The Small Forward Quandary
There are two positions on this team that people almost universally acclaim as unsettled. Point Guard has evoked a ton of visceral discussion in the past year compared to the other: small foward. It seems clear that this will be one of the crucial decisions to be made in the next year and a half.
The candidates so far:
Travis Outlaw: A gifted leaper and explosive scorer who is better at getting his own shot than anyone on the team outside of Brandon Roy himself. He's a career 44% shooter who has recently developed a couple semi-consistent moves and range out to the three-point arc. His rebounding would be good for a small foward. His help defense can be good at times but his individual defense and understanding of the game are still raw. Without the ball in his hands and a green light he's far less effective. There's some question whether he's a power foward or small foward but he shows the most promise of any of the candidates and his stats have generally increased season-by-season.
Martell Webster: A good three-point shooter with athleticism. He's been working on improving his defense, rebounding, and overall shooting with some success. He tallied career highs in shooting and three-point shooting this year but his career percentage is low for a shooter. He could have a ton of upside. He has trouble creating off the dribble and this may never be a strength. When plays are run for him he's often deadly but when he has to improvise he struggles.
James Jones: A veteran three-point specialist who spreads a defense with the mere rumor of his presence. His distance shooting is unparalleled on the team (and nearly in the league). He's also smart and experienced enough to be in the right place at the right time. He knows how to get his shots. He has yet to produce consistently in a full NBA season. He lacks the athletic prowess of the other two. When he's not hitting threes his intimidation factor goes way down but he is less susceptable to bottoming out than the other two are. He also has far less upside.
Somebody Else On the Team: Do Brandon Roy or Rudy Fernandez have the ability, athleticism, size, and desire to play here? Would that be better for the team in the long run?
Somebody Else Entirely: Have we yet to sign our starting small foward? Is some of that cap room in 2009 earmarked for a free agent at this position? If so, whom? Or...are we drafting our small foward of the future with our (hopefully) final lottery pick for a while? Again...whom?
Here are the questions:
1. Which one of these options will be our starting small forward of the future?
2. What happens to the remaining options already on our team? Will they be back-ups or play at other positions? Will they be cut or traded?
3. What qualities are we looking for in a small forward exactly? Again, people seem to have pretty definite opinions about the kind of point guard we need. Is there a general consensus about small forward as well?
Have at it.
--Dave
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Plenty of options
1. I think Martell actually has the best shot (possibly James Jones…). Travis Outlaw, if he stays (and I hope he does), I think is better suited to being a sparkplug off the bench. They could possibly bring in someone else, and to be honest, I could see them trading for a point guard this summer and then using the leftover cap space next summer to consider a small forward upgrade (consider is the key word there).
2. There is no way that in two seasons all three of these players remain on the roster (unless of course we determine that Travis is in fact a power forward- a decision I would question at this point). Each of three is too talented to be 11th or 12th men. As much as I hate to provoke ann and sabonis, I fear that Travis is the odd man out as bait for a point guard- I hope not, but that is the way I see it rolling.
by The Graduate on
May 7, 2008 11:52 PM PDT
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I don't know...
trading Outlaw seems like an overeaction. With Rudy and Oden coming in next year it is very likely that we can get by without trading Outlaw or Webster.
Westbrook might be enough and he could be had for Jack.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on
May 8, 2008 12:16 AM PDT
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I am provoked!
"We comin along." Travis Outlaw
by annthefan on
May 8, 2008 2:21 AM PDT
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If looks could kill.
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by T Darkstar on
May 8, 2008 9:41 AM PDT
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Trout is Vulcan !!!
I say we wait until he has fully developed the “Mind Meld” technique.
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by BlueBooYay on
May 11, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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Instant defense off the bench.
Josh Childress would be an upgrade. We don’t need a superstar, we need a super role player. He has an inhuman 57% field goal shooting average, great offensive rebounding skills, and near perfect defense. It would be hard to find a better role player than Josh Childress.
I take comfort in the fact that Martell Webster has improved every single year. By the time he is 30 he should be the perfect fit for this team.
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by Winchester on
May 8, 2008 12:01 AM PDT
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Oh, come on
He’s only 21. If he bumps up his shooting percentages (both 3pt and overall) by 2% again next year he’ll be solid, if he gains 2% the year after, he’ll be excellent at the age of 23.
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by jscot on
May 8, 2008 5:58 AM PDT
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I like Childress
What would it take to get him?
by jamon51 on
May 8, 2008 11:17 AM PDT
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You realize Childress is the same player as when he was drafted, right?
I’ll take an improving 21 year old over a pretty good, though stagnant older guy who can’t hit 3s.
by bfan on
May 9, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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SF with Rudy and Roy backcourt...
This does not immediately pertain to the specific questions that Dave asked, but I think it factors in to the small forward quandry. One of our biggest concerns with a Roy and Rudy backcourt is the ability to defend quicker point guards. I remember back in the old Phoenix-San Antonio series, Phoenix had Marion guard Parker and San Antonio had Bowen guard Nash with some success. Likewise, the Spurs are now trying (with much less success) to contain Paul with Bruce Bowen.
Back to the subject at hand: if in fact we use a starting backcourt of Rudy and Roy, perhaps we would want a longer and laterally quicker small forward (none of whom exists on the roster currently) to match up on those quick (Paul, Nash, Parker, etc,) or oversized point guards (DW, Billups, etc.). Just throwing that out there, what do you guys think?
by The Graduate on
May 8, 2008 12:02 AM PDT
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I agree.
We don’t really need a super defender PG as long as we have some other guys who can step up and stop the other teams smaller guards. The Hornets have done a great job of this on Parker.
I think Oden will help make our SF look good, but it would still be nice to have another defender on the floor.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on
May 8, 2008 12:12 AM PDT
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this is a position
where there shouldn’t be any change…..unless something mind-blowing arises of course. they’re all still relatively young, let em grow, see who and what works for another year. the main concern is who is going to guard d will and c paul for the next 10 years? throw in d rose as well. honestly, jack isn’t that bad a defender, so far, he’s played them well. he seriously stepped up to skinner too, and i haven’t seen a blazer do that for a while (not since joel). i say keep him for another year as well, unless…of course,,,something mind-blowing arises
uwe blab
by midget on
May 8, 2008 12:47 AM PDT
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I agree
Pritchard hinted at being able to just let the game come to him, that with his pieces he dosent have to be agressive, that his phone would ring tomarrow. the fealling was that if another team was able to lure him in to a deal he could not refuse, he would play, but that he probably would not trade just to trade. in an interview with his assistant it was mentioned about the possibility of having a lot of cap room in 09, and that would allow the blazers to be a real player. at the time of the interview, it sounded like they were going over all the possibilities of who will be available then. if no one shows up offering something rediculas, we just might wait. I mean, if we were just now drafting rudy and oden, we would be retarded excited, but since we allready have them, we kinda take it for granted. I hope we wait.
In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.
CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on
May 9, 2008 8:47 PM PDT
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Answers to questions
1. Which one of these options will be our starting SF of the future?
They are under contract for another year.
Continue to monitor their levels of production and improvement for best choice by end of the coming season.
Using the 1st pick, draft a SF who has many of those missing qualities needed by the current SFs.
This will add competitive pressure to ensure maximum effort from current players.
2. What happens to the remaining options already on our team? Will they be back-ups or play at other positions? Will they be cut or traded?
Trade any that seem to regress. Keep the best 2-3 after the end of coming season
3. What qualities/strengths are we looking for in a small forward exactly?
• Unselfishness
• Perimeter defense
• Stat-stuffing role-player potential
• Ability to create separation from defender
• Finishing ability
• Court vision
• Freakish athleticism
• Outstanding wingspan
• Mid-range game
• Transition play
• Cuts to the basket
• Basketball IQ
by spencerbutte on
May 8, 2008 1:15 AM PDT
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always with the batum
you know who’s scouting report reads the same way? boris diaw. and diaw was a headcase too. that’s who the blazers would be drafting. boris diaw. in fact, we’ll call him “Nicolas Boris Diaw Batum” and the team won’t bother putting Batum’s name on the back of his jersey. it’ll be Diaw on the back. And we’ll say “this guy has talent, its a shame he doesn’t have the killer instinct, just like Boris Diaw”. And then we’ll say, this guy is just like another French player we know, Boris Diaw. In fact, why even bother drafting Batum? lets just trade for Diaw. Then we won’t have to wait the year or two it’ll take Batum to become Boris Diaw. And we’d all be a lot happier.
by dp8039 on
May 8, 2008 9:44 AM PDT
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and no offense against diaw
he’s an ok player. does a little of everything. just he really hasn’t put it together and did not reach his supposedly limitless potential because of some psychological aversion to being a leader.
by dp8039 on
May 8, 2008 9:50 AM PDT
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Why do you think Batum is a headcase?
