Enjoy the Day!
Hey, hey, hey! Time to join in the fun as all of Blazer Nation celebrates "We Love the GM Day"! If there's ever been a more exciting staff in terms of being able to do anything, anytime, anywhere, with anyone I haven't seen them. This is sure to be the highlight of the summer.
You should probably enjoy the festivities even more considering the draft, now beginning to dwindle in importance to us compared to years past, is about to fall off of a cliff into complete obscurity. If things go well we'll be looking at low picks in no time, with little or no need to trade to adjust or improve the roster. Those of you who have been around long enough to remember names like Alaa Abdelnaby and Reggie Smith know what I mean. I can't even begin to guess what writing through the summer is going to be like in that atmosphere. How do you do 180 variations of, "Wow...the Blazers are pretty darn good"? Oh well, I'm sure Kevin Pritchard would be quite content making my job exponentially more difficult.
But that day is not today. Tension is sure to build as 4 p.m. Pacific approaches. You may use this as an open thread to discuss all draft matters until then. As far as I've been able to ascertain there's no clear-cut direction for the Blazers yet. Standing pat, moving up, moving down, and moving out for a veteran are all possible. This is quite a change from the last couple years when, if you didn't know the exact pick, at least you knew the general range and goals. Of course that makes things even more interesting, eh?
I will be here at 4:00 to open up the draft-time thread and discuss the proceedings. Until then, to kick off the pre-draft talk:
The Indiana Pacers and Toronto Raptors have agreed to a deal sending Jermaine O'Neal to Toronto for T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, and the #17 pick. Now Toronto has a matching set of power forward-centers: yesterday's and today's. Indiana now has two formerly-excellent point guards. This move would have been the blockbuster of the year three seasons ago. Now it seems kind of like odd parts for both, with a few more pieces to Indiana and an attempt to match Boston's firepower for Toronto. Seems more like a headline-creating trade than a difference-maker to me.
The Charlotte Bobcats have acquired the 20th pick from the Denver Nuggets for a later, protected first-rounder. Denver is now out of the draft. The write-up says Charlotte GM Michael Jordan is enamored with the depth of this draft. That could mean it's really deep or it could mean there are at least twenty players available who will be better than Adam Morrison. In either case this would appear to dim Portland's chances of moving up into the high lottery based on draft picks alone. Were it possible Charlotte could certainly cut in line first as 9 and 20 trump 13 and 27. Unless, of course, the Bobcats have targeted a player who would still be available at 9.
I cannot remember a draft where so many lottery picks were so in flux (and possibly available). Enjoy sorting it out. We'll see you at 4:00.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
NOTE TO ALL: Since we've hit 100 comments in this thread and it's not even 9:30 yet we're closing this thread and moving the discussion upwards to the two threads above. This will keep things better organized.
Please keep draft discussion in the comment section of the main page threads today to avoid overrunning the Fanpost sidebar with duplicate posts.
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Weren't we supposed to know the future of James Jones today?
Me thinks that could have an impact on how KP decides to move forward…
WHAT’S IT GONNA BE, JJ, WHAT’S IT GONNA BE?!?
We don't NEED the draft. -Mortimer 6/18
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jun 25, 2008 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they're going to let him walk if he wants to be signed now
So JJ33… whatcha gonna do… WHATcha gonna do?
If we trade away webster, I REALLY will be wanting JJ33.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's gone...
we’ll miss you James Jones
by The Graduate on Jun 26, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I liked the guy
too bad because he was the perfect role player.
I can’t blame him though.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not "gone"
He opted out. We might still re-sign him. Jason Quick said in some podcast that he thought he might sign out with the intention of signing a new deal with Portland. He likes Portland, we like him…if KP thinks it’s wise, I think there’s a good chance he’ll be back.
by Harry Manback on Jun 26, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't happen
unless WEbster is gone.
I think I pointed that out as well in another post.
We won’t resign him unless Webster goes though. my prediction.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he opted out
he’s now an unrestricted free agent
by futurenba23 on Jun 26, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So MW or JJ or new blood?
How does this all work out? (sound of steam escaping from my ears as the jam-sandwich gears of my brain squish and whirl … )
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DRAFT TIME!!!!!! LETS GO GET ?????!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 25, 2008 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm so excited
I have to work until 4:30, but I’m going to RUSH out of the office. I love draft day these days.
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by mark twain on Jun 25, 2008 11:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
I have class until 4:30, and then I’m bookin’ it.
The draft show starts at 4, right? The first pick won’t be until 4:20 or so, right? I hope so, because that’s what I keep telling myself.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 25, 2008 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RUSH out of the office, ehh?
