once a game.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 26, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm hoping KP can work the system and we end up with...
Oden/Pryz
LMA/JJ Hickson
Webster/Alexander
Roy/Fernandez
Harris/Blake
So let it be written…
Chad Ford chat
“I suspect they’ll get something done to move up a few spots and get Augustin or Westbrook. At 27, look for them to go international with either Nicolas Batum, Ante Tomic or Serge Ibaka. “
Potential deal with the Nets
Story goes:
The Portland Trail Blazers have intensified discussions with the New Jersey Nets about moving up into the 10th pick of the NBA draft with intentions of taking Texas point guard D.J. Augustin, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday.
The Blazers would send the 13th and 33rd picks in Thursday’s draft, along with guard Jarrett Jack, to the Nets. New Jersey also would send guard Trenton Hassell to the Blazers.
Sorry if this has already been discussed.
It has but you're safe because each version has a different player coming
to Portland. It’s either Ager, Hassle or someone else
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
I do like me some DJ
I have a hard time believing that he’s who we’re really after though.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I like DJ, too
Wasn’t concerned about his drop in assists and stagnant a/t ratio last year, because of the departure of Durant. I think he runs a very smooth back court. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the target.
Well, actually
aside from the Memphis game, he was pretty good in the NCAA tournament. Way to point that out!
by The Graduate on Jun 26, 2008 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
biggest problem with this
is that the salaries don’t work. If it’s Hassel coming back, then we have to send more salary. Blake or Outlaw would work straight up. There are lots of 2 or 3 way combinations of Jack, Frye, Martel, McRoberts, and Sergio that work also.
If it’s Ager, than Jack or Sergio work straight-up
by douglast on Jun 26, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Frye on the way out?
I’ve got this suspicion that we bought the #27 so that we could snag Hickson, because we are going to trade Jack, Frye, and the #13 for Harris or for a top 5 pick. Maybe?
I hope not
While that sounds like a great deal for us, I’d still want Frye. He’s just a Portlander. I love his attitude and so on. If there’s ANY WAY to keep him, I want him.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
I like him, too.
Great guy, might be almost as good as LMA eventually. But, we will have to give up something to get a good PG. There must be some good reason for bringing Hickson back for a second tryout, and as things stand now there is no room for him. We all agree that one of the PTB weaknesses is a softness from our PFs. This way we can hang on to both Travis and Martell, Travis can back up both Martell and LMA until Hickson is ready to be the backup.
This might also explain
our alleged interest in David Lee.
Yep and it makes me sad
my love for Frye is not basketball love. I know he played great toward the end of the season, but we know what KP thinks of that sort of play. If I’m only concentrating on BBall skill, Frye’s goneroo, but I don’t I keep him because he’s fun to have around. If he stays, he’ll be remembered better, more fondly than Rasheed.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Yes.
Fry didn’t look too good most of the season. Most of us I think, only remember his improved play after he stepped in when Pryz went down the very last part of the season.
I remember his play all season
and I remember his play his rookie season. Frye will surprise with our team or another.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
not necessarily....
it’s probable that CP3 and raymond felton will be Free agents, in which case, we dont have to give up anything
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm?
Remember, they’ll be restricted free agents, where their current team can offer them MORE money than anyone else, PLUS they can match whatever any other team offers.
Not real likely, but I don’t mind people keeping the hope alive.
Just don’t get too disappointed and all. Oh, and no Felton please!
Mortimer
agree on the Felton.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
CP3
will not be leaving Orlando.
1.) He’s on a winning team.
2.) He LOVES the area.
3.) He loves giving back to that community and has expressed that very vocally.
4.) He’s happy there.
All things change, but it’s not happening.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
here is what my sources tell me
the blazers and knicks are talking about a trade
portland gets new york gets
#6 #13
David Lee jack or black
and a filler
i think there is more to it but like the trade what do u guys think
are your sources..
the numerous radio, tv, and internet sites that have been reporting this exact same deal for the last 36 hours?
easy man, he just joined. might not have seen them.
BLAZER#52. you might want to read all the comments. It’s actually one of the things that makes this site so superawesome. There’re some very smart people here that can help us all undertand things better. The comments here are better than anything you’ll find on ESPN. And watch out for Mortimer because he’s either KP or Paul Allen.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
yeah
i did just join, srry about anything i may have done wrong
I don't think you've done anything wrong wrong
it’s just that certain things tend to get discussed over and over here. If you’re new, you’re not going to be aware of what’s been said and what hasn’t. Jump in just like you did
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
k
srry for reaping i will be more careful
Don't worry Blazers#52
It’s draft day, there is a ton of news to sift through and throwing up what you just heard will be appreciated.
It’s not like you’re making a new fanpost, I think throwing out stuff that is new to you in a rumor thread is just fine. Someone might have said it before, but there will be so much news and rumors to go through I can’t expect everyone to read everything right away…
What are people watching/listening to?
Mortimer
im listing to
the bald face truth with john canzono 12-3 and then 4-? is blazers court side with all the awesome draft coverage
no worries.
I’m sorry for jumping on you. Pretty harsh by me.
When someone comes in with “my sources tell me” that comes across as though they have some sort of “insider” access that the rest of us may not. If they then follow that up with a rumor that’s been pretty widely reported, it sounds like maybe they are just trying to make themselves look important or something.
I’d suggest instead of saying “my sources”, just use “I just heard on the radio” or whatever. Be specific and it’s all good.
Everything’s cool man, and welcome aboard. This site is AWESOME and you will find no more in depth talk and analysis ANYWHERE.
yeah just be careful with the word my sources
it riles a lot of people up because to be honest most of us have no sources (dave and PERHAPS morty excepted) and people dont like posters who just make things up they have heard.
Douglast is right, just state where you heard it and most people will be forgiving. If you do REALLY have sources, by all means PLEASE do share as far as the bosses will let you.
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
whoa whoa whoa
I do not support any trade that has us giving up Jack Black.
I don't know
I love Jack Black, but Seth Green has a nice fan base too.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I guess it depends on what you're looking for
visual appeal or music to the ears.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
i could
i want jack traded not blake he can be our back up to our new point guard
skadoosh
secnd time I’ve been able to use that in a post in 2 days, thanks abdelnaby!!
by monkeybones on Jun 26, 2008 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Also. you can reply to their comment by hitting the reply button
it helps us all understand what you’re talking about.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Morty drives PA's boat.
How do you think he gets his scoop ?
I’m just sitting on the couch, or checking the cushions.
Should we call his Captain Morty ?
It's GO time !
# 27 from NO for PASC ?
PASC = Paul Allen’s Sofa Change.
Just saying it's the place toooo beeee.It's GO time !
I for one
Would not be surprised if Blazers#52 is actually a Blazers employee testing the waters of what the hardcore fans will think of the various trade ideas KP is working on…
Just made an account yesterday, speaking in short sentences to cover up their tracks, it makes perfect sense…
So, I’m listening, and I hope I didn’t blow their cover.
Mortimer
dude
im not a blazer employ at all i wish i was in the war room with kp that would be awesome but tanks for the complement any way
very likely
some blazer employees might even try to cast suspicion on others…
just saying.
smoke and mirrors and ice cream baby!
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
You cant tell from the writing style
Its obviously actually Oden.
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What Oden is doing now....
Getting his GRIND ON ...Not writing.
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
aww man
and here I am writing like a chump! Well played, Mr. Oden.
I dont know where she has been or if she is legal
but if she is..
I would gladly have my nose rubbed in it
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
No need to worry about legal
when you’re 17.
Actually, not true—there have been teenagers busted for sleeping with younger teenage BF/GFs, when the age difference crossed the age of consent.