I’ve never heard that said about him. The main criticism I’ve heard is a lack of a reliable jumpshot.
by EngineerScotty on
May 8, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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his draftexpress profile
(http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nicolas-Batum-537/) portrays him as inconsistent, lacking aggression, and having the tendency to drift or lose confidence during games:
“Batum should be topping this chart, he should have taken this edition of the Euroleague by storm. Nobody, not a single player, comes close to combining his physical gifts and skill repertoire. Instead, we’re hearing an already familiar tune: inconsistency, a certain lack of character and… perhaps some softness(?) mixed in with stretches of impressive play that only a freakish athlete like him is capable of deliver.”
It’s understandable, given that he’s only 19 years old. That being said, his major weaknesses (confidence/consistency, ball-handling) seem to basically mirror Martell’s. So why get a younger Martell when we already have a slightly older one with NBA experience who has begun to grow out of these problems? Batum’s an intriguing talent, but he’s a project, not a solution.
by abdelnaby on
May 8, 2008 1:39 PM PDT
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Martell, without his shooting
and could not spread out the floor
by raging WebTed on
May 8, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
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"basically mirror Martell’s" - NOT!
Batum is not a bigtime scorer, yet – Martell is not a bigtime scorer, yet.
Both do share confidence/consistency and ball-handling weaknesses.
But these as the Strengths that Batum HASand Martell does NOT:
• Perimeter defense
• Stat-stuffing role-player potential
• Ability to create separation from a defender
• Finishing ability
• Court vision
• Freakish athleticism
• Outstanding wingspan
• Mid-range game
• Transition play
• Cuts to the basket
• Basketball IQ
by spencerbutte on
May 8, 2008 6:29 PM PDT
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Here are Batums Stats
Min PTS FG% FT% 3Pt 3PtA 3P% Reb Asts Stls TOs
26.5 8.5 45.3 66.7 0.7 2.4 29.0 3.5 2.7 1.5 2.0
Where is there any indication that he will be anything more than a role player?
If he cant stand out in Europe, why will he be so great on a 50?? win team in the NBA?
There is no problem with advocating for us to use a mid first round pick that we could aquire to get him, but there is no ground to stand on to say that he is better than Outlaw and Webster.
by raging WebTed on
May 9, 2008 12:07 AM PDT
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Finding value with the 13th pick
If Batum had accumulated standout stats, he would be not there at #13.
In choosing from a group of 19 to 22 year olds in the late lottery area, it’s all about spotting potential. One of the main reasons that Batum is projected to go between 10 to 20 is his lack of a big scoring stat. That stat alone can project a player into the top 5.
You have to look into what strengths a player “brings” in order to find the best pick at 13.
by spencerbutte on
May 9, 2008 8:47 AM PDT
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hummm...
You are talking about a role playing Euroleague player over a NBA role player with so much conviction… But, if Martell was playing in the Euroleague can you say co-MVP (with Rudy of course).
Joel Freeland=Stud
by hightide on
May 9, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
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haha
I thought you wrote bynum. heh. batum=bynum oden=odom right?
by Sabonis4Ever on
May 8, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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Charater assassination
First you label Boris Diaw as a “headcase”. Than you try to tag Batum with the same label.
Do you personally know either player?
Have you ever talked to Batum or know someone that has?
Have you ever read a psychological workup on Batum?
If the answer is no to all of the above,
be very careful what you so casually place into print.
Let’s look at the negatives you use to back up your label of “headcase”
“its a shame he doesn’t have the killer instinct, just like Boris Diaw".
We need a team-player at SF. Not a big time scorer. Batum has not consistently taken over at the end of a game. He’s 19. The Blazers don’t need that ability from the SF position. We have Roy, Aldridge, and Oden to do that. Batum could in time become the fourth player with that capability.
