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As we know, Pritchard likes to talk about "his guys."  He says the team does its homework, makes its decisions, and based on that they have one, maybe two players up at the top of the board the team considers "our guys".  In 2006, they were Aldridge and Roy.  In 2007, our guy was Greg Oden.  They were thrilled when his best friend was available to the team as a second round pick, but McBob wasn't "our guy."

As we come up on Thursday, I've been musing whether the Blazers have identified one or more of the players in this draft as "our guy(s)."  I'm going to assume for the moment that past performance is predictive of future performance.  In the past two years, Pritchard has drafted only among the players the team has brought in to work out - no player that has not worked out for the team has been drafted (and kept).  But, to quote Freeman, "...over the past 22 days, the Blazers have held 13 private workouts and evaluated 52 prospects."  Again, just speculation here, but if the Blazers draft anyone to keep, chances are it'll be one of those players.

So that eliminates deals that involve people like Bayless, Gordon, Mayo, Beasley, Love and the like.  Those players didn't work out here.  Pritchard is not going to draft them, and he's not going to trade for them from a team who drafts them for us.

We know the team has serious long-term concerns at the point guard spot. There has been a lot of talk about the team "not getting any younger."  Well, I don't think the organization expects to win an NBA title next year, either.  So if a point guard is taken, and they get significant minutes next year, they'll be coming up to speed with the rest of the team's time line.  To my mind, this is consistent with Roy getting more minutes at point guard too, as the Quick chat today attributes McMillan as saying was likely.

There has also been a lot of talk about the team needing "veteran experience."  Players with a proven track record of playing and winning on playoff and championship teams, and of taking mentoring roles on those teams, are few and far between.  Among point guards, Billups fits the description, but he's BYC and would make for a tricky deal.  Still, it's possible.  I like Andre Miller at PG too.  Philly might be willing to let him get away for some players more appropriate to their curve.

Assuming the ESPN rumor is true, the Blazers have five draft picks now, a mid-first rounder, a late first rounder, and three in the second round.  You don't need to be a genius to know they can't draft and keep five players on the roster.  If they want to draft a point guard, I think the guy has got to be Augustine or Westbrook, and those players aren't on the board at #13.  So if they want a point guard, they're going to have to move up.  Packaging the #13 and #27 along with a player (probably one of the ones with the salary cap hold issues) for a higher pick, say between six and ten, seems like a definite possibility.  I get the feeling "our guy" in the draft this year is not a point guard, though.

People have been saying that the Blazers have a problem at small forward.  To the extent this is true, I think the primary problem is getting defensive intensity and consistent offense from the position.  Experience will help there.  If McMillan is talking about giving Outlaw minutes only at the SF position next season (also mentioned in today's Quick chat), it must be because there are going to be minutes available there, and few minutes to go around at PF.  That implies that Webster is on the way out, and Frye is going to be kept.  So I'm going to venture that the player dealt with the picks to move up, if that happens, is Webster.  But drafting another young player for the PF slot just strikes me as unlikely, too.

Among veterans, Richard Jefferson has been to the finals, isn't a relic, and is available for the right price.  He also fits nicely into the possible hole trading Webster would create, allowing Outlaw to continue to come off the bench (which he prefers).  And New Jersey is rebuilding.  He would potentially fit the culture here.  On the other hand, he's had some injury issues, and would need to fall in line behind Roy's team leadership - possibly a tough pill to swallow for an All-Star and seven year vet.

Then there's still the overseas picks from previous drafts to think about, Koponen and Freeland.  Will they be part of any deals?  You've got to expect at least a couple of the second round picks to be.  In my many random thoughts, I have one thing that I'm fairly sure of - when the draft is over, the average age of Blazer players on the roster will be older, not younger.

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One thing that has been widely unreported

Is that there was a huge multiplayer workout down at Golden State where there were representatives from 6-8 NBA teams watching, including our Blazers. The reason being is that you can’t always get guys who expect to be gone in the top 5 to workout for a team slated to pick 13. So, maybe we do have a guy in mind, and we saw him down there.

