The Oden Impact
The one guy we haven’t talked about in our Player-by-Player assessment of the team is, of course, Greg Oden. It wasn’t appropriate to include him in the season recap but since we’re now transitioning properly into summer and anticipating the season to come it’s time to chat about his impact. Long story short…it’s going to be significant.
Oden’s calling card to this point in his career has been his defense, but he’ll also make a huge difference in the Blazers’ offense. While Oden’s post game isn’t polished yet (and will likely take a while to become NBA-ready) his sheer athleticism makes him a legitimate threat already. One of the reasons we had some difficulty with decision-making and attacking in the halfcourt offense this year was that opponents basically cheated off of the post. I love Joel Przybilla and what he did for us this year. We would not have been nearly the same team without him. But his presence in the offense allowed the defense considerable leeway to pinch and gamble against our better scorers. Many of our sets were just aching for somebody in the middle to catch and score. Joel wasn’t that man. He has trouble catching passes with the slightest imperfections. If he does catch the ball he has trouble doing anything productive with it in any kind of traffic. He doesn’t score or pass naturally. Even when he finds himself free Joel is unable to finish above the rim unless he’s already cutting towards the basket. Count the number of times Joel got passed to and couldn’t finish, then add all of the times his teammates looked the other direction. That ends up being a lot of possessions. All of that goes away with Oden on the floor. He has good, big hands that are only going to get better with practice. One of his best qualities is his fluidity. Watching him with the ball is like watching a much smaller man. Plus he’s huge and he’s not going to get bumped off of his line easily. He already has the rudiments of passing down and he’s showed some court vision last summer…more than some rookies I’ve seen anyway. I anticipate he’ll be at least a competent passer if not a downright good one. And Greg doesn’t have any trouble finishing above the rim. As a matter of fact he can get his forearms above the cylinder on a flat-footed jump and darn near get his elbows up there with a step and a half. Even if he doesn’t end up scoring big numbers at first he’s going to draw attention which will immediately create more open shots for everyone else. One of the key flaws in the Blazer offense this year was spending a bunch of time to create a mediocre shot. If the defense was dedicated we had trouble getting free. Once Oden gets rolling offensively it’s hard to see how we’re not going to get someone free. And with our new-found perimeter prowess that’s liable to be scary for the opposition.
Now let’s move to Oden’s strength…the defense. We played a style conducive to holding the opponent to a low percentage this year. Basically we forfeited aggressive attacking in favor of staying between the man and the basket. We suffered when good scorers figured out that we weren’t really going to challenge them on their moves, shadowing them instead. We suffered during those times when even playing the percentages couldn’t keep them out of the lane. We suffered continuously on the boards.
Greg Oden isn’t a one-man cure-all for these issues. However teams like
Oden will also eventually affect our running game positively. As we’ve said for the better part of a year now, Lamarcus and Travis are going to be able to fly more when Greg is rebounding. He’s going to make the opponent take longer shots more often, leading to long rebounds and breaks. His passing ability will also help him on the outlet…something we haven’t seen around here since Sabonis.
Is all of this going to happen immediately? Of course not. He’s going to need time to adjust. But you’re going to see some of these things--at least flashes of them--the minute he steps on the court. We ought to get a clear vision of the future in his first season. As for the rest…we’re young and we have plenty of time. I read comments about Greg not transforming the team completely in his first year and dealing with foul trouble and all of that, as if that were a negative. (By the way, he’ll also have to deal with the physical and mental pounding he’s going to take with that big bullseye on his back, plus life on the road. Those are going to be as great of a challenge as the foul issue.) I tend to look at all of that and go, “So?” It’s a little like getting the red Lamborghini of your dreams and someone saying, “Well, you’re going to have to drive it in low gear until you get out of the dealership parking lot.” And this is a problem...how? After you make that right turn onto the street the freeway beckons and it’s pretty long. Crank up the bass, put the key in the ignition, and let’s get driving! Hola chicas! Check us out!
