Blazersedge Mock Draft
by Dave on Jun 13, 2008 1:28 PM PDT
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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the 2008 Blazersedge Mock Draft. Watch this space all day as the draft evolves, and don't forget that you will soon vote to help determine which player the Portland Trail Blazers select!
1. CHICAGO Derrick Rose 6'3 PG from Memphis
The Bulls' GM explains: I believe Rose is the better pick for us in this draft. He is a better all around player, and a local favorite. I believe that Rose and Gordon side by side in the front court I very explosive. By picking Rose, our assets in the 1 and 2 can be used to trade for players we need in other positions in the future.
2. MIAMI (traded to Seattle) Michael Beasley 6'9'' PF, Kansas State
Miami's GM: The Heat have not lost sight of the incredible freshman season Beasley put together for Kansas State. We think he is a one-of-kind low post talent, who will pair together well with Dwyane Wade. Together we believe they will develop into the one-two punch most championship teams have, and along the way put the butts into the stands and the team in more national television spots.. which this franchise sorely needs right now. We just think he is the best player in this draft, at a much-needed postion on our team.
NOTE: Despite the praise you just heard, there are rumors swirling that the Heat may have taken this pick to trade it. We'll have to find out whether that develops.
3. MINNESOTA (traded to New York) O.J. Mayo 6'5'' G, USC
The 'Wolves GM says: The Timberwolves believe that Mayo is the third best prospect in this draft and has a legitimate shot to be a star in the league. He is a good shooter and scorer, can handle the ball some, and can play defense. We have some young guards already and he just adds to the mix. Once we decide who fits best on our team we can decide who to trade or let go in the coming years.
4. SEATTLE (Traded to Miami) Jerryd Bayless, 6'3" PG/SG, Arizona
The Sonics' GM: The Seattle Supersonics feel that Bayless will be the perfict fit along side Kevin Durrant. With them together we are sure that we can keep-up with any team in the league when it comes to scoring from the guard positions. Plus, with Bayless' athleticism combined with Durrant's length, we believe defensively they will prove to be a pair hard to match-up with. He is s strong shooter, a flashy scorer, and a stellar athlete who can use his skills to penetrate and dish the ball for high assist totals in the NBA.
5. MEMPHIS Danilo Gallinari, 6'9" SF, Europe
At first glance seeing Memphis' line-up with Darko Milicic at center, you think "Man, Memphis needs a center is a big way." But, Darko was decent this year, and they have another international center prospect coming in the next year or two in Marc Gasol, who they are apparently very high on. Since Memphis has two picks (#'s 5 & 28) they want to add a player who will fit in well. They have three promising guards, future star Rudy Gay at SF and sharp shooter Mike Miller. Adding point-forward Danilo Galinari to pair with Gay would give the Grizz some dyanamite wings who can play with the ball and be threats from all over the court. With that #28 pick they hold, Memphis will target a PF or post player.
6. NEW YORK (traded to Minnesota) Kevin Love 6'9" PF, UCLA
The Knicks' GM says: Kevin love has a tremendous presence on the court, and has shown that he is a dedicated athlete. He is a player who understands what he will be expected to do once he arrives in the league. When we brought him in to work out we were amazed by his ability to break down his defender while also showing a plethora of mid to deep range shooting moves. He brings leadership to the team, and we are positive that once he starts on an NBA regime of strength and conditioning that he will turn into a serious force in the post.
7. L.A. CLIPPERS (traded to New Jersey) Brook Lopez, 7'0" C, Stanford
The Clips say: We have Brook Lopez graded as the third best player in the draft and are ecstatic that we were able to acquire him with this pick. We believe he will be the dynamic low post scorer for years to come.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a TRADE to announce!
The Minnesota Timberwolves have sent the draft rights to #3 pick O.J. Mayo and forward Antoine Walker to the New York Knicks for the draft rights to #6 pick Kevin Love, forward Renaldo Balkman, and forward Malik Rose.
8. MILWAUKEE Russell Westbrook, 6'4, PG, UCLA
The Bucks GM: We believe Russell will provide us with immediate help for our defense, as well as the ability to get into the lane and use his great speed to create shots for both him and his teammates. He also provides us with some flexibility in the backcourt, as we may be looking to re-shuffle our roster over the next year or two. We had hoped Gallinari would be there at 8, and explored possible trades to move up, but were unsuccessful in finding a deal that was mutually beneficial.
9. CHARLOTTE Darrell Arthur 6'9" PF, Kansas
From Charlotte: We need a power forward in the worst way. An old Nazr Mohammed and a rickety Sean May are not enough to help Emeka Okafor. Darrell Aurthur is the most well rounded and NBA ready power forward on the board. We do not need another forward tweener since we already have Gerald Wallace in the 3-4 position. Backcourt help would have been nice too.
Expert Commentary from the Media: This is the first pick that really left me scratching my head. The 'Cats should have selected Anthony Randolph or DeAndre Jordan, who are both somehow still on the board at number 10 now. The 'Cats could have used a bigger post player to pair with Okafor.
10. NEW JERSEY (traded to the L.A. Clippers) Eric Gordon 6'4" SG, Indiana
11. INDIANA DJ Augustin, 6-0, PG, Texas
The GM: Our team needs a pointguard, and although Westbrook was our first choice, we believe Augustin has the ballhandling, shooting, and confidence to lead our team. Augustin, Granger, Dunleavey and O'Neal look to lead the Pacers back to the playoffs.
12. SACRAMENTO Anthony Randolph 6'11" PF, LSU
GM Notes: we are thrilled to pick up a talent like Anthony at the 12 spot. Not only do we think he can come in and be a solid contributor for us next season, we believe this guy’s upside and potential could make him the steal of the 2008 draft. Putting him on the court with the scoring and athleticism we have at the wing positions should make him a great asset for us.
Note: A report coming out of Sacramento has them looking to trade away Anthony Randolph before his cap even settles. Stay tuned.
13. PORTLAND Joe Alexander, 6'8" SF, West Virginia
I'm going to save the GM notes on this one until after the draft, as we have several pages detailing the draft process that you'll be interested in. For now we'll just report that Alexander was #1 in the popular vote and on two of the three ballots of the Blazer brain trust. (He was a narrow #2 on the third.) More later.
GM Notes: Could you find a better team for DeAndre Jordan than Golden State? At this position in the draft Golden State is thrilled to be able to add amazing athleticism, speed, and length at the center position. The upside of Jordan is ridiculous, and with NBA trainers we believe he will add the bulk to become a dominant center while keeping his inherent speed that is necessary to the way Golden State plays. With Beidrens to help teach him footwork and Golden State's guards having the ability to actually get him the ball, we believe he will have all of the skills needed to become a dominant offensive center in 2-3 years. With his added bulk and what has been desribed as "pterodactyl"-like wingspan his defensive skills will see a large jump upon entering the NBA.
15. PHOENIX Brandon Rush, 6’7”, SG/SF, Kansas
GM Notes: Brandon Rush will step in and start from day one for us. He can shoot, slash to the rim and he plays solid defense. Phoenix has a 2 year window of opportunity to challenge for a title and Brandon Rush is the best option to make that happen. There may be other players with more ‘upside’ left on the board, but those players also run more of a risk of being a bust. Phoenix can not afford to take those kind of chances with such a narrow window of opportunity.
16. PHILADELPHIA Donte Green 6'10'' Forward Syracuse
GM Notes: We think he has the chance to develop into a star for us a few years
down the road. With his size we project that he will become our power
forward of the future and with his athleticism and three-point range
he should fit nicely into our uptempo system.
17. TORONTO Nick Batum, 6'8" SF, France
Note: We weren't able to get ahold of the actual Toronto GM on this one, but we figured an international wing with running and scoring potential would fit right in with the Raptors.
