Quick on 1080 with trade rumor updates

by myemic23 on Jun 24, 2008 7:49 PM PDT Comment 52 comments

Jason Quick was on primetime and had some juicy tidbits about what the blazers are trying to do. Isaac Ropp recapped what Quick said on his blog:

"Jason Quick, Oregonian:
Blazers in serious talks with 4 teams about trading out of the #13 pick
The four teams: Phoenix, NY Knicks, Toronto, New Jersey
Players targeted: Barbosa, Malik Rose or David Lee?, TJ Ford, Devin Harris
Offer on the table from one of the above or another East team
The deal involves the #13 and a Blazers reserve for an unnamed veteran
Potential exists for the Blazers to trade down targeting Brandon Rush @ #21
The players garnering the most interest: Frye, Webster & Outlaw
The players garnering very little interest: Rodriguez, Jack
Significant news: Nate has decided to play Travis Outlaw exclusively at SF
McMillan also committed to more Brandon Roy at PG
No word from James Jones on his player option"

Link: http://1080thefan.com/Daily-Blog/2312225

There is a lot of good info in there. Quick also said that Paul Allen commented that the proposed trade was "intriguing". I wonder who it could be for???

Nate saying that Travis is going to be primarily a small forward is also sort of interesting. That must mean they plan on keeping Frye? How does that effect Jones and Martell?

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What should the blazers do with #13?

Trade up

124 votes

Trade down

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Trade out

86 votes

Make the pick

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Harris is by far the most interesting on the list.

But it would probably take #13, Outlaw and Frye at least, if they’re the most valuable, and maybe Webster too. If a trade could be swung to get Rush, then Jones and Rush could cover SF, but that leaves us a glut of PG’s. That, and I really don’t want to lose Outlaw. His skills coming off of the bench are needed.

Ugh, I just wish we’d get through the draft already. This emotional rollercoaster is making me nauseous.

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Chaplain of the Jarrett Jack Fan Club

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by T Darkstar on Jun 24, 2008 7:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

2 more days!

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE
Watch my brandon roy vid http://youtube.com/watch?v=RC3Byp4ID1E

by CroRupt on Jun 24, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm actually looking forward to more rumor posts than trade idea posts.

Although, I’m not sure what the difference is, other than the rumors have information behind them. It may be misleading information, fed to reporters by dastardly GMs trying to feel the waters, but information nonetheless.

Thanks to Myemic23 for digging this one up!

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Chaplain of the Jarrett Jack Fan Club

"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on Jun 24, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Amen to that, brother!

SOMETHING interesting will happen.
By Friday, it’ll all be just news and history.
I’m so ANXIOUS!!!

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Jun 24, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The worst part is that Friday is the day we are loading up the moving van.

All the news, reactions and everything from the night before I am going to miss, and wont be near a computer for days.

On the positive side, I will get to spend a few weeks back in home sweet Oregon.

One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season

Chaplain of the Jarrett Jack Fan Club

"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on Jun 24, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

welcom back

Roy-curious

"In KP we trust" - all

by ptwnblzr on Jun 25, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wonder what the Z-Bo/Franchise precedent does for our rep.

Specifically, are the Blazers regarded as a team that would take on a big, long-term contract
because we’re willing to buy it out and turn it into cap space?

Or: Would we do a deal with the Nets where we get Devin Harris in exchange for taking VC,
because we, like nobody else in the NBA, would buy out a contract like Vince’s?

What would we have to give in exchange for a VC + Devin Harris package?
Worth it to NJ, maybe . . .

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Jun 24, 2008 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And might I add:

Yes of COURSE the REC would be involved in such a deal.
REC + [insert whatever here, possibly JJ+#13] = Devin Harris + a VC buyout.

DEAL . . . or no deal?!?

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Jun 24, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think we could get Harris

without giving up at least one of Trout/Web… although that VC contract IS bad.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jun 24, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow!

Do we want Harris that bad? Four more years at an average of 16 million dollars a season? Vince Carter would really have to decide to play again to make that remotely worth it.

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Chaplain of the Jarrett Jack Fan Club

"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on Jun 24, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't imagine anyone taking on Carter's contract

Even if they bought him out it still mucks up the cap space.

by raoulduke on Jun 24, 2008 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We wont buy out VC's contract

I’m down for the trade though, don’t forget Paul Allen is a big VC fan and would probably be estactic to add him, remember the party that was PA had ready a few years back when we thought we were getting him

The pictures kinda small, but Im giving the C's a big thumbs down

by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 25, 2008 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think KP has calmed Allen.