It’s going to be one heck of a trip.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Man...
it’s hard not to get overly excited. I just hope that his health holds up!
by The Graduate on May 7, 2008 5:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Long Summer
In honor of my 700th post, and in the line of duty as a Poet Laureate of Blazers’ Edge, and also because our summer has officially been transitioned into, I present this Long Meter poem:
The setting sun conceals its light,
This season has drawn to a close.
The team is on its homeward flight,
Forty-one wins they ‘pon which doze.
Returning home they soon will part,
For destinations far and wide.
Their training time so soon will start,
To increase their strength and their stride.
For all the fans, this summer lull,
Will be lasting far, far too long.
Too few baskets will catch a ball,
Too long to wait for victor’s song.
First the lottery, then the draft,
And the Summer League is too short.
Fan inspired trades give teams the shaft,
They’ll beg for things of some import.
The heat is hot and mountains bare,
The long summer drags on and on.
But October will soon ensnare,
The hearts and minds of those who’re drawn.
Next year is full of promised hope,
The faithful can not hardly wait.
For Blazer ball to twang the rope,
And start the season with blank slate.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
by T Darkstar on May 7, 2008 6:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great great great one.
Keep the good work.
God gives bread to those that have no teeth.
by amlmart1 on May 7, 2008 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New ceiling for Roy?
Last year Roy had to carry the team on his back, and every other coach knew this.
So does this mean we have yet to see the best of Brandon? Perhaps a whole new level of quality decision making? He is already in the top 10% of NBA talent, so the leap will not be so dramatic as it will be potentially devastating.
Me thinks so!
The Oden Era, Day 322
by Heymoe on May 7, 2008 7:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right on
Greg is not just a #1 pick, he’s a #1 that brings strengths where we are weakest. Add another 3-4 wins.
This will be a 53-55 win team next year, unless Rudy contributes more than I expect in his first year, and then we’ll do even better. And we will be the most feared first round opponent in the playoffs, because by then we should have our Lamborghini well out of the dealer’s parking lot, and no one will know when it will suddenly hit high gear and start blowing people away.
High gear might start by the playoffs next year, or it might start three years later. But the potential for it to happen as early as next year is what will scare playoff opponents.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on May 7, 2008 7:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
I hope you are right. That seems pretty optimistic to me though. Possible, but pretty optimistic.
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on May 7, 2008 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, #1 picks usually don't join a 41-win team.
Which may blow the what-to-gain curve ever so slightly.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on May 7, 2008 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially two in the same year.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
by T Darkstar on May 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to point that out
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on May 7, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I thought of that
But #1 picks usually join a team that got blown out a lot. A lot of our losses were fairly close, which means we had a lot of winnable games that we lost.
A team that got 20 wins might have only had 30 of their losses that were at all within reach, and adding the #1 pick gains them 11 of them. We probably had 30 losses that were somewhat within reach.
The other thing going for us is that we don’t have any players on the downside of our career. Most of our key players should be better next year. We should gain 3-4 wins without adding new players, just from the improvement of our young players.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on May 7, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That many wins
would be almost shocking. But then I’ve been shocked before. I wonder about three things:
1. The ramp-up time for the team to acclimate to Oden and for Greg to shake the rust off.
2. When Greg will hit “the wall” and how much the pounding he’ll receive at the center position will keep him down once he does.
3. If he can remain injury-free.
I’m still thinking the Lamborghini is in low gear next year. But then again low gear in that ride is still pretty good.
—Dave
by Dave on May 7, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is why Joel is so important
That being said …this upcoming season smells a bit like the 89-90 season. As you will recall, The B’s added one significant offseason addition ..Buck Williams. That addition took a sorta soft but talented team and sent them sky rocketing to the finals. I am not saying that the finals will happen…but there always seems to be a year when a developing team’s win totals just explode and I wouldn’t be suprised if that is next year. Granted, Oden is a rookie (whereas Buck was a very good vet) but he also adds toughness to a soft (league perception) but talented young team. Also Oden’s upside is way more than Buck’s. Maybe it is just that they wear the same number …..but I wouldn’t be suprised if Greg has the same impact on this team, that Buck had on the Drexler led teams.
