David Stern Just Does Not Get It
First of all, great minds think alike, because my blogging partner Ben just shared a wonderful NBA "Interoffice Memo" piece with us just below. Check it out.
I would like to buttress the sentiment by referring to this article over at Yahoo. A couple of select sentences:
David Stern came to the defense of his beleaguered referees again Thursday, saying they don't manipulate games or engage in other criminal activity...
He said he felt bad for Boston and Los Angeles players in the finals, and especially the officials who have to "defend themselves against allegations by one of their fallen brethren."
OK, stop. I know you understand exactly what you are saying, Commissioner Stern. I understand that it's in your best interest to deflect blame from the League Office and yourself by associating any allegation of influencing games solely with the referees involved and by implying that if there is any blame it lies there. I also understand you trying to make us sympathize with the players on two of the most popular teams in the league...people whom we are far more likely to view positively than yourself or the referees. But just stop it.
Just in case, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're actually making these statements with wide-eyed innocence and not cold, manipulative, media-savvy calculation, let me spell this out for you:
If these allegations are true, or even partially true, we don't blame the referees. Yes, they might have worked the games, but they were comparatively low-level employees who were told to do their jobs in a certain way and did it. It would have been nice to have a metaphorical whistle-blower among the literal ones but you can understand why there weren't any in such a small, insulated, elite cadre of professionals. Isolated cultures breed exactly this kind of opportunity and this kind of behavior whether the rank and file within them will it or not. Neither do we blame the players. Though some were advantaged by it they--along with their coaches, fans, and management personnel--were victims here. To the extent that these allegations are true we blame YOU, David Stern. We blame you and the league office you shaped and ran. You have been the Godfather of NBA basketball for a couple decades now. Media people and your own employees quailed at your coming. You charted the course of this sport as you thought best, for better or worse. You have basked in the glow of the better. You do not get to slyly deflect the spotlight you've held on to so long when the worse comes around. Do not feel sorry for the refs. Nobody cares about them. Last summer one was exposed as out-and-out crooked...a cheat and lowlife. After the initial story broke and subsided nobody mentioned his name for the better part of a year. Do not feel sorry for the players. They're always going to be loved. Feel sorry for YOU, David Stern. Start talking about yourself and your office. That's where the bullseye is going to stay trained as long as this situation persists. And no amount of double-talk is going to change that, no matter how hard you try.
When the accusation comes out that the league itself directed referees to unfairly influence games, for anyone to imply that the blame is being placed upon, or belongs upon, the refs is outrageous. It's like blaming a ten-year old for stealing a candy bar when a 250 pound bodybuilder is standing behind him with a baseball bat demanding he do it or else. When the Commissioner himself makes that implication it goes beyond outrageous into the realm of the disgusting. You don't get to blame the victims here. You don't get to throw your own employess under the bus. You don't get to paint this as ref-on-ref violence that you are somehow above. You don't get to hush inquisitive voices by standing near innocent people and playing on our heartstrings either. The guy who starts the war can't absolve himself of accountability by crying, "Support the Troops!" Been there, done that, had enough of it. We all support the troops. It's you we want to talk about. Most of all you don't get to insinuate that asking questions about any of this is wrong or bad or hurtful. That won't wash.
I'm not saying any of the accusations are true. But true or not, these are inappropriate sentiments and this is an inappropriate reaction, period. Even if the Commissioner is completely innocent, the way this is being handled--meaning every quote that's coming from him about Tim Donaghy, the refs, the Finals, and everything else--is making me think harder and harder about whether the league really does have something to hide.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Right on
Stern is all about power and being called out for his misuse of power is long overdue. Every action he takes seems calculated to gain himself more power. Every new franchise ownership change seems to have David Stern front and center in the action, helping to insure that new owners are indebted to David Stern.
Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."
Yes Dave
couldn’t have said it better.
I really don’t like David Stern at all and would love nothing more than to see him go.
Just let this league be about Basketball. Pure Basketball. Even if the team you love loses, as long as you know, you really know, the better team just beat you.
I just hope
for all of our sake that this gets taken care of fast. I LOVE PRO BASKETBALL so much, I don’t know what I would do without it.
Great Post
One of your most important posts.
I share the sentiment. David Stern’s latest response was bizarre. Though Ben’s refereences to Mao rang true, I was reminded more of Baghdad Bob, the delusional PR man for Saddam Hussein… I have been skeptical of the conspiracy allegations, but the way Stern has reacted to the entire affair is making me wonder. He’s talking about it like some one who is guilty.