The only thing I have to worry about is RUSSELLing up some grub tomorrow in between commercials.
LOVEd your pun by the way.
"Beards--they grow on you"
by prezofdeath on Jun 26, 2008 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Want some mayo on that sandwich?
If KP is going to hook other GMs into the deal he wants, he’ll have to bait ‘em.
Sorry for the Beastley puns.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will put a ROSE on my dinner table
Just dreaming ;-)
Coach, I promise I wasn't running hard ...
by Norsktroll on Jun 26, 2008 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wind is a-gustin'
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who let Chris Berman in here?
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 26, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, it's an Airplane! reference.
Of course. I’m an idiot.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 26, 2008 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why I like my boss
He let me adjust my schedule to allow me to get off early so I won’t miss a thing. Even got to allow time for traffic.
by bigdaddy4838 on Jun 26, 2008 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Working all day and all night tomorrow...
Ouch… but I will be getting updates from a fan who gets off at 4:00. I can’t wait to see what happens tomorrow and beyond.
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
by tssbro on Jun 25, 2008 11:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We dont live in Idaho Dave
It’s only 11:49 and you posted this at 11:37
You must live up near Moscow in N Idaho right? Cause people say they live in Boise or they live in Idaho, at least all the people I know from Idaho. Cause in Idaho theres basically Boise….and the rest of Idaho.
by SpyderRyder on Jun 25, 2008 11:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nampa rocks the house
Ok not really
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jun 26, 2008 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let the pritchslappin' begin.
I expect at least one forehand and one backhanded pritchslap before it’s all over…
Get ‘er done, KP…
GO BLAZERS!!!
Get busy livin', or get busy dyin'. -the shawshank redemption.
by pdxborn on Jun 25, 2008 11:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Know Nuttin' yet
I am slow but it’s early.
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 12:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fan vs Friend Question
Ok, so I have a draft day predicament I thought I would put forward to everyone. One of my good friends, and fellow die-hard blazer fan doesn’t get off work until 6 and wants me to record the draft and wait until he gets back so he can watch the draft with me. At the same time I kind of have a problem not watching the draft live and worry about finding out about early round picks before I can watch it. So whats your opinion? Better decision to watch the draft recorded with a friend, or live with some other guys to preserve the suspense?
by JCook on Jun 26, 2008 12:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two hours?
You’re going to have to isolate yourself from all outside contact. Difficult, but doable.
I’m not sure I could do it though.
If it’s any consolation, keep in mind that the moves the Blazers make are likely to be with players we’ve discussed ad nauseum, which does not include the most important guys on our team. The players we’re likely to get back are probably not going to be headliners. In addition we may not see moves at all until July 1. It’s not like you’d be missing the Oden announcement if you decide to delay.
—Dave
by Dave on Jun 26, 2008 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
If we’re going after Harris, it probably won’t happen until July 1. Which means that we’ll be drafting for NJ, and the picks will appear to make NO SENSE to us.
It might be a really fun day/week.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not fun.
I had to wait about eight hours after the Roy/Aldridge draft to watch it. I couldn’t believe how tough it was to avoid TV, radio and the internet!
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 26, 2008 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry pal ...
It’s live TV for a reason.
It would be like revisiting an orgasm in memory. ... maybe that’s taking it a bit far.
Um, it would be like … watching live TV on tape.
(help … I’m simile challenged today.)
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 5:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like
watching the blazers win the finals, but watching it 2 hours later after everyone else knows.
Frankly, i think it’s anti-climatic as I want to be sharing that moment live with EVERYONE and watching/listening to all the reactions live and having everything over analyzed.
Speaking of which… any SLC people here? I’m either listening online to the draft and blogging or heading down to the bar as I don’t have a TV. If there are any secret blazer parties at 5pm SLC time, I’m game.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SLC
SLC? Does that mean California (Sucky L8kers-Clippers) time?
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salt Lake City
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm "visiting"
SLC for a few years. Makes going to all the games I’d like tough as tickets cost me about $350 round trip for flight and a game. Luckily some games are free, but still…
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In NYC
I really only go to Blazers/Knicks and Blazers/Nets games. Both are fun-filled with Red and Black uniforms in the crowd. Also caught Blazers/Hornets in N.O. last year. Almost got beat-up after the game by some Hornets fans (I had better seats).
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get that
fans are silly sometimes… almost… fanatical or something.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
friends are overrated
you can always find more friends
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jun 26, 2008 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're a true friend
You would be calling him every at work every two minutes to let him know what is going on and what he is missing out on.
by bigdaddy4838 on Jun 26, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BIG mistake by Toronto.
