Trade for Rose

by Ace71 on May 21, 2008 1:18 PM PDT

Give up Aldridge & number 13 to Chicago for the ability to draft Rose. Aldridge is a nice kid and a fantastic player, but in order to make the next jump, the Blazers are going to need a point on the level on Paul & Williams. The Blazers will have lots of cape room after 08'-09' season to try to sign a quality PF, which in my opinion will be easier thing to do rather than find a All-Star caliber point guard that can change a franchise. Besides, Aldridge seems to me to be a little soft. I would like a Boozer/Horford type power forward long term.

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Where would the Spurs be the last few years without Tim Duncan?

Where would we be without one of the best PF in the league and a rookie for a PG? hmmm….

Thanks PA, KP, Nate, BRoy, LMA, GO, 'Tell, Trout, JJ's, Buffet, Blake (not Blakey), Thrilla Hundred-dolla Billa, McBob (just 'cuz you're cool), Sergio (just 'cuz you've got flash), and Raef (ummm...just 'cuz)....and Dean Demo, Maurice, Monty (You rock Monty!), Bill Bayno (good luck with your new job), Bobby, Jay, and everyone else I'm forgetting (scouts, other front office people) who made the Return of Rip City possible, including the media (Mike B., Casey, Dave, Ben). And tominhawaii. Can't forget him.

by prezofdeath on May 21, 2008 1:23 PM PDT 0 recs

Where would the Pistons be without Rasheed Wallace?

Where would we be without one of the best PF in the league and a rookie for a PG? hmmm….

by prezofdeath on May 21, 2008 1:24 PM PDT 0 recs

I'll be the Bulls...

“Wow, KP. I realize how hard it is for you to make that offer. LaMarcus Aldridge is quite a piece. But no… an easy no… unless you are including Oden, I am going to have to turn you down without a second thought.”

“I do have Hinrich available though.”

by The Graduate on May 21, 2008 1:34 PM PDT 0 recs

ok

how about Oden straight up for Rose?

Winning is everything.

by MT Suit on May 21, 2008 2:14 PM PDT up 0 recs

wow

that would be a fascinating trade. If Oden is truly 100% healthy, the Blazers wouldn’t do it.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up 0 recs

okay

I think people are misunderstanding the levels of this draft. Not a single GM in the league would ever give up GO or Durant for Rose or Beasely. Last years draft was a once in a decade draft, rose is good, and could make an immeadiate impact along with Beasely, but they are not even close to as good as KD and GO are.

(Woody)

by TheOdenator on May 21, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up 0 recs

I think Beasely might be better than Durant

He did put up better numbers in college. However, a healthy GO should be more valuable than either of them (and more valuable than Rose) because good centers are more valuable than good perimeter players.

by trk on May 21, 2008 2:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

agree

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not Oden

But if they had to choose between Durant, Beasely, or Rose I would probobly consider them about equal and draft based on need.

by TubbaDubba on May 21, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up 0 recs

Durant is a franchise player, we shouldnt forget that.

Nobody is talking about Beasley as a instantaneous difference maker for any franchise that gets him, thats exactly what Durant was considered coming out. Based on talent, I take Durant over Rose and Beasley and dont bat an eyelash…

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on May 21, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up 0 recs

nobody?

KP says he feels there are two franchise changers in this draft. Don’t forget that Beasley put up better numbers across the board than Durant, playing in the same conference for a team that got just as far in the NCAA tournament.

I think its very close between Beas, KD and Rose.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

He means Rose...

and maybe someone else. I am confident that OJ Mayo is going to be an NBA All-Star, has star power and will be the “Franchise” face of whatever team he is on. I am not certain I would say that for Beasley. Kind of like LMA in a way. LMA may have more upside than BROY, but BROY is our franchise face, LMA is a key piece and a needed key piece on a competitive team. Beasley will make a team much better, but Mayo and Rose will help sell more tickets.

by Portland Dynasty on May 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

LINK!!

did KP really say “Franchise”?