“this guy is just like another French player“
That’s just pure prejudice and doesn’t require further comment.
by spencerbutte on
May 8, 2008 6:16 PM PDT
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In His Defense
I think picking on the French is the only thing left in the world, that is somewhat offensive and socially acceptable.
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by tominhawaii on
May 8, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
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Sometimes your comments are quite – and sometimes that are in just bad taste.
by spencerbutte on
May 8, 2008 6:33 PM PDT
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Sometimes your comments are qute – and sometimes they are in just bad taste.
by spencerbutte on
May 8, 2008 6:43 PM PDT
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Thanks
I accept that as one my roles here at Blazers Edge.
If you really want to be offended; you should read some of my older stuff. Boy howdy, was I ever obnoxious!
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by tominhawaii on
May 8, 2008 6:52 PM PDT
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Tom may not be PC with this comment
but he is essentially correct. Even our revered, omnipotent, benevolent, brilliant president has made fun of the french in some of the pearls of wisdom he lets fall from his firm and noble lips. Remember “freedom fries”?
"We comin along." Travis Outlaw
by annthefan on
May 8, 2008 7:30 PM PDT
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It's True
go to www.google.com and type in “French military victories” then click “I’m Feeling Lucky.”
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by tominhawaii on
May 8, 2008 7:54 PM PDT
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That is almost as funny as My Name Is Earl
no….its funnier.
by Sabonis4Ever on
May 8, 2008 8:01 PM PDT
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No Way
It worked for me and it’s not naughty.
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by tominhawaii on
May 9, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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Did you just defend TiH by comparing him to Dubya?
Maybe the Bush-says-things-just-like-this factor is a “bad thing”.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on
May 8, 2008 8:22 PM PDT
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OMG! I'm so sorry! that was not my intent!
I would never compare Mr. inHawaii to a saint like our president who’s image is going to end up on Mt. Rushmore.
http://powerline.blogspot.com/BushMt.Rushmore.jpg
I’m at work so I can’t put that sainted image into this post so a link will have to do.
"We comin along." Travis Outlaw
by annthefan on
May 8, 2008 8:43 PM PDT
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Sounds like a personal problem you have there Spence.
tom is never in bad taste. Foolishly stupid at times (Charleton, bottle, 16 yr old Hawaian surfer dude), but never in bad taste.
Although I must say tom, if one is to pick on anybody, I say it should be the Chinese. No where else does one have to opportunity to offend so many.
by timg56 on
May 9, 2008 6:47 AM PDT
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No personal problem with tominhawaii
Some never found Don Rickles in bad taste either.
Using an ethnic joke in a comedic situation CAN be taken for what it is worth.
Backing up that use to degrade a person I find unacceptable.
by spencerbutte on
May 9, 2008 9:09 AM PDT
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Sometimes your comments are quite – and sometimes that ar…....DAMN someone beat me to it!! That was what I was going to say, TWICE
by SpyderRyder on
May 8, 2008 8:35 PM PDT
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Sounds like Travis.
except for the defense and Basketball IQ.
Although Travis is getting a little bit of a perimeter game going too. I’m not opposed to drafting Batum, if we trade for a second pick in the #13 range. Maybe the Kings relinquish #13 for some of our leftovers? But I don’t know that Batum contributes immediately. Travis already has the NBA experience and all.
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by T Darkstar on
May 8, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
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Perimeter Defense and BB-IQ are much needed strengths at SF.
Batum doesn’t have to contribute immediately. He only needs to demonstrate those additional skills in practice in order to pressure Webster, Outlaw, and Jones into improving theirs.
Batum has to improve his, shooting, dribbling, and confidence, otherwise he has the full package of a SF. He comes at a discount price for 3 years while the other 3 SFs are renegotiating their contracts.
I call that added insurance.
by spencerbutte on
May 8, 2008 7:02 PM PDT
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Really, you sound like an advertisement
trying to sell us Batum
by raging WebTed on
May 8, 2008 10:25 PM PDT
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Childress and Battier
If you are of the camp that believes the talented and young Webster and Outlaw are not quite as talented, or as young, as it may appear, then I think Childress and Battier are good options to look at.