But this is an old photo of Greg.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice try KPmortimer
You set up poor Blazer#52 to do this and then you burn him within two hours. Man, you’re cut throat.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Plans within Plans within Plans!
Sounds like something KP would say
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
What do you guys think about the Knick trade?
seems like a no brainer to me. David Lee is solid and would fit in perfectly with our halfcourt offense. Between Oden, LaMarcus, and Lee, I don’t think we would ever give up an offensive rebound.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:13 PM PDT reply actions
I like the trade
but Lee’s a throw-in really. The deal is about the 6 pick, or what we could package it for. Not saying he isn’t a nice bench player for us, but that’s not why we are making the deal.
trading 13 and 27 for 6 is a no-brainer.
who do we grab at 6 you think?
almost everyone we want is available there, that would be a tough choice.
In KP we trust
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Westbrook or Bayless
if alexander is good
how is it too high?
That’s what I never get? If you know what you want and the guy is good (see wade going six instead of second) how is #6 too high?
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I agree with that philosophy
Get who you want when you pick regardless of where it is. If its 10 picks too high, sure, trade back but if its one or two, why risk it
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
well
The thinking is that you can take the #6 and trade down a little bit (say, #8 or #9) to where Alexander is still available, and pick up an additional asset in the process. On the one hand, it’s a gamble—there’s value in just getting the guy you like when you can, as you said. However, it’s not necessarily getting the most efficient use of your pick, which is what I meant by too high.
yeah, i thought about that
but if you think a player is the best player or 3rd best with star potential… me… personally.. i take him at 6 even if i could get him at 10. Too many things can go wrong.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
to be more specific
in this draft, there are some highly coveted guards at #6 (one or more of the Westbrook/Bayless/etc. crew) who seem locks to go ahead of Alexander. It seems almost a certainty that a trade could be swung to drop down a couple of picks and net Alexander plus assets, which is why I meant specifically that #6 was too high for him.
Westbrook.
If Mayo goes 3, then bayless goes 4, and a Love/Lopez go 5
If a Love/Lopez go 3, then mayo goes 4, and the 5 is the other Big
Either way, Westbrook is there at 6.
If it really is on the table
KP will do it for sure when the time comes
There must be a catch.
I’m assuming we would have to take on one of their horrible contracts.
that's what I've been saying
although it might not have been as bad as I mentioned with Stephen. Rose is there too.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I'd do it and take Rose in a heartbeat
I bet the first day of training camp Malik comes down with a pinkie injury out for the season
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
call up tawnya
she could help with that.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
it's pretty much a no-brainer
I like Jack, but between Rudy and an incoming guard (Westbrook/Bayless/Mayo), he’s replaceable. Lee’s also a good asset, either for trade, or to make Frye available (sorry, Channing). If we also do the Memphis deal (Raef and change for the #5 plus bad contracts), we’re in a serious position of power near the top of the draft. But since both of these deals sound too good, there must be something I’m missing.
yeah
I just can’t see Frye staying as much as I’d love him to. Dang it.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Unless he's okay being a career backup
The best way for Frye to stay is if he kinda sucks, which he doesn’t… he’s kinda good. Probably good enough to start for a lot of teams. If he’s okay being a FOREVER backup, and being paid like one (maybe a lil’ more than a normal PF backup over the long run), then he could stay, but I dunno…
I wouldn’t blame him for not being happy with that.
Mortimer
yeah
I know. I just love the guy.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Me too
He is awesome in an interview and loving Portland is the bestest way to get into a Portlander’s heart.
Aside from Jack (whom I also like/love), I could see us getting Webster and Frye to sign a short deal for Outlaw type money, with a big payoff only a breakout season away…
But I dunno how likely it is, and both have good value.
Mortimer
Frankly
I love it. Even if we don’t trade up for rose. I suspect that’s not ALL we get though. I’d guess we’d have to dump some salary for the knicks too. If paul allen is okay with waiving, then I’m good with that.
We get a “supposed” awesome point guard at 6 and Lee. What’s not to love?
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I just re-read this post that Dave made
“Please keep draft rumor and idea talk here for today so as to not create 92 duplicating posts’ worth of chaos in the Fanpost Sidebar.
Dave are you saying that I will post duplicates and cause chaos??
GO says " Sir, you fornicated vertically…observe the consequences!
It's got to Russell W.
I vote for the right PS moving us in position for DDDDDDDD.
Length, hops, maniacal work ethic and Pops is still his mentor.
Workout proved the shot is there, but being a gym rat solves
95% of all deficiencies. You can’t coach “Be Humble”.
CAPT. MORTY, ASK PA TO BRING BACK OUR BLAZERS ?
CHARTER’S PRES IS ON SPEED DIAL, I’M SURE.
It's GO time !
I'm texting him right now
Since I drive his yacht, the next time he’s out in the middle of the Indian ocean and a Blazer game is on, I won’t move the boat into a position where he can pay hundreds of thousands to change the angles of various satellites, enabling him to get the feed to the Blazer game.
NOT TILL HE TELLS COINCA$$$T TO PUT THE BLAZERS ON TV!!
Mortimer
How about this trade?
I have no idea how to make it work, since the ESPN trade machine won’t let you use TR players, or whatever but what about a trade like this?
Blazers
Out = Jack, Frye, #13
In = Devin Harris, #7
Nets
Out = Harris, Carter, #10
In = #13, Maggette
Clippers
Out = #7, Maggette
In = Jack, Frye, Carter
I have no idea what you’d have to do to make this work, or what players and salaries you’d have to throw in from each team to make it work, but those are the major parts and pieces.
With this, you’d get:
Blazers: A good starting PG in Harris, and the #7 which would be Alexander. After reading that yahoo article about him parking his truck in the gym steps to work out after the power went out in the gym, i’m sold on him. That’s dedication.
Nets: The #13 pick, some spare parts i’m guessing, and Maggette, who they’d have to resign I guess, or something. The main thing they get tho, is out from under VC’s huge contract, so they can make a run at LeBron soon.
Clippers: Vince Carter is pretty soft, like Pillsbury Doughboy soft, but he’s still a big name which means something in LA, and can still play pretty well when he wants to. They also get Jack as their new PG and Frye as a good backup to Brand and Kaman, or insurance if Brand is traded.
This would be the huge splash trade that KP loves to pull off, but I think the difficulty would be in the 11/10 range.
seems unlikely for a draft day trade
thats a lot of players and teams, when most teams are trying to concentrate on the draft exclusively
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Nets give up harris and carter for maggette?
No way
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya
There would have to be some more pieces to the trade, maybe some more blazers or clippers, I don’t know, those are just the major pieces. It’s hard to match everything up when the trade machine won’t let you use draft picks or players with trade restrictions, bleh
MAN
MAKE THAT TRADE WORK NOW AWESOME THINKING DUDE
clippers already traded #7
for seattle’s #4
also, we aren’t sending enough salary in this deal. we need to send between 5.85 and 9.75 million back to take on Devin’s 7.8 millon.
our salaries:
Blake 4.59
Outlaw 4.00
Jack 2.00
Frye 3.16
Martel 3.77
Sergio 1.05
McBob 0.45
Also, because of Harris’ contract situation, this would have to happen after the moratorium
Ya, just saw the #4 for #7
That’s pretty crazy, like 5 mins after I post I see the link for that trade, heh. Well, it would have to be #7 if you want Alexander, since everyone seems to think Milwaukee at #8 will pick him so he can converse with Chairman Yi.
Not for sure yet
It depends on Memphis.