What did Oden say to the stork?. "Admit that you have got lost". amlmart

by ptwnblzr on May 24, 2008 4:11 AM PDT up 0 recs

It was a center court podcast

Four

by tominhawaii on May 24, 2008 11:40 AM PDT up 0 recs

Not a chance.

Oden is twice the prospect Rose is.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 21, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

Please

by Ace71 on May 21, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up 0 recs

I might do it.

The Bulls would not.

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on May 21, 2008 1:42 PM PDT 0 recs

BULL...

by Portland Dynasty on May 22, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

That is never ever going to happen

KP has stated several times that Broy LA and Oden are here to stay for “a long time”. We have three all star calibur players playing in their true positions making up most of our starting lineup… we are in a better spot than ne 1. We need a good pg but seriously LA isnt worth it. Oden isnt the scoring threat we need so LA has to stay.

Sophia

Sine Labore Nihil- Nothing without work

by BlazerFan1 on May 21, 2008 2:00 PM PDT 0 recs

Bulls wouldn't do it

Not even Roy would be enough.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 2:16 PM PDT 0 recs

They're dumb then.

To not take a young, proven All-Star for a promising PROSPECT. Now way I would trade Roy for Rose.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 21, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Rose's ceiling...

... is so much higher than Roy’s it isn’t even funny. When it comes to the #1 pick, potential trumps reality. There’s a reason we didn’t deal the top pick last year for the likes of Carmelo and Paul Pierce. Now, Oden was a better prospect than Rose is, but the point still stands.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

So you'd trade Roy for Rose?

Just come out and say it then.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 21, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up 0 recs

Wow that's a tough one.

Roy means much more to this team that he does on the open market. A #1 pick in a very good draft is mighty tempting though. I don’t think I’d do it. I will say that if KP is on the phone with Chicago, its vastly more likely to be about Hinrich than about Rose or any of the Blazer big 3.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yeah; Roy falls into that category:

“Way More Valuable To His Current Team Than He Would Be To Any Other Team”.

Roy means too little to the Bulls for them to give up the Rosely pick for him,
and too much to the Blazers for us to give him up for that pick.
Bad deal for BOTH teams.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on May 21, 2008 6:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

Dude, I thought I was the piss in the cereal

anti-homerism guy. That’s nuts, man, there’s no one in this draft I’d trade for Roy. Roy’s stats aren’t great, but he makes his team better. Look at how the Lebron’s teammates have played with and without Lebron, and reflect on how incredibly lucky we are to have a crunchtime guy who’s willing to sacrifice his stats and prioritize team success. I wouldn’t trade Roy for anyone in the league other than Dwight Howard, CP3, or LeBron.

by howlingfantods on May 22, 2008 10:52 AM PDT up 0 recs

Tough one

Roy’s value to the Blazers exceeds his value on the open market. Its a very tough decision. Ultimately, I don’t think I or KP would do it. I don’t think Chicago would even consider it though.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up 0 recs

Ok so I love Roy

but so does the open market. His value is plenty high, I’d imagine consensus opinion is at least top 40 not considering age and contracts, but considering age and contracts would have to be top 20 if not higher.

by howlingfantods on May 22, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up 0 recs

I don't think anybody here would really trade Roy for Rose

The point is the first pick has stoked interest in an otherwise moribund and depressed fan base in Chicago. Like with Oden last year, you can’t help but think people in Portland would have been a little disappointed to welcome Dirk Nowitzki and watch GO fly to Texas. Whether or not Rose is as good as Roy or not is irrelevant. With a prospective player the allure is in not knowing what you’re getting.

BLZRS FRVR

by nightbluefruit on May 21, 2008 5:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Roy

would be enough.