Henry Abott has a nice little post with a similiar perspective:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-32-312/Justin-Wolfers-on-the-Quality-of-an-NBA-Denial.html
My question is what can fans do to get the league to respond in an appropriate manner? Ultimately, the NBA is a business and it’s product will suffer if Stern continues to fail to address the issue, so it will have an incentive to respond eventually… But, I don’t want it to suffer—not when Portland is on the verge of being an important franchise once again… I think fans need to be proactive. It’s one thing to respond to internet polls saying that we think the leauge is fixed. It’s another thing to actively send a message to the league. I’d love to see an organized letter writing /email campaign of some sort, but I’m no expert on that kind of thing.
A written message seems appropriate simply because explaining what we, the fans, want is somewhat complicated…. Maybe different people want different things, but what I want is evidence—evidence that the league does not try to influence officials to call the game a certain way. What type of evidence? I’m not sure. What’s clearer is what does not count for evidence. What’s clear is what I do not want. I do not want claims by officials or league executives or players that the games were called fairly. I do not want logical arguments about why fixing games could not have happened or why it’s not in the interest of the league to fix games. I do not know enough about the character of officials or the league to know if their lying or know what makes sense to them. I’d like to see some independent analysis of officiating. It seems like it should be easy enough to determine if playoff series tend to last longer than one should expect, based on regular season records, or if deviations in fouls occur frequently in end of series games… Obviously, that kind of analysis wouldn’t be definitive, but I want more than these lame denials.
It may not matter, but if you really want change
you cant just sit back and do nothing. Starting a petition, or even an e-mail strain with a brief comment from everyone here on SB nation that feels the same would at least be doing something. Send it to the league, a copy to some of the sports casters on ESPN, the Senate.
Even if there is no evidence, though there is some, we deserve unbiased and uninfluenced officiating, and honest league executives. Nothing like real life I know but put the mechanisms in place to achieve that. You never had mechanisms in place to stop or catch refs from cheating. The feds caught Donaghy. The NBA supposedly didn’t have a clue.
I wonder if he bet on that WCF game between the Kings and Lakers?
This is a really good point actually
The FBI aren’t really experts of NBA officiating. If as Stern states there is “No Substance” to Donaghy’s allegations and they really review every call then Donaghy should have been found out by the league LONG before the FBI caught him for hanging out with gangsters. I just think it’s clear that at a minimum the oversight for referee’s is woefully insufficient which is absurd in a multi-billion dollar league like the NBA. Why is it the NBA is the only pro-sport you so regularly hear about having questionable calls in every single event? Not all of it can be chalked up to speed of the game although if that is an issue we have the technology to address it fairly. Let’s clean up the league and do it now. I think the Blazers in 2 years can take ANYONE in the league as long as the game is fair….
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All the podcasts and stuff I've read
About game 4 was that it was the most fairly officiated game people have seen in years. I think that is even worse for the perception of the NBA.
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow
Yeah...
Game 4 was okay, but still not great. The refs were much improved in Game 5, however.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on Jun 15, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesomely Written!
The passion that you poured into this post was palpable. The truth of the words you wrote is inescapable. Stern is being damned by his own mishandling of this entire scandal. Even if the worst scenario is not the case, in my opinion he has already nailed his own coffin shut with the stupidity of his own arrogance.
Stern should resign at the earliest possible opportunity. He wont, but he should.
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Serious Changes Needed
I haven’t been a proponent of the conspiracy theories. But the way Stern has been reacting to this situation and further reflection on the league’s approach to officiating and questions about its officiating has really been annoying me the last few days. Then I realized tonight, as I was watching the game, that I shifted. Suddenly, the notion of influenced refereeing felt . . . kind of reasonable. Kind of possible.
I still don’t think there was any specific game fixing going on as Donaghy is claiming, but I wouldn’t be particularly shocked if proof of it came out, either. I’m at the point, I guess, where I don’t totally trust the game.
And then, a short while ago, I watched the YouTube of the TNT guys-Ernie, Charles, Kenny-talking about whether the Brent Barry / Derek Fisher play was a foul. The entire segment basically boiled down to everyone acknowledging that of course it was a foul, but that it was completely legitimate that it was not called because, primarily, Barry did not sell it and, alternately, because the refs just can’t decide a game at the end like that. Barkley said, paraphrasing, “If the ref calls that foul, Barry gets three free throws. The ref is then deciding the game, rather than the play on the court.”