18. WASHINGTON Marreese Speights 6-10" PF/C
GM Notes: We're looking mainly for depth, though obviously we'd like someone who could start some day. My recommendation is to look at point guard and forward, preferably a power forward that could put some time it at either the 3 or 5. Someone who can really only play the '4' probably won't see the floor much unless Jamison is injured. Also, there's a lot of good small forwards in this draft and if one of the top ones slipped to 18 I would take him. Here's the players I was targeting:
19. CLEVELAND Kosta Koufos, 7'1" C Ohio State
Note: Either my e-mail stopped working or there are a lot of GM's watching Scooby Doo instead of picking. Don Knotts is the ghost already! He doesn't want the city to tear down his funhouse for a new strip mall. In any case Koufos is a decent project at this spot and he can study under Zydrunas Ilgauskas.
20. DENVER Ty Lawson 6-0 PG UNC
GM Notes: Needing a PG, the Denver Nuggets sleect Ty Lawson from the University of North Carolina. With the backcourt of Lawson and Iverson our goal will be to simply outscore everyone to make up for the lack of D and size in the backcourt. With a lineup of Lawson, Iverson, Anthony, Klieza and Camby we have a fast, mobile group who can fly up and down the floor, add to that the elevation in Denver and a lot of teams will leave gassed and with a loss.
21. NEW JERSEY (traded to the L.A. Clippers) Chase Budinger 6'7" SG/SF Arizona
We have a trade to announce: The Los Angeles Clippers are sending the draft rights to #7 pick Brook Lopez to the New Jersey Nets in exchange for the rights to #10 pick Eric Gordon and #21 pick Chase Budinger.
Media Reaction: This is a smart trade for both teams. Brook Lopez gives the Nets some consistent post play which they have been sorely lacking. What really makes that a great move for the Nets is the fact they didn't give up anything to move up in the draft. Some see Lopez as a potential bust, but the chance to get a big man for only the cost of a late first rounder is almost as good a move as convincing
The Clippers need bodies and youth at the guard positions. Eric Gordon falling to them at 10 is a huge pickup and a step in the right direction. They may need a replacement for Maggette, so a move for a SG/SF type is a must. The extra pick in the first round should really help the Clippers build a solid team.
22. ORLANDO Chris Douglas-Roberts, 6-7 SG/SF, Memphis
GM Notes: We are delighted to be able to pick Chris and we believe that we will be able to fit in well with our group of players. His ability to step up in big games and his abilty to shot the perimeter shot will allow him to contribute right away.
23. UTAH Roy Hibbert, 7'2" C, Georgetown
Note: He is a great center prospect and has an excellent pedigree coming in from Georgetown. Hibbert was an efficient player posting 14+ppg and 7+rpg over his soph and junior year campaigns. He will be a solid NBA center, maybe not starter quality for a a few years, but he is good on both sides of the court.
24. SEATTLE (traded to Miami) Serge Ibaka 6'10" PF, CB L'Hospitalet, International
GM Notes: Serge Ibaka is somewhat of an overlooked prospect in our mind. He has a good jump shot and shocking atheleticism. He has good size and will fit nicely in the faster paced system we are trying to implement. He will be a little bit of a project, but we hope he can step in and play some minutes off the bench next year...
We have a trade to announce! The Miami Heat have traded the rights to #2 overall pick Michael Beasley, forward Udonis Haslem, and guard Daequan Cook to the Seattle Supersonics for the rights to #4 overall pick Jerryd Bayless, forward Nick Collison, and guard/forward Damien Wilkins.
Media Reaction:
This is a solid move for the Sonics. The scoring combination of Durant and Beasley will be tough to stop. The name recognition will be important for reviving a nearly broken hearted
This move puts the Heat into rebuilding mode. Selecting Mayo with the 2nd pick may have tempted the Heat to make a playoff run this season, but we saw what happens when you mortgage the future for a championship now. I think the heat have learned that there won't always be a team gracious enough to relieve you of your worst contract. The Heat will build around D. Wade, starting with the 2nd best PG in the draft.
GM Note: Bursting with potential, will be around great influence in Ming and Mutombo...
26. SAN ANTONIO Courtney Lee, 6'5" SG/SF Western Kentucky. 27. NEW ORLEANS Bill Walker 6' 6" F Kansas State 28. MEMPHIS Robin Lopez 7-0 C Stanford GM Notes: Memphis has a decent core of young talent. Once the full press to get Gasol over here works out that core might be better than decent. After drafting potential with the fifth pick, we look to round out our front court rotation with this pick. Lopez is a high motor, athletic big man who will be tough on the defensive end and showed offensive improvement over the course of last season. He'll be a strong complement to Darko, Marc, and Warrick.
With the twenty-ninth pick of the 2008 Blazersedge Mock Draft the Detroit Pistons select...
29. DETROIT DeVon Hardin 6'11" PF/C Cal-Berkeley With the thirtieth pick of the 2008 Blazersedge Mock Draft the Boston Celtics select... 30. BOSTON Jason Thompson 6'10" PF, Rider University And the 2008 Blazersedge Mock Draft is OVER! Thanks to everyone who participated.
GM Notes: Our organization has badly needed an infusion of young blood on the wing for the last several years, and we believe Lee fits the bill. He's a 20 ppg scorer who can get to the line (5.0 FTA per game) and knock them down from the stripe (82% FTs). He also demonstrates a nice touch from range, hitting two triples a game at a 40% clip -- a must from our role players on the wing. Lee is also a solid perimeter defender, thieving nearly two balls a game, and our scouts suggest he will only improve on the defensive end as he's asked to carry less of the offensive load. We're ideally grooming Lee as an eventual replacement for Bowen and Udoka, both of whom are getting long in the tooth. The knocks on Lee are his age (23) and average athleticism, but we're not looking for a project or a guy who can jump out of the gym; our core isn't getting any younger, and we're looking for a rookie who can contribute now with a savvy beyond his years. We believe that Lee's that player.
GM Notes: We feel that Bill Walker is the best player available at this point. We are looking for bench depth and realize we won't get an impact player this late in the draft.
GM Notes: Hardin fits the needs that the Pistons have for another able bodied big man, and his toughness, and presence should be a perfect complement to Maxiell, Wallace, and McDyess in the frontcourt. He should be able to contribute right away.
GM Notes: Post forward with excellent length and versatility ... Though he's already a senior, he has a developing skill set and shows a lot of upside ... A late bloomer who despite playing at a mid-major was seen as a potential lottery player by some. He'll have the best mentor in the game in Kevin Garnett. And as a senior, he should be mature enough to come in and immediately contribute to trying to get us back to the Finals next year.
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Nice pick Chicago
Way out of left field. :)
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Chicago's pick
but that is not an easy one. They really need a post scorer.
by tweener on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the pick
you should have traded it for a large expiring contract and a versatile combo guard and the rights to a finnish point guard
by 50backflips on Jun 13, 2008 9:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well as one of the Blazer's GMs
Let me say that that trade might still be available, if they change their mind.
by pualo on Jun 13, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should add the best Brittish player in ACB to make it work.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jun 13, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he the only player in ACB from Britain?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Richard Betts plays here too.
I don´t know if there are more. Last year there were two more brittish.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jun 13, 2008 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with Chicago
As much as I think this is correct in terms of what Chicago will do, I think it is the wrong pick for Chicago.
If you compare Rose and Beasely’s entire body of work from last year, Beasely was by far the better player, Rose just shined in the tournament. Add in the fact that Beasely was playing with a supporting cast that was god awful and still drug them to the tourney, while Rose had GREAT teammates and still lost to Kansas.
