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The Summer of the Point Guard

Kitten_tiny by Dave on

You can see the writing on the wall already.  Unless or until some kind of move happens this is going to be the Summer of Endless Point Guard Discussion.  If you haven't seen Sergio Rodriguez's latest interview chatter check out Blakebilla's diary to the right.  Fascinating stuff.

So given that we're fated to six months of PG chatter, answer me a simple question:

Who is the best Blazer point guard ever?

You can use any criteria you wish.  Please illuminate why you're thinking the way you do.  If you think any of our current guards or any guard we might  pick up could develop some of the things you like in your Greatest PG, let us know that too.

Please do me one favor, though.  Every time we do something like this somebody in the first dozen comments provides a laundry list of every significant player who ever played the position.  They say, "I like Player A for this and Player B was that and Player C..." and so on through Players Q, R, and X until they finally vote, effectively making everybody else's comment superfluous.

I know it's a hard question.  I know you know are an encyclopedia of Blazer point guards.  That's not the point.  (Pun semi-intentional.)  Just pick one and give us a detailed explanation as to why.  Go deep into the subject, not wide.

We'll tally the votes informally at the end of the weekend. 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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My Blazer consciousness started in the mid 80's

so I cannot give any answer other than Terry Porter.

He had no super powers, but he could do everything.

Set up the offense check
Run the fast break check
Defend 1-2 guards of his era check
Finish at the basket check
Hit the open 3 from all angles check
Tough check
Clutch check

Bust-a-Bucket check

by tweener on May 10, 2008 12:20 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

And he could hit is free throws.

When it was nittty-gritty time at the end of games and we absolutely needed a score, I always wanted Porter – not Drexler – to have the play. Without fail, he would try to drive to the basket and if he got fouled you knew he was going to hit the freebies. Of course he was also a clutch outside shooter. I always thought he was the MVP on those deep advancing Blazer teams.

by TwoDeep on May 10, 2008 9:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And

he led the team in assists for five years running. (11th in career assists in the NBA)

I think what I loved most about Terry was his intensity. I see some of the old clips and it brings it all back. He was working hard every minute he was on the floor. I also loved the fact that he never got into it with the refs. I imagine he may have gotten a few technicals in his career, but he never baited the refs or continued a complaint into the next play.

Side note : In ‘90-’91 he was 9th in MVP voting (Clyde was 6th). Terry was tied with Larry Bird. Blazers were the only team with two in the top ten.

He was / is the role model I would pick for my kid. All-time favorite Blazer. And Ben, I’m with you on retiring his jersey. Not just for what he was as a player, but what he was as people.

2nd side note: I also loved Davey Twardzik, but maybe that was because he was cute, and in later years was funny as Schonz’ s sidekick on the broadcasts.

Purring is smiling out loud.

by jorga on May 10, 2008 11:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Terry Porter

Old TP has to be the best point guard ever, and I qualify that in terms of best for the team at the time he was playing. In reality, there may have been more talented point guards on the roster out there (and heeding Dave’s advice, I will let you all mention them in your own comments), but none that fit our roster so well.

Plus:

-Shooting
-Basketball IQ
-Tough Team Defense
-Strength and Size for Position
-Good distributor, but didn’t need ball in his hands
-Clutch
-Great teammate and sportsman

Minus:

-Not very quick

Addressing his minus. I actually question how effective TP would have been in today’s game that is so much more predicated on quickness at the PG spot. Aside from Isaiah Thomas, Kevin Johnson, and TIm Hardaway, point guards in his prime were the bigger bodied, but slower athletes: Magic, Nate, Derek Harper, Kenny Smith, Mark Price, John Paxson, John Stockton (perhaps wasn’t big, but wasn’t overly quick), Mark Jackson, etc. This is why I suggest that TP is the best point guard at the time he played. Whether or not he would have translated to today’s game, he stands out in my mind and will likely remain my all-time favorite Blazer.

by The Graduate on May 10, 2008 12:22 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Agreed about Terry Porter

What you say about speed at point guard might be true—BUT … it clearly isn’t everything. Running the offense is still most important, and other things can compensate for speed.

Think of Brandon Roy - not the fastest guy, but he’s able to leave defenders in the dust because he’s just a consummate, deceptive ball handler. Since I moved east, my other favorite has been Jason Kidd - also not super fast, but I’ve never seen anybody play as all-out as him. In his prime, he was the toughest player I’ve ever seen. And my third favorite was Mark Jackson, who was slow for a guard but was super smart on the court and made a bad team into a good one.

So what I’d say is, the point guard needs to have great fundamentals, play smart, and then have something else going for him as a playmaker. Porter had a great outside jump shot, which opened up the floor, which is still as good as being fast. (Especially if you have other players like Drexler and Kersey who can take advantage.)

by jtanzer on May 10, 2008 5:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pure and Simple Everytime

I came in with Damon. I have nothing against him. He’s just not the greatest, and no one has knocked my socks off, since he left town.

So I have to go with the guy, who will deliver unto us, that which we seek above all else. Many glorious championships. That point guard is Brandon Roy.

Allow me to explain. If Rudy is half the player he is hyped to be, he is better than one-third the starting shooting guards in the NBA. You do not trade a guy with that much talent, and you do not have him coming off the bench. Roy and Rudy are not small forward, they are guards. I believe Nate already said he sees Rudy as a shooting guard (no I do not have a link), and Nate is not known for changing his mind. That leaves the championship point guarding for Roy.

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by tominhawaii on May 10, 2008 12:55 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

This could happen

It seems to be a serious enough possibility that Brandon has addressed it in more than one interview. That could really make Sergio an interesting possibility as the “change of pace guy off the bench” since Brandon seems to thrive when he plays at a slower pace.

Sorry. The direction I am headed is for another fanpost.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 1:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree with you.

From my deep 3 blazermania months.

Since I know that you like the rice with milk, below the door I put a brick.

by amlmart1 on May 10, 2008 7:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Kudos Tom... excellent post

As for the Rudy and Roy dilemma, you bring up some interesting points, but you end up missing the mark.

Roy is not a point guard for several reasons:

1. He is not quick enough (nor is Fernandez- at least defensively) to guard opposing point guards- the Earl Watson, let alone the TPs and Paul’s.

2. We don’t want Roy to have to expend the energy either trying to guard the quick guards or having to bring the ball up the court.

3. The last point guard to wear the #7 jersey came to the position with a lot of promise and hype, but underachieved and was shipped out during the following season (name that Blazer). Do you want that to happen again?

by The Graduate on May 10, 2008 9:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Roy's Quickness

He may have trouble guarding them but they have trouble guarding each other. Imagine them trying to guard Roy in the post.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 9:48 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Agreed...

But would we take advantage of that?

by The Graduate on May 10, 2008 11:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Probably not.

Because that would be mean of us. Not that they wouldn’t other teams are always mean. But we have culture.

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by T Darkstar on May 10, 2008 1:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 3:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No offense Tom, but didn't you

admit you became a Blazer fan only after we drafted Oden? As such, I can understand why your pick is Roy (of course Blake, Jack and Sergio would be options too). But I’ll have to say, after next season Roy might be my pick too.

by TwoDeep on May 10, 2008 10:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nah

That’s the persona I play on Blazers Edge. I actually came on board around 1997.

As for Roy’s defense on the elite point guards in the NBA, I think you have to take them on like San Antonio did at home the other day. Just let him get his points and try to stop everyone else. No team in the NBA is going to have an answer for Chris Paul.

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by tominhawaii on May 10, 2008 2:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I would agree...

but you said it so I have to say that we must have a CP3 stopper if we ever hope to win a championship. Maybe Dooling from Orlando is available. He looks pretty good going against a 40 year old Lindsay Hunter who hasn’t been active for a couple of months.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 3:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Good Point

I also think it is important to build a team based on the needs and strengths of your team. A few years back, every team in the west, was trying to build their team to deal with Shaq, instead of making their team the best team they could be. And as it turned out, the best way to take out a dominant center, is put a self-centered shooting guard next to him.

My point is, that if Brandon Roy as our starting point guard, then the approach with New Orleans and Chris Paul is how do they stop Roy, not how do we stop Paul. We don’t need a defensive point guard, we need a guy who can get the ball to Roy, Aldridge, Oden, and probably Fernandez. The practical solution is to just start the ball in one of those guy’s hands.

The Blazers are going to have plenty of offense so they just need team defense. If we need a defensive stopper, it makes a lot of sense to continue to develop Webster into that roll. Teams don’t draft defensive stoppers, they develop them.

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by tominhawaii on May 10, 2008 6:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ya knows I luvs Marty's butt

I think we have a jewel in ‘im.

A Young, Pure Shooter, Big ‘n Athletic. What I saw this year was a happy young man maturing. The “Web Slinger” has an amazing amount of NBA experience for his age. I think he will have time to digest this season over the summer and bring even more game next season. You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet!

Teams don’t draft defensive stoppers, they develop them.
TiH
Good un, that is the fact ,Jack!

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by BlueBooYay on May 10, 2008 7:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I question that...

How much do teams actually develop defensive stoppers? I mean, sure, they improve as they gain NBA experience, but they came into the league embracing that role. Look at Bruce Bowen when he was drafted by the Heat, Trenton Hassell with the Bulls, Shane Battier with the Grizz. They certainly have gotten better, but they came into the league already fairly advanced defensively. I am not arguing that Martell cannot become an adequate defensive player; he could be adequate. But, he will never be the stopper because you can’t train the mindset. That being said, maybe adequate is all we need?

by The Graduate on May 11, 2008 1:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

A thought on developing "Defensive Stoppers"

Players are developed to their skill set throughout their playing days.
looking at three basic levels of team play High School, College and NBA.
A Player’s role becomes more defined to fit the Team’s needs and the Coaches style. Very gifted athletes tend to dominate the game on both ends of the floor at the High School level and before. At the College level a Player’s role becomes more defined. NBA Coaches Know what kind of programs are being run at the Colleges, for example “The Glove” under Ralph Miller. You know the program is teaching fundamental basketball. ball control, good “D” and pass first “O”.

Players have to be developed to meet the challenge at each level. Bruce and Battier had four years of College to develope their fundamentals. Trenton two. In Marty’s case that developement is happening before our eyes at the NBA level. It seems he was known as a gifted athlete and pure shooter when drafted. Our Coaches have been reported as wanting Marty to develope his defensive skill set. This is definately a Team need and I suspect they see the potential in Marty to fill this role.

Marty’s mindset, heck if I know. He seems to be maturing with each year. He seemed to be happy, relaxed and enjoying his Team. I remember him interrupting pre game interviews and ribbing his Team Mates and the Announcers, having fun. A little success helps a lot at this stage in his developement.

I see too much investment, value and experience in this kid, that would be entering his Senior year of College. I am hoping he keeps developing and becomes Blazer for a long time. A decade from now he will almost be at Bruce’s current age and have a few more years of NBA experience and developement.

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by BlueBooYay on May 11, 2008 8:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Me too...

I with you… I hope Martell is an important part of this team for a long time. I hope I am wrong, and he becomes awesome defensively (and he has far more athleticism than either Bowen or Battier), but he has been told his entire life that his is scorer until now. That can be a tough shift to make. If he can, more power to him, and I will be totally stoked.

by The Graduate on May 11, 2008 8:29 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

After next year

Webster will have had the four years of post high school ball that Roy had coming into the league.

Look at Webster in 2009/10 and imagine that to be his rookie year and then think about his potential.

by raoulduke on May 12, 2008 2:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes

Even in these playoffs it has been suggested that the Spurs take Bowen off of Paul because he can’t stop him anyway and put him on Peja who he can stop. They would still have Paul scoring against Parker but they could focus their energies on weapons other than Paul that they could actually shut down.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 11, 2008 2:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Um, may I point out something ...

Rudy F. has never played a day in the NBA. You can have high hopes for him, but you just don’t know how he’s going to work out. Let’s try to keep those fantasies in check until reality arrives, eh?

by jtanzer on May 10, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Too Late

I’m not just drinking the Kevin Pritchard Kool-Aid, I’m snorting the condensed powder.

I’m honestly considering starting a cult based on his teachings. If The Fonz can have his own church, KP deserves one.

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by tominhawaii on May 10, 2008 6:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Is it with the sugar already added or straight up?

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by T Darkstar on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

KP

Is all the sweetener I need.

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by tominhawaii on May 11, 2008 7:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Blazer PGs

It seems like we had a pretty good run with decent PGs here in Blazerland.

Terry Porter
Rod Strickland
Kenny Anderson
Damon Stoudamire

The last three PGs named with off-court/attitude issues.

Well…except recently, The Blake Era, Jack’s Turn, The Blake Era Returns.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on May 10, 2008 1:05 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Ever?

Terry Porter. This team? Steve Blake.

by coastrider on May 10, 2008 1:39 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Gotta be TP

But the best PG that might have been was Fat Lever. I still am bitter that the Blazers kept Darnell Valentine over Fat Lever when they made the trade for Kiki. Darnell wasn’t horrible but Lever was smooth, more athletic, and was much more versatile than Valentine. He could score, pass, play defense and rebound and had a good five year run in Denver in the mid 80s running and gunning with the team made up of mostly former Blazers.

Porter may not have had the talent of Strickland, Anderson and maybe even Lionel Hollins but I would place him at the top because his run was the longest and most successful of any of those guys. He could shoot the long ball, run the break, set up the offense and get guys the ball where they could score and he stepped into the leadership role that Clyde never really wanted.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 1:45 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Good call on Fat

I was reading a book on the ‘84 draft, recently. The author went back and tracked the pre-draft strategies of the teams and key players (Including the Blazers-Inman-Bowie, etc.) One of the reasons the team included Lever in the Vandeweghe deal was that they had scouted Stockton and were ready to take him with the 19th pick in the draft. (Unfortunately, they didn’t know that Utah was high on him, since the Jazz already had a good PG named Green) Inman called the Jazz up right after the Stockton pick, wondering if they had picked John to deal him. No such luck, and Inman’s urgent call only helped them conclude that Stockton was a keeper.

And the rest is history.

Lionell Hollins wasn’t a true point guard, but he deserves a mention here, because he was in the same class as Porter and Lever.

by two4larue on May 12, 2008 1:32 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

TP

I saw him win more games by making clutch free throws…...He was maybe not the most athletic, but he was the best.

by blakejnd on May 10, 2008 6:54 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

lionel hollins

he certainly was the best defensive pg we’ve ever had, able to dominate games by his lockdown, harassing defense. witness how in the championship season he overwhelmed the backcourts of the l*kers and 76ers, to such a degree that one could never those other players in the same way.

he was also a clutch scorer, fearless, smart and tough. he didn’t have the longest career but you have to remember that in those days 4 years of college preceded the draft.

lionel hollins led that team every bit as much as did walton and lucas.

ignacio

by ignacio on May 10, 2008 7:21 AM PDT reply reply   1 recs

Yep.

"We comin along." Travis Outlaw

by annthefan on May 10, 2008 9:45 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hollins played some at the one but

it was mostly Twardzik and Johny Davis who manned the point on that team.

by TwoDeep on May 10, 2008 10:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pinball is Money, Baby

There won’t be another #13 ever.

He was the Man!

Lil’ Train could ball and “D” but Pinball is our “Championship PG”.

Schonz nicked him for a reason, he took it to the hoop and scored!

Weren’t no 3 point line back than but the boy could shoot it, inside & out.

His true shootin’ % was the Highest in the NBA the year we won it all (yah better ‘n Abdul-Jabbar).

He was my hero. I just knew we where all right, when the ball was in his hands. He was “My Man” the one I could relate to. He had my complete trust. AGM in Orlando, way to go & God bless ya!