But that’s nonsense! If it’s a foul, then that’s the play on the court! By choosing not to call a foul, that’s actually the ref deciding the game. By altering the way the game is called, that’s the ref deciding the game. By calling a foul if there is one and not calling a foul if there isn’t, that’s letting the game be decided by the play on the court. It’s complete nonsense. And the fact that there could be a serious discussion by these guys that an acknowledged foul can fairly and legitimately not be called by the ref because either Barry didn’t sell it well enough or refs can’t call fouls at the very end of the game-or both-is the exact reason so many people suspect or believe the league is rigged.
So anyway, I find it all depressing, and I was a little surprised tonight to find that I was watching the game with a bit of a different frame of mind. It would be nice if Stern actually addressed this problem and tightened the reigns on the referees by establishing clear rules on what is and is not a foul and creating total consistency on the calling of fouls. I don’t expect the elimination of human error, I just expect the elimination of fluctuating standards over the course of a game.
If true (and again it's probably not)
this would be exponentially worse than steroids in baseball. In that case some of the players in the league were bending or breaking the rules in order to gain an advantage but the game itself remained viable. Some players remained legit, some didn’t, but it was still baseball and there was still a possibility that a game was legitimate (either because nobody took ‘roids or both sides did equally). In this case the validity of whole league is in question. No player or game, no matter how upright, remains unaffected. They would have corrupted the sport itself.
To translate this into steroid terms, this would have been like the MLB front office itself shipping steroids to the Yankees and Red Sox and ordering every player on them to take them while forbidding the Royals and Angels to take steroids and punishing them if they did.
—Dave
That is why you're a pro
that is the problem boiled down to it’s essence. thanks
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 13, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm OK with it
The best sport finals in the world is the NCAA tournament. Basically, when the refs make it so that series goes to seven; they boil down the NBA playoffs to a one and done game. I like that.
Anyone who is a fan of any team except the Lakers has had to deal with the ref fixing the game. I just learned to accept it and trust in my teams GM to build a team that can overcome the refs and the opponent.
I learned to accept the refs manipulation of the game, as a part of the game.
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow
Yeah
That’s pretty much my thoughts on it too.
The refs can influence, but only so much before it becomes obvious and if you have a really good team, you can over come that. After all, the game is not fixed, just influenced.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
although, to be clear
I don’t believe that I should need to satisfice like that.
I’d prefer to be able to keep my standards high, not lower them year after year.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
True
There will always be refs who hate a player and will call questionable fouls on the guy. It’s the superstar calls that bother me. The trick is to get your own superstar and confuse the refs.
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow
Stern's Tenure
You learn to accept it? Why? We shouldn’t have to accept this BS. But anyway, when I look back on Stern’s tenure, I will remember him as a scumbag who fixed series for the big markets and the big superstars. That is total crap. Ralph Nader should be concerned about this because he was right. The NBA is something that people are interested in and pay money on, and they have the right to the truth. If I was rich and wanted to buy a team, I wouldn’t buy an NBA team, especially a small-market one. I am not paying the league for the privilege of having big playoff games fixed against me. The fans of small market cities, in some cases, pay their tax dollars to go towards new arenas, and they deserve to see their team(if they are good enough) win a ring as much as the **er fans do. No wonder why the NFL is a lot more loved. It had a cheating scandal recently, but that was one team, not the officials. Generally, this BS doesn’t happen in the NFL.
Yep
Poor officiating is just part of the game. If I did not learn to accept it, it would just eat me up inside.
"lowest common denominator - every time I think you hit rock bottom you sink it deeper into the shale" -- bow4meow
No benefit of the doubt
Stern must be in some Bush-like bubble, else he would realize that he needs to back up his assertions with some believable evidence, or at least some argument aside from trashing the source of the accusations. This would be true just because of the history of bad to the point of suspicious officiating, but is reinforced by last year’s ridiculous posturing that Phoenix’s players must be suspended- else officials would have to use judgment (I can’t believe Stu Jackson went to U of O.) But especially after his plainly disingenuous statement that Bennett was sincere in his desire to have the Sonics stay in Seattle and those emails didn’t mean what they clearly said. Does he believe that he can BS everyone or does he foresee an affluent, but stupid fan base?