PS Rudy will play the Drazen Petrovic role (only less tragiclly)
"Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss" Robert A. Heinlein
by 92wastheyear on May 7, 2008 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And going perfectly with that
is an article I read late last night….
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1069325/index.htm
A must-read, to go with 92’s comment above.
(Thanks to the “Sports Bigamist http://lambsticks.blogspot.com/2008/04/from-si-vault.html for the link to the article)
by jamon51 on May 7, 2008 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yhanks for the link to another great blog!
Your a good man,...... or woman? Your a good person. yu just dont want to be wrong about these things… Thanks any ways!
In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.
CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY
As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."
by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on May 8, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much of that will already have transpired by training camp.
Oden had been on a real non-stop whirlwind of action and injury
from his senior high school year until he was shelved those 7-8 months ago.
This will be the first real off-season he’s had while old enough to drive.
Following the inactivity of the past year, I think he shakes the rust off during the off-season.
And as for “hitting the wall” and adjusting to NBA officiating and travel,
maybe he got a fair taste of that while traveling with the team this season while rehabbing.
Even if he didn’t get to play or practice, he still had to sleep in all those hotels, make all those plane flights, pack those bags.
He got a sense of the length of the season, and got to watch NBA officiating first-hand for all those games.
I think between what he experienced while traveling with the team and his ability to devote the whole off-season to activity,
he’ll very much minimize the typical fouls-and-wall NBA rookie experience, AND be mostly out of rust mode.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on May 7, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also think Oden's "missed season" is a huge plus
In a sense, he won’t be a rookie at all next season. He’s seen it all and experienced much of it just travelling with the team. That exhausted yet overamped kid we saw in summer league is gone. As GO himself said, he’d thought you have to be perfect at the NBA level. After a year of observation from the sidelines, he knows otherwise. He also has been able to see EXACTLY what the team has lacked and he knows that’s EXACTLY what he brings. This bodes well!
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on May 7, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yesssss
Very good post, highly likely that his time with the team, sitting with coaches absorbing the game with a coaches distilment, getting to watch all the tricks from faking fouls to getting away with them will increase his bb iq. remember at least one of his fouls was a goaltending that came from like 18 ft. he will Not be making those mistakes, his impact will be scary great. How many years was walton in the leagu before the championship?
In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.
CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY
As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."
by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on May 8, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops
I gues I just kinda repeted what hurryup09 said,
In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.
CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY
As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."
by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on May 8, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You better be hoping we get at least 53
or your prediction of us being in the playoffs may not pan out.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on May 7, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the West
is quite so funky next year. But if we just go ahead and get 53 anyway we won’t have to worry about it. So yes, I believe that is the best plan. I will forward it to Nate immediately.
—Dave
by Dave on May 7, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
But remember, I predicted 39 this year, and he nabbed 41 (show off).
That’s why I said 53-55. You tell him 53, and the greedy jerk will go for 55 just to show me up. This time, I’m ready for him.
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on May 8, 2008 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I´m thinking
next year bagpipes will sound like sweet flutes in your ears while celebrating victories and more victories in our unstoppable run for the title. Rudy will be better, playing with Oden, LMA Roy, etc, than many of us here imagine in our best dreams. Now he makes his teammates work seem a lot better. In NBA he will face NBA players, but he will have also NBA teammates, and the best teammates you can have in the NBA.
Anyway, I cann´t imagine Rudy regreasing much in his stats.
Rudy´s improvement rate from a regular season to the next regular season in ACB:
07-08……..33,30%
06-07……. 5,49%.
05-06……. 26,10%
04-05……. 8,93%.