They had a danger named TJ Ford and trade for a danger named Oneal. BIGS are far more fragile and a TJ Ford serious injury probably would be an ending career, giving at least cap space to the team, while Oneal´s new knee injury would be probably a dead weight for Toronto´s cap space.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jun 26, 2008 12:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Other factors, though
They had to make Calderon happy. That’s handled now.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That´s my idea too.
They should have done a sign and trade using Calderon as a trade piece to get something really good.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jun 26, 2008 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heeeeeeeeyyy!!! Alfy
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOORE !!!
52:55 minutes, SPAIN 1, Ruskies Gotta Goose Egg
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Liz, finally 3-0.
We´ll play the final. Not that bad.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jun 26, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Hope I can watch all of the BIG ONE.
Italians or germans, I forgot who won.
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
it was all about him because I’m telling you the blazers would have been snagging him.
Also, I’d rather have O’neal than TJ. any player that complains about playing time publicly needs to go.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Jones
Way to have completely blown over a pretty substantial portion of the Blazers offseason. Do we have James Jones, or did he opt out? Seriously people… someone in the know has to know by now. His deadline has come and gone, yet I’m still sitting here without a single clipping about it. Something has to give.
If he decided to stick with us, my dream scenario has us coming out of the day with Devin Harris. It’ll probably cost either Outlaw or Webster plus 2 of these guys(Frye/Jack/Blake/SRod/#13/#27), but we’d then have our franchise PG that is excellent both on the defensive and offensive ends.
My favorite prospects of the day include:
Ajinca, Batum, Ibaka, Dorsey, Chalmers
My nightmare scenario is anything that involves us getting Richard Jefferson.
by as11osu on Jun 26, 2008 12:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's 7:15 AM and no word yet
95.5 Is reporting they have been trying all morning to get the official word out of PTB offices, but getting nothing yet on the status of James Jones.
The Oden Era, Day 365
by Heymoe on Jun 26, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Jones opted out
95.5 The Game just reported that James Jones opted out of his contract for next year making him a free agent. Thats too bad, would’ve been nice to keep him around!
by TGreen on Jun 26, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
he’s gone then.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the update by the way.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave - thanks for being the traffic cop!
Someone needs to do it around this place. It will be like Bombay in here on draft day!
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on Jun 26, 2008 1:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Chad Ford mock version 7.0
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-080626
Quite a few changes it seems, more than I expected… but none more curious or thought provoking than his prediction that Bayless falls all the way to TWELVE, to the Kings.
He had us likely picking DJ Augustin if we trade to #10, like the rumors suggest. Does anyone think we pass up Bayless for Augustin if given the chance? Bayless was always slated to go to the Sonics or Knicks before, and I’m surprised to see him fall so low… aside from having the arms of a normal person and not a normal NBA freak, he seemed pretty dang good and was enough of a PG to play alongside Roy.
I fully admit I am not an expert on the kid, however.
Augustin’s size worries me, though I will think he is awesome if we move up to draft him.
I still say this draft is a lil’ overrated, and I’m not sure who I’m crazy about in it… but this is where the complete trust in KP comes in. If we had McHale as our GM, I’d feel like we already lost. No matter what we do, I have complete faith it was the right thing to do.
This will be extremely interesting, if only because it can go dozens of different ways.
So, Bayless seemed possibly out of reach before, what does everyone think of the kid? Is he Arenas-lite? Is he a Monta Ellis with potential for defense? Can he defend? Can he PG it up?
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 26, 2008 3:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd be a good fit beside Roy.
Better than Augustin. Now if Augustin had an “e” at the end of his name, then I wouldn’t be able to pass him up, as he would be named after one of the West’s best early church fathers.
But remember, this is from a guy who has never watched either of them play, and has watched Roy play maybe five times so far.
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by T Darkstar on Jun 26, 2008 4:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good defender
Good fit. As good as Augustin is (and he’s probably a better pure PG), I think Bayless might actually be a better fit for us. I’d take Bayless over DJ if we got the chance, for sure. I can’t believe he’ll fall that far.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much rather have Bayless than Augustin.
If he slips, I’m suddenly in favor of that rumored Nets trade.
Not sure if I buy his mock though, why would the Grizz take Eric Gordon?
by howlingfantods on Jun 26, 2008 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't you be in the draft room?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on Jun 26, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Bayless in P-town
and find it a little curious that nobody around the blazers has talked about him. Its also interestng that the guys KP suppposedly wants have all shot up the draft board. It makes me wonder just how good KP is, what if all of the Westbrook/Augustin/Alexander love was to cause Bayless(KP’s target all along) to start sliding down the draft. If KP could pull something like that off, we should all bow in whenever in his presence
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 26, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
If bayless is good, yes.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAVID LEE TO PORTLAND?