The Sonics have agreed to trade the #4 to LAC for their #7 and a player, however if OJ Mayo is not taken third, the deal is off. Which is who the Sonics apparently want
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant Minnesota
not memphis..
my bad
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
not 7.8 million
that’s his salary “next” season. Technically we are still in 2007-2008 season, which will end on June 30th, so his current salary of 3.99M will be applied here.
not exactly
because he HAS the extension already signed, there is a PPP that comes into play if a deal is done now. It works similar to a BYC.
Harris or Westbrook...
In a perfect world, I say Portland ends the day with either Westbrook or Devin Harris. Harris would be better, as it satisfies our need for a veteran and our need for a point gaurd, and he’s only 25. But Outlaw is absolutely off the table. Gotta get rid of a point gaurd or two though, Jack or Sergio, but not Blake or Koponen.
Rule =Rules
I’m sooooo Anti-trade if it includes Martell or TO. Coaching many
squads over the years, the unique aspect to TEAM is chemistry/cohesion/
brotherhood (& talent mix).
Even though I like Buffet and JJ, this is the first trade proposal I’ve seen
that makes sense. My two favorites in the draft are Westbrook & Alexander, period.
It's GO time !
wow lol
Seattle wants ANOTHER 7 footer!! yeesh
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Bayless probably available then
that seems a bit high for westbrook, don’t you think?
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
being discussed in other thread
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/6/26/559316/pre-draft-talk-trades-made#comments
they are aiming for Mayo, not westbrook I think. Seattle figures to still get Bayless at #7
Same as above..
No trade if Mayo is on the board. At least so I hear.
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
GET RID OF SERGIO.
We always had a saying if someone was trying too hard without
much chance of sucess = PEAKED.
Sergio has PEAKED. Besides the sled has just arrived from Finland.
It's GO time !
That assumed he's trying
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Richard Jefferson for Easy Yi and bobby simmons
Just saw a proposed trade by New Jersey and Milwaukee sending Richard Jefferson for Bobby Simmons and Eazy Yi Jianlin. Comes from Ric Bucher, saw it on ESPN ticker.
I dunno how I feel
I don’t like Richard Jeff that much, but he is good… he’s still just a ‘best scorer on a bad team’ type player, but better than the Z-Bo version of that player…
Losing Yi after the previous struggles to get him and the BILLIONS of dollars the Bucks can make off of him… I dunno. Just to overpay for Jefferson?
I dunno…
Mortimer
I Digress.
Remember the Yellow Hummer piece ?
I can’t get Sheed singing “I gotta Basketball Jones” outta my head.
Falsetto, of course. FUUUNY STUFF!
? – Is COINCAST HQ IN PHILLY ? My buddy has a 50 cal and effective
range is 1.5 miles. Just saying.
It's GO time !
Cheech and Chong?
How did I miss Sheed singing Basketball Jones?!
I love that song. (Although “Earache in my Eye” is a classic as well.)
RipCity -- now, now ...
Fun KP stuff...
5 – 4 – 3 – 2 – 1 – Pritchslap time! In our countdown to draft time. Let’s take a closer look at our feerless leader:
Back in the day, KP was the leading scorer for Kansas champs (NCAA & NIT)
KP’s brains and charm teamed with PA’s cash… winning combo!
Working the phones like crazy today…
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply actions
that trading card needs to be a t-shirt
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jun 26, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah... Pritchard in BOOTY shorts...
As Paris Hilton would say, “that’s hot.”
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
In my Blazer players topless calender
KP is in every shot, with his arm around his players.
In some pictures he’ll be barefoot and walking out of step with the player, hinting that the player could be traded and/or is already dead.
IT IS A SPOOKY CALENDER, in a sexy shirtless males kind of way.
Mortimer
Mortimer, you are a creep...
But, in a good way.
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
online coverage?
Is there going to be a live video feed of the draft? I’m going to be at work, and I don’t want to miss it.
THE Poobah of Prognostication
PA Smile is priceless !
That my friends is gold. It’s, “I’m ssssooooo Rich and I own the
TRAILBLAZERS !”
I know what my dream is ?
P.S. – PA owns Lee Jeans. The Destroyer, er Yacht is stocked with them !
It's GO time !
Not sure what happened there, funky link got messed up, let's try again
Memphis supposedly offered Mike Conley+#5 for #13+Outlaw+Rodriguez. Also offered #5+? to the Pistons for Rodney Stuckey
Some talk of Bayless being available at 10 if the Blazers trade up. And LMA is on the USA Select team (BRoy declined).
Buddy team
Oden gets Conley but Rudy loses Sergio … and Portland loses Troutlaw!
RipCity -- now, now ...
No reason to get to 5 to get a SF
If we get conley I am assuming he would start
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
so ...
I’m bad at this stuff.
RipCity -- now, now ...
Swap Gay for Conley and Frye for Sergio`
Whhohooo
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i think u read that article wrong
Roy chose not to be on the team because he wants to rest for next season and because he is also going to finish his degree at Washington. And the trade didnt include the 5th pick, so i wouldnt do that because thats too much for Conley
Whats your ring size? 2010
by Gregory Roy Aldridge on Jun 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I promise, I'm not confused
The text of my first post was screwed up, the second one has the full text.
I said “BRoy declined” meaning he was invited but he declined to be on the team. And the Conley trade was in a paragraph about them shopping the #5 pick – it HAD to be included otherwise that trade makes no sense.
I had to check the link out…..I thought BRoy was declined…..it was more like Roy declined to rest and finish up his degree at UW. Can you say college graduate. Good for you BRoy!!!
my bad tmac, i didnt see u already said the Broy thing
Whats your ring size? 2010
by Gregory Roy Aldridge on Jun 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
LmA starting center
You should fanpost this. It would actually be worth it.
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be perfect
If Bayless is there at 10 as the link explains and then the Blazers pull the swap, it would be the best trade situation out of any rumor so far. Well.. besides the Knicks one which just seems ridiculous for them.
Communications/Sociology ????
The ability to talk/socialize with other GM’s before
the PS. – Webster’s
It's GO time !
as always good stuff on draftexpress
draftexpress, which I think is by far the best site on the draft, has heard that the Griz have offered the Blazers Mike Conley for the 13, Travis and Sergio. That sounds like a lot to give up, but I would likely be a fan of it if Conley is indeed seen as a solution to the Blazers point guard problem. He is almost certainly better than Augustine, and any of the point guard prospects of the Blazers, unless a certain 6 foot 5 fin ends up being a player. Also the article says the Blazers like both Bayless and Greene. I like the upside of Donte Greene, as I believe that a tall 3 point shooter would be useful for spreading the floor. It seems that whenever KP discusses a trait that he sees as being valuable for the Blazers he invariably mentions 3 point shooting. This also leads me to believe that Martell has a long term spot on the team. To wrap things up, I sure wish that Smooth didn’t post a link to the same article halfway through me writing this. At least he has good taste in reading material.
Agreed
DE is the best. I mean they are actually professionals as opposed to some other sites who are just regular guys making guesses. What DE is actually best at is scouting internationally.
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Why isn't Mark Cuban buying picks like Sir Paul Allen?
Reading the latest Mock Draft on www.realgm.com i checked in on our pick #27:
“27. Jason Thompson, Power Forward. Rider
Who knows who KP is drafting for with this slot, but I expect it to be for someone else, so this is just a placeholder? Why isn’t Mark Cuban buying picks the way Sir (deserves that title) Paul Allen does?”
Good question. Here is the link to this latest mock draft:
blank”>http://www.realgm.com/src_feature/1277/20080626/2008_nba_mock_draft_version_130(draft_day_edition)/
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
"Kevin must ...
gain weight and get physically stronger to handle the rigors of
the NBA ” Yeh right.
He’s strong enough to p/u the phone and PS someone !
It's GO time !
Seriously made me LOL...
“He’s strong enough to pick up the phone and Pritchslap (ANYONE)!”
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
To quote Chris Rock...
If Paul Allen woke up tommorow with Mark Cuban’s money, he’d jump off a bleeping building.
Not so sure...
Paul was worth over $36 billion in 2000, and that fell to “only” $15.6 billion last year, about a 53% decrease. Not sure what Cuban’s worth is, but anyone who can survive losing over $20 million and not jump off a bridge is pretty grounded as far as I am concerned.
DJ Augustin anyone?
Here is a nice little read about DJ Augustin, a player who I’d like to see P-town walk away from this draft with:
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53187/20080625/augustin_still_cant_believe_where_he_is/
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions
Boo Augustin...
Portland doesn’t need a pure point guard that is too small to guard the dominant point guards in the western conference. It might take some of the pressure off of Roy to run the offense (not necessarily a good thing, as the Blazers seem to do pretty well when Roy is running the offense), but it drastically increases the pressure on Roy at the other end, as he’ll be the one guarding the best PG or SG on the other team. That hurts us more than helps us. Any PG we pick up must be an upgrade on defense, and Augustin doesn’t qualify in that respect.
by BustABucket25 on Jun 26, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Augustine
To me i see him as a combo of Steve Nash and a young Damon Stoudamire
Whats your ring size? 2010
by Gregory Roy Aldridge on Jun 26, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think I've seen this rumor around yet
but maybe it’s vagueness is confusing me and I have heard it but…..
“In the past week, Pritchard has turned down a deal with an Eastern Conference team that offered a starting point guard for Blazers forward Travis Outlaw. “
The street lights is on.
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1214450730320150.xml&coll=7&thispage=3
The street lights is on.
it just won't work right
click that link
it’s called Mr. Wheeler and Dealer
The street lights is on.
Defense ! Defense ! Defense !
How quickly we forget Mousey getting taken down on the
POST. Again and again and again.
I’ts my reoccuring NIGHTMARE !
No more Mousey PG’s. Get Westbrook or trade for Harris, etc.
DOWN WITH COINCAST ! GET ME SOME BLAZERS !!!!!
Southern Oregon is in OREGON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's GO time !
It's not a big deal to have a small PG
because if the other team starts taking our small PG on the block we just sub in Fernandez and go with Roy at PG. Easy as pie. And otherwise, our small PG (that no one else wanted because he’s small) carves up the opposing defense.
see Paul, Chris
if the PG is really, really good, then skill will trump size. CP is, Damon isn’t. Where does Augustine fall? I dunno, which I suppose is why I’m not an NBA scout.
Good call
I agree.. I cant believe the he’s too small stuff is a big deal. he is only a few inches shorter than Bayless or Westy. Besides… we have Petteri maybe. He is a 6’6” and growing PG
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
6'4" not 6'6"
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
I could swear
That I read he had grown 2 inches since we drafted him.. Barrett maybe? Wheels?
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick said
something to that effect in his last O-live podcast—that he looked like he had grown to 6’5” or so.
Ahh thanks
Sounds about right.. i was about to go check Olive..
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I will find link..
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
They haven't measured him yet
They THINK he looked taller, which might make him 6’5” now, but they didn’t measure him yet according to Petteri on Courtside.
I want them to meaure players before every season, because lots keep growing and we still gotta use their pre-draft measurements. Webster looks taller than 6’7” now to me…
Mortimer
He is young enough to still be growing
It would be awesome if they measured Oden and he grew as well..
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
He likely would still be growing
I few an inch and a half during college, and I’m only an inch and a half over 6 foot. These freaks can definitely add that much, and it isn’t uncommon.
Pippen added like 7 inches in college, right?
Mortimer
Yeah thats true
Both of them would still be in college. I dont remember the person, Bill Walton maybe? who grew 8 inches in one summer.. went from a small forward to a center… might have been in HS if it was walton.
a 6’6” Koponen and 7’3” Oden wouldnt hurt
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I added 7 inches
heh…hehehehe
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
surgery is amazing
isn’t it?
:D
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
How did you add 7 inches?!
Gimme some of that 7 inches! I am short and need it in me! How did you grow so much?! Just the thought of adding your 7 inches to myself makes me gurgle with excitement.
I am all a twitter.
Mortimer
ps: weiner
I listened to the thing with Quick
and he said he was a legit 6’4” which I took as 6’3” I recall something about him filling out. If he’s 6’5” or 6” I’ll be very happy that I was wrong. Although, that is rather large for a PG.
Mortimer, should you be getting ready for something? What are you wearing today?
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LOL nice KP toss in the end there
While large for a PG, if he has always been one and has the skill, I see no reason to move him. I would love to have a 6’6” PG IF he knew how to play. Rather have a 6 foot stud than a 6’6” role player.. but thats just me
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A pink tie
No shirt, with white cuffs on my wrists with Blazer logo pinwheel cufflinks. A total ‘G’ look that all GMs will soon he apeing.
Acid washed jeans to round it out. I also grew a nice bushy mustache for the big day.
Drexler sponsored AVIA hightops for my kicks.
It’s the look of a champion.
Mortimer
BEST POST EVER!!!!!!
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Bushy Mustache ?
Mr. Fontes; my college prep teacher came to school
with his breakfast in his black bushy mustache.
He must have been saving it for LUNCH!
It's GO time !
If he has handles like a PG, then I would be happy with a tall PG. his length on defense would be wsome if he did grow even more.
Totally agree
I’m excited about the kid and have been since they drafted him. Not sure if it’s just over-zealousness or whatever (I HATE THE WORD HOMER), but I love the ones you don’t see coming.
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It's not only post ups though
Most PGs will be able to shoot over DJ because of the height differential. Not all, but plenty.
If you’re having to sub him out for defensive reasons, he will often be a hindrance.
I’m not sure if it works out this way, but height is a real concern, even in a PG. Those extra inches really, really matter, and give you the space you need to shoot or make plays or see what the defense/offense is doing.
DJ might be tenacious, but he’ll be abused on defense just because he’s tiny. Maybe not as bad as Damon, but it’s unavoidable. Maybe he can offset this like Paul does by being a master thief, but that isn’t likely.
Is the rest of his game worth it? And don’t we wanna improve our PG defense more than PG playmaking, since we got Roy?
If KP picks DJ, hey, I’ll love the kid and hope he takes his shirt off and we get a DJ nip slip. But otherwise, I’m skeptical of short players. For every Chris Paul and AI, there are a thousand not-Chris Pauls and not-AIs.
Mortimer
I'm not pro-DJ
or anti. I just think that you can’t overlook (no pun intended) a point guard solely on basis of his height. I’m 6’-4” so it’s not like I’m biased toward short guys either…you bring up a valid point about seeing over and shooting over him. But if it comes down to it being a problem, like I said before, the Blazers have options. Go with a Roy/Fernandez or Roy/Webster backcourt and the height problem disappears. So if DJ is the guy, let’s go with that.
I personally think there’s a big chance the Blazers don’t even draft before #27 in this draft…that trade for David Lee might not be sexy but it appears to be one of the more likely ones.
I can't imagine
that David Lee deal going down now that Isaiah is out of town. But if it does, I’m gonna freak out. That would be awesome. Even though it probably means the end of Channing Frye. Can Lee play SF?
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a traditional PF
in every sense…scrappy, rebounder, can’t handle the rock, no outside shot. So it really doesn’t look like he’d make much of a SF. But he’d be a good team player and a “glue” player.
supposedly
DJ’s long wingspan somewhat compensates for his height (Bayless is the opposite-taller, but not very long). That might help him become a steals machine. Good team defense helps here too-this is why Chris Paul’s defensive shortcomings are largely masked, whereas Steve Nash gets exposed. Of course, Nash’s offense more than makes up for his lack of defense. There’s more to it than height, though things certainly get less complicated with a taller guard.
Long wingspan definitely helps
But his short neck keeps his head at his 5’11” leve, while everyone else will be taller. It is truly harder to see past the defense if you’re short. Not impossible of course, as there are lots of decent 6 foot PGs, but not very many great ones.
I think, judging by how he moves and all, that DJ could be a good PG, but maybe not right for us because we’ll always have to compensate for him, and I hate having to take out key players/starters at the end of games because their defense is bunk.
Yeah, we got options if his height is a problem, but then we aren’t making the other team adjust to us, and we gotta adjust to them and put in Rudy/Roy before we want to. Then we could be back on our heels because we gave up points and had to adjust the rotation before planned…
Height isn’t everything, wingspan is important, but when you’re a few inches shorter than most everyone at your position, there is a lot to overcome.
David Lee is a great rebounder but really overrated. He’s an awful defender, and I don’t think rebounding will be a problem this upcoming season. Oden and Pryz will grab a lot of boards, and LMA will prolly do better as well.
Mortimer
In fairness though
no SF can stop Trouts jumper because of jumping ability, no one can block LMA/Rasheeds jumpers because they shoot over their head. That doesnt mean that you dont take a player because he cant block those guys. Also VERY few shots get blocked outside the paint. And the ones that do are usually someone like Travis closing out and jumping high enough to get a fingertip on it. As long as the PG stays in front and gets a hand in the face, thats all you can ask.. from ANY PG. DJ or not…
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with walkoff
do you really want Roy expending all his energy stopping the opposing team’s best player? Or would you rather him using his energy to run the offense and score?
Roy will do whatever necessary
to win. We have Outlaw, Fernandez, Aldridge, and Oden to score. Roy doesn’t have to be the one scoring all the time. You bring up a good point but I think there are enough other weapons in the arsenal that Roy COULD be a defensively-minded PG and the Blazers still win.
Plus, even large PGs aren’t always back-down post players—just a few. So I think the anti-small PG thing has been overhyped.
Depends what your suggestion is
If its Harris then fine. If its Westbrook then I say no.
I am not at all sold on westbrook. He is basically a shooting guard. He doesnt dribble particularly well and he is best in a fast break.. as opposed to running a team. So the trade off is offense for defense.
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
potential PG's...
Devin Harris obviously, but how about another NJ PG? Marcus Williams was pretty highly touted coming out of college, got drafted right after Rajon Rondo, was the heir apparent to Jason Kidd until NJ traded him.
by BustABucket25 on Jun 26, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Marcus Williams bad fit
He is a fatty, has a bad attitude and bad work ethic. NJ was high on him rookie year, but have since become annoyed with his attitude and work ethic, reportedly.
Plus he wears his headband the Gerald Green, Beasley way that reveals pure doucheyness. It goes over the eyebrows, not on the top of the head! THESE KIDS THESE DAYS.
Mortimer
Nj is apparently going into full rebuild mode
RLEC + Outlaw + Frye+ 13th + Jack+ Sergio
for Harris+ VC.
We´d be contenders next year.
Try to remember, TO25=MJ23
In any case, my point was: Who can we trade to get at PG for picks alone: 13, 27, and 2ndRounders?
RipCity -- now, now ...
Outlaw over VC?
I definitely prefer Outlaw to the horrible person and attitude that VC is, but Outlaw will likely never ever ever have the all-round talent and game VC has. Outlaw, entering his 8th season in 2 years, will suddenly be a ball handling all-round NBA marvel?
VC is a bonehead and I don’t want him, but talent wise he is LIGHT YEARS beyond Outlaw. He just doesn’t have a good attitude or work ethic.
Mortimer
What I'm saying
is Outlaw in two years (the timetable for the Blazers) will be a better player than VC in two years—not that Outlaw would be better than VC now or in his prime, which is highly unlikely.
He used to be, don't you mean?
Do you still see significant talent there? I watch maybe 5 or 6 NJ games this year and barely noticed him. He seems horrible now. I’d much prefer Outlaw. Harris is different.
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I can't stand VC
So I don’t want him, but he is extremely talented.
He had a good season, numbers wise. Better than Roy did (again, just numbers wise).
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/vince_carter/career_stats.html
He certainly isn’t horrible, just not a guy who helps you win as the main guy. He is milquetoasty and doesn’t really care, and even with his great numbers he isn’t getting the most out of his talent. He disappoints me.
I’d do it for Harris and maybe see what VC can do, but I think VC has a few more years of numbers like he has been putting up. I DON’T WANT HIM at all, but I do really want Harris…
Mortimer
It's not VC we're after. He's a throw away
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Weeellll ?
You’ve got a point. If he can guard PG’s, that’s great. The scouting report
says D is his weakness and I’d rather have a running mate to BRoy who
will lock up on D, play the passing lanes and leak out for the bomb from GO.
I want BRoy to initiate the O, have the PG play off for the 3 or take the pass
and slash for the elavation/thunder ! Sounds like RW to me.
It's GO time !
So basically
you want a D oriented SG?
then Westbrook would be your choice. I just have trouble taking solace in a kid who barely played at his school, and who also wasnt highly regarded coming out of HS. So while he is a workout warrior there isnt a ton of college action to prove his worthiness.
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Bayless
Ford’s latest mock has Bayless dropping all the way to 12. I have my fingers crossed that we somehow end up with him. I think he is the perfect fit for this team.
Brett Pill - Lord of the double.
Watched a lot.
RW – Late Bloomer. Shot great in workout. Collison played PG as college
veteran. RW still led in assists. Unbelievable wingspan. Big hops.
Defensive POY – Pac10 – Great instincts in passing lanes.
Defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS ! SA – 4 in 9 / Celts this year.
Gym rats can always improve handle and court awareness, because they are
always in the gym/on the floor. Trust me
” You can’t coach height” – Red A. ?
It's GO time !
RW led in assists and also turnovers by a large margin
I wouldnt be angry if we got RW, I just dont see it. He did well when he played but he wasnt a starter, and while i think he played good defense, I would have voted for Collison (who usually guarded the best player) or the WSU kid, (weaver I think) over RW.
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Turnovers=Jack
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW - Loved the Rasta Monsta.
I met him after a Blazers/Kings game at Arco waiting by the bus.
I was on my way to Spring Training in 98 and was listening to Snapper
on the Pre-game show, when I realized the game was in Sactown.
I was just south of Redding and figured I could make it. Arrived 15 min
before game time, parked miles out and pedaled my bike like mad to
make it for the tap. “Blue lighter” Rider got into a fight with J. Barry and the
Blazers won. Sactown fans thought I was a loon. I explained “Blazermaniac”,
but they didn’t get it !
It's GO time !
Nice, my old username was
RememberRastaMonsta! but it acted up and I had to make a new one. BOO
Thats pretty awesome. I met him outside of a strip club that my ex worked at in SE (yeah one of those relationships.. i was young.. whatever) He was walking by to get from a restaurant to his car, and actually stopped to talk to me. He was real cool and stayed and talked to me for a good 5 minutes (which if you have ever met an athlete is truly amazing) without trying to leave. Cool dude..
Plus he rebounded like it was his lifeblood.
Side note: Met Derrick Rose a week or so ago. Very nice guy. Shook my hand like a man, looked me in the eye when talking (also hard for an athlete) and had a nice sense of humor. Soft spoken, but dude is a legit 6’4” (same height as I am) and looked pretty ripped.
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Wish more players were like that these days
Rodman before he went psycho, Buck, Rasta..