Add in the fact that Chicago has a gaping hole in the front court… I just see this pick as bad, bad, bad for Chicago… but I do believe this is what Chicago will do in real life as well.
/me shakes his head.
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Paul and D.Williams spotlight this year also helped Rose win the #1 pick here as PG’s are the HOT commodity in the NBA right now.
A year ago, when the Bulls played well, Kirk Heinrich was 16ppg and 7apg point guard. That is more than serviceable. They could have sucha dynamic front court with F’s Beasley and Deng, C Noah and Tyrus Thomas and D.Gooden coming off the bench. Gordon and Heinrich starting at the guard spots. That is a pretty exciting young squad to me.
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 13, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
everyone is sure that Rose is a sure thing, but he wasn’t close to the Radar as number one until the end of the season. Beasely is sure to be a star as is Mayo. I’m sure Rose will be good, but I don’t know that he’s the best talent.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of like Bargnani in the ROY draft?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
hype can over rule common sense.
I still think Bargnani COULD be good, but even a few more years down the road I don’t see him as being the best player out of that draft.
I think Aldridge will be followed by Roy, but THAT will depend upon how you define “best”.
I believe Aldridge will be packing on the Stats while Roy will remain the same but his leadership with Oden will help carry this team.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about this pick
Rose will be a great player, but the Bulls really, really, need a scorere in the post. The passed up on LaMarcus two years ago and that showed to be the wrong pick too.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
great was the only word that was supposed to be bold.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's nitpicky
but to be honest, Chicago did actually pick LMA. They just traded him straight to PTB.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 13, 2008 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind.
I knew that, just didn’t really word my post right.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the right pick at #2
but I think they might still trade him today to get a backcourt mate for Wade and another solid player.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They could seemingly trade with anyone
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wolves take Mayo, right?
Not the Heat?
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 13, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol, yeah.
Mayo should be able to help Foye with guard duties.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
And what a pick!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the Sonics going to get another big man project?
Kevin Love maybe?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this pick
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its gotta be Bayless
They still have wilcox and nick collison, plus both petro and sene are only 20 or 21 years old, and Robert Swift is 22
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Deffinatly.
They have to take him.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bayless would be a steal were he to fall.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Memphis would take him at 5,
but The Knicks would love for him to be availble at 6
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
They took him. Who will the Grizzlies pick? Draftexpress has them taking Love.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is the Love?
Haha, im stupid. I have a feeling its Love as well!
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Swift is history.
It looked like his knee is shot. Doesn’t matter how old he is if his knee is as strong as a 90 year old’s.
by timg56 on Jun 13, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Bilas checking in
The first two guys are potential franchise changers. Rose is bouncy and freakishly athletic. Beasley is a scoring and rebounding savant.
I’m not sure about Minnesota’s pick. Mayo is very skilled but Brook Lopez has such a great wingspan.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jun 13, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This may be a stupid question
But why are the picks underlined with a dashed blue line?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 9:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you're right... it is a stupid question
by NEP_blazers on Jun 13, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so they stand out
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're the first two prime numbers, obviously
I think he’s going to blue all the primes. Prime numbers = prime players. That’s why I’m glad the Blazers got 13.
by pualo on Jun 13, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
number 2 is even I thought?
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHOA!
I have been learned!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instead, he ignores you
And blues up Darko and “strength and conditioning”
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the way Presti spells his star player's name
Durrrant. He’s grrrrreat.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Memphis' picks...
Memphis has those two picks. Plus they are likely to get their prospect Marc Gasol in the next year or two to pair with current center prospect Darko Milicic (former #2 pick). I would think the best move they could do would be to go for point-forward Danilo Galinari to pair with their trio of young point guards, future superstar Rudy Gay. With that #28 pick they hold, Memphis would still be able to get a very solid PF or post player (JJ Hickson maybe?) to round out a great draft. What do you think Memphis would be best served doing?
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 13, 2008 10:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they should draft anyone!!!
Or trade Conley to us for lint.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better hurry up, CW
Or Dave Stern will choose for you.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
STERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh, CW makes the first surprise pick.
I didn’t think the Italian would go so high in the draft.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised me too
With Rudy Gay and Mike Miller there, its a bit surprising. I thought they could’ve used some frontcourt help! No question Gallinari is talented though!
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some backcourt help?
Gay, Miller, and Gallinari are all frontcourt players.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gallinari with #5?
Ouch, should have traded up if you wanted that
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 10:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the heck is Memphis doing?
Brook Lopez is gift wrapped to them at the 5… and they pass?!? I know he is no Greg Oden… but I mean sheesh, they have some glaring holes and some solid young guys already in the back court and in the wings… this seemed like a no brainer… Wow.
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brook Lopez > Kevin Love
And the Knicks passed on Lopez for another big guy that can’t run with Mike D’A
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can speak english, thanks for asking
Who is he serving that outlet pass to? Marbury? Curry? ZBo? Haha, outlet passes mean jack in slow offenses.
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that and do
you really think with zach (his ceilling) on the court he is going to be the guy getting the rebounds??
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will the Knicks screw it up?
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Youbetcha
Although IT isn’t running the show anymore, I think the best fit for them is some short, athletic, gunner with no conscience and an apathy for D. Said gunner would fit right in with Z-bo, Curry, Robinson, Crawford, and the rest of the gang.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOu know what would be cool?
Looking at this at the end of next year to see which GM’s were really off their rockers and which really got it right. Maybe I’ll include this in my 2008, 2009 make your predictions post. Just for the fun of it.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They just did
Taking Kevin Love, another below the rim, slow footed player to go with Eddy Curry and Z-Bo. Wow!
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There has to be a deal in place.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 13, 2008 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should be a nice complement to Curry though, I think
Love is comfortable playing in the high post so he won’t be impinging upon Curry’s turf down low. We’ve seen how D’Antoni likes using Diaw as a point forward out of the high post, and Love should fill that role well with his well-chronicled passing ability. And Curry’s weak on the boards, while Love is a tenacious rebounder who ought to cover Curry’s shortcomings in that department. Not a bad pick in my eyes.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where does
Zbo fit in?
If there is a trade for Zbo, I can sort of buy this, but not if Zbo stays.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but what about Zach Randolph?
Unless there’s a trade in place…maybe Zach Randolph for Kirk Hinrich and a throw in to match up salaries?
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what she said
I meant, I said.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps a Bulls trade
but I don’t think it’s necessary that Randolph be shipped out of town. Do either you or the ratty bastird see any reason why he can’t play 2002-2003-era garbageman off the bench for 25 minutes a game? Love and Curry are both gonna be huffin’ and puffin’ down the court if D’Antoni stays up-tempo.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't very happy coming off the bench here
when he was putting up 20/10 here. Mike Dan Tony is going to have to really motivate him to want to play in a reduced role.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His team was awful last year
and people piled on his performance. It really depends on how much pride Zach has, I think. With a new coach and a new GM demanding accountability and coming off of the worst season of his career, I could see him saying, “Screw this, I’ll show the doubters” and playing like a man possessed next year. Plus he’s gotta figure he’s gonna get numbers under D’Antoni if he gets in shape, right? :)
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then you'd have like 30 million plus in cap space taken up at the PF/C positions
not including Jerome James (5 plus million this year)
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know the cap situation of the Knicks
right off the top of my head, but it doesn’t seem to me that adding a rookie-scale contract necessarily implicates trading a big man to shed salary. They’re way, way over the cap anyway.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New York is #2 behind the Mavs
for salaries at $88M. They don’t care about being over the cap with a reported $300M yearly cash flow unless they really do hope to get LeBron.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
that D’antone can play his style of game. It’ll have to change.
Zbo doesn’t play it and can’t/wont’ run. Other players there will have issues with it too. I don’t think ANY of them will buy into his system.
As for co-existing, for the first year you could be right. I suppose if he ends up replacing Zach (and he’s really that good, which I doubt), then it could be seen as step 1 of the the 12 step process.
After all, we snagged Aldridge when we had Zach last year… and that’s because we were preparing to purge.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think lots of players are gonna buy into it!
Crawford, Robinson, Lee, Chandler, Balkman, Q-Rich (who had his best season under D’Antoni)? You don’t think all those guys are excited to go out, play the passing lanes, and get up and down the court? I guess it depends on how much you think that Walsh/D’Antoni are gonna make the players shape up or ship out. I put a lot of stock in said shaping or shipping next year, so I could see Curry and Randolph gettin’ it done.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
playing a real running game
is HARD work.
I see the knicks as a pretty lazy bunch and zach is included with that.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
you meant ZBO playing off the bench.
Yes… ego.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Knicks have too much in the post and Chicago has too little. I wonder if they’ll do a trade at some point?
Of course, this isn’t real, but I can’t see the Knicks really taken Kevin Love.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could the Knicks and Memphis swap these two picks after the fact?
If Memphis new that D’Antoni wanted the Italian Galinari to help facilitate the Knew Knicks, Memphis could have some chips and get K-Love who would fit in well at Power Forward for them?
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 13, 2008 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oooh
Portland Dynasty (aka Chad Ford) swoops in with the intelligent trade suggestion…we shall see.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Bilas here again
Kevin Love at #6 might be a stretch. He’s certainly very skilled, but I just don’t see that much wingspan, bouncyness or tremendous upside potential.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jun 13, 2008 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What are your thoughts on the Grizz pick?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't watch international players
I just watch college hoops. Go Duke!
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jun 13, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOO!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
But Dulkies it is time to get off your butts and clean house with NC. KU had to take care of that for you. Next year – you may be on your own!
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memphis can only get International Players to come play for them...
Everyone else thinks “Gross, I don’t want to play in Tennessee.”
by Portland Dynasty on Jun 13, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Love is ugly in a Knicks hat.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brook Lopez to the Clippers
Now that is crazy!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How is he going to mesh in the post with Brand?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus duplicating exactly what Kaman brings
the only way this makes sense is if they have internal indications that Brand won’t resign with them when he hits free agency next year.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or they are trading him...
You know, that whole “trade to announce” thing…
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pow!
If this were Skype, I’d be sending you the little punching-guy emoticon right now. Your lucky day that it’s not, bub!
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best player available
They could look to trade.. not worth passing
by amitp06 on Jun 13, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if he was the best
I don’t think he was terrible though.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point guard
I would be wanting a PG if I were the clippers. Livingstone may come back, but that fella would have me nervous.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh trade!
About time somebody took Lopez.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Clippers are lucky to get Lopez there
Trade time
by amitp06 on Jun 13, 2008 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Page is starting to get slow
Too long and unwieldy.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Man... the page crashed on me... weird
I’m not sure how i feel about the trade.
Mayo could be a good fit, but they need to toss Starburry and Zbo to generate some harmony.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
on the wolves side of things
I think I would have liked Mayo and Foye together with Jefferson.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same happened to me
Good trade I think for both but I just think the Knicks aren’t going to get anywhere until next year’s draft.
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't love it for the Wolves
Now they have two more pieces to add to their amalgamation of decent role players. Quality over quantity, Kevin.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right
if they’re serious about cleaning house, it’ll take a few years and some luck. IN the meantime they’ll be looking for athletic players who can run.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade
Wow, go Knicks’ GM! How will Love and Al Jefferson play together at all?!? The knicks also get that big expiring contract! Minnesota is officially the slowest team in NBA history now.
by NEP_blazers on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
weren't they already?
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walker and Rose
both expire after next season. They’re just throw-ins to make the trade work. In essence, this is Balkman and Love for Mayo. Crashed on me too, ratty.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Site go down for anyone else?
Good trade for the Knicks, maybe the franchise can finally start to turn around with Mayo and some cleaning out this summer
by amitp06 on Jun 13, 2008 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, we killed it.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone refreshing like crazy :)
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should fix the articles so that they auto-update too
Just like the comments.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, crashed for me too
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird.
Yeah it was down for a few minutes. All of SBNation was down it seemed…. I tried a few other of their blogs and they weren’t working either.
by bleedingblackandred on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad my trade crashed all of SB, it's an honor.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crash made my heart stop
But I love that trade!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love it for NY
they can keep Walker and not play him or buy him out, it doesn’t matter. They lose Balkman (role player whose skill set is duplicated by Chandler) and Love (eh) for what some people are talking about as the second-best player in the draft. Not a big fan of this from Minny’s POV.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're going to say some people
then you could also talk about “some people” calling him the best player in that draft, because I believe that.
Between Beasely and Mayo it’s more a matter of which position you really need than which is better… but I’d give mayo the edge.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible Trade
For the Wolves. But then again in real life they are targeting Love. Which makes no sense but whatever. I mean isn’t Corey Brewer the same player as Ronaldo Balkman
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
They could have gotten Beasly from the Heat if they had offered several good role players to go with Mayo.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
the heat have marion, and Mayo plus wade would be HUGE, particularly if the wolves just gave up a little more.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we get trade rationale?
I want to see the Wolves’ reason
by amitp06 on Jun 13, 2008 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Westbrook
I think the pick is high but I think he is a solid defender and could develop into a great combo
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I thought it was a little high too. I think Augustine would have been a better fit for them.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but the Roman Empire collapsed a long time ago, and he wasn’t even one of the more impressive emperors. :)
I prefer Westbrook to Augustin for the Bucks. Their scoring and offense ain’t the problem—it’s their defense that’s offensive, and the problem starts at the point of attack. This should address that issue for them.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thing Augustin would have been better
becaues he seems to be a better faciltator (sp?) tan Westbrook. That and I’m still hoping we can get Westbrook.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Writing's on the wall
for Williams or Redd in Milwaukee? Start playing defense and team ball or you’re on the way out?
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brew town plays ugly ball
Does anybody like watching them? I swear, they just don’t inspire anything in me watching them. Westbrook would change that.
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats, Bucks
They finally get a point guard. There goes our chance at RW.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
I would pick Eric Gordan over Westbrook no question. Maybe even Augustin if you want a real point.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oooh yeah
I forgot about EG. Just as good an athlete with a better skill set.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
how many draft day mistakes take place because the players you thought you could snag are not available and your game plan needs to be rewritten?
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully
we have a GM whose backup plans have contingency plans. I can’t believe any front office would get caught with its pants down that badly, but I’m sure it’s happened.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the "fake" Wolves GM
is not fake at all.
McHale is a BlazerEdger
by Falcao on Jun 13, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The "fake" Grizzlies GM
is also Chris Wallace.
wow
by Falcao on Jun 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Jordan is busily trying to find the WPA
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
worst player available?
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
so… WNBA is…
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least the Bobcats can't draft...
Adam Morrison again.
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey now
I was completely against snagging him, but if he hadn’t had a back injury this year, I think he would have surprised people as much as he had disappointed them in the previous year.
He was good, but NOT ready to be the team leader
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For as high as he was drafted...
...he absolutely needed to be better. Nobody was expecting a Bobcats playoff run but he has to show some leadership
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
there were better people on the board, but I also think he’ll turn into a very good NBA player, if the back injury doesn’t end his career.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the Knicks did the Trade
Obviously there is a glaring need in New York to turn things around, and the first step in doing so is brining in some fresh talent to offset some of the sourness brought on by players like Marbury. Also Mayo looks like he will be a perfect fit to play in Mike D’Antoni’s offense, and Marbury is actually quite a good guard to learn from.