My hometown paper, the New York Times, is reporting a rumored trade between the New York Knicks and our beloved Blazers:
Blazers get: David Lee + 6th + contract
Knicks get: 13th pick + 27th pick + player (“Steve Blake or Jarrett Jack”)
I’m not proposing it, just reporting it. Yes I think this would be a record-setting awful trade for New York, a Pritchslap of such force that it would register on the Richter Scale.
My guess is if a trade like this is in the works it involves a really bad contract like Marburry’s, and we’d have to give back a better player than Jack, or maybe Jack + Outlaw. This would seem more reasonable, and while still a Pritchslap at least the Brooklyn Bridge wouldn’t be threatened by aftershocks from it.
by matthewcc on Jun 26, 2008 5:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear God.
This would be dumb of them.
RipCity -- now, now ...
by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at past posts
There was a new york rumor of zach and webster for frye. We all thought it was dumb then too because we didn’t know about the other parts of it.
I think this New York one has a good chance of happening and that Allen will be spending some cash again.
Might as well because I don’t see us snagging any free agents in the future.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa!
Go KP! Keep slapping NY until they’re out of players and draft picks worth slapping for.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 26, 2008 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats pretty much already the case
Lee and the #5 are pretty much the only two assets we would want from NY, leave it to our man KP to milk that cow dry…
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 26, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
How could the Blazers not do that deal? 6th pick would most likely be Westbrook, according to Chad Ford’s latest mock draft. If the Knicks would do that, then wouldn’t they prefer to do a deal with Charlotte? 9th, 20th + ? for Lee + 6th + contract.
by PoliSam on Jun 26, 2008 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
I… ummm… wow…
then we trade David Lee to chicago for Rose and parts.
How do you NOT do this?
There has to be something else because that’s completely one sided. We walk away with Rose AND Alexander.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
Marburry. He’s an issue and I suspect we’d need to buy him out. Then you’re looking at a huge cleansing for New York, a tank for a season or two and D’Antoni gets to build his team from ground up.
Obviously I go for it if Paul will pay, but I have to admit I feel a little dirty paying like that. When it happens, hopefully no one really believes we’ll actually be PLAYING Stephen like people thought Francis would see a blazer uniform. Not happening.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
missing something here
How do we package David Lee for Derrick Rose?
by douglast on Jun 26, 2008 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i don't even try on the details
KP knows way more. We’ll Chicago will throw in parts, and so will we to make things match Salary wise.
Chicago NEEDS a post player. They now have it. We don’t need that, so another move is the only thing that makes sense.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
after looking at it, we’ll be the ones needing to toss in spare parts, and that works even better.
How about Sergio, webster, and lee and we get back rose and a spare part?
We have then cleared house, spent money, and chicago gets a player they really need who should blossom on a team without Zach, Webster who I think will be huge, and sergio who has potential but won’t hurt them if he sucks.
I suppose we could let go of alexander and give them the sixth pick if they gave us a future first rounder.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think ratbastird is getting a little pritch-slap happy and isn't being serious.
by tweener on Jun 26, 2008 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
I’m serious.
I predicted we’d snag rose. I still say we can do it and with the #6 pick AND Lee… I think it’s happening.
Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624
by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok you are nuts then if you think that will happen
I’ll own it with a big smile if I’m wrong though
by tweener on Jun 26, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would just like to...
...congratulate you in advance for your GM taking advantage of our FO and landing the point/lead guard of your future. I don’t know how it will happen, but I’m fully prepared for the inevitable scenario where you guys end up with Mayo or Bayless and the Wolves get Ajinca and possibly a cupcake. :)
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 26, 2008 5:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You sell KP short
You only have the third pick. What makes you so sure he isn’t aiming higher?
Of course, maybe he’ll take Chicago for #1 and then rip you guys off as well. Like taking candy from a baby.
If you didn’t call yourselves “wolves” people might feel sorry for you. It all goes back to Little Red Riding Hood.
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by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you seriously bragging about the size...
...of someone else’s…well, you know?
I think if he gets the 10th pick, a Mayo + Toine’s contract for Pryz + Webster or Outlaw + 10th pick makes more sense for everyone involved if the Wolves can’t move up and grab Beasley. Mayo is the perfect fit across from Roy. Moving up to Chicago would likely be too much of a cost when Mayo and the Wolves could provide more value. Minny gets the hometown kid to play across from Big Al as well as a nice young wing that y’all seem to have in spades. They then turn around and draft Gallinari or Ajinca.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 26, 2008 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I won’t be surprised at all if we come out of this with Mayo, unless Miami grabs him. And I actually think that trade you proposed would indeed be good for both teams. We’d have to get a backup center somewhere, and that would hurt us, because we love Pryz here.