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Jun 25, 2008 2:13 AM PDT reply actions  

For some reason

my gut also says Mayo.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.' -Homer J Simpson

by Poot on Jun 25, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also

will not be surprised if this happens. I wouldn’t say I expect it, exactly.

I have no clue how KP would make it happen, though. It would cost us quite a bit, I think.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jun 25, 2008 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

KP

He’ll get Mayo for #13, #27 and McRoberts. Just watch….....Hahaha

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jun 25, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Miami might be dumb enough to just draft Mayo at #2. I can’t find the link but they did a secret workout with Mayo.

"You boys sure found a way to make the time pass up there. Twist, you guys wasn't gettin' paid to leave the dogs babysittin' the sheep while you stem the rose." - Joe Aguirre from Brokeback Mountain

by tominhawaii on Jun 25, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mayo is a better fit for them even if beasely is better potential

that’s why i think we can snag rose. So many teams seem to be out of order for their needs and player availability. We can use that confusion and doubt and offer more of a sure thing and a better fit while we’re moving up.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 25, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be disgusting

if we somehow landed Rose…......seriously, it wouldn’t even be fair.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jun 25, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously

I meant if we don’t have to give up any of the big 3.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Jun 25, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's what's gonna happen....

We’re gonna trade for the number 5 pick, draft kevin love, than parlay that into the number 3 pick…Minnesota is a bunch of saps…..OJ Mayo is all ours

by BroyTheTruth on Jun 25, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought about mayo

but I think he slows down our game. He’s easily more attainable than Rose though and I suspect he’s a good kid PLUS he’s awesome on defense. He’d help this team out right out the gate.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 25, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw at SF?

That may just be sending a message to James Jones that he needs us more than we need him. My guess is they very much want him back next year, but don’t want to extend him (at least right now) because it will lessen our cap space next summer.

So they are sending messages that we’ll be fine without him if he opts out, so don’t come asking us for more money.

If we are trading Martell, we certainly aren’t sending signals to that effect right now.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jun 25, 2008 3:55 AM PDT reply actions  

i agree

i think this means James Jones wont be getting many minutes next year and Martel and travis will be splitting pretty even

by blackandwite323 on Jun 25, 2008 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

a lot of trades have mentioned Martell, he was included last year, and I think he’s the most likely to go. Additionally He’s driven to be the best and may not feel there’s room to show that on this team. The blazers may be looking to trade him while he has value and because his drive/desire to achieve individualistic goals may run counter to the Blazer’s team goal.

I suspect marty has asked for a trade because of this and because he believes that he can be great if really given the green light on offense.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 25, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every public statement at this time of year

is made for a reason.

Why would we signal to everyone that we want to trade Martell? If we’re trading him, we want to talk up how much we don’t want to, what his value is, how good he’s going to be, have you seen his sweet shot? Well, ok, if you insist, but it’s going to cost you.

If you are going to trade him, you signal that he’s your main man.

Nate’s statement, to me, is an indication that it is less likely Martell will be traded.

Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo

by jscot on Jun 25, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

KP doesn't know how to draft point guards

He’s going to trade for a “veteran.” I expect him to go after Mortimer’s man crush or a point guard we never thought to think about, who is still on his rookie contract.

"You boys sure found a way to make the time pass up there. Twist, you guys wasn't gettin' paid to leave the dogs babysittin' the sheep while you stem the rose." - Joe Aguirre from Brokeback Mountain

by tominhawaii on Jun 25, 2008 6:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Koponen to be point guard at Summer League

During an interview yesterday, Nate said that they weren’t bringing in another point guard to play in Las Vegas, so they could evaluate Petteri. This would seem to indicate they won’t be drafting Westbrook, Bayless or Augustin

(unless it’s all smoke and Koponen is traded, of course)

by two4larue on Jun 25, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

How sweet is it...

All the Summer League games will be on Comcast! I know it sucks if you have DirecTV or Dish, but this will be our first real look at Petteri Koponen, probably Sergio Rodriguez, Joel Freeland, etc AND we’ll also get to watch Team Spain which should pit Rudy Fernandez against Team USA competition…

What a summer for Blazers basketball!

"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)

by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 25, 2008 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

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