We had to take on Walkers contract which is set at 4 long years according to Trade Machine. But the thought is that he might have some motivation to play with New York under D’Antoni’s offense, and it was a risk we were willing to make to get Mayo.
Minnesota takes on 2 short term contracts to gain Cap Space in the coming years, and Balkman may turn in a very cheap role player for them and freeing them of other players they could trade. Plus they got the guy they wanted.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Team option in '09-'10
according to hoopshype. Are you sure that your information is correct, Donnie?
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Nope! I’m just trusting the golden trade machine of holyness.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wish
that there were one centralized and standardized NBA salaries website. ::sigh:: it makes our GM’ing job much more difficult when there’s not.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot believe
I am sitting here eagerly refreshing a mock draft two weeks before the real deal. :D I’m like a crack addict. “Gotta have NBA…gotta have BE…::scratch scratch scratch::” I’m not even at work. It’s 8:10 where I am and I should be meeting up with friends soon but I can’t tear myself away. Good God.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know
Even the crash wasn’t enough to dampen my enthusiasm
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The crash was really scary.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know this is Blazerscrack.com, as Dave has admitted.
The Midnight Rambler
by amlmart1 on Jun 13, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say Charlotte would go witthe WPA
So that’s DeAndre Jordan. Also known as the token freakish athlete with no real basketball ability. I would pick Eric Gordan or Anthony Randolph here.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My bad (of epic porportions)
I can’t believe how badly I dropped the ball.
Today is our last day of school, and I knew I would be available for the draft, but somehow I forgot about it as I was taking care of final check out things. I was up late again last night getting ready for the draft, and I’ve been excited about it since I signed up. Apologies to you for being flaky. I was just sitting here taking a break for a second from doing paperwork and remembered what I was missing.
I’ve been thinking Grizzlies for two weeks. Ugh.
by jc burg on Jun 13, 2008 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch...
Well who would you have picked? Why?
It’s not the same, but if you did the work, why not?
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd been working the trade wire
I really liked Love as the fit for the Grizzlies, and I know that a lot of people in Memphis are high on him. I was trying to figure out a way to trade down to get him, but that didn’t look like it would work, which would have left me picking him at number five, right before he ended up going to the Knicks. I do appreciate the at-large people who made up for my ineptitude.
When it hit me that I missed this it was a definite stomach punch moment.
by jc burg on Jun 13, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you had taken Love
The draft would look ALOT different now.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's why people shouldn't flake out
I’m still frustrated by myself.
by jc burg on Jun 13, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
you could have had mayo!!!
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like your pick
It’s a risk, but the reward could be VERY good and when Marc comes over and with Gay already in place and a bunch of point guards to do trades for… I wouldn’t be that unhappy with your pick.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm not upset
Just not the one I would have made.
by jc burg on Jun 13, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what I think about that pick yet.
But EG and Augustin are both still on the board, and we may get one of them.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Surprise pick, but not that bad really.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Pick! Arthur is gonna be good.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Picking for need when you're in the lottery =
not a good strategy IMHO. Eric Gordon = BPA here, and I haven’t seen any mocks taking Arthur this high.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree here
You have to take Gordon and work a trade if need be. Definitely BPA. Can’t believe he dropped.
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most Mocks like Jordan over Arthur
but head-to-head (twice) Arthur outplayed Jordan. Fine to pick upside low in the draft but Arthur is ready as a backup now. Only trouble I have is Arthur measured shorter than advertised. He does know how to play defense and he does score well with his back to the basket.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EG is still on the board at #10!
Wow New Jersey(Brooklyn) will be really good with Eric Gordan Devin Harris and Lebron.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Indiana
Will steal Gordon
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm guessing the Blazers are going to pick
Joe Alexander here. Augustin will probably go #11. Randolph at 12
This assuming NJ doesn’t blow the pick by not selecting EG
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol Devin Hester!
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be their kick return guy
Once the WWE and NBA merge
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Jersey
Dang thats a scary backcourt with Gordon.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i definitely like their pick
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
by ratbastird on Jun 13, 2008 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A pick that should have happened probably five spots ago
What’s good for Jay-Z is good for the NBA though. That’s what I always say at least…
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow NJN looking good
Toss VC and Richard Jefferson to the curb for draft picks and expiring contracts and set yourself up for the Lebron sweepstakes!
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just don't think
Eric Gordon is going that late in the draft. This is a Brooklyn Nets fan wet dream IMO
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Get, But...
Yeah, it’s a great grab at that spot. They got lucky, but Gordon is NOT an NBA shooting guard at 6’3’’... hasn’t Ben Gordon proved that you can’t have two shorties starting at once, even if one is a pure shooter? But really good for back-up PG or trade-bait.
by NEP_blazers on Jun 13, 2008 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
crashed again lol
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha... We're refreshing like crazy!
Paging DJ Augustin… Paging DJ Augustin…
Brady Quinn is on the line for you…
"I was a huge Dr. J fan, so I was upset when Maurice Lucas and Bill Walton beat up on him in the Championship. But now Portland has a good young nucleus and with Greg coming on next year, they'll be a team I'll follow throughout the season." Obama
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 13, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Expert media
No disrespect but please keep quiet.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
others are watching the way
this draft is unfolding and hoping that this keeps up
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the first GM to get dissed by the media
I guess I’ve got this MJ impersonation down
I do honestly think Darrel Aurthur is a really good fit for Charlotte. Above Anthony Randolph and Eric Gordon. No offense to whoever gambles on DeAndre Jordan, but that guy has no heart or basketball skill.
by tweener on Jun 13, 2008 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless the blazers pull a trade,
I’ve lost all reasons to monitor this draft.
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oops didn't finish
I was hoping we would somehow end up with a point guard
"My, that is a handsome fella. He must be the offspring of a Greek God!" - Bill Walton calling a Clipper's-Laker's game as Luke Walton checks in.
by JTDuck22 on Jun 13, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the Blazers could have ended up with Gordon
But the commissioner wouldn’t let it through. Just a rumor. I think Jack was involved.
by pualo on Jun 13, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indy makes the safe pick, goes with Augustin
here Comes Anthony Randolph or maybe Joe Alexander if they are going to dump Ron Artest.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sacramento goes big again
Getting another good but not great big
by thelance on Jun 13, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kings GM here
Obvsiously, our entire draft room deflated a bit when DJ got selected. We really were thinking and hoping to get lucky and have him fall to us. Randolph was the no brainer BPA after that, since we aren’t going to reach for a Lawson or Chalmers despite our PG needs.
We’re working the phones now, maybe looking to package Anthony for a later pick in the first round, or for a veteran PG.
by douglast on Jun 13, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Devin Hester
NFL return man and NBA PG extraordinaire!
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BLOW TRADE WINDS BLOW
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the Wolves made the trade
As the mock Wolves GM, the more I read about Minnesota’s situation and the possible picks they could make, I think Kevin McHale would target Kevin Love. He’s an old school guy who can post up, play in the high post, a great passer, and appears to be better athletically than previously thought (partially because he lost weight after the season). He should be able to play alongside Al Jefferson. However, I don’t think Love is a legitimate third pick in this draft, so it made sense to trade down and get something in return. I looked at two salary sites and both said that Walker has three years left on his contract after this year. Besides, the Wolves want to get rid of him anyway for chemistry reasons.
by TheBlazersPhilosopher on Jun 13, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that Minny will be taking Mayo
if only for the reason that they know that Mia is high on him and is willing to trade for him. Worse comes to worse, they Play him at SG with Foye. But I can see them trading up to get Beasley.
by SpyderRyder on Jun 13, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Love rumors have been solid for 2 weeks now
I think he’d work well with Jefferson with the double post. Also, Walker has a team option after next year that will be declined so he effectively has 1 year left.