God gives bread to those that have no teeth.
by amlmart1 on May 7, 2008 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a fan
of keeping expectations reasonable. Getting carried away is super-easy as is easy to see from all the enthusiasm here. That said, I think if we acquire a point this offseason (especially Calderon) and barring injury to the big 3, we go to at least the second round of the playoffs.
There’s a synergy with this team. I mean this last year it was a team of young, non-rebounding, jump-shooters. Those teams rarely do well but somehow we did in a nasty conference. There was an earlier post on which big three would you most like to have and honestly I think on paper I’d take the Lakers 3 over ours. Maybe even the Hornets. But I think everything fits here – really well. Actually dammit – both those teams fit well too, I just think ours fits better.
I wasn’t sold on Rudy from a team perspective, but the more I see of him the more it seems he really gets how to play a team game. Plus that wild-card hyper-aggressiveness is really good in terms of keeping other teams off balance. So I’m pretty sold, I like him.
Oden I think will be better than we think his first year. Huge bigs just kind of make the game easy in a lot of ways. Shaq made the careers (and contracts) of some marginal players (what was his name – Travis Knight or something?).
Anyway, my point is, my expectations are high – but I think reasonable.
by begottenson on May 7, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
To what extent should we run post ups for Oden? We know he’s still raw offensively and isn’t likely to be overly effective with the jump hook or other post moves. Do we still pound the ball inside to him so that he gets better and hopefully develops into a dominant scorer? It seems to me that doing so (and thus taking touches away from the more polished Roy and Aldridge) will cost us games early… and dropping even a few games early could easily mean missing the playoffs out west.
So…. I ask you- is it worth going out of our way to develop Greg’s post game, possibly at the cost of missing the playoffs?
Boomshakalaka
by jksnake99 on May 7, 2008 8:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
I don´t think he will be the first shoot option, probably the third, but he will be someone who can receive the ball inside and play it with post moves or return the ball outside for an open shot or assists to someone who cuts…. He will be a good player in his first year for inside-outside plays.
I like to give this kind of serious opinions, even when I don´t actually know what I´m talking about. ;-).
God gives bread to those that have no teeth.
by amlmart1 on May 7, 2008 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so?
his leggs have a max length length of time. Theres a learning curve that will take time for his offencive game. If he is in the league for 10 years, just for the sake of argument. he might take 1 to 3 or 4 years to max out his offensive potential, depending on how he is devoleped, if i am wrong I am sure someone will tell me. I would rather miss the playoffs and increace the length of time that oden plays with a higher skill set, get him as good as possible as fast as possible. I would rather have him in mvp form for 8 or 9 of those years winning 4 to 5 championships, then having him ceiling after 3 or 4 years and going to the playoffs 6 of 8 time and winning only 2 or 3 rings. Oh, it sure is great to have the discussion about how we want to win all our rings. What a hard problem to live with.
In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.
CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY
As the great Vonnegut said, more or less... "You are what you pretend to be, so you must be very careful what you pretend to be."
by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on May 8, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You made me giggle.
That whole long paragraph going into how he’ll transform the offense had me drooling,
and then you followed it up with the phrase, “Now let’s move to Oden’s strength.”
Some kinda punchline, that.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on May 7, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could Joel develop an offensive game?
I’m just wondering, given his excellent work ethic and his improvement in free throw shooting between last season and this season, if Joel could spend his summer (when not kick-boxing) focusing on his offensive game. Maybe spend a lot of time working with Maurice Lucas on how to finish at the hoop? What’s the consensus? Is this something you can develop or is it ‘you have it or you don’t’ skill at this point in a career?
Is there a cure for hands of stone? Camay?
by DonkeyShins on May 7, 2008 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering the second unit is even MORE offensively explosive and deficient on defense and size than the starters . . .
. . . I’d say Joel’s existing skill set will benefit that gang (Sergio, JJ, Trout, Frye, Rudy (until and unless he joins the starters))
even more than it already has been an asset with the starting unit.
Joel’s “new teammates” have those missing skills enough that he doesn’t need to get them.
