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Poll: Next year's starting point guard

 

This isn't a quextion of who <b>should</b> be our starting PG next year.  Instead, I'm looking for predictions as to who it <b>will</b> be.  The choices:

  • Steve Blake:  The incumbent in the job.  Strengths: Good passer, makes few mistakes, runs the offense well, plays adequate defense against larger guards, good perimeter shooter.  Weaknesses: Defense against quick guards, not good at getting own shot, poor penetrator, not a Gifted Playmaker™.  My thoughts:  An excellent backup point guard; but a stretch in the starting role.
  • Jarrett Jack:  Last year's starter, though came off the bench this year.  Strengths:  Good penetrator, excellent foul shooter, decent outside shot.  Adequante defense against big guards.   Good relationship with Nate McMillan.  Saw lots of 4th quarter minutes.  Weaknesses:  Poor playmaker, especially on the fastbreak.  Did well running the "dump it in to Zach" offense, but has a hard time getting others involved.  Poor on the pick-and-roll.  Turnover-prone.  Poor defense against quick guards.  My thoughts:  Good third guard off the bench; but has a long way to go before a starting quality PG.
  • Sergio Rodriguez:  Last year's boy wonder, this year's whipping boy.  Strengths:  Brilliant passer, excellent ballhandler.  Excels at the pick and roll.  Weaknesses:  Occasionally sloppy.  Lousy defender, though improving.  Cannot create own shot, and doesn't shoot well when open.  Dominates the ball.  My thoughts:  Still an interesting project, but a LONG way to go for young Sergio.
  • Brandon Roy:  Needs no introduction.  Strengths:  All-Star; excellent ballhandler, very good passer.  Can get his shot any time he wants it; but is not selfish.  Good (though not lockdown) defender, good rebounder for a guard.  Brilliant in the clutch.  Weaknesses:  Can he run a fastbreak?  Can he defend guys like Chris Paul?  Would a move to the PG position full-time hurt him, especially if paired with a trigger-happy SG like a Rudy Fernandez?  My thoughts:  Definitely in the starting backcourt, exact role TBD.  May well be a hybrid guard.
  • Rudy Fernandez.  The best guard in Europe right now.  Strenghts:  Excellent scorer, especially off the ball.  Weaknesses:  Can he play point--I suspect not; he's included here mainly because I've seen his name mentioned in similar discussions.  Verdict:  Could be the starting 2G eventually, if Roy becomes the starting point.  Otherwise, a Manu-esque sixth man.  But a PG?  No.
  • Petteri Koponen.  MVP of the Finnish League; the best player by far in Finland.  Strenghts.  Good court vision, good size.  Weaknesses:  Hard to say--level of competition he has faced is nowhere close to NBA caliber.  Verdict:  Will not be in Portland next year.  Wisest course of action would be for him to move to a better European league like the ACB and prove his mettle there before talking NBA.
  • Jose Calderon.  Starting PG for the Toronto Raptors and the Spanish national team.  Will be busy in Beijing this summer.  RFA with the Raps, involved in a quarterback controversy with TJ Ford and may want out.  Portland often mentioned as a possible suitor.  Strengths:  One of the better starting points in the EC, was given All-Star discussion.   Steady player; a more talented Steve Blake.  Weaknesses:  The fact that he's involved in a quarterback controversy makes me suspicious--if he can't win the job over an often-injured T.J.Ford, why not?  Not a lockdown defender--something the Blazers need.  Verdict:  Possible, but I'd rather have the next guy.
  • Devin Harris.  Starting PG for the Nets, and for the Mavs prior to the Kidd trade.  Strengths:  Excellent defensive PG, also good penetrator and off-the-ball player.  Would be a perfect match with Brandon Roy in the backcourt.  Weaknesses:  Outside shot is suspect.  Coming off an injury.  Verdict:  Out of the non-All-Star-caliber PGs in the league, would match the Blazers the best.  But may be hard to acquire--has a difficult contract, and the Nets reportedly like him.  May not be available.
  • Draft Choice.  Obviously we don't know who this player is.  Rose and Bayless won't be around at #13, but guys like Westbrook or Augustin or Chalmers might.   Strengths: ? Weaknesses: ?, though you're not going to get a NBA-ready point guard at #13 and start him on opening night.  Verdict:  Portland doesn't get immediate PG help with the pick.  They might draft a point, but he won't be the starter.  Or, they might trade the pick or draft another need here.
  • Other NBA Veteran.  Besides Calderon and Harris, other veteran points might be available, through free agency or trade.  Some names to consider include Kirk Hinrich and Chris Duhon of Chicago--especially if the Bulls decide to draft Derrick Rose; Sam Cassell (UFA), Earl Boykins (UFA), Dan Dickau (UFA), Smush Parker (UFA), Jason Williams (UFA), Carlos Arroyo (UFA), Kevin Ollie (UFA), Beno Udrih (UFA), Damon Stoudamire (!).  Some big names who might be available if they opt out include Iverson, Gilbert Arenas, and Baron Davis.