All your Wolves basketball belongs to us.
Canis Hoopus
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 13, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the team option conditional
or something like that? I was reading over in an old forum on Real GM and the closest thing to a consensus about his contract is that he has an official ETO, and unofficially a team option for each of the last two years that they can only use for health reasons. Is that true?
by TheBlazersPhilosopher on Jun 13, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not conditional...
...this will be his last year in the money in the NBA. The team holds the option and they will surely decline it….if he is not packaged with a pick and a player like Shaddy for another asset.
All your Wolves basketball belongs to us.
Canis Hoopus
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 13, 2008 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the 13th pick,
the blazers select Joe Alexander and trade him to NJ for Jarret Jack and $3mill cash for Eric Gordon
Channeling my inner fatty: “BOOK IT”
by SpyderRyder on Jun 13, 2008 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jay Bilas checking in
Kings got a steal at #12
Anthony Randolph’s upside is as good an anyone in this draft outside the top 2. He’s so long he could shake hands with David Stern from the Green Room.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jun 13, 2008 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Devin Hester
That’s my bad… Devin Harris/Devin Hester/ both awesome players!
by JerkStore on Jun 13, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Methinks it has bee longer than 15minutes
youthinks not?
by SpyderRyder on Jun 13, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers cut a deal with Stern
Since they are so slow, he gives them extra time. In return, they promised to make a really really good pick, or something.
by pualo on Jun 13, 2008 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Antione Walker to NY!!!!!!!!
Too funny.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 13, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Antoine Walker's 09-10 Option
Some people have said that Antoine Walker’s option for the 09-10 season (when he will still have two years left on his contract) is a team option. It is true that Hoopshype says this. However, Real GM says that it is an early termination option, i.e. a player option. If anyone has a more official site reference for his contract status please let me know.
by TheBlazersPhilosopher on Jun 13, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no one wants to trade
ma no one is willing to trade!
by hoifob on Jun 13, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
theres an offer on the table involving the blazers and bucks
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heart Mike Redd
I would love to give him 30 shots a night.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 13, 2008 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minny & NYK Trade
Does anyone really believe Minny’s gonna make that trade with NYK. Doubt it
by DB Cooper00 on Jun 13, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One Word
Mchale.
Rumor has it that Minnesota GM Kevin Mchale is enamored with Kevin Love and is targeting him come draft day. I could see it happen. Another possibility is that he could pick Brook Lopez 3rd.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A trade to NYC or Memphis...
...isn’t out of the realm of possibility. If the Wolves could pick up a player like Lowry, Warrick, Darko, or Lee plus swapping picks, it’s not that bad of a deal. Don’t forget that the Wolves have taken 2 6 nothing combo guards and a 185 lbs shooting guard who can’t shoot or dribble in the past 3 drafts. If you throw in Marko, they have a ton of money locked up in a young backcourt. Right now, Madsen and Jefferson are the only signed front court players.
I’d be more than happy if they landed Lowry and Love instead of simply Mayo. Mayo v. Love is a push as far as I’m concerned. I don’t see the superstar potential in Mayo.
All your Wolves basketball belongs to us.
Canis Hoopus
www.canishoopus.com
by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 13, 2008 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alexander
After all that build up. :(
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who was the other...we seem to have the time now...
Toro feces ego id.
by Kampeska on Jun 13, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Booooo!
From the cheap seats. Lousy beer and another project; I hope he howls better than Wolf…..thought the 9 minutes of dunks on Youtube was kind fun…for about three minutes. All I see is his teeth all over the paint.
by Rick C in Tigard on Jun 13, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jumpin JOEhoshaphat
I was hoping he’d slide to the Celtics. He was shaping up to be a real prospect at #60
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Joe!
Where ya gonna go
with that ball in your hand
"Lenny Suckerpunch Never bet on me" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on Jun 13, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Guess
If Biendrich?rins?ric? You know who I’m talking about, stays, then I don’t think he’ll get much playing time. I mean they also have Brendan Wright don’t they?
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandan Wright is a PF
Patrick O’Bryant is a center though, and he never plays.
"No, you're not imagining things: Black America is ecstatic." -Errin Haines, Associated Press writer
by Junior Del Norte on Jun 13, 2008 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
GS picks Patrick O’Bryant version 2.0! Congrats.
Although maybe he’s closer to Tyrus Thomas?
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My fault, somehow I didn't see this comment before I responded to your other one
"No, you're not imagining things: Black America is ecstatic." -Errin Haines, Associated Press writer
by Junior Del Norte on Jun 13, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
V 2.0
Supersonic, super destructive, seemingly unresistable
On the job, around the clock, with 24 hour a day reliability
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe GS
is planning to own their own D-League team and is stocking for it?
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we interested in buying the pick from Kerr this year?
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be amazing as we could
use the 13th and the 15th to move up and grab either Westbrook or Gordon. So essentially we would be getting the 7-8th pick for $3mill and the 13th. We can then ship Jack out for a 09 or 10 future 1st and we will be gravvvvy.
by SpyderRyder on Jun 13, 2008 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess not.
Rush is an interesting choice. I don’t know if he will be able to start over Bell/Hill/Diaw, but he should at least give them solid bench play.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He plays defense and can score
Diaw and Hill not so much either. I really like Bell on defense but he needs help. Rush might be the most NBA ready of the 1st rounders.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't see Rush starting for PHX from day 1
He’s a good prospect- smart player, should be a good role player- but not a great prospect.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jun 13, 2008 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There's another deal involving westbrook in the works
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nice picks for
both toronto and wizards
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jay Bilas checking in again
Washington just got a guy at #18 who has enough tremendous upside potential to go in the top 10. He has enough wingspan and athleticism to be the steal of the draft.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on Jun 13, 2008 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Speights
A lot. He wont be much this year but if he keeps his head on straight he will be a starter in the future…
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 13, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the #20 spot,
I had Lawson, Budinger and him a close third for the nugz uptempo attack. I would go with Budinger for his speed ant athleticism and they already have Martin and Camby down low.
by SpyderRyder on Jun 13, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about his motor?
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow
by tominhawaii on Jun 13, 2008 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
his motor has a nice wingspan
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 13, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also something of a tweener
As it only runs on a 50-50 gasoline-ethanol mix.
by royroty on Jun 13, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario Chalmers
So now there is a backcourt of:
Devin Harris/Mario Chalmers
Vince Carter/Eric Gordon
Robin Lopez would have been a much better pick here. I could see Eric Gordon if he was backing up both PG and SG… but now you have relegated him to the 10min/game that Carter isn’t on the floor. I don’t like this pick at all.
by Salem Stephen on Jun 13, 2008 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the commish had a blunder...
The Nets have now selected Chase Budinger. Personally, I would have gone for a big as well..
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 13, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could have sworn...
I just saw Mario Chalmers as the pick for NJ. Must be the heat. Budinger isn’t as bad. He can backup RJ. Then Gordon and Budinger can fight for the backup minutes at the SG position.
by Salem Stephen on Jun 13, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
My bad. Small typo. “Chalmers” and “Budinger” are really close on the keyboard.
—Dave
by Dave on Jun 13, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
common mistake
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
by TheOdenator on Jun 13, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard there was communication issues
Between the league office and the Clippers draft room, my guess is that once again Donald Sterling fell asleep at the wheel. I heard he kept screaming Olowakandi at David Stern and Stern had to remind him that he had already been drafted…
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To which Sterling said
“Oh – I’m so disappointed. I really liked Olowakandi”!
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good trade for the Clips
With Maggette leaving and Mobley getting older, they got two guys who can step in and contribute right away.
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After the trade...