PA was a big Darius Miles fan too, remember?

Trade Freeland!

by rockingharder on Jun 25, 2008 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rush at 21

would be good value IMO.

If Web or Trout get dealt hopefully a good PG is coming in. Harris would fit the bill. Web/Frye/13 for Harris/21 would be awesome but may require getting Rod Thorn very drunk. They’d almost certainly hold out for more.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jun 24, 2008 8:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Rush at 21 is an excellent value.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 25, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

A Vince Carter buyout?

I don’t think we buy him out if he comes here. I doubt Harris + Carter is the deal, but in case it is, let’s seee how it shakes out for the fun of it.

RLEC+Webster+ Frye and/or Jack + 13 = Vince Carter + Devin Harris

The first thought before I delve into the trade and lineup is:

WHY HAS NATE SUDDENLY DONE A COMPLETE 180 ABOUT WHAT POSITION HE THINKS OUTLAW WILL PLAY FOR THE BLAZERS? I got to think about that before I speculate.

If we get Vince Carter, there is no way we buy him out. We start him at the 2 or the 3. Harris would obviously be our 1.

We would potentially have a starting lineup of Harris, Roy, Carter, Aldridge, Oden. They would be backed up by Blake, Fernandez, Outlaw, Unknown PF (Hickson?), Przybilla.

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Jun 24, 2008 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

WHY HAS NATE SUDDENLY DONE A COMPLETE 180 ABOUT WHAT POSITION HE THINKS OUTLAW WILL PLAY FOR THE BLAZERS?

Because they like Frye backing up LMA and Martell is gonzo in a Harris deal?

Harris, Roy and Rudy = decent 3-guard rotation. Blake’s minutes would take a dive

Harris is now what Westbrook might become

Jack has no trade value? Now there’s a shocker…

by two4larue on Jun 24, 2008 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah it is

I think Jack is good, on the right team. I don’t think we’re that team. I was a bit surprised too.

Ford: Bill, you're claiming victory already? Have you had a "Mission Accomplished" banner printed yet?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?page=DraftDebate-080624

by ratbastird on Jun 25, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harris is a better offensive player than Westy will ever be

Although Westbrook may SOMEDAY be better on D

I remember the good old days. The Rasta Monsta days.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 25, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and Harris has playoff experience

get ‘er done KP

by two4larue on Jun 25, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus he actually

Played really well historically in the playoffs, unlike the long-ish playoff history of Barbosa and the recent playoff play of Calderon.

Of course, Calderon should be off any of our wish lists now that TJ Ford is gone.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 25, 2008 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting stuff

Just last night I heard Wheels say that he felt that there wasn’t much chance of trading for a vet. Change of circumstances? Smokescreens?

I’m pretty sure he also said there wasn’t much interest in Jack or Sergio.

"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." -- RIP George Carlin

by Corvid on Jun 24, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

None of the points suggest anything about moving up in this draft.

Can I buy you a fish sandwich?

by silkybrown on Jun 24, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

New York and New Jersey

Are both ahead of the Blazers in the Draft and there is a rumor on Truehoop that the Nets could trade the 10th to the Blazers… perhaps as part of one of the aforementioned trades?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-32-352/Late-Tuesday-Mini-Bullets.html

by PoliSam on Jun 24, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now that we have 27

Can we dream about getting Harris w/o VC?
How about Web + Frye + 13 + 27 for Harris?

by kennetha on Jun 24, 2008 8:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

does nj still have #10 and #21?

would that give them 10, 13, 21 and 27?

by parkinglotj on Jun 24, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think its fair to dream...

...but if I’m the Nets I’m asking for Outlaw or Rudy.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jun 24, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're right

Though I think its probably crazy to even consider this deal w/o VC. Nets primary motivation is to sign Lebron, right? Biggest impediment to that is VC. If they get rid of him, they are golden. We can take back VC w/o too much pain since we’re going to be over the cap after next year anyway.

So the most logical explanation is RLEC + Jack + 13 for Harris and VC.

by kennetha on Jun 24, 2008 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Never mind, that doesn’t work. Harris makes too much. If this deal includes Harris and VC, it’s going to be big! $24M big.

by kennetha on Jun 24, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

>WHY HAS NATE SUDDENLY DONE A COMPLETE 180 ABOUT WHAT POSITION HE THINKS OUTLAW WILL PLAY FOR THE BLAZERS?