The other three options assume that no single person unambiguously wins the job of Starting Point Guard of the Portland Trail Blazers.

  • Quarterback Controversy.  A bit of what we saw early this season, and a lot of what we saw in '05-'06.   In this scenario, no player demonstrates that he deserves the job, and players are yanked in and out of the starting line-up depending on how they do in practice.  If no trades occur to get us a veteran PG, and none of the young-uns step up, this could happen.  Nate has shown that he will run the club this way if he feels it is appropriate, even though the fans hate it.  Strengths:  None, really, other than as an incentive to develop.  Weaknesses.  The fact that this needs to be done means you don't HAVE a starting quality PG; a major liability.  Can be disruptive to team chemistry.  Verdict.  Unless something happens to Steve Blake, this won't happen--Blake's steady enough that Nate can depend on him if the other guys don't step up.
  • Depends on the opponent.  Reconfiguring the starting lineup to match up with the opposition isn't common in the NBA (it's often viewed as a sign of weakness), but it could happen.  This is less disruptive than the quarterback controversy--players know what their role is--but still.  Imagine a situation where a (for example) Chris Duhon or a Russell Westbrook gets the start against guys like Chris Paul, and a Jarrett Jack gets the start against PGs who aren't a threat to score.  Nate has done this somewhat the past year with the Channing Frye/Joel Przybilla shuffle at center.  Strengths:  Tactically makes a bit more sense.  Weakness:  Generally not done in the NBA; sign of low confidence in players.  Verdict.  Unlikely--the PGs we have all have similar weaknesses, especially at perimeter defense.
  • Unorthodox offense.  Here, Nate throws the standard NBA playbook out the window, and goes with a hybrid guard scheme, with Brandon Roy running the offense in the haflcourt, and a small "tweener" guard who isn't a great playmaker (but who can play well off the ball and defend opposing PGs adequately) playing alongside, possibly running the break as well.  Neither player is the point guard in this scheme.  Strengths:  Plays well to Brandon's skills, especially if you find a suitable tweener to pair with him.  Westbrook and Jerrod Bayless have been mentioned as possible guys in this scheme, though Bayless is a top 5 pick and Westbrook is probably gone at #13 as well.  GS kinda runs a similar setup with Baron Davis and Monta Ellis, with good success.   If you can make it work, it's like a successful 3-4 defense in football--you get LOTS of flexibility and lots of headaches for the other side.  Weaknesses:  Like the 3-4 defense in football, you need the right players.  We've got our nose tackle in Brandon Roy, now we need linebackers who can guard the line, chase the QB, and tackle the ballcarrier.   To really make it work, we need a tweener who can play good defense against the quick guards, and who isn't a pouty ballhog.  (The weakness of the Warriors setup is that Ellis is a lousy defender).   If Rudy were to show ballhandling and passing skills that he doesn't show with Spain or with Joventut (where he plays alongside guys like Calderon and Ricky Rubio), maybe he could fit the bill.  Verdict:  Possible, but none of the guys on the current roster fits the bill.

 

Poll
Who will the Blazers starting PG in 2008-09 be?
Steve Blake
54 votes
Jarrett Jack
5 votes
Sergio Rodriguez
3 votes
Brandon Roy
22 votes
Petteri Koponen
0 votes
Rudy Fernandez
2 votes
Jose Calderon
26 votes
Devin Harris
9 votes
2008 Draft Choice
2 votes
NBA Veteran (other than those listed above)
12 votes
Quarterback Controversy
1 votes
Depends on the Opponent
2 votes
Unorthodox Offense
10 votes

148 votes | Poll has closed

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Bang the J-Jack drum!

Jack might not have star written over him, but damn, doesn’t he look like the guy that helps Roy and Oden win a ring?

