PG worst case scenario

by supremepuntiff on Jun 21, 2008 9:34 PM PDT

Say the following occur:

1. we move Jack

2. BPA is taken in the draft, but is not a point guard

3. we have roster space due to a trade(s)

We now still need a point guard while we develop Petteri/make a trade/evaluate what we have.

How about Anthony Carter? He is a free agent, and his strengths are both defense a nd distributing. His offense, not so much, but I think we have enough weapons to make up for him.

This is more of a last resort, but I figured we should cover every contingency. What is your worst case scenario, and how do we handle it?

I should note I exercised a lot of restraint in not naming this post "Get Carter," but very little in pointing it out.

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Not so bad at all

Doesn’t sound like such a bad scenario at all. If we’ve moved up in the draft by trading Jack, and did not take a guard, that means we got someone like Joe Alexander. A lot of people around here would be quite pleased about that.

And in the backcourt, Roy, Rudy and Blake will consume most of the 96 minutes available. A few will be leftover for Sergio and we’ve still got our cap space to sign a star down the road.

Anthony Carter… sure, why not? We’ll surely need a veteran to fill out the backcourt.

by kennetha on Jun 21, 2008 9:45 PM PDT reply actions

Hey

nice to see your name again – you’ve been missed!

That was the main reason for this reply, but I will add that we have Steve Blake who is a perfectly adequate point guard and will suffice until Sergio or PK or DJA (naaah, we’ve already traded away last year’s small pg draftee so I don’t see us drafting another.) Anyway, let’s not trade for a just OK guy until we see how the team works with GO and Rudy in the lineup. We may discover that the need for a pg upgrade isn’t as important as some thought.

by jorga on Jun 21, 2008 9:46 PM PDT reply actions

I forgot to talk about Sergio

But anyway, the idea was if we lose Jack there goes a point (though really, combo) guard, and I do like Sergio, but relying on him as a back up does not seem like a good idea just yet; with Carter, you get defense, a Blake level starter, and a stopgap while we figure him out. I remember watching Carter matchup with Roy when we played Denver, and Carter was a beast. He is the kind of player we could use as a defensive stopgap, and as a solid veteran presence in the playoffs while we have him (I can’t see us hanging on to him for more than a year or two).

Also, I was unclear on what I meant by trading Jack: Jack is expecting to be moved, and I think we will do that, and if we don’t get a guard back in the deal, we can sign Carter who is a free agent.

Thanks for the welcome back. I never really left… It just seems that way. It’s been more finding original insight or energy to to stay really active on the board. It’s speculation time again, and I am still sort of burned out from last year. Paying more attention to draftees or summer league would probably help this, but It doesn’t look to be in the cards. I’ll probably be back more in full force during the season, or post draft, when there is fresh material to digest.

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by supremepuntiff on Jun 21, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions

We have plenty of PGs already

Even if we trade away Jack, we wold still have Roy, Blake, Segio, & Koponen. With Rudy playing at the 2, Roy will have more time to spend running the point, and some say that Rudy could play at the point as well. We would still have 4-5 players who can be point guards, and I am not convinced that Carter would be able to earn much playing time.

by trk on Jun 21, 2008 11:36 PM PDT reply actions

Stealing all of Denver's PGs is fun.

I wonder if Carter would become an offensive deadweight though. The biggest problem from what I’ve read is that he isn’t an off-the-ball player. He didn’t work well with Iverson since Carter’s main skill is passing and not finishing.

Would he be worth getting over Jack? He has different strengths and weaknesses, but I’m not sure if he would be better. I would be fine with Carter though. Next summer, we could go ahead and take whatever PG Denver starts next year (unless it’s Iverson).

by poster on Jun 22, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions

Let's trade all our PGs ...

And then we can run a lineup of

Pryz – C
Oden – PF
LMA – SF
Frye – SG
Outlaw – PG

I think Outlaw can run the point.

"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez

by bfan on Jun 22, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions

I would love to see that

Think of the possibilities:
-Frye posting up on K*be
-The Pryz to Outlaw alley-oops, the first ever in the history of the NBA from C to PG
-Oden, Pryz, LMA, and Frye running a quadruple pick-and-roll. Oden and Pryz go to the bucket on separate sides of the key, and LMA and Frye spout p for J’s.

We might have a few liabilities on D, though

by inroywetrust on Jun 22, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions

You could stop at point 1.

A. Suppose the Blazers trade Jack and #13 to get in a position to draft Westbrook; suppose the ploy works, and the Blazers do draft Westbrook. So then you have traded a 6’3” guard with three years’ NBA experience who has proven he can play PG in the NBA (though he may be better suited to “a shooting guard in a PG body,” as some are apt to denigrate him) for another 6’3” player, but one who is an unproven college player who did not even start at PG for his college team (Darren Collison was the starting PG for UCLA). And, in the deal, the Blazers would have wasted a lottery pick (#13).

B. Suppose the Blazers trade Jack and #13 to get in a position to draft Augustin; suppose the ploy works, and the Blazers do draft Augustin. Now you have drafted a shorter guard with three years’ less NBA experience for a taller guard with experience. Remember how taller PGs used to post up Damon Stoudamire? As the saying goes, you can’t teach height. And, again, the Blazers would have wasted a lottery pick.

C. If you are in love with Westbrook for his D, then you draft Marcus Dove—a lock-down defender who also can guard SGs and SFs, with one of the second round picks, and keep both Jack for experience at PB and the #13 pick for filling the deficiency the Blazers have at SF.

by monkeysuncle on Jun 22, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions

Phew.

I read this headline and thought, “Oh, Portland’s worst-case PG scenario. That would be if Blake and Jack were both traded and we didn’t get a PG in return, leaving us with Sergio and PK to go into the season with.”

Yuck. KP knows better than that.

Trade Freeland!

by rockingharder on Jun 22, 2008 4:47 PM PDT reply actions