I think they’d be more than happy just to have screens and rebounding and post play on the court with them,
because that lot ain’t providing any of that for themselves anytime soon.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on May 7, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joel's offense
will be spearheaded by his pick-setting, which he does fantastically, and which the second unit sorely needs.
—Dave
by Dave on May 7, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could Joel develop an offensive game?
No.
There is no cure for hands of stone.
by begottenson on May 7, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree
you could always find a stone to flesh potion.
Here's to being hated. Come on #1 pick!
by ratbastird on May 7, 2008 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen what that stuff does to boulders?!
Giant piles of steak.
A long as it does that, no one is going to use any on Joel’s hands. :(
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
by T Darkstar on May 7, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Experience is
I had hands of stone in high school but they’re better than average now, and that’s just through years of open-gym.
But Joel has experience, so it’s tough to see him improving much.
by jamon51 on May 7, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on your hit points.
I’ll consult my Dungeon Master Handbook.
by begottenson on May 7, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Think
Oden’s greatest value will be in a trade since he is so injury prone. We should trade him for Zydrunas Ilgauskas as soon as the playoffs are over. That way the coaches can continue to work on developing LMA and Roy. Also it will give the coaches more time to develop Rudy.
"Show some respect to this living legend, this hall of famer...Arvydas Sabonis." - Bill Walton
by tominhawaii on May 7, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't be serious
Ilgauskas has injury issues too. I’m thinking Dalembert from the 76er’s. He gained valuable playoff experience this year.
by LaughingJon on May 7, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
Change my pick to Ben Wallace.
"Show some respect to this living legend, this hall of famer...Arvydas Sabonis." - Bill Walton
by tominhawaii on May 7, 2008 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or the other Wallace
We could send him to Detroit and have them send something along to the Hornets so we could bring back ‘Sheed and Bonzi.
by jc burg on May 7, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried that once in a diary
I do not think it was much of a hit.
"Show some respect to this living legend, this hall of famer...Arvydas Sabonis." - Bill Walton
by tominhawaii on May 7, 2008 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the result was slightly different.
It wasn’t that it wasn’t a hit, it’s that it caused you to get hit. There are some mean people out there, especially when suggesting we send something to Detroit and New Orleans. “Like they need anymore!” they say. “Pshaw!” they say. Cruel, cruel world. (sigh)
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
by T Darkstar on May 7, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so amped up
from what I’ve read in this post. I’m going to go out on a limb and predict the Blazers will win between 90 – 93 regular season games next year. No predictions on the playoffs though until I know the matchups.
by LaughingJon on May 7, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They'll be better than that!
I predict they go an even 100 and -18.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
by T Darkstar on May 7, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you counting
Summer League and preseason?
Other people don't have as much practice at being wrong as I do -- HT, timbo
by jscot on May 8, 2008 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, just the regular season.
Since there are eighty-two games, the only way to rack up one hundred wins is to also have negative eighteen losses. The math works out perfectly on this one, as 100-18=82, zero-sum accounted for. You should see me “balance” the books.
One of Two Official Blazer's Edge Poets Laureate for the 2008-2009 Season
"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus
by T Darkstar on May 8, 2008 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometime shortly before next season begins . . .
. . . like, say, mid-October, I’d like to see a Bedge contest to predict the Blazers’ final record,
not counting the preseason, but including the playoffs.
I hope I remember this bright idea five months from now.
Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.
by QualityPie on May 8, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Rat
Didn’t the Rat do that last year? I don’t think he did a follow up post after the end of the season.
"Show some respect to this living legend, this hall of famer...Arvydas Sabonis." - Bill Walton
by tominhawaii on May 8, 2008 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's going to be fun to watch
when i think of oden playing the video that plays in my head is him scoring in the low post vs florida in the ncaa championship game. guarded by yannick noah and/or al horford (both of whom have shown they can play in the nba). i remember greg’s grace and reflexes combined with great strength. and he can shoot hooks with either hand.
like dwight howard if dwight howard could do more than just dunk. whew.
ignacio
by ignacio on May 7, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great potential
I, too, am enthused about all the positives Oden could bring to the Blazers.