M, period. Fresh, comma.

by manzell on May 21, 2008 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Find the PG who fits into our offense.

Here are the traits in no particular order

Primary Traits
1. Create offense from the pick and roll
2. Knock down the open three-ball
3. A threat to finish at the hoop
4. Good post entry passer
5. Passable perimeter defender (Better than Jack or Blake)
6. Run a fast break or a secondary break (We have Aldridge and Rudy who can play fast)
7. Not a turnover machine and sensible decision maker (Jack)
8. Willing passer and play off the ball

Bonus
9. Excellent FT shooter
10. Quick hands on defense to get steals

So who fits closest to the above? I think Calderon easily. Like a glove.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on May 21, 2008 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Westbrook fits what you listed perfectly

Except 1 and 2—where he is still pretty raw, and not a great shooter, but both those skills could definitely develop.

And he can be had for free—our pick, or we may possibly have to trade up, but it won’t cost much.

I don’t think we have any CHANCE at Calderon without including, say, martell, travis, jack, and our pick. And that isn’t worth it to me.

And Westbrook’s defense is elite. If we have another mediocre PG defender next year, then, as everyone says, hello foul trouble for Oden. If we get a really top notch perimeter PG defender, that becomes a much smaller issue.

by TimG on May 21, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Calderon shouldn't be that expensive

and isn’t worth that price. Beno Udrih is a UFA and is an upgrade over what we got at PG.

Calderon does have some leverage—his agent could tell Toronto management that he wants a sign-and-trade, or else he signs for the qualifying offer, plays one more year in Toronto, and bolts as a UFA in ‘09.

by EngineerScotty on May 21, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

no qualifying offer

that i could see, and i think calderon could be signed for 7 mil. Oh and I think that KP will do that and then trade him to miami for the number 2. I’ve got like a 12 team trade set up that i think will get rose to the rose city. Hint: it involves Blount and All of our picks for the next 12 years (who needs them anyways?).

(Woody)

by TheOdenator on May 21, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toronto has to

offer either a one year qualifying offer or a max deal as an alternative to any long term non-max deal that they want him to sign.

They aren’t gonna offer a max deal so he has the option to sign for one year if he doesn’t like the long term deal they offer(or doesn’t want to be their long term).

by TubbaDubba on May 21, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also like the Westbrook option

He could understudy behind Blake for a season, then take over the starting slot in ‘09. Only problem-he’s being projected as high as the # 7 pick (Chad Ford). That WILL cost the Blazers-probably the #13 pick plus a very good player (e.g., Trout).

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on May 21, 2008 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know...

If Westbrook somehow lasts to the 10th pick. I am sure we could swing Jack and the 13th to the Nets (they seemed to be interested in Jack earlier and have mentioned trading the pick).

by The Graduate on May 21, 2008 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

#25

What did Oden say to the stork?. "Admit that you have got lost". amlmart

by ptwnblzr on May 23, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

"We comin along." Travis Outlaw

by annthefan on May 24, 2008 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Westbrook has TWO big question marks

1. His 3-ball
2. His ball handling as a PG

These are two questions marks that are huge in the Blazer offense. Maybe the workouts well answer these questions. If Westbrook can demonstrate these traits, he’ll be gone before #13.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on May 21, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good points

I think those are not big isuues though, several players have had poor shooting % from 3 in college, and significantly improved. As for his ball handling, he started while Collison was injured, and didn’t have a problem, and he’s great in transition, and so I think the only question woul dbe his ball handling in a half court set, in which case Brandon can do the work (which he does most of the time anyway, in half court sets).

The best option with Westbrook is that we can get him with our pick (possibly, maybe not—remains to be seen, which is KP’s job) or by trading up, and won’t cost nearly as much as far as losing players and major changes on the team, as it would probably take to get Calderon.

by TimG on May 21, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Westbrook wouldn't be a starter until (/if) he developed his potential

He might become a great PG, but is very raw and not nearly ready to run an NBA team. The main reason to grab him if available is that our current crop are such woeful defenders.

by hoopla-pdx on May 21, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the "unorthodox offense" theme

That is, adding “a small “tweener” guard who isn’t a great playmaker (but who can play well off the ball and defend opposing PGs adequately) playing alongside [Roy, and] possibly running the break as well”

Devin Harris fits that role pretty well. The only question is what the NJ GM will ask in a trade? Reports say that NJ was interested in Jack at the trade deadline. I’d start with Jarrett and add #13 and hope to get Harris without having to include Webster or Outlaw.