Because the new backup 4 will be Joe Alexander??

by raoulduke on Jun 24, 2008 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I predict Nate...

... changes his mind again within a week.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Jun 24, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That long?

Maybe, announcing bold new plans for Outlaw’s future is a signal to GMs or one of KPs rabbit trails, or…

by raoulduke on Jun 24, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trout.....our PG of the future

Nate, KP, all the Bedgers around the world (including Ahlmart), know that our answer at PG is #25.

I joke I joke….I really do hope we get Devin Harris. I’m willing to part with Web, Outlaw or Frye….but hopefully we only give up one of the three.

by WarEaglePDX on Jun 24, 2008 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

that sounds like a sound bite for another teams market. Sorry annthefan but that can’t be good news for you.

by parkinglotj on Jun 24, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because Webster will be traded

The only obvious reason to make Travis a full time SF is that he will be the stater, meaning Webster will be gone.

by pualo on Jun 24, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

trade up a LOT or trade out

The more I ponder this draft, the more I think picks 4-15 are a crapshoot. If we can trade up to 3 or higher, than of course we should. If not, then I say either trade down to look for value picks and/or Euro-Stash or trade out for a veteran.

if we can get Harris for Trout/Web, Frye and a pick, we gotta do that.

by douglast on Jun 24, 2008 9:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If Quick is correct, then;

PG- Roy, Blake
SG- Webster, Fernandez
SF- Outlaw, Jones
PF- LA, Fry
C- Oden, Pryz

That sounds pretty rich.

by oregonslee on Jun 24, 2008 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That is a GARGANTUAN starting lineup.

Our shortest player would be 6.6!

by premthegrem on Jun 25, 2008 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's pretty much what is on the

Blazers homepage…and I’ve often thought it would be insane if Web got a handle…

He's Coming! Oden Slayer of Giants

by Idog1976 on Jun 25, 2008 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hows this?

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4678322

Just a quick idea, probably not very ggod

by raging WebTed on Jun 24, 2008 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Prediction

We get a new point guard in a trade centered around Webster and draft picks.

Travis becomes starting SF.

We also draft Brandon Rush to put in as backup SF.

by pualo on Jun 24, 2008 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't bet against this right now

by douglast on Jun 24, 2008 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess if I want to make a more complete prediction

I should say that the PG will be Harris. But if that part was wrong and the rest was right, then ignore this part later.

by pualo on Jun 24, 2008 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My guess:

Portland ends up with Barbosa and Harris.
Phoenix ends up with Vince Carter.
NJ ends up with Webster, RELC, #13, #15, #27, cash and future considerations.

Not sure how it would happen, but Tom Penn might know…

Blazermania - It's not just for die-hards anymore.

by Blazerholic on Jun 24, 2008 11:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What's the point of getting Barbosa AND Harris?

But I could getting rid of VC’s huge contract doesn’t seem bad.

Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."

by Dheepan on Jun 24, 2008 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would be disgusting

we’d have the sickest 4 guard rotation in the A.

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by iDea on Jun 25, 2008 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I may be going out on a limb here, but an owner who sells Rudy Fernandez for cash and is already strapped with Shaq’s deal taking on Vince Carter’s salary? I’m thinking, no. And then I’m thinking, TP better get his number retired before he ends up in a straitjacket.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jun 25, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phoenix only gives up the #15 for Carter?

by begottenson on Jun 24, 2008 11:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

ehm

Never mind

by begottenson on Jun 24, 2008 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

and barbosa

by raging WebTed on Jun 24, 2008 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can they not want JJ?

There must be some teams that don’t have out of bounds lines on their courts…??

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jun 25, 2008 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

there was a conversation

about a week ago, i dont remember who they are but, one was very upset that the other would assume that sergio wasnt catchin a lot of attention, to the point of really calling out the other guy. saying that his second year performance wouldnt slow other gms down. HAAAAAHAhahaha…..hahaha….I am a huge sergio fan, but hahaha…sorry, but I have to admit he has lost value, heck I still think he could be great. I hope both of you read this. hahaha. no phone transcrips needed. haha..giggle, giggle?

Roy-curious

"In KP we trust" - all

by ptwnblzr on Jun 25, 2008 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs