One final vote: Outlaw vs. Webster poll... SF Banter.

by Portland Dynasty on Jun 25, 2008 11:28 PM PDT

This is the hard question for me, if we really have to throw in a chip to get a player like Devin Harris (and I am not talking about trading either Outlaw or Webster to get a draft pick, but a player like Harris or Heinrich), which budding forward would you personally rather see stay with the Blazers for the long run?

Personally, I'd like to see us walk out of this draft with both Martell and Webster locked in as Blazers key cogs for the future. BUT, these are obviously KP's best chips to play. So if he needs them, he might use them. And I hope Portland doesn't loose both on draft day as that would be a huge blow to the PDX fanbase, I think.

If we trade one, I am certain that James Jones33 would want to remain in the Red & Black, but if we keep both I can see JJ33 wanting out. Which would be fine.

Any Small Forwards that you would like to replace either Outlaw or Webster if they are moved? Any other PTB small forward thoughts? PG has been the biggest topic, but it is gameday so lets talk SF too.

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I'd like to put down a third option that says keep both, but for the sake of argument... If a major trade comes down to one final piece that is either Martell Webster or Travis Outlaw which player would would you rather keep on Portlands roster?

please keep #8, the Prototype, sweet shooting Martell Webster

63 votes

please keep #25, Mr. Electric, dunk master Travis Outlaw

96 votes

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Nicknames...

I know we have had this topic tossed around a few times, and honestly I never weighed in. But, if you want to remind us what nicknames Bedgers came up with for these two ballers that would be great. Here are mine:

Martell Webster, the Prototype
Travis Outlaw, Mr. Electric

What do you think?

by Portland Dynasty on Jun 25, 2008 11:31 PM PDT reply actions

I like Troutlaw myself...

Just seems to “fit” Travis….

As far as Martell goes, I’m offended that he’s allowed to wear number 8. What ever happened to the respect for “That six-eight great from Michigan State…number 8! Steeeeeeve Smith!”

Loved his Mark Mason introduction. I remember those days…ahh
From Portland’s Wilson High and Aaaaaaarizona—number 3! Daaaaamoooon Stoudamire!

Then you had his….AaaaaaveedoussassSaaaabooonnnnis! all one long word and drawn out.

Then Pip he would do all choppy

Scot-tee Pip-pen!

continues reminiscing about the Jail Blazer glory days

"Beards--they grow on you"

by prezofdeath on Jun 25, 2008 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Link to Travis Outlaw Should Never Be Traded Post...

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/5/27/540587/travis-outlaw-should-never

This was a good read from a month ago and never got rec’d, but the topic is very alive now that it is war room time.

by Portland Dynasty on Jun 25, 2008 11:34 PM PDT reply actions

June 20th post Travis vs. Martell link

There was no poll on this previous post, which is why I created a new post. SO, maybe before you click that button to cast your official vote you remind yourself what others have been saying here:

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/6/20/555414/travis-vs-martell

by Portland Dynasty on Jun 25, 2008 11:37 PM PDT reply actions

I want both of them, but went with Trout because of his southern drawl...

and it sounds like him and Roy are BFF’s, I dont want roy to lose his BFF…

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jun 25, 2008 11:38 PM PDT reply actions

Travis Outlaw

He’s sweet, he’s tenured and he’s tall.

Also, he has a better contract (re: Dave’s Martell/Frye/Jack imbroglio) and is clutch.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jun 25, 2008 11:48 PM PDT reply actions

Cripes

Personally this is one of the toughest blazer polls I have ever had to answer!
I love them both and would hate to lose either but if i’m gonna keep one its gotta be…..martell. With the team we are assembling i’ll take martell(the lights out shooter and potentially very good defender) over travis(the close to unstoppable one on one player)

by JamesHollywoodRobinson on Jun 25, 2008 11:57 PM PDT reply actions

I Hear Ya

When I have my wakeful-night-dream-fantasy lineup, it’s Blazers running the old-school fastbreak non-stop, and I think Martell fits in better with that than Oultaw. HOWEVER, I started out as a casual fan a scant year-plus ago and IMMEDIATELY connected with Outlaw. Not for his dunks (I think they’re overrated) nor his wingspan (good for a boxer, but it doesn’t a great basketballer make). What sold me on Outlaw were his contradictions: longevity and youth, toughness and finesse, stubbornness and poise. I know many, many casual fans who are enamored by Roy, Oden, etc., but unilaterally the eyes of every single person I know light up when Travis’ name is mentioned.

I think that counts for something, and that’s why I choose him.

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Jun 26, 2008 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

My hero. rec

"Besides, AnntheFan will be here any minute to #25 you." T Darkstar

by annthefan on Jun 26, 2008 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions

Also recced

As a basketball analyst, probably Martell. As a fan, I keep Travis.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions

You know...

That’s exactly where I come from.

I don’t believe Webster wants to be here because I think he wants to be the man… so… that leans me towards Trout. Otherwise, based on only an analytical perspective, I go web-head.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions

Both. Neither my father nor my mother.

The Midnight Rambler

by amlmart1 on Jun 26, 2008 12:10 AM PDT reply actions

I've always called Outlaw

T-Bone. Me and a friend have been calling him that for a couple years.

by Jason3123 on Jun 26, 2008 1:17 AM PDT reply actions

Keep Martell

He’ll be Ray Allenesque. Trout is great, good in the clutch, I’d hate to let him go, but if we need to trade either of these guys to get our starting PG, I’d keep Martell.

by LMA on Jun 26, 2008 3:05 AM PDT reply actions

I like T-Law .... voted for him too.

by TwoDeep on Jun 26, 2008 9:01 AM PDT reply actions

Martell

he works better with other players, travis is all about getting his own shot, which is exciting, but not good for the first unit. especially in light of the fact that james jones opted out i think both will stay but with more minutes martell will just hit more shots, where as travis is either red hot or having a bad game

by blackandwite323 on Jun 26, 2008 9:20 AM PDT reply actions

You're right

that’s why I’m surprised he’ll be playing more at SF, unless it’s all a smoke screen. Travis did well backing up PF.

I guess we’ll see.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions

Keep Webster

if we trade him, we will regret it…. big time

by raging WebTed on Jun 26, 2008 10:41 AM PDT reply actions

Keep them BOTH

Both were drafted by the Blazers, developed with the squad, tight
with the chemistry and positives that abound. The key difference is that
Martell has bought into Nate’s desire to be the stopper. Defense wins
championships. GO/Smooth/Pryz inside, Martell/BRoy/? Westbrook? on
the perimeter. TO/Rudy/Frye/JJ (White unit) will outscore the 2nd team
opponent ! Nuff said.

I WANT MY BLAZERS BACK ! GET A DEAL DONE COINCAST !!!!!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Jun 26, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions