I still say if we could just get LeBron James and Chris Paul then all the holes in our roster would be filled.

That they are a team for the now that is a good wing away from 50+ wins. I kinda agree with that sentiment as well. They SHOULD be a better team, but the Bargnani pick really hurts thus far (he still might become good though) and the PG conundrum really hurt the team chemistry. They have the same record as us in the weak East, but they got good players and are capable of being a good East team if they can somehow manage to get, I dunno, SOME wing who can score decently but defend more importantly.

So, they gotta figure out the PG problem, and hopefully get a good SG/SF out of it. I don’t see them trading to anyone they deem a rival… Celtics, Nets, Philly, etc. No Atlantic division mates, and probably no Eastern conference friends.

Why do you think they might feel like they are 3 years away? I might have missed something, but I’m pretty sure Colangelo is trying to win now and build on the 47-win Atlantic division winning team of last season. This year was a disappointment, so the pressure to win now is probably even greater than before. I don’t think they’ll trade Bargnani; him being good is still too important for the franchise ego and all. They can’t give up on him yet, nor do I think they should—he isn’t gonna be as good as LMA or Roy or Gay, but he SHOULD be a good scorer. The best bet to get better, and to solve the PG problem means trading Ford or Calderon, with Calderon being more tradeable because he can fall and probably not die. It helps US that Calderon wants to start and be on a good team, and the Raptors will likely be willing to oblige this wish as long as it doesn’t go to a rival and they get a good wing player back.

Celtics don’t have anyone Toronto would want in a trade for Calderon, out of the big 3. Same with Cleveland. Who would they want from the Lakers, if the Lakers probably didn’t prefer Fisher’s veteran guile and Farmar’s popularity? I am sure I need to do more research before I can be sure we’re the best option, but we got a great mix of youth people want with contracts that go down smooth, and lotsa draft picks. PLUS we’re gonna be good, making us a target for someone like Calderon. It could all work out where everyone gets what they want.

Well, I guess we can cancel the draft picks part, because we can’t do a sign and trade until after the draft, right? Hmmmmm…

I just think Toronto needs to win more now, and we got what they could possibly want and Calderon would want to play here over a Boston or Cleveland, if Toronto was even willing to trade him to one of those teams (which I seriously doubt). From reading media blogs and fan sites, Toronto wants to be right in the playoff/contender mix.

I dunno why, but I’ve always kinda like the Raptors and their devoted fans that write into every sports pundit who talks bad about them; it kinda reminds me of the Blazer fans I guess. I follow them a little bit. I thought they’d be close to 50 wins this recent season, because I expected Bargnani to get better and the team to be more well rounded than they were before. Unfortunately, they got lots of shooters but very few athletes and get killed on defense and don’t play fast enough to utilize their offense. They just should be better than they were…

Mortimer

I read that as “Jorga” the first time and was really confused.

“menacing gesture” Paul Pierce made toward Horford?

I think, therefore I’m right.

If I think you’re wrong, obviously you must not be thinking. This explains the mystery that is the O-Live forum.

I was just poking fun at it. It is a catch-phrase, and justifies everything, unless of course its against you. While admittedly, there are many positive aspects to post-modernism, it has become an excuse to not engage in meaningful dialogue and to set ones own self up as a god.