Yeah. He's in a bu$h-like bubble
A lot of people in positions of power are in a bu$h-like bubble. A fish rots from the head down. Arrogance mixed with power usually result in catastrophe.
I would like to know how we fans can force the NBA to fire Stern and clean up this big mess. We need a new commissioner and an independent referee review board. A board with the power to reprimand, fire, and promote referees based on performance. A board that is totally independent from the NBA.
Enough is enough. Fire David Stern!!
Nature bats last.
by fisheyes on Jun 13, 2008 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Second those motions.
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My point all along
and what I mentioned before on this site multiple times, is that the refs need to have some oversight, accountability, ability to learn and get better and consistancy. There needs to be SOME transparency and technology that won’t slow down the pace of the game needs to be incorporated. Allow five challenges in a game or something and the coaches can decide when to use instant replay to challenge. Reduce it to three. REally, i don’t care what it is, but it needs to be something.
Sterns attitude all along is “we don’t have a problem!” I had a boss like that. I went in and informed him that there were issues that needed to be addressed and he had that same response. I ended up quitting, and my old company ended up going out of business.
The point, though, is that the attitude is a problem because there’s no acknowledgment than there’s unhappiness and there needs to be SOME kind of response that displays the appearance that he cares about the fact that there could be a problem.
Ignoring or dismissing an issue when people have legitimate concerns is NOT the way to deal with such things. It just makes me want to take sharp point objects and puncture his body in areas and then bludgeon him with a leg of ham and then pelt him with rotten eggs before finally having an elephant sit on his head and do his duty to do his doody for god and his country and for the love of the game.
Okay, got off some steam there. Really… I just want Paul Allen to Pritch-Slap the man.
"We play for one thing and one thing only, and that's championships." - The Devil Spawned
Wow Dave
Excellent post. I’ve been reading the edge for about a year now and ironically I found it and joined B-edge when the Donaghy scandal broke. I stepped on a few toes at the time crying “CONSPIRACY CONSPIRACY!!!” Much like Hobobob I was vilified at the time by some and supported by a few. I’m saddened by what appears to be at least a possible confirmation of my worst fears.
Alas, it appears that just as I was stating last summer it is all about the dissolving of the independent referee’s union which Phil Jackson alluded to. As much as I hate Phil Jackson – and believe he uses “Hatchet Men” like Rick Fox and Dennis Rodman – I still think he loves the game and that he wants it fairly reffed. I’m not sure that Stern loves the game or at least I’m not sure he loves the game as much as he loves Power, Control and MONEY.
Your post is excellent because it shows how like the mafia and politicians the league is behaving with a sort of “Bunker Mentality”. The victim is blamed, the canary (Donaghy) is character assassinated, but there is no wheeling out of the evidence Stern always claims he has to back up his assertions. He makes a similar claim of “Trust me I have all the relevant information but won’t share it” much like our current and many past political administrations. The problem is we don’t trust him…at all. Stern doesn’t get it, he is too isolated with wealth and privilege to realize that he is at a critical stage in the development of the league.
Even if there is no vast referee conspiracy I think we ALL know there is Star Treatment and make-up calls. This is a phenomena that crept in not long after Stern took over the league with Magic, Kareem and Bird getting incredible calls in their favor. But even then there still seemed to be minimal referee interference and I rarely heard people “Blame the Zebras”. However, over the past 10 to 15 years, during and after the Jordan era, we have seen a HUGE upswing in that sentiment in the fan base especially in cities that aren’t media darlings. Cynicism about the league and the refs has become almost omnipresent.
It’s funny because Portland has come up in a big way in the world and in this country since the Drexler days and you could see that this year with the way the media treated us. We would have never had an All-Star or have gotten the kind of calls we did this year were this 1994 instead of 2008. I saw many bad calls this year that went in Portland’s favor especially when we were the flavor of the week during the streak. The point is we have gotten to a point to where bad calls have gone beyond a minor annoyance to an expected part of the game. That is a sad state of affairs and something the league should address regardless of the truth of Donaghy’s allegations. It would certainly help bring some faith back to the fan base. Unfortunately, I think Stern has a “Batten down the hatches” attitude rather then opening up the hold so we can all take a peak and see he has nothing to hide but the usual junk any bureaucracy might have.
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