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on May 21, 2008 7:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

The Bulls would much rather have a dominate 7-footer FO-SHO

I can’t believe that anyone would be claiming that Chicago would rather have Rose over Oden. Rose is a great prospect, but so is Oden. Chicago would trade #1 overall for Dwight Howard too. Thier roster would so set if they were able to get a dominate big man, not just a power forward like Beasley. Rose is gonna be a great addition, but seriously, they want a center and would do anything to get one of the “Next Big Things” at center.

by Portland Dynasty on May 22, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

I think i have figured out a way to do this!

I would never trade that pick if i were them, but then again, chicago already has hinrich, both miami and chicago would get a lot better if chicago drafted beasley, but whatever… I think we could move up in the draft, the heat desperately need a PG, and maybe we could sign jose for $7 million, then force miami to give us their pick and blount for jose and our 1st rd next year, and 3 yrs in the future and all of our second rounders this year, and then give chicago a framed photo of LMA dunking over Tyrus , to switch picks with us, and just to be nice we should give them our 1st round in 2 years. Oh and then we hire some guys (or ask for BE volunteers) to beat blount and break his knees so that way the next year he medically retires (out of fear) and his salary comes off of our cap.

(Woody)

by TheOdenator on May 21, 2008 2:26 PM PDT 0 recs

Operation Break Blount

IS ON!

Juan Dixon Owes Me $5 Dollars.

by Outlaw is Rejector on May 21, 2008 5:21 PM PDT up 0 recs

Portland isn't ready

To have a player with the last name of Blount.

Mortymurr

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 5:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

I'm too attached

I couldn’t let LMA go for nuthin’, no how. With that big three, we don’t NEED an allstar PG since Roy is an amazing playmaker.

Of course, it’d be nice to have a better PG, but we don’t need a Chris Paul/Deron/Rose (if that good) type dude.

Plus, I GOTTA see LMA and Oden together. I can’t imagine a better PF to put next to Oden, and their skills should compliment each other like GANGBUSTERS. I gotta have it, I got got to have it!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 2:27 PM PDT 0 recs

Same here.

I don’t want any major moves like this.

by ranma on May 21, 2008 2:42 PM PDT up 0 recs

this would be highway robbery for the Blazers

if we could actually pull it off. I love LMA also but I want to see the Blazers win a title, and Rose/Roy/Oden would be a better big 3.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up 0 recs

Agreed

I love me some LMA, but I’ve been saying it for a while…...at some point, if we really want to make a major move, he’s the expendable one of the 3 with Oden coming on board. That doesn’t mean I think we have to make a major move though…...

And yes, this draft pales in comparison to last year. I’d almost take Horford over Beasley, but Rose over Horford.

Oden > Durant > Rose > Horford > Beasley

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on May 21, 2008 2:56 PM PDT up 0 recs

I think everyone

is just freaked out about letting another franchise point guard slip through everyone’s fingers. That might be why everyone is freaking out about Rose, but college shows so little of a PG’s abilities that drafting one is much trickier than any other position. A lot of the great point guards in the league today weren’t drafted with the first or second draft pick, and the even better PG of the past have been drafted later in the rounds. The only PG that i can think of that went that early was Isaiah Thomas (afterlooking allen iverson was the #1 pick in 96, and baron davis was a #3 pick in 99 so i guess it isn’t unheard of) . Jack was considered along with CP, Deron, and Raymond Felton as a group of 4 that was take your pick, picking a PG is remarkably hard to do, and I am not sure what it is about Rose that is so amazingly cut above the rest, when amazing PG have in the past been so often overlooked.

(Woody)

by TheOdenator on May 21, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up 0 recs

go point

by Ace71 on May 21, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

good point...sorry

by Ace71 on May 21, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

Gary Payton

Taken at number 2. CP, DW and Spencer taken at 3, 4, 5. Devin Harris taken at 5 a couple years prior. Chauncey Billups at 2.