But I think Mayo’s the real thing. I don’t have confidence in his personality, but think he’d probably do ok with the good citizens we have on the team.
And yes, that would really help you guys, too. Given that, it probably won’t happen, KP will probably rob McHale blind. Just since you seem to be a nice guy, we’ll all feel bad about it for 5 seconds or so before we start to gloat.
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by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way that the player would be Blake or Jack
I don’t see why the Knick’s would even consider that… moving down seven spots and giving up David Lee for #27 and Blake or Jack. It would have to be Webster or Outlaw (for the Knick’s sake.) If this deal goes down as reported… I think my infatuation with Kevin Pritchard will become a full blown man crush.
by Salem Stephen on Jun 26, 2008 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be too
We’re going for Rose and Alexander. I’m telling you.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think Mayo is the perfect fit for Roy?
I’m not criticizing you… I just don’t understand it. Both players prefer to run the offense. Both guys seem more suited to guard SG’s as opposed to PG’s. From his interviews, I think Mayo wants to be a star in a large market (#4 option in Portland wouldn’t be that.) He may be the most talented combo guard that we could put next to Roy in this draft… but I think guys like Bayless, Gordon and Westbrook would be better fits… though obviously a step below Mayo in talent. Do you really see Roy and Mayo playing well together on both offense and defense?
by Salem Stephen on Jun 26, 2008 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do...
...Roy has more of a dribble-drive penetration game where he can get into the lane and to the line. One of Mayo’s big weaknesses in college was his reliance on the deep ball and his inability to get to the line. He’s a solid perimeter defender who could provide size against small 1s and quickness/athleticism against big 2s. He’s also a guy that keeps perimeter defenders honest. I think the Heat are looking at a similar situation with Wade; they need a guy to hit the open shot and provide a fair amount of ball handling skills for the periods of the game where the lead guard (Wade/Roy) aren’t going to have the ball in their hands.
I’m not a big fan of thinking a team needs to have a traditional point guard. I think the big thing in a modern backcourt is to have a balance between offensive capabilities as well as defensive flexibility. Wade + Roy = a huge backcourt that could defend a lot of different combos (all the way up to some 3s) as well as provide a ton of matchup problems on offense.
I think Mayo wants to win and Portland would likely give him the best option to do that quickly. If Seattle moves, y’all have a nice chunk of the country where he could get all the spotlight he needs…especially if he signs with Nike.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 26, 2008 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
“wade + roy” should read “mayo + roy” ...stupid brain farts.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 26, 2008 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well...
if you really want to give us wade…
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that you have no confidence in McHale
and with good reason. That trade sounds pretty fair right now, but in a few years when Mayo shows just HOW GOOD he is, you’ll be choking. If I’m Minny, I wouldn’t do it. There’s no future in Minny for that trade unless Martell just freaking blows up. That’s a possibility, but probably slightly less likely than Mayo going huge. If there’s some way to save Pryz from the deal (I doubt it since he’s part of the PR for the trade), that would be the best trade ever for the Blazers. I already feel bad for you and will continue to do so. Why don’t you just come on over and be a Blazers fan? We’re similar markets, similar fan cultures, but have a much brighter future.
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by hobobob on Jun 26, 2008 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
...about Mayo. I’m just not convinced that he’ll be much more than 10-15% better than Randy Foye, and when the squad has grabbed 2 6’4” guards and a 185 lbs shooting guard who can’t shoot or dribble in the last 3 drafts, and when they’re looking at a Madsen/Jefferson/Gomes frontcourt…well, Mayo just doesn’t sit right with me as far as the Wolves are concerned. I don’t believe he’s the BPA at 3. I have him ranked out closer to Mario Chalmers than Derrick Rose.
I’m kind of 1/2 kidding about McHale. I think a lot of went wrong here in Minnesota had to do with the owner not being able to say no to either McHale and/or KG and the MO for the last 3-4 years was to band-aid together a lineup to appease KG on and off the court and it just didn’t work out. It was nice to see KG get the title, but it wasn’t exactly a warm fuzzy because he’s the guy who drove things like Troy Hudson, Juwon Howard, Trenton Hassell, and Joe Smith.
McHale has made some colossal FUBARs in the draft. Wally instead of Rip, Will Avery, Paul Grant, Ebi instead of Kendrick Perkins, Barbosa, or Howard, Foye over Roy, and Brewer over Noah. However, there has been a change of culture here in the FO with Hoiberg and Babcock finally getting heard on equal footing as McHale and the squad’s post KG moves have been solid. They’re cleaning out salary and bad players (the trade with the Heat was brilliant) while gathering assets. Soooo….while McHale is open for a lot of ribbing (especially since his entire basketball worldview is encased in the ember of the 86 Celtics), their FO has a balance it hasn’t had in a while and they have played their hand vis-a-vis Miami perfectly this year.