Guys who know their role and excel at it. The best we have now is Reggie Evans
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I met BG
at… the dolphin I think? It was in Milwaukie on along the Strip strip. Might have been dolphin 2?
Cool guy. Was a nice treat for the bachelor to be able to shake his hands. He actually wasn’t too drunk to remember at that point.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I love how everyone's fond memories
Of Brian Grant always involve a strip club encounter, yet Z-Bo and Darius got murdered everytime they went to a strip club. Different situations SOMETIMES, but usually it was exactly the same.
Grant was a cool guy.
Mortimer
I met in in Cabo San Lucas
while he was playing for Miami (all star break). He was surrounded by an entourage of nice people and only one pretty girl. I think that’s the difference betwixt him and the others. BG was having fun, being a nice guy, the others were trying bone girls and look cool. Can I say bone? Sorry if that’s too much.
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BBBBOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEE
rawr
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Well I was at the strip club, he was just walking by
And as much as I admired him, not sure I wanted BG in there looking at my lady…. again now that I look back i wish he had gone in and seduced her.. get her outta my hair
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I never had an issue
with the strip clubs. They’re legal. That was one topic I rolled my eyes over when Zach got busted. People grieve differently. I think I actually defended it and I hated zach.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I saw BG coming out of Costco
The “old” Costco in Tualatin, which is now the Blazer’s practice facility
I didn’t bother him
small correction
the old costco in Tualatin is NEXT to the current Blazer’s practive facility. The old costco is currently a sports club. The practive facility is a completely different building, right across the street.
Dolphin is in Milwaukie
right on McLoughlin. It was the best landmark to tell people how to get to my high school—just turn left at the Dolphin! Ah, Portland. I randomly discovered the Dolphin 2 in Beaverton years later, as it’s next to the Uwajimaya. Only in the Portland area would a strip club get a sequel.
I heard the book was better
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
okay, that's the one then
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
then there was
coco 2
and Tommy 2
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
on ye Kingsmen!
I was waiting for someone to catch that.
Lunchy list !
All time favs.
1. Maurice Lucas
2. Buck Williams
3. Calvin Natt
4. B. Grant
6. Kenny Carr
7. Pryz
It's GO time !
No pre-weirdo Rodman?
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by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Rodman never a Blazer
GO says " Sir, you fornicated vertically…observe the consequences!
by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2008 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Barrett's Take
The Trail Blazers do now own the 27th pick. It won’t be officially announced, but it’s ours. Don’t expect them to pick at 27. That pick was purchased to be moved. And, at this point, I’d be very surprised to see the Blazers pick at 13. They’ll either move up, move back, or move out. Pritchard told us there are multiple deals on the table to do any of those three things.
Portland is going into this draft with five picks. If I had to guess, I’d say the Blazers will come out of the draft with two players. And, they’ll likely give up a player or two off the current roster in the process. I do think the roster will change today, in other words.
On the chance that Travis Outlaw gets traded, Pritchard said it will “take a hell of a player” for them to even consider that.
http://mikebarrettsblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/clock-is-ticking.html
BINGO, BANGO, BONGO
Another Barrett gem
GMs around the league use the media like crazy right now, and even gauge fan reaction by floating trades.
That one amused me immensely.
"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." -- RIP George Carlin
why the heck would you be looking at fans
seriously, if they’re competent… you have your plan book out and you ALREADY have a feel for what fans think of various moves, but sometimes the fans are WRONG!!!
no wonder some GMs are so bad.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Sorry !
I respected his effort, but HATED him, the Pistons & Bulls. Total freakin’ Blazermaniac
since 75’. No other team/player exists. The coach repects GAME though.
It's GO time !
Yeah I didnt like him either, but I sure respected the way he made sure all rebounds were his
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Rodman is one of those players
that if he os on your team you love him but if you are playing against him, you hate him.
He is a bit of a showoff, but he wasnt really ever in trouble with the law, although some of the things he did were weird or rude he did play his heart out on the court.
Not when he first came in the league though...
He was a normal guy.. really shy by all accounts, never spoke.. but apparently the fame went to his head
And I wasnt a fan of the guy, but I really respected that he took a blue collar job and made it his singular goal to get the ball every time. If rebounding were scoring he would have been 10x more popular without the antics
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I respected
his ability to rebound. I thought he was a knucklehead and it took jordan to slap that man into place.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Harris is the guy
I think D Harris should be our target
He’s a proven player with alot of upside
Can guard any PG in the league (except CP, no one can guard him)
Can give us 10-12 Pts/ 7-10 Assists a night
We can still use Roy at point in crunch time if necessary
I too am a Harris supporter
When I watched him with Dallas in the playoffs a couple of years back, he played Nash and Parker well. His defense stod out to me.He is a flopper though. But if those flops are in our favor, who cares!!!
I third that!
We get a proven veteran PG that is only 25, can play lock down perimeter defense, play without the ball, shoot the 3, and coexist with Roy. Fills almost all of our needs all at once!
by BustABucket25 on Jun 26, 2008 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhh FOURTH?
yeah.. what they all said
I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 26, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I've posted this like 3 times...maybe no one is listening
say it with me everybody….chauncey billups
o yea, and devin harris doesnt fit our every need…just cuz he doesnt bring toughness. Losing Jack, we lose that…Billups is like mr tough guy with a lot of class..I want him to help raise our youngsters so bad
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love Billups, but
IMO I think we would have to give up too much to get him. I would have to disagree about Harris’ toughness. i always thought he played defense like a gnat, and plays with some chippiness. He definitely does not have Billups’ toughness, but toughness he has.
Chauncey "Old Man" Billups?
You’ve got to be kidding me. I don’t disagree that this year he would be perfect, but come the time when we’re competing for a title, he’s too old. He’d cost too much, and give us too little. Now, if you can get us a 25 year old Chauncey, then that’s a whole different story!
And with Oden, I don’t think toughness will really be an issue…
by BustABucket25 on Jun 26, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yea...but by then, we'll have our pg of the future..
and he’ll have taught our young guys a thing or two…
BTW, I believe our pg of the future iss either CP3, or raymond Felton
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
ok
now you’ve lost me. CP3, not going to happen. And Felton? I’d rather keep Jack, thanks.
felton was the man back in college...dont forget that
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
he routninely torches jack btw...about every time we play them
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn't everyone?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
suprisingly, jack is a tough hard nosed team defender. I've seen him D up
so…not exactly. He usually torches himself stepping on the sideline
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
WE dont care about college
we care about how they are in the NBA.
Felton will never wear a Blazer uni nor will Chauncey.
Felton is not that much of an upgrade from JAck and Chauncy will take Roy, Oden or LMA to get.
LOTS of people torch Jack so your arguments dont hold much.
Billups is too injury prone
I just think with his injury history it wouldn’t be worth it. Harris can really compliment the pieces we already have. I think it would set us back at least a year if we draft a PG now, we have enough guys still developing, we need them to begin to blend. I was lucky enough to be at the game in ‘77 when we won it all, I’m ready to see another one!
by PHXBlazerFan on Jun 26, 2008 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
people talking about him as dispensible now.....
will be eating their words after he knocks down a couple game winners in the playoffs…
DONT TRADE OUTLAW…Nobody can guard him…Not even Kobe
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
we want CP3 next summer...he really fills our every need.
Say it with me everybody…..Chauncey Billups
KP make it happen
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
CP3 next summer has 0.0% chance of happening
Give up the ghost man.
that's not true
lets be honest… EVERYTHING is possible… but some things are more likely than others.
.1% chance.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Harris
is definitely a good move depending on what we give up. I’ll be pretty darn happy.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
agreed
If we come out of here with Harris and all it costs us is Travis OR Martel, some picks, and some of our other deep backups (Frye, Jack, Sergio, etc), then that is a HUGE pritschslap.
how can you say "all it costs us is Travis"....that's a potential allstar, and Roys best friend on the team
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
because
Devin Harris is a starter, and top-10 PG in this league. Travis is a 6th man and questionable fit with the rest of the starting lineup.