by two4larue on May 21, 2008 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

That was their previous GM

that wanted Jack. Kiki is in charge now. New Jersey will not trade their above average starting PG who they like for a below average starting PG and a late lotto pick. They would only trade him if it improved their team. They would have to get a good starting PG in return, and something else that they need. I think that to get Harris we would have to give up more than we get back because they really like Harris and have no interest in trading him unless we gave them an offer they couldn’t refuse. Pocket lint and a paper clip won’t get it done.

by TubbaDubba on May 21, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derrick Rose

cause we gonna win the lottery

If it fills a need, if it fills a rebuilding situation. And my goal is to fill and rebuild and I am not going to be shortsighted.
- Isiah Thomas

by JTDuck22 on May 21, 2008 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Screw this lottery talk

We’re making the playoffs in 2008, and we’re gonna win the title baybee!!!!!

by EngineerScotty on May 21, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think KP is going to jump the gun

and bring in a minor replacement at point guard. I also don’t think a rookie PG is the answer. I think the answer is let’s see what we’ve got with Oden in the mix and see if we even need an upgrade at PG. Bringing in a bunch of extra pieces because they look good on paper is what got this franchise in trouble in the first place. Patience….

Therefore I voted Blake.

by leeroyjenkins on May 21, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Unorthodox offense with Roy and Rudy

Should work pretty well. I’m not sure where you get the impression that Rudy isn’t a good ball-handler or passer. Rudy’s court vision and passing ability is exceptionally good, Rudy is 6th in the ACB league in assists per game and 1st among non-PGs by a wide margin.

by trk on May 21, 2008 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Steve Blake will be starter on opening night

but it’ll be Jarrett Jack by the end of the season, having improved in a lot of key areas, such as turnovers, decision making, running the fast break. And the Blazers will have made no key trades in the offseason.

That’s my prediction.

by ranma on May 21, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Bring back the player-coach!

Screw the supposed illegality of it. Coach Nate should run the point and we’re only kidding ourselves if we deny it.

BLZRS FRVR

by nightbluefruit on May 21, 2008 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Sergio would cheep shot him in practice

"KP has a raging Jayhawk for anyone from Kansas." Mortimer

by Sabonis4Ever on May 21, 2008 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

No hurry unless a great opportunity arises

We do need a better defender at the point, but, otherwise, anyone should look better next year.
– I’m looking forward to seeing if Sergio can run the pick-and-roll with Oden.
– Jack greatly improved as a PG later in the year, and is still young and developing.
– Blake should be kept as a rock solid backup and veteran presence, once we find out championship PG.
– Koponen is still a big unknown, but with huge potential.

Another year should be telling with JJ and Sergio, and we aren’t going to win a championship yet. If no one is emerging, it could mean more time for Fernandez.

I don’t think Calderon is going to be available (Ford is), and I can’t see anyone else that is a better option than what we have.

by hoopla-pdx on May 21, 2008 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

If we get Ford

We’ll have to baby-proof every court in the NBA. Make sure he can’t stick his fingers in any sockets, put padding around the floor under the baskets for when he lands awkwardly, give him his binky so he doesn’t cry about starting…

Why doesn’t he play with a thick brace around his neck? Or maybe a cone like puppies wear? John Olerud wore a protective helmet at all times, even when fielding, because a good blow to the head would kill him. There is precedent here, your honor, so Ford, wear a neck brace!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 21, 2008 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The POLL title needs clarification.

It’s phrased, “Who will the Blazers starting PG in 2008-09 be?”

Well, would that be the starter in game 1 (at the start of the season), the starter in game 82
(at the end of the season), or the most starts for the 82-game season?

In particular, I’m sure Blake will start game #1.
He will be replaced; it’s just a question of when.
Will it be during the season by someone already on the roster at season’s start who gains the starting job
sometime during the season (Rudy, JJ, Sergio, the #13 pick, or a player traded for during the off-season)?
Will it be a player obtained near the trade deadline, gotten by cashing in Raef’s Expiring Contract?
Or will it be a player signed with our monstrositudinal cap space in the 2009 off-season?

Or will Blake end up just flat-out keeping the job, even for the long haul?

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on May 21, 2008 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it will be "C"

If not then maybe ”# 2”

"Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss" Robert A. Heinlein

by 92wastheyear on May 21, 2008 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

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