If Beasley is there at 3, they win the draft. It’s that simple.
If Beasley is gone, then I love the idea of trading with the Blazers for Pryz + Webster (maybe the Finnish kid too) and whatever pick y’all end up with. Let’s say that the pick ends up being Alexander or Gallinari.
This means that the Wolves walk away with a lineup of :
Foye/Jaric
Webster/Brewer/McCants
(Alexander/Gallinari)/Gomes
Jefferson/Richard
Pryz/Richard
They then take 2 Euro big men (Pekovic and Asik) with their 2nd rounders and tell them to stay in Europe for 2 years while cap space clears. Meanwhile, they enter the 2009 Draft with 2-3 1st rounders, stashed Euro bigmen, and guys like Foye, Shaddy, and Brewer to throw into a package that could net them someone like Tyreke Evans, Ricky Rubio, or Demar Derozan (or another player that makes a name for himself).
They could turn this thing around in a hurry and as bright as a future as the Blazers have, I think the Wolves could be a pretty damn decent team in 3-4 years if they play their cards right in the next year or so.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 26, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting stuff
and I think you’re right that the Wolves could be all right. In three years time, even the Garnett trade may look pretty good.
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by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like you
I’m thinking of joining your blog. How do you feel about fart humor?
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by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well trade you jscot for wyn
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by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2008 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well
It’s a business, after all.
As long as I have a chance to reach my potential. It’s only so long before I rule the world, you know, and I’ll have to put all this blogging stuff aside.
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by jscot on Jun 26, 2008 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry West, Tom Penn, and the temper tantrum
In an article about new GM Chris Wallace, the Memphis Commercial Appeal has this anecdote.
A Western Conference executive pointed out that while Wallace’s mistakes have been among those commonly made, he has earned his keep in the NBA because the general public isn’t in tune with how collaborative many draft efforts can be with scouts, coaches and owners often involved.For example, the Griz took Hakim Warrick at No. 19 in the 2005 draft. West wanted Gerald Green.
But when Green went to Boston at 18, West stormed out of the room and declared with expletives that he was done. That temper tantrum left the Griz on the clock and with subordinates discussing the pick in the war room. By many accounts, assistant general manager Tom Penn convinced the room that Warrick falling to 19 meant a team drafting late in the first round would try to trade up and acquire him.
The Griz took Warrick as an asset on Penn’s advice.
I really laughed when I read this. Can you imagine KP doing this? You just can’t go into the draft counting on getting a particular player unless you are #1. And to have a temper tantrum? How professional.
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by jorga on Jun 26, 2008 5:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerry West has always seemed prima-donnaish to me
To be fair I never saw him when he was younger and less bitter.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jun 26, 2008 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I reckon
if I were turned into the logo I’d feel a bit swelled.
Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)
by LaughingJon on Jun 26, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Jerry West is a genius!
Having Kobe Bryant refuse to play on any other team because he wanted to have the exposure of LA… pure genius.
Have Shaq refuse to play on any other team because he wanted to have the exposure of LA… pure genius.
by lyleleander on Jun 26, 2008 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now!
I’ve got to stand up for the man. He engineered the trades well in advance that led to them having the draft picks that landed Magic and Worthy. It would be like the current Detroit team having had the rites to draft LMA a couple years ago and now having the #3 this year and still having a team competing for championships.
He did stuff in the late 70’s and 80’s that was amazing and that Pritch can only aspire to. He earned the genius label long before Kobe and Shaq.
But with his being a Laker I can understand any animosity felt by Blazer fans.
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by LaughingJon on Jun 26, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may have been ahead of his time
but the logic of competition destroyed him. Competitors adapted to his strengths and he failed to adapt. KPs maneuvering in a much stronger GM world and thriving. He make get complacent, but we’ve yet to see that. At this point, KP is much the better GM. However, KP is what he his because West was so good. It’s the same reason Kobe’s as good as he is because MJ came before him. Comparing them in a vacuum is impossible because one probably showed what could be done.
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by hobobob on Jun 26, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I’d take KP or the Logo in a heartbeat today. I was more talking about West’s legacy and why he’s been called a genius. He’s decades past his prime but we all get past our prime eventually. And KP does aspire to the number of rings West’s manage to get – and more..
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by LaughingJon on Jun 26, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops,
I meant over the Logo.