‘70’s Hippie cute to swoon over…

Reference 1

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Pic o’ the ODU days

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by BlueBooYay on May 10, 2008 12:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I want a great PG...

... just to see what it would feel like. But we’ll have a complementary PG as long as Brandon is in the backcourt here, which isn’t so bad…

by flightrisk on May 10, 2008 8:34 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

TP
30.

Best Blazer PG ever.

Blake brings it up on the right, swings it to Webster on the elbow, he moves around the key and passes to the low left block for Aldridge, Aldridge jukes baseline, turns back in and finds Roy cutting down the seam, ROY THROWS IT UP AT THE RIM FOR ODEN WHO THROWS IT DOWN FOR THE TWO HANDED MONSTER JAM!!! BOOM-SHAKA-LAKA!!! -Wheeler '08-'09

i can't wait

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on May 10, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I became a blazer fan in the 90's

so Rod Strickland was the point then. I think he was the best true point guard ever since. Rod could go inside and finish or find some one. He just looked comfortable doing his job, and it looked easy too.

by RipCity on May 10, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Strickland

Most Blazer fans will have negative memories re: Rod, but you’re right, he was Chris Paul-like in his ability to penetrate and he could squeeze layups up and through the taller defenders arms like nobody’s business! Strickland’s pick-and-rolls with Sabonis were the stuff of legend, but at the end of the day Rod was probably too much of a head case to ever be a starting PG on a championship team (ask the Spurs about his no-look pass, etc)

by two4larue on May 12, 2008 1:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

A TIE -

Between TP and Strickland for best ever IMO but my favorite would have to be Damon. Mighty Mouse! MIGHTY MOUSE!!! He went to the same high school that I did and he loved his Grandma. For a JAILBLAER he wasn’t so bad.

The pot smoking situation that he set up with Canzano the prove he quit smoking it was a cool thing I think. A pretty good dude all around, he got a bad rap, I mean yeah… he made stupid mistakes but they were magnified and he looked worse because of all the stuff the other, and worse knuckleheads that were on the team were doing. I liked him when he was on the team and still do. A pretty good guy.

We will never see another player quite like John Stockton. Never.

by doublezeroduck on May 10, 2008 11:28 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I was going to ...

Sarcastically vote for Rod Strickland because of all of the bs he put us through, but some previous posts have reminded me that despite his transgressions the dude could ball. Porter was my favorite member of the late ‘80s/early ‘90s teams because of his levelheadedness and clutchicity, so he was probably the best I can remember. I’m a Wilson High grad too, though (hey doublezeroduck) so Damon has some emotional pull with me. Again for all of his issues, he could really play and I enjoyed watching him with those Sheed/Pippen teams that made a real push for a ring.

by kickbrass on May 10, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

There's no doubt...

Terry Porter is the best Trail Blazers’ point guard in history, and it’s too bad he hasn’t had his number retired yet.
The guy was probably our most clutch player ever, maybe even more so that Clyde at times. His fast break pull-up three-pointers were deadly, and I loved every part of his game. Wisconsin Stevens-Point forever!

by alex42083 on May 10, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

well since the local media

has already dubbed TP as the greatest pg ever in a blazer uniform it must be so…. the one good thing about trader bob was that he loved premium guards..were spoiled..I bet the next guard we have comes from a big time school and has faced big time pressure during his college year…a one and done guy..but as far as greatest…I have to admit that i loved rod strickland as a player..total arse hole in life (first hand knowledge)

if it can be conceived it can be achieved

by lyfefindsaway on May 10, 2008 1:01 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

So...

Since the local media has said it, it can’t be true?

Who is better? Strickland? What would be your criteria? I don’t understand your post.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

from 77 until then.

Still, I have a hard time imagining any of them were better than Porter.