Lots of great PGs drafted high. Bad ones too though.

by BlazerD on May 22, 2008 3:29 AM PDT up 0 recs

No

Oden>Rose>Durant=Beasley>Horford

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on May 21, 2008 4:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

I wouldn't do it

Aldridge is too much to give up for an unproven player like Rose.

I disagree that we need a Chris Paul or Deron Williams type point guard to get to the next level. Look at the teams that are still in the playoffs: all four managed to advance by having all-star power forwards and mediocre point guards (Detroit has Chauncey Billups, but they managed to advance even though he was out with an injury). Meanwhile, Paul and Williams are already on summer vacation.

by trk on May 21, 2008 2:54 PM PDT 0 recs

I would not call Tony Parker medicore, but point taken

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on May 21, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Parker is good

but he’s not superstar level player, and he’s nowhere near as good or as important to his team as Tim Duncan is.

by trk on May 21, 2008 5:28 PM PDT up 0 recs

agreed

I used to think Parker was just an above avg pg…but this year he has totally stepped up his game compared to years past. Before I would have put him on the same level as Derrick Fisher…a good PG that is dependable but won’t necessarily carry the team on his back.

by Philthyanimal on May 21, 2008 11:55 PM PDT up 0 recs

There is no guarantee

the Rose is the next Paul/Williams. I don’t want to break up the twin towers before they play a game together. Madness.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 21, 2008 3:08 PM PDT 0 recs

Madness!

I would point out that both Paul and Williams’ seasons are over. There’s a very good chance the NBA finals will have Rajon Rondo and Derek Fisher as the starting point guards. Remind me why the Blazers NEED a point guard on the level of Paul & Williams?

by LaughingJon on May 21, 2008 3:33 PM PDT 0 recs

Madness of the Summer!

It’s the offseason hysteria, where we all focus on one main issue and discuss it to death and blow up its actual importance to herculean levels. WE NEED A SMALL FORWARD we said last year. WE NEED A POINT GUARD this year. Next year maybe it’ll be CAN NATE TAKE US PAST THE WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS? WE LOST IN 7 TO THE SPURS AND THAT ISN’T ACCEPTABLE.

We just gotta go with the flow, my friend, cause we wouldn’t be able to stop it. I know I’ve done my fair share of debate. I wouldn’t argue with getting a better PG, but with a playmaker like Roy I do not think we need it—and with the team defenders we should be havin’, I’m also not convinced we won’t be fine against the Deron’s and Paul’s of the world. We beat them pretty good already, without Oden, after all. We’ll only get better.

SUMMER HYSTERIA IS SWEEPING THE EDGE OF BLAZERS’ SANITY!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 3:41 PM PDT up 0 recs

The hysteria scares me

I almost wanna just avoid this site for a few months just cause all these rediculous trade’s scare me in my heart.

Juan Dixon Owes Me $5 Dollars.

by Outlaw is Rejector on May 21, 2008 5:26 PM PDT up 0 recs

I'm working on some stuffs

That keep me on my ‘puter all day. I can’t help but check the Blazers Edge. And then, I can’t help but comment on something. I wouldn’t know how to avoid it, as long as I’m on my ‘puter.

I know the hysteria isn’t gonna end anytime soon, so I won’t get my Hanes Her Way in a knot. The only trade ideas that matter are floated by KP, and he is King Midas reincarnated—except RADDER and cooler and way sweet to the max.

What else can one do to fill the long summer months… especially when every single Blazer fan counts down the seconds until we see LMA/Oden/Roy on the floor together. And then you got that Rudy fellow, and whatever we do with the lottery pick.

HOW CAN A PERSON STAY SANE THE WAIT IS TOO LONG!!!

SERGIO, FRYE, AND THE RIGHTS TO RUDY FERNANDEZ FOR MARCUS BANKS!!! We need a PG, anybody!!