At the moment, it is all potential, and it is still only a possibility that Rudy will join the Blazers.
Then there is the issue of who will play and what style will be played.
I thought we were going to run this year—wrong. Will we run next year? I think we have the horses, but will we be committed to running? Nate is adverse to turnovers and none of our point guards (including Roy) run the fast break well.
I’m not convinced that Oden is going to get that many more rebounds and that he’s going to be able to throw that many more outlet passes than Joel did/could have unless there is a fundamental change in team philosophy.
Maybe Oden will be the catalyst for that change, but next year’s Blazer team will need to make a number of changes in addition to personnel for the potential of Oden to be realized.
Will Nate be the right guy to put things together, or will it take another change at the helm to get the full potential out of this team? (Assuming “this team” equals the “big three” (Oden, LMA, and Roy), Rudy, Travis, and Martell, a new point guard, and whatever “support” players we end up with [and I hope Jack is no longer around, because if he is, Nate will play him 25+ minutes a game].)
Finally, I not convinced that Nate will play Joel as the backup to Oden. I think he should, but his penchant for “small ball” (slow-down small ball at that) has me concerned that we won’t use our potential advantage with the “bigs” nor engage in an opprtunistic running game.
by vcubed on May 7, 2008 6:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A couple of issues:
Oden will be a far better passer in EVERY way than Joel is. It won’t even be close.
The assessment of Nate as a “small-ball” person suffers from insufficient data. He played some smaller players this year because other than Joel we only HAD smaller players this year. Who else was going in at center? Raef? It was Frye or nothing pretty much. That doesn’t mean he favors smaller players at the position. We haven’t seen Nate with a full corps of centers yet.
—Dave
by Dave on May 7, 2008 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Travis could play center.
Or was that Roy? I forget these things sometimes.
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by T Darkstar on May 7, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic played center sometimes
We all know Roy is going to be better than Magic.
With Oden’s passing ability, and superior speed up and down the court, he’ll play the point, and Brandon will play center. LMA will develop his 3 pointer, and play SG. Rudy won’t even have to get in the game—he’s so effective from long distance that he’ll be able to hit threes while sitting on the bench. All of this will create a few matchup problems for opposing teams.
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by jscot on May 8, 2008 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oden Impact Report
1º.- Since OIden is blocking shots, NBA courts will need impact absorbent rubber surface.
2º.- Since Oden is dunking, NBA rings will need stainless steel external case with good stress resistance.
3º.- Since Oden is boxing out, NBA rosters will have 20 bench players and two orthopedics.
4º.- Since Oden is scoring, NBA will use four digit scoreboards.
5º.- Since Oden is runing, NBA courts need to be enlarged by 100 miles.
6º.- ...
Since I know that you like the rice with milk, below the door I put a brick.
by amlmart1 on May 8, 2008 5:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm.......
6 – Since Oden is jumping, NBA arenas will have to raise the roofs.
7 – Since Oden is setting picks, NBA players will all wear face masks.
by BlazerD on May 8, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm......
8 – Since Oden is winning, the league will have to realign conferences: the Blazers in one, everybody else in the other. That way other teams only have to play us twice a year each.
by Dave on May 9, 2008 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double Hmmmm.......
9 – Since Oden is dominating opposing teams will have to trade in coaches for chaplains.
by Dave on May 9, 2008 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like 7
In the NBA, on the other hand, the vast majority of NBA championships are won by teams led by a player who would be considered the best player in the league at the time, or among the top three players in the league at the time.
CP3+ODEN=DYNASTY
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by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT
by ptwnblzr on May 8, 2008 1:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about the Finisher?
Is there a possability of bringing Kaponen over this next year to help fix our point guard problems? He’s an exiting point who doesn’t make mistakes to often and from the video i’ve seen he loves to “lob it to the big fella.”
by DephlatorMouse on May 10, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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