You trade bench for starters every time. And you trade a marginal starter at SF for an average or better starter at PG every time too.
bottom line...I think Outlaw helps us more against the lakers because he matches up with Kobe
devin harris will make a difference…But that takes away maybe our best matchup on Kobe..
We need to keep that in consideration…the lakers right now are our greatest threat
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
matches up with Kobe on which end?
he can defend Kobe, or he can challenge Kobe on offense?
his length bothers kobe...ive seen it time and time again
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
kobe is less effective with a quick, 6'8 or 6'9 guy guarding him
bookmark it, right it down….
a little off topic, but on the same lines…bowen is a great defender, but he cant guard kobe because he doesnt have the length..he’s not really a risk to block his shot
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
also, harris will never be an allstar....outlaw on the other hand..
dudes got potential
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i guess we'll agree to disagree
I think you are way too high on Outlaw personally. We’ll check back in a few years.
All I need to know about Devin Harris
I knew when I read somewhere, right after D got traded, that Tony Parker said he was glad he was gone because TP felt like D was the only guy who gave him fits. If that’s not reason enough to get him, I don’t know what is. Especially when Roy will be guarding the bigger guards (CP3 and DWill).
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
roy will not gaurd CP3...
why? because harris cannot guard a 6’7 shooting guard. Neither can our other point guards…..this is why we need chauncey
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Bayless vs Augustin
according to Chad Ford’s latest mock draft Bayless is dropped all the way to #12. I wonder if we trade picks with Net and we got #10, perhaps Bayless & DJ Augustin will both be availible. I think Bayless would be a good steal in #10 but there might be a reason he slip so much.
Do you take Bayless over DJ?
sweet... thanks
I’ll need to use this when i get home.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Sweet I just heard that too!!
Everyone to ESPN now…LOL
stupid all around
same old talking head crap, Oden is brittle, what if he never plays, blah blah blah
also
please mind the language, gents, as per Dave’s prior requests.
Oden's leg lengths
I saw some where someone was saying Oden has one leg 1 & 1/2 ” longer than the other. I have not heard this from any credible source. Does anyone have any info the put this rumor to rest?
Yes.
It’s ok, as many big young men have disparities in leg lengths.
Most people have uneven legs. Part of the growth process.
- Not an MD, but studied human anatomy & physiology.
It's GO time !
if I recall correctly
the team medical staff said last year that the difference in leg lengths could be easily corrected for with a shoe insert, and most likely did not contribute to his knee injury. Don’t have a link, though.
Gallinari??
NBADraft.net’s latest mock speculates that if the Blazers are able to move up to #5 they would take Gallinari (over Bayless, Alexander, Gordon etc.). I don’t know that much about Gallinari – he seems skilled but I can’t see moving up to 5 to get him, although to do so it’s likely one of our other SFs would be out the door.
T Minus 1 Hour and counting!!!
Let the games begin!
I'm catchin' up reading the comments
Hee hee
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Good luck
I have been trying to catch up for like 3 hours. This is a fun day to be a blazer fan
I looked away
Now I’m behind again
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
i have a question
what do u think it will take to get shawn marion
A hole in the Head !
It's GO time !
by walkoff41 on Jun 26, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
When it comes to that particular matrix...
I’m taking the blue pill.
by EngineerScotty on Jun 26, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I like his defense and intangibles but.....
He does not fit our culture. I have been dying to say this..LOL
It would definitely have to involve RLEC for the numbers to work though.
oh no!!
haha im going to have to stop updating this page every 3 minutes in about 40 minutes, then sit in relative agony until i can get home and watch this tivo’ed draft. AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH…
veteran point guards worth thinking about...
Chauncey Billups…..........my favorite
Steve Nash (not likely)
Baron Davis…....most talented/character questions
Andre Miller….....solid dude
Jason Kidd….......aging too quickly/no jumper
not sure if i’m forgetting anybody
I would take Dre Miller anyday.
He is a class act and a hard worker. I swear he torches our guards everytime they come to the “Garden of Oden”
Chauncey Billups…….......too old and expensive
Steve Nash — too old
Baron Davis…….ballhog, too expensive, too old, not a team player, shaky D
Andre Miller……..old, old, old no 3pt shot
Jason Kidd……....Old no 3pt shot
Better:
Hinrich-—good age 3pt good D, team player
Harris---Good D questionable 3pt but real expensive
kidd
has NO shot… never mind the three.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
true
the thing is that it would take a lot to get one of those players that would not get us a championship. We do not need a playmaking PG as KP has said before.
I agree with you
and the only one i want on that list is Harris.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I would lock him in the gym and not let him out
until he hit about 10,000 3pters first though, but he is gonna be spendy, and probably out of our price range. Draft pix would be cheaper IMO.
SpyderRyder...dont be stupid. Every team needs a playmaking point guard..Just sayin'
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't call him stupid
I like it when he comes up with things and he might stop if you call him stupid.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Dont worry this guy wont stop me.
But its good to know you got my back. If you need a place to stay, you got one in me since you are a hobo. You can stay in my garage if you want. HAHA ;-p
I appreciate the offer
but I’m committed to dumpsters. Not really sure how to decorate a garage
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Actually,
one definition of stupid is continuing the same thing over and over, even if it doesn’t work.
Not that this applies to spyder.
Plus he has a decent point. Were I able to select from Miller, Billups, Hinrich and Harris, I probably go with Harris. But I would be fine with any of this group. In fact add Beno Udrih to the list.
The big question is, what am I willing to give up to get one of them.
Never mention Italian and Slovene in the same sentence...
... unless you are referring to the obvious superiority of Slovenes to Italians.
good point
the assumption is that we have to give up a lot, but what if we can snag those guys for next to nothing? Suddenly you do it because the mentor aspect is an excellent point.
Billups for Jack, sergio, and McRoberts… i’m all over that. Of course that won’t happen, but i’d do it.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
yea my bad....no negative intent spyderryder...
but we do need a guy who pushes the tempo….roy isnt that guy
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I tend to agree
I’d like someone who can be quick and Roy isn’t htat guy. My question is can Rudy be that guy or can we snag that guy in the draft?
Speedy, defense, 3pts, and distributor are the traits of my perfect point. I don’t expect all that but I want someone who can do most of those.
Oh, and good BBIQ.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Can you say Devin Harris
I am stealing a page out of your book BroyTheTruth. ;)
yup
that’s why i like him. OH…. and the last thing is he needs to fit our time frame.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
no name calling please.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
What IF ???
We get our man ? And then I wake up in a POD in gelatinous
goo and realize I’m in the MATRIX. NOOOOOOOO
VAAAAAT ?? No Trailblazers ??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
It's GO time !
Brian Hendrickson's take on #27
an intersting take on his blog
The other thing that tells me that pick was not acquired for a specific player: It was purchased too early. Kevin Pritchard is a GM who keeps all his moves to himself until the last minute to shake loose late-breaking deals. If he wanted a specific player with that pick, he would have waited until today to make the deal and have it be contingent on that player being available. It is not likely that he would tip his hand like this. Instead, I think the pick was purchased to dangle all day on Wednesday and see how it changed the trade landscape, then put it in play sometime today to make the deal the Blazers really want to do. That fits in better with Pritchard’s style. Remember, he is not the type of general manager who will settle for his second option this early. He will spend every remaining minute working for the deal that gets him the player he most covets, and will only turn to option No. 2 after time has expired.
i just heard
that we r going to #3 to get oj mayo the question the raido station is asking would u accept him as a blazers despite the character issues
tell me what you think
well
it is the radio im not sure of the source but would u like him
radio station channel
and show name would be good. that’s what others have done when stating. Helps others know so they can tune in and it gives us something to go back on and lets us know what podcasts to search for.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I think
he’s talking about Canzano. They are asking callers if they WOULD take Mayo if we could get him. It’s all hypthetical. Nowhere did they report we have any deal in place.
ah
Canzano says it all.