That makes a lot more sense. I like it for both teams.
by Salem Stephen on Jun 13, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good trade for the Clips and the Nets
Although I do think the Clips got the better end of the deal. Gordan could have easily been their pick at #7 but they managed to get an additional first rounder as well. New Jersey got exactly what they needed so it looks like a good move both ways…
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 13, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Westbrook Rumor
Rumor has it Milwaukie has traded the rights to Russell Westbrook away. Further details are not yet available, but all indications are that it is a done deal.
by douglast on Jun 13, 2008 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New Jersey chiming in
It’s tough making the deals, because you never know exactly what is going to be on the board when you pick, especially when you have a player you want to target. Robin Lopez seemed like the best fit for NJ, so the trade was made when the Clips were on the clock at #7. Seeing how the Bobcats drafted, maybe I pulled the gun too early and could have picked up Lopez at the 10, but it seemed to me that there was no way Lopez was going to fall past Charlotte, at least in my mind. I tried offering a 2nd rounder + #10 for the #7. I think in a real draft, that would have been enough for NJ to leapfrog ahead of Charlotte and grab the pick, but in this draft no one wants to trade a 2nd rounder because it’s no “fun” (we aren’t drafting 2nd rounders so you don’t actually get ANYTHING for a 2nd rounder in this format, not even a name of a draftee) so I was forced to move the #21 pick as well to jump up.
Overall, I think NJ overpaid a bit for Lopez, but it is the best fit for that team, they desperately need low post help, and Lopez has decent offensive moves, and isn’t a horrible interior defender either. But in real life, I would expect the trade to probably be NJ’s 2nd rounder + #10 for the #7… but maybe I overvalue 2nd rounders in real life too much, who knows.
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also note
Had NJ not made the trade for Lopez, Clippers would have taken EG at the 7 anyway, so there is no way NJ could end up with EG under any situation… But seeing him fall down to 10 after I took Lopez at the 7 had to make the Clippers happy happy joy joy.
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like CDR
He’s a good player and can remove rust stains.
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow
by tominhawaii on Jun 13, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow great move by the Clips
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good pick by Orlando
I don’t think Keith Bogans really cuts it at starting SG.
Boston coach Doc Rivers said he was surprised by the firing of Saunders.
"I don't understand it," Rivers said. "It makes coaching not fun."
by Dheepan on Jun 13, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He just screams Trajan Langdon to me.
I think I can copy and paste my comments about the NJ pick before the trade. Orlando prefers playing Turkoglu at SG as opposed to PF. They have said that they were looking for another bigman to pair up with Dwight Howard. They were lucky enough to have the option of picking between JaVale McGee and Robin Lopez and they went with CDR. Maybe Jameer Nelson has a Napoleon Complex and demanded that there be at least one player on the floor under 6’10” so that he can high-five someone without hoping.
by Salem Stephen on Jun 13, 2008 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is taking longer than the 1st Round of the NFL Draft!
People should be ready to make picks!
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
@lefty6283
+1
I’m sitting here waiting patiently so I can drop some R.C. Buford magic on y’all and I can only wait so freakin’ long.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo!!
Wouldn’t be an NBA draft if the Sonics weren’t picking a project big man in the first round!
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, somebody other than me in the thread!
I feel somewhat less dorky now. Where is everybody anyway? Cuttin’ out of work early to kinkily pounce on that weekend I guess.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are people forgetting Jeff Green?
he was the #5 overall pick last year, and Durant will only be at SG for another year, TOPS, before he moves to SF, and even if Beasley were to play the ‘4’, you’ve just relegated the fifth pick from the previous year to permanent 6th man duties…doesn’t make sense to me!
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
I don’t get it. The way I see it, you have
Center - Doofus
PF - Beasley
SF - Durant
SG - Doofus
PG—Jeff Green
They’ll still stink this year, so they get another solid player next year at Center or SG. Sounds good to me.
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PG Jeff Green?
I think you’re confused. (Not saying it as a d-bag, I actually think you are).
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some see him like Scottie Pippen
at Point Forward
by jc burg on Jun 13, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
I cry B.S. I’m getting on 82games.com and seeing how many minutes Green logged as the POINT GUARD in Seattle’s five-man sets this year.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I have NO IDEA what I was thinking. I don’t know why I thought Jeff Green was a point guard.
It must have been the 3 Dr. Peppers at Olive Garden.
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha!
I know how the Doctor can really mess you up if you don’t respect him, I understand that totally. ;) In case you were interested, Jeff Green as PG didn’t crack any of the Sonics’ top twenty lineups minute-wise on 82games.com, so the Grand Jeff Green At Point Experiment lasted fewer than 32 cumulative minutes if it happened.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't like this move at all from the Heat's perspective
You’re giving up a potential superstar in Beasley and a young scoring prospect who really dazzled at certain points last year in Cook for Bayless and an NBA retread in Wilkins? Trading Collison for Haslem is essentially a push, as they have very similar stats and styles. Beasley + Cook > Bayless + Wilkins. Don’t like it one bit.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, why would Miami do this?
If you take out the draft choices, wouldn’t Seattle still make the trade of Haslem and Cook for Collison and Wilkens? I would make that trade if I was Seattle, but why would Miami?
by zach2046 on Jun 13, 2008 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job R.C.
I like that pick for all the reasons you listed.
by jc burg on Jun 13, 2008 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why thank you
I really liked DeVon Hardin too…heck, seeing as it’s just me and you and a couple of other dudes in here, I’ll go ahead and paste my DeVon Hardin description for commentary from anybody interested.
2) DeVon Hardin, California.
The returns of Robert Horry, Kurt Thomas, and Fabricio Oberto are all currently up in the
air, leaving a potentially gaping hole in our front line. We think that DeVon Hardin can
immediately step in to the big-man rotation and contribute. While his numbers won’t wow
you (9.3 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 1.2 bpg in 23.8 mpg), his athleticism, size, and motor just might.
Hardin’s a terror on the boards and utilizes his tremendous athleticism to finish
extremely well at the rim, which makes him the perfect complement to Tim Duncan’s
cerebral, below-the-basket style of play on offense. He has the shot-blocking instincts
and the body to become a formidable defensive presence in the league. He’s limited
offensively, but we don’t need him to create for us—we have our Big Three for that.
All we need from Hardin are, helpfully enough, his natural strengths: nonstop energy on
the backboards, protecting and finishing at the rim, and running the floor for easy
buckets.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elgin Baylor!
As Elgin, the king of the messed up draft boy, I’d like to thank you all for the compliments. I doubt I can get that kind of deal, but for what I got, considering Maggette and Brand are as good as gone, I’d like to say that picking those two players without saying I did at the time was like pulling teeth. Before we got the trade, I was ready to pick Eric Gordon at 7, and then the trade came through, which gave me 21, and a player with mucho upside in Chase Budinger. I saw, in person, what he did vs. Oregon the last 2 years and he is about as rangy as it gets. But he’s talented. Plus, with all the defense that the Clips play anyway, what’s the point?
by JerkStore on Jun 13, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really, great trade Elgin
But weren’t you worried that somebody was gonna take EG at #8 or #9, ergo ruining your finely honed plan? Obviously it didn’t happen, so props. But what was the contingency plan?
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Gordon get's picked...
Then DJ Augustin, or any of the PF’s are still available. Although none of the teams behind me need small guards…
by JerkStore on Jun 13, 2008 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if Gordon gets picked, that trade falls through?
Or do you deal with NJ for whomever they draft at #10 or #21 anyway?
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have to pick a new player
The Clips already have a large, slow white guy
by JerkStore on Jun 13, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
If the Draft really went like this it would be crazy.