Mortimer es LOCOSITA

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 5:40 PM PDT up 0 recs

Amen

I agree with all you wrote. I was just trying to throw a little voice of reason and do a little trim-tabbing.

by LaughingJon on May 21, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up 0 recs

forget about Rose

they wouldn’t do it and neither would we.

by Falcao on May 21, 2008 3:55 PM PDT 0 recs

I think we already established this wouldnt work but.......

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/4/19/415948/a-trade-for-rose

New jersey does seem to want to move.

by raging WebTed on May 21, 2008 4:53 PM PDT 0 recs

Rose MAY be a great player--probably, even

But I have absolutely no doubt about LMA. At the rate he’s progressed so far, he should be a top power forward in this league for a couple of decades. Paired with GO, the synergy will be off the charts. We’re talking about a twin towers to make people forget prior twin towers. The two have already talked about becoming the new Duncan/Robinson—except with the two hooking up for their entire careers.

Yes, this is a guard’s league these days, and Rose will likely be a great one. But with Roy, LMA, and GO, you have a known quantity—a rock-solid foundation. Just add a GOOD starting point guard (Westbrook?), and you’re set for the championship run. Add a couple hardnosed role players, mix in some experience, and serve up the championships.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on May 21, 2008 6:21 PM PDT 0 recs

I'll take 10 please!

Ten championships to go please.

They’ll stop building the new World Trade Center in New York because LMA and Oden will be all the twin towers America will need.

Instead, giant monuments shall be built in their honor, formed out of the discarded flesh and gristle and bones of their rivals. Good point guards will quiver at the mere thought of trying to drive on the Towers; whoever makes Depends will make a new version for NBA PGs and it will be their best selling adult incontinence product ever.

Oden + LMA = >>>>>> anyone.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 6:34 PM PDT up 0 recs

Oden + LmA = >Roy>>>>>>>>> anyone.

Fixed

"KP has a raging Jayhawk for anyone from Kansas." Mortimer

by Sabonis4Ever on May 21, 2008 6:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

Oden + LMA + BRoy + Rudy > ∞

by spikex on May 21, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up 0 recs

Come on now friends...

Rudy > MJ
Oden > Russel
LMA > Wilt
Roy > Oscar

Add it all together and we are good for at least 25 consecutive championships. Nobody can denie the sheer logic of these stats, so dont even try…

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on May 21, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

THAT'S what I meant to say!

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on May 21, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

How about the fourth pick

During a short interview from New Jersey, Presti declined to specifically discuss prospects or what areas he hopes to address on a squad that finished 20-62 last season.

He said the Sonics are open to shopping the fourth pick. Seattle also has the No. 24 pick, four picks in the second round and a combined four first-round selections in the next two drafts.

by billyjoejack on May 21, 2008 7:40 PM PDT 0 recs

Hmmm: could be our ticket to Westbrook

Of course they’ll want something in return. But we won’t have to give up one of the Big 3.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on May 21, 2008 8:00 PM PDT up 0 recs

just no

‘nuff said

I used to play sports, then I realized you can buy trophies, now I'm good at everything, even checkers - Demetri Martin

by Zaron5551 on May 21, 2008 8:43 PM PDT 0 recs

how about the 2nd pick

Riley Wants A “Major” Free Agent

By: Wendell Maxey Last Updated: 5/22/08 9:41 AM ET | 3257 times read

Adjust font size:Pat Riley is known to some as “Coach Slick” and others as Mr. “GQ.” But come the NBA Draft on June 26th at Madison Square Garden, Riley may earn another moniker: Trader Pat.

Riley – team president for the Miami HEAT – let it be known Tuesday night after the HEAT secured the second overall pick he would explore trading it. For some, the declaration came as a shock. Even Michael Beasley probably felt a bit slighted, particularly with Derrick Rose likely to be selected first overall by the Chicago Bulls.

But you have to hand it to Riley. He’s not making a pick or packaging the meal ticket for next season. Nope. Instead Riley and the HEAT have their gaze set on 2010.

by billyjoejack on May 22, 2008 9:29 PM PDT 0 recs