Free Joel Freeland! (with the purchase of 1 Wafer)
by LaughingJon on Jun 26, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nets
Here’s a rumor from Hoopsworld. Maybe you’ve already seen it:
“There is some truth to the idea that Portland will trigger a draft day deal with New Jersey. The way Nets sources classify this is that if the players the Nets covet start dropping off the board, a deal in which Jarrett Jack and Portland’s pick at #13 (and possibly a second rounder as well) gets sent to New Jersey while the #10 and Marcus Williams gets sent to Portland. Nets sources say they have several deals like this on the table…”
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by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 6:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I got a gut feeling
That KP is going to trade Petteri Koponen.
Here’s the link.
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by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2008 7:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Too much Finish beer
Kopo looks terrible in that photo. I had no idea!
He’s more like the Helsinki Barrel than the Finish Flash of my dreams.
(I actually did have a dream last night that all the NBA “experts” were lauding Kopo as the great point guard of the future and how lucky the Blazers were to have him. I’m taking this draft too seriously I think.)
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by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, I'm so happy to hear
that I wasn’t the only one having draft related dreams. We’re kind of pathetic.
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by hobobob on Jun 26, 2008 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
if we pick up a pg, then Finland is going. Roy, Rudy, and X is all we need there plus back-up in blake.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somethin's Brewin' in Milwaukee
I can feel it in My Gut.
belch!
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by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 26, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Sonics take Lopez at 3 I'm gonna laugh
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by leeroyjenkins on Jun 26, 2008 7:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope this happens.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 26, 2008 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
did a trade happen?
Aren’t the Sonics picking fourth? Do you mean the Timberwolves?
My first thought is to laugh as well; but then again after Rose, Mayo, and Beasley it becomes quite a crapshoot. Lopez might be the best bet to give you a solid player. Low bust, low boom probability.
by matthewcc on Jun 26, 2008 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade
new jersey gets #13 #33 jack. Portland gets #10 and maurice ager if he is still there we are going to draft DJ Augustine
by BLAZERS#52 on Jun 26, 2008 7:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've seen a bunch of variations on this
well, variations on the player we’d have to take back. Sometimes Ager, somtimes Marcus Williams, sometimes Trent Hassel.
by matthewcc on Jun 26, 2008 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still say
Augustin is not there.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if we do nothing today aside from shuffling 2nd rounders?
We draft a Euro project #27 and Brandon Rush at #13. Would people be disappointed?
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by blzrfan on Jun 26, 2008 7:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
this has to be the option of last resort. Whoever we draft at #13 is figthing to be the 12th man, while Raef, McBob, and Sergio are on the inactive roster and Jack is sitting on the bench sulking because all his minutes went to Rudy.
by douglast on Jun 26, 2008 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not gonna happen.
I have a strong suspicion we got the 27 in order to package it with the 13 and move up… possibly with
another player added (Lafrentz’s expiring contract?).
With the talent so deep, 27 is pretty valuable this year. You can get potentially get someone like Chris-Douglas Roberts, Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbert (although Hibbert is less likely).
This is gonna be an exciting day. I’m so glad Pritch is in the driver’s seat for us. By the way, speaking of Pritchard, did anyone hear Quick talking about how he was dying to draft C. Paul, but was over-ruled by Steve Patterson and John Nash? How can you not love this guy?
by lyleleander on Jun 26, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not going to happen
disappointed? probably not. I really think we’re just one key piece away from the championship team. I do think that KP will pick up that piece this year though.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 20 players better than Morrison?
Ohhhh…You mean 20 players with mustaches that are better than Morrison
2-4 the who
by 24thewho on Jun 26, 2008 8:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what we do
im tired of us drafting euo’s players and keeping them over there what i want out of this draft is to our clear stating five
by BLAZERS#52 on Jun 26, 2008 8:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Portland is Blazin
Funny how 4 of the 9 trade talks on ESPN’s Rumor Page are about our Blazers.
by Kelsoballa on Jun 26, 2008 8:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Toronto Star reports that the Blazers offered...
by RoyDrexler on Jun 26, 2008 8:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHA
I think it was mentioned that KP flat out said no to that.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
That would be a better deal than what they got, I think.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read carefully; the reporter may have been filling in blanks
The beginning of the story in the Star says that the Trail Blazers tried to get back into the Ford sweepstakes, without citing a source. Then later in the same story, here is what is cited as a source:
According to league sources, Portland made an offer that included Channing Frye and Martell Webster. Both of them have contracts that expire at the end of the season…
My guess - obviously, it is only a guess - is that Portland did make that offer—but for Calderon, not for Ford. Toronto, wanting to keep Calderon and move Ford, then took Indiana up on an offer that presents much greater risk to the Raptors than the players Toronto would have received from Portland.