They both play good defense and are the kind of offensive player that doesn’t take touches away from your stars, and I think that’s what we need.
How obtainable they are is entirely a separate issue, but they’re not LBJ unreachable.
by rmcdougall on
May 8, 2008 5:59 AM PDT
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SF
1. one of two options, IMO: Travis or somebody else entirely. With the lineup we have, we need a good perimeter defender more than anything, so I would predict that somebody else entirely will take the slot. I like the idea of someone like Josh Childress. He’s an RFA and Atlanta isn’t going to want to pay him as much as he might get elsewhere (they have to sign Josh Smith already, who will get big bucks). We have a wealth of young talent—got to give some up to get something back. I’d do a sign-and-trade for Childress with Webster and Jack in a heartbeat. Put Childress in the first unit and Outlaw in the 2nd unit, where he has shown he can thrive.
2. I don’t see Webster dealing well with being in the 2nd unit. Last year there was a lot of talk about leaving Webs in the starting lineup because he would lose confidence or whatever coming off the bench. For this reason, I would include him in a trade for a whatever-it-takes kind of player (such as Childress). I think Jones will opt out, and we’d be foolish to let Travis go, unless we have the chance to get an all-star.
3. First and foremost we need a perimeter defender. Childress would be great, and obtainable, I think. We know the core: BRoy, LA and GO. We have some dynamic scorers to complement them: Travis and Rudy (yeah, I know, counting our chickens, but still). Good fit role players: Blake, Przy and Frye. Add in a perimeter defender, and we’re getting very close.
BTW, I’m no Martell hater—I like him, I think he has a future in the league. But if I’m doing a forced choice of what value to trade, I’d choose Martell and JJack.
by BrailleTaser on
May 8, 2008 7:28 AM PDT
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Hawks could be good trade partner
With Jack being a GA Tech alumni he might be attractive to the Hawks as a back up to Mike Bibby. Childress would be a great player to get back in that trade and would fit the Blazers well. However, this leaves the Blazers without a player (besides Roy) who can get to the bucket at will and contribute from the free throw line. It may be dangerous to assume (remember Bellinelli was supposed to come in and contribute right away in Golden State) but Rudy could possibly fill that role. I think Jack’s a great player and I would hate to see him live up to his potential for another team but at least it would be a team in a different conference!
by rip_city_fan on
May 8, 2008 8:13 AM PDT
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An upgrade at driving the lane.
Childress is much better at getting to the basket than Jack. He also converts from there at a much higher rate. He is much taller, can jump almost like Travis, and handles the ball as well as Jack. He would add a 3rd ball handler to our starting lineup. Only downside would be long range shooting.
I doubt if Jack would be enough for the Hawks, so we would need to add someone else, or our #13 pick. I would rather include Jones than Martell or Travis, and my second choice would be the pick.
I am assuming that Battier would come for a much higher price.
by crakarjack on
May 8, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
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I like Childress too
See above for proof, but I think you may be overrating his handling ability. He’s not bad, but I don’t see him as being a ball-handler like either of our guards would be.
by rmcdougall on
May 8, 2008 3:10 PM PDT
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No,
he isn’t a point guard, but the Hawks have him run the point some of the time. I think the point is that he is a much better ball handler than any of our current SF.
If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley
by Winchester on
May 8, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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tough question
biggest need is perimeter defense, although it looked pretty good during the streak and I believe it was a zone.
I say let the three of them ride one more year and see the impact on that perimeter defense GO has.
All three have great attributes: for a while TO was Mr. 4th quarter, Jones was Mr. clutch, and MW, is still young enough to keep.
by rburg on
May 8, 2008 8:24 AM PDT
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4 quick thoughts
I think Outlaw is a PF, off the bench, instant offense, sparkplug.
I think if we upgrade SF Blake/Jack is fine
I think if we upgrade PG Webster is fine
I would be interested in Childress and Deng (more attainable than people think).
Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...
by porterfan30 on
May 8, 2008 8:36 AM PDT
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I think I get what he is saying.
If we upgrade SF position, then we will be fine with Blake/Jack as our PG. And visa-versa.
by RipCity on
May 8, 2008 10:10 PM PDT
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Oh, Dave.
This is a large forward quandary!