Trail Blazers are really cool
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 13, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this thing
I bet KP is here somewhere, gleaning nuggets of wisdom from us
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2008 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughing hysterically
at our ideas of who to draft and why and when to trade.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that move from the Hornets
though I personally might have gambled on Hardin instead. He’s basically Tyson-lite and the Hornets’ interior defense goes to crap as soon as Chandler leaves the game. Big man depth was a big need for N.O. this year and Hardin was a first-round lock last season before he broke his foot…my two cents.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We thought about it hard
but the injury had us nervous and we figured we could pick up a big white stiff off the FA market…
Blazermania - It's not just for die-hards anymore.
by Blazerholic on Jun 13, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow this draft just lost all legitimacy when this trade went down
Why on earth would Miami trade two good power forwards for any Seattle frontline player?
Why would Miami trade their NBA champion and hometown favorite Udonis Haslem as filler?
Why wouldn’t Miami just roll with Beasley or pick Mayo/Bayless if they want another starting guard?
Udonis Haslem is straight up better than Collison. Wilkins is nothing special. I don’t get this trade at all.
by tweener on Jun 13, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We have similar thoughts
I’m waiting for the Heat’s GM to step up and explain his/her/its rationale.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
k but its got to be quick cause I am supposed to be BBQ-ing
1- The Heat have Shawn Marion, picking Beasley all but asures Marion leaves after next season since they are both undersized power forwards
2- The Miami heat dont really want Beasley, they want a point guard. I tried to think that way for the integrity of the draft(much like the T-Wolves picking Love)
3- Beasley may have franchise player skills, but he is a long way from having a franchise player mentality, in other words, he isnt a character guy
4- Collison IS a better than Haslem especially when it comes to rebounding and defending, and he has improved in these areas every year. Yes their stats are similar, but Collison played 8 less minutes per game, if you adjust his stats to 36 minutes, they are much more telling.
5- Wilkins is a better player than Cook. People praise Cook for his offense, but he shot 38% from the field, most of his good games came late in the year when Miami was in tank mode and Ramon Sessions was looking like Steve Nash, and his defense is severely lacking to boot. Wilkins is a tough defender and a much more versatile player than Cook.
6- Haslem missed more games last season than Collison has missed in his entire NBA career
7- I also got the #24 pick in Serge Ibaka , Dave forgot to mention that
It might not look like a great trade right now, but I dont think Beasley is going to be the guy that everyone expects him to be. I expect his career to take more of a Carmelo Anthony/Darius Miles route than say a Brandon Roy/Chris Paul path. By that I mean he will never be the leader of a good team, his head doesnt seem in the right place and millions of dollars will only make that worse. It may not be a popular choice but I believe that Collison and Wilkins would help Dwayne Wade win more games this season than Haslem and Cook would have. Collison seems undervalued around here, he has been a part of USA basketball several times and there is a reason for that. He is a great team player that is willing to do the little things on the floor to help his team win. Ok, I guess that wasnt that quick…
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Jun 13, 2008 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it is hard to project anybody but Beasley
for ROY. I share your doubts about him though. He is a stat machine. Character is not a problem as far as partying etc but is he a leader? At K-State he did take some leadership along with Walker. And as far as I know was never a problem on the team. Sill he is not the franchise player I would want.
I agree that rumors abound the Miami wants out of the #2 pick. I also like Collison and yet doubt that Coach Riley will trade Haslem for him. (In college Simien was as good as Collison and Riley had Simien and traded him to Minny). Colison missed his whole rookie season (like Oden) from shoulder surgery. I think in real life Miami has several good offers for #2 and that will heat up at the start of the draft. No trade before then because Riley is rumored to like Rose best and would want to take and keep him should Chicago go for Beasley (not many think they will).
Miami also needs veterans who can play to give it a better chance to keep Wade when he opts out in 2010. Last year was too depressing!
Nice work friend. Enjoy your thought process.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
by lee3022 on Jun 13, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beasley for ROY?
Four letters: O-D-E-N.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 15, 2008 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have some good thoughts
I still think somebody was licking your armpit while you made this trade
by tweener on Jun 13, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I strongly disagree
I think if we come back next year we will praise the Heat GM for unloading a character issue guy. This guy is going to be a BUST, and whoever dealt him will be praised.
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you might not like him and he might be arrogant, aloof and a poor teammate
but that doesn’t mean he will be a bust. 26 points and 12 boards as a freshman in college is pretty dang strong
by tweener on Jun 13, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was playing a little more devil's advocate than voicing my opinion
He won’t be a “bust” but yes, I do think he will NOT be as good as advertised, especially 4 or 5 down the road.
Beasley = Carmelo. Ok player, can’t win big, has character issues.
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 14, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good pick from Memphis
getting a near-guaranteed rotation player at the end of the first round is nice work. Lopez will be everything for them that Darko’s sorry self ain’t.
by BlazersOrBust on Jun 13, 2008 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Thompson FTW!
ptwnblzr: #25
Outlaw is Rejector: amen
annthefan: Hallelujah
prezofdeath: Preach it!
Outlaw is Rejector: THE CHOIR SINGS IT
by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2008 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened?
There was a trade that should have been posted…it had Milwaukee sending Russell Westbrook and Dan Gadzuric to the Kings for Anthony Randolph, John Salmons and a 2008 2nd round pick (43 overall)
by lefty6283 on Jun 13, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you're right
I’m not sure what happened, but I’m pretty sure Dave already left for dinner.
At-Large GM for the Mock Draft
by Magnum on Jun 13, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will admit, at least half of these trades left me scratching my head. Miami, Minny… I just don’t see it… how often do you see top 5 picks moved without KP involved? Almost never… and in our draft 4 out of the top 5 picks moved… unlikely.
by diskord on Jun 13, 2008 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HOU/DET had a trade in principle (Alston, Scola, Jackson, #25 for Wallace, Samb, #29)
Houston lineup without trade:
Alston/ Jackson/ Brooks
McGrady/ Head/ Francis
Battier/ Hayes/ Harris
Scola/ Landry/ Novak
Ming/ Mutombo/ #25 (J. McGee)
(2nd rounder unused)
With trade (different pick would have been made at #29)
Head/ Brooks/ #29 (Chalmers)
McGrady/ Francis/ #54 (B. Taylor)
Battier/ Hayes/ Harris
Scola/ Landry/ Novak
Ming/ Mutombo/ Samb
Rationale: The Rockets needed more scoring out of their PF spot, and Wallace seems to do well after a change of scenery. His contract is only good for one year, but he would be extended to align with Tracy McGrady’s contract. Luther Head and Aaron Brooks were progressing well enough to take the reins from an aging Rafer Alston. If the Rockets can get anything out of Francis it will be a bonus. Sad that an OSU guy chose to re-pair the Duck’s backcourt of Brooks/ Taylor, but it’s tough to argue with their effectiveness. Chalmers has the defensive skills to match up against guards that Brooks can’t defend, and the potential to start should Head/Brooks falter.
Another move would be trading away Chuck Hayes/ Mike Harris for a drive to the hoop type SF, possibly even a prospect like Will Daniels?
Which roster has a shot to contend for the 08/09 title? Assuming health?
by Mad Matt the Road Warrior on Jun 13, 2008 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ergg... long post screwed up.
Head/ Brooks/ #29 (Chalmers)
McGrady/ Francis/ #54 (B. Taylor)
Battier/ Hayes/ Harris
Rasheed/ Landry/ Novak
Ming/ Mutombo/ Samb
Actually….what am I thinking asking this on a Blazer board….Rasheed has no friends here. (I actually liked him)
by Mad Matt the Road Warrior on Jun 13, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The blazer GM Triumvirate agreed to this trade
Matt Carroll & Earl Boykins. They need a little help back there.
by tweener on Jun 13, 2008 5:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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