Okay, i shouldn’t knock him too much, but yeah, that’s just surveying not actual reality.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
I would absolutely LOVE MAYO
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
possible trouble with the law
I heard it was him in the study, with the lead pipe.
Maybe it was his french cousin,
Mr Dijon, or perhaps his asian cousin, the one that goes great with that chinese pork…..mmmmm that has got me hungry now.
Sorry man
i just wrote almost the same thing. Should have kept reading. We really should be able to delete our comments
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
I'll take mustard over mayo any day.
Unless we are talking tuna salad.
Of course I don’t think I’ve ever tried tuna salad with mustard.
Didn't he kill someone in the
library with a pipe. Not sure that’s the kind of character we’re looking for
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
of course
If KP is drafting him, then it’s all smoke.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
the whole taking money.....hyping himself....blah blah blah...bunch of bs
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He is a confident guy, and I really do not care about the money thing. I think the rules need to be changed, but that is better saved for another thread and another day.
plus
last I heard he took hardly anything and it was mostly people around him making bank.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
here
he slaped a ref, got caught with weed he excepted gifts to go to usc i personally dont want him
you mean...
the ref that fell over when the wind blew at him?
I admit there’s a lot of smoke, but no fire which is why I’ll trust KP’s judgment on this one. I’d take him.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
yeah but
after all the jail blazer stuff i dont want to risk that coming back and ruining all the good progress that we have made in the passed years
If KP drafts him
it’s all smoke.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Agreed
This is a situation where, regardless what we hear filtered through the media, KP is always going to be better informed/knowledgeable about the strengths and weaknesses of the players. KP’s got the “golden gut,” they say…
not so much his gut
but the amazing amount of homework he does. He’ll have FAR more information and frankly the media goes for the hype instead of hte truth A LOT!
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
yep
i was just referencing this article. PA’s words.
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1214450730320150.xml&coll=7
I know that reference was made to his gut
but that’s like saying that people are born with talent. In reality it’s the hard work that lets people become stars.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
Maybe he can catch a ride ...
To the draft room with Mousey & Sheed in the …
YELLOW HUMMER !
It's GO time !
401
We don't NEED the draft. -Mortimer 6/18
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jun 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
maybe not
We don't NEED the draft. -Mortimer 6/18
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jun 26, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I just got Henry to fully support the Honor Terry Porter movement...
He is in definite agreement that Porter’s jersey should be hanging from the Rose Garden’s rafters.
We don't NEED the draft. -Mortimer 6/18
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jun 26, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
TP = Class act !!!
Autograph rookie year – Preseason game in Medford.
Soft spoken, great guy ! Loved the rainbow threeeeeee !
It's GO time !
will there be
a seperate thread on the main page when the actual draft starts where we discuss the actual picks as they happen? anyone know?
Ford's latest Mock draft
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-080626
AMAZING how much is changed. Less than a week ago Gordon is going 10th. Now he is going 4th. A week ago Bayless is going 4th, now he’s going 12th! CRAZY stuff.
Ford has the Blazers getting Augustin without trading anyone. That would be cool. If Bayless is available at 10, however, that will be super tempting.
It would be nice if someone kept track
of mock draft predictions and then compared them to actuals. I’m curious as to accuracy rates. At a guess, I’d say they don’t do very well.
Repost (felt its important): I feel like i need to end this pg debate once and for all...
At pg, we need a playmaker (anybody who says otherwise is crazy). Court vision is the number onetrait of any legit pg….So basically, we need a guy who pushes the tempo, runs the break, and gets everybody involved. Also, he needs to be able to play really tough perimeter D..enough stay enough in front of CP3 and push him to where help is…he needs to create turnovers that lead to transition buckets….he needs to be able to knock down open threes, and when people close out he needs to go to the hoop..he needs court saavy…..also, he needs to be able to score 20ppg if nobody double teams him..
let see…anything else?....he needs to get along with Brandon…and also feel comfortable throwing the lob to Lamarcus and greg..It’d be nice if he was tough enough to guard shooting guards…
O yea…..Most importantly….He needs to be a leader. People need to look to him, and trust that he will make the right decision with the ball…..
Roy is great, but we need somebody who brings that element of quickness to the game…ala CP3.
I think Devin Harris fits the bill...
Defensive pg, nice stroke with 3pt range, with the speed of Barbosa
Broy is like MJ....
But even MJ had scottie pippen bring the ball down court…You need two leaders on the perimeter. one just need to differ to the other
by BroyTheTruth on Jun 26, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree...
that is why we need to trade our picks and pickup a solid proven PG that fits our window. And in case anybody forgot, we have Oden!!
so...
Harris?
We have Roy to lead and Oden.
Also, you should add “time frame” to your list.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
NEW MOCK DRAFT
now chad ford says dj agustine will slipto us at #13 wow
It's time! It's time!
we’ll finally see what actually happens. Anyone think we’re gonna be disappointed after tonight?
Hooorraaay
there’s finally something on TV. I love you guys soooo much. I wish I could hug every single one of you. Has anyone heard from amlmart?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
955thegame.com
you will get the blazer’s inside view
955thegame.com is carrying it. so is 1080thefan.com
both are following the picks live i think
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
in 19 minutes
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone may have said this, but it bears repeating...
...these dozens of mock draft sites must hate KP and PA. Just think-those dudes spend an inordinate amount of time coming up with their scenarios, and every draft day you just know the Blazer’s front office will throw some wild surprises into the mix.
And, if nothing else, all those trades in ‘06 had the happy effect of rendering Stephen A. Smith permanently ridiculous in the eyes of any thinking fan (for that alone, I’m in Pritchard’s corner). 25 minutes to go: let the madness begin!
Seriously
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
that sounds like a Fanpost trade
instead of floating ideas to gauge the fan reaction, looks like Riley was taking fan suggestions instead.
Pat Riley is a loser
That which prematurely arrives at perfection soon perishes. - Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-95AD) Roman Rhetorician, Critic
But, he still looks good.
Riles the Dictator to the mirror, ” I look GOOD. Hey everyone, come and
see how good I look !”
It's GO time !
Yep
He said that was the best deal he knew about on the table and he is convinced that means KP has something even better up his sleeve. Also saying the Blazers REALLY love Augustin.
If he has something better
I can’t wait to find out what it is.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ChiTown has Rose
for now
SoSays ESPN
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
thats before KP gets the pick in the next 18 minutes
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
Ya gots dat right
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by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So Cruel!
Argh! How could I have been so stupid to have scheduled a date for tonight (I’m in Boston).
Hopefully the restaurant we are going to will have a T.V. at the bar, that I can take extended “bathroom breaks” to…
I have to watch the KP wizardry!
RIP CITY! (Been gone for two months and now living in the land of the Celtics, but will ALWAYS be a Blazer!)
I can dig it
GO BALZERS!
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the glasses look on Mayo
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
45 minutes until it starts?
More waiting? Ugh.
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I'm feeling Bayless for us
- defends the other team’s point
- plays off the ball in the half court set, ready to hit the spot-up 3
who is listening to 1080?
there was a summary of Quick’s talk. What is it?
what about this
i just heard the gerled wallace is getting shop he is making a little over 9 million but he is a vet and good what do u guys think
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