Count me in the ‘not convinced we need an upgrade’ camp. One more year with Trout, Marty and JJ3, and we’ll know who deserves to stay or go. My guess is that we let JJ walk, Trout continues to emerge but gets much of his minutes at backup PF, and Martell becomes a genuine minor star.
Trade Freeland!
by rockingharder on
May 8, 2008 9:20 AM PDT
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And Frye?
He sits on the bench as a fifth-wheel big man in case somebody goes down injured? We’ve seen in the not-so-distant past that too much talent is not necessarily a good thing—different group of guys, Frye handled his role this year with aplomb, but why potentially poison the well? Not to mention that it’ll reduce any trade value he would have otherwise had to ride the pine for a year behind Senor Chucks-a-Lot. I think you gotta prune the roster this off-season to maximize value and get the entire team on the same page moving forward. (I agree with your guess, having said all that). We’ll see if KP and co. agree with mine.
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May 8, 2008 3:13 PM PDT
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Reports from midseason said KP
was pushing hard to try to get Danny Granger. Which fits pretty perfectly with what I think we need, which is a quality two way player at the 3, with defense being slightly more important than offense. Granger’s good but not the kind of core building block for rebuilding that Indiana needs - he’s a second or third banana, not the top dawg- so I think they might be receptive to a trade that involves salary relief, picks, and young cheap players. Maybe if we take some of their bad seeds to buy out using paul allen’s money, too.
Other possibilities: Josh Howard, Shane Battier (although Shane’s maybe a little too crappy on teh offensive end to call a 2 way guy – more pure defensive stopper ala Bowen or Bell). Dream player would be Tay Prince. I have high hopes for Jared Dudley, who I think will be another one of these players in another year or two, and who I think could be picked up real cheap. Martell could end up being the guy, but I wouldn’t be overly optimistic—maybe 1 in 2 chance he develops into what we want.
One thing to keep in mind is that guys who become this role are pretty easy to find in the late teens and early 20s of the draft—Shane is the only lottery pick of the guys I mentioned so far. Granger, Howard, Prince, Dudley were all quality two way players that everyone knew about in college, but without the kind of jawdropping athleticism that gets you into the early lottery. So if we want to be patient, we can probably keep looking for Phoenix to sell their picks and for our own picks to be used for trying to identify swing defensive/hustle/glue guys.
by howlingfantods on
May 8, 2008 9:37 AM PDT
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Oh, I didn't actually answer your questions
1. Which one of these options will be our starting small forward of the future?
Possibly Martell, but I think more likely someone we get in trade or draft.
2. What happens to the remaining options already on our team? Will they be back-ups or play at other positions? Will they be cut or traded?
I’m pretty sure we hold on to Jones, but I would guess that Martell and Outlaw are available for the right trades.
3. What qualities are we looking for in a small forward exactly? Again, people seem to have pretty definite opinions about the kind of point guard we need. Is there a general consensus about small forward as well?
This is the only question I did answer. Two way guys, with an emphasis on defense. I know folks around here want a shooter, personally I think a good slasher or shooter could both work for us.
by howlingfantods on
May 8, 2008 12:49 PM PDT
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Outlaw: 6 years; Jones: 2 years; Webster: 1 year
The way the team has been constructed, this position can afford two role players at this position- I don’t think you need a player who can shoot out the lights and lock down the opponent. The team has the luxury of using one SF as a shooter, and one as a perimeter defender. That said, here’s my rationale for the three players’ tenure with the team.
Outlaw:
Outlaw has proven to be a great clutch player with an enormous upside on defense- you can’t coach size, and frankly, you can’t coach clutch either. The best part about Outlaw is that you don’t have to create plays for him, he’s a great garbage collector. He’ll probably peak in two or three more years, and lose a step and his jump in six from the pounding and twisting he takes from jumping and off balance shots.
Keep Jones:
While Jones clearly wins on basketball smarts, I don’t see Jones having a role on the team in three years, but he can help a young team quite a bit until then. Give him a two year extension and see what happens. At that point, sign or draft a good defender at SF if an upgrade appears.
Webster:
I realize Webster has an enticing shot, but how many spots does this team have for developing players? The TrailBlazers already have at least 8 players they’re trying to develop- the staff doesn’t have time to do a good job with them all, and the