Just a guess, that’s all.
by monkeysuncle on Jun 26, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and THAT
makes a lot more sense.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blazers were after Ford.
Toronto Star reports:
“Jermaine O’Neal was too enticing a proposition for the Raptors to pass up. With health concerns from both sides eased, a blockbuster trade involving O’Neal, T.J. Ford and Toronto’s 17th pick in tonight’s NBA draft has been agreed to in principle, a significant move the Raptors hope gives them the most potent frontcourt in franchise history. Even as the Portland Trail Blazers tried to get back into the Ford sweepstakes yesterday, the Raptors decided they like the immediate impact Indiana’s O’Neal will have rather than waiting for anything they could have obtained with the draft pick.”
The reason this bothers me is, if true, KP seems willing to settle for a pint-sized point guard. I’m now worried that we are targeting Augstin. And a year or so ago KP said he liked tall guards. I do too. But I guess KP didn’t mean it.
by TwoDeep on Jun 26, 2008 9:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I SWEAR
I heard that KP turned down that exact trade.
Frankly, I’d hope so. I am NOT a fan of Ford and he’s not someone I would have wanted. Frye and Webster would be too much for him unless something else was on the table and cooking.
I’m telling you NY and then Rose.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might have tried to re-trade him
all that shows is that he’s really unhappy with what we have.
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by hobobob on Jun 26, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Rumor
Ratbastird is going to be traded to Forum Blue And Gold for an undisclosed user name to be determined later.
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by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2008 9:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be careful if I were the Blue And Gold .....
I think he’s past his prime.
by TwoDeep on Jun 26, 2008 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's lost a click or two, but ...
is deceptively quick on the reply and his spin moves are deadly.
by dogbert on Jun 26, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
I can play both sides of an argument if I want. I occasionally do because it makes things interesting.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that’s… just… mean!!!
I’m going to pull a dickau now!
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can Portland make the BIG move?
This draft is really up in the air …. so much going on. I can’t imagine how busy these draft teams are at this moment.
Theres only one thing I’m confident about concerning this draft. Rose and Beasley or Beasley Rose will be the first two picks. They’re head and shoulders above the rest.
Most think Chicago will probably take Rose, although they’ve wanted a low post scorer for a couple years now and they already have their PG in Heinrich. The heat need a PG. Will the Heat make an offer to the Bulls to get them to lay off of Rose?
I’m trying to figure out how the Blazers can get one of these two guys. We probably have the best chance of prying the Beasley pick away from the Heat.
I’m so much hoping for something like this …... I know it could cost a lot but the Blazers are in the enviable position of having a good number of accumulated assets … something not every team has.
by TwoDeep on Jun 26, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm talking about
if we can make the move with NY, then we have that low post that can get us rose and we give them some extra parts that can also help them out.
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced Rose is better than Mayo
I am convinced that most other people are convinced, though. I think there’s a bad thing happening in the NBA right now, and that’s that everyone is freaking out about PGs and over-valuing them right now. If I were involved in this draft, I’d be looking at players whose positions are currently under-valued. Stock-pile them and when eveyrone comes off this PG hi, we’ll be in position to pick up a much better PG than before.
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by hobobob on Jun 26, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps .... but even KP
has said in a podcast or two that there are two players in this draft that are outstanding, followed by the rest. I’m sure the two players he was referencing were Rose and Beasley, although he didn’t name them..
by TwoDeep on Jun 26, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Rose may or may not be better than Mayo. I honestly don’t know, but Mayo was a name before Rose came to fame.
Additionally, a couple years ago good big men were more valuable than other players, and now suddenly we have an advocate of trading away an excellent future big man (aldridge) for a point guard.
I think Chris Paul helped start this trend and I think it’s vastly overrating that position.
Unfortunately, that’s the position we need… which helps explain why all the other GMs are trending that way too. It’s not Paul, it’s KP causing the trend! Of course!!!
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by ratbastird on Jun 26, 2008 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whitewash.
If the Blazers were to get Lee, this could be the first “whitewash” in years.
PG – Steve Blake
SG – Rudy Fernandez
SF – David Lee
PF – Josh McRoberts
C – Joel Przybilla
The comedic value would be terrific.
by bleedingblackandred on Jun 26, 2008 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And ...
in the red uniforms with old-school short shorts.
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by Y5k on Jun 26, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can do that right now
with raef instead of lee and serg instead of rudy
President of the Petteri Koponen fan club.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 26, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh.
That would give us two power forwards, two point guards, and a center. I don’t think Nate would actually play that lineup.
by bleedingblackandred on Jun 26, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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