For me, this is a no -brainer.

by timg56 on May 10, 2008 4:12 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

point guard

I think brandon roy and sf rudy at sg and la at pf and oden at center best pg is terry porter hands down mybe the blazers could put a deal to get rose in the draft with trading raef and are back up pg and a good backup player to let go of some log jam at sf spot not sure if a team would do the trade but sounds like a good trade to me if rose is as good as everyone is saying

by broy on May 10, 2008 5:37 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I wonder what John Nash would do if he read this

Rose is a potentially a franchise changing point guard, I don’t think anyone is giving up that pick. Not after watching what Chris Paul and Tony Parker, are doing in the playoffs. I still want KP to ask. That’s just due diligence. No GM in their right mind, and wanting to keep his job, will trade away that pick.

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by tominhawaii on May 10, 2008 6:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Which is why it's a good thing we're winning the first pick outright.

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by T Darkstar on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey fatty, welcome back! Could you please insert some punctuation next time?

Trade Freeland!

by rockingharder on May 10, 2008 8:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Seriously

No periods or nuthin. Check that guy’s IP address. I bet it is from NY.

by Sabonis4Ever on May 10, 2008 10:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Fatty!!!!!!!

Is that you boy! With a small bit of humility added to the unforgettable grammatic structure?

Welcome home, Sailor.

Perfect practice makes perfect.

by Ojala John on May 12, 2008 8:05 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I have to go with Hollins

it’s close between Hollins and Porter for me, but Lionel was extremely quick and was also easily the best defensive PG portland has ever had. If he was playing right now in his prime he’s be considered to be at the same defensive level as Payton.

However, just for fun and because i can’t resist, if I was design a best all-time blazer team (prime) it would be roy, drexler, pippen, lucas and walton…they wouldn’t need no stinking PG!

and to fill out the 8-man rotation I’d bring TP, Kiki, and Sabas off the bench!!...:)

by moldorf on May 10, 2008 6:22 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

And Train has a ring!

Dave and Johnny and Herm Gilliam all brought different skills but Lionel was our PG, I do remember sweeping the L*kers with speed and more speed – especially Davis. Until we have another OBrien trophy I will forsake my greatest love (Porter) and vote for Lionel.

Aldridge said. "We feel like we can beat any team. We feel like we can beat the Spurs, Suns, Lakers, Mavericks, whoever any night right now, and we'll still be here when those teams get old and their guys retire. We're going to be here for a long time."

by lee3022 on May 12, 2008 2:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Terry Porter

I'm going to have to let you go. Too much flax seed in my morning shake.

by oderiferous emanations 74 on May 10, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I just have to say:

I ♥ Terry Porter

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by T Darkstar on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Well, it worked on my end.

Tom, have you had your dog ♠?

One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season

"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on May 10, 2008 7:37 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Here's one strong PG view that I'm not shifting on...

.....................Sergio needs to get the hell out of Dodge. There is NO GOOD that can be achieved by keeping a petulant bricklayer around.

t

"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08

by timbo on May 10, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

What if we need some masonry?

And what about brick and mortar businesses?! You don’t want those internet businesses to win do you? DO YOU!? You know the type of people who frequent those places. Sits by their computer all day, trying to come up with witty things to put on sports blogs. I can’t stand those guys.

I had an on-topic comment to add, but I’ve done forgotten it.

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Yeah, gone. Sorry.

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by T Darkstar on May 10, 2008 7:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

been watching the ptb for 17 years now

and noone got to the rim better than strickland, he was our best player for a couple of years…still it’s no contest, Porter along with buck were the heart and soul of those teams…best blazer PG since…Greg Anthony

uwe blab

by midget on May 10, 2008 9:13 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I've gotta admit

I loved Greg Anthony when he played for the Blazers. Big time. I do think he was one of the best PG’s they’ve had since TP.

by jamon51 on May 12, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Terry Porter.

You know all the love that Chauncey “Mr. Big Shot” Billups gets from the national media? Well on more than one occasion I’ve heard him referred to as “this generation’s Terry Porter.” Now that’s some ESPN love.

Jerry Sloan is a complete and total smeg head.

by GustyJ on May 10, 2008 11:04 PM PDT reply reply