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Weekend Nostalgia:  Coaches

Watching and hearing Rick Adelman coach in the Houston-Utah game tonight reminded me of his younger days and how much I liked him back then.  This brings up the question for the weekend. 

Here is a list of Portland coaches courtesy of SportsEncyclopedia.com:

Rolland Todd 1970/71-1971/72
Stu Inman 1971/72
Jack McCloskey 1972/73-1973/74
Lenny Wilikens 1974/75-1975/76
Jack Ramsay 1976/77-1985/86
Mike Schuler 1986/87-1988/89
Rick Adelman 1988/89-1993/94
P.J. Carlisiemo 1994/95-1996/97
Mike Dunleavy 1997/98-2000/01
Maurice Cheeks 2001/02-2004/05
Kevin Pritchard 2004/05
Nate McMillian 2005/06-Present

Here's what we want to know:

1.  Who is the best Blazer coach ever?

2.  Who is your favorite Blazer coach ever (which may or may not be the same thing).

3.  Which of these coaches do you think is the most underrated and/or got the rawest deal from ownership, the media, or the fans?

As always feel free to explain your rationale.  Enjoy!

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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1. Ramsay. I’d like to say Adelman, but Ramsay got us the hardware and that’s what matters. Ask me again in 10-15 years though. ;)

2. Adelman

3. I’d say Cheeks. He got it hard here, then moved to Philly and turned them into a playoff team.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 2, 2008 11:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I was but a boy when Adelman was the coach, and thus I don’t feel like I can intelligently critique him. I really liked him though, and he seemed pretty good. Obviously, Ramsey was mostly before my time of basketball awareness but he was coach for 10 years and that’s pretty impressive. Oh, and he won the title I think, but we’ve won like 7 or 8 of those. Hmm? What? Only One?! Jesus, we suck…

I didn’t like Cheeks the coach, but I also admit that I don’t really know what was going on behind closed doors. I usually defend coaches too, because they can only do so much and players messing up shouldn’t mean the coaching is “bad”. But with Cheeks, it just seemed like… he didn’t know what he is doing.

Since Adelman, the coach I like best has to be Nate. I love this coach. I think he’s smart, tough, has shown a willingness to adapt and change when needed, and cares about his relationship with his players. I am easy on coaches though. It wasn’t Dunleavy’s fault no one could hit a layup in a game 7 fourth quarter.

Nate is Great. I was too young to know what the hell I was talking about for the rest, and hardly can string an intelligible word ‘bout the NBA now as it is.

Coaches get too much credit for better or worse. Cheeks has more experience now, but I doubt he suddenly became a good X’s and O’s guy who outcoaches the other team’s coach just because a bunch of hard playing athletic kids make the playoffs in a weak East. I always felt like he was more a caretaker for NBA players, not really a “coach” in the traditional sense.

With how everyone has improved, how our record has improved, how well we do out of timeouts, how he manages time outs and gets players to come in early before the season and all dat stuff, I think Nate is good. Of course, having Roy and LMA and soon Oden will make most coaches look like good coaches.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 3, 2008 12:37 AM PDT   0 recs

Wow, how old are you?

If you don’t mind me asking….I don’t know why but you always struck me as an older gentlemen. Not a guy likely in his 20s.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 3, 2008 12:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Morty is wiiiiiise beyond his years.

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by annthefan on May 3, 2008 1:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I am an older gentleman of the night

I am in my later 20’s, somewhere between 27 and 28. So, I wasn’t THAT young when Adelman was coach, but not old/smart enough to know objectively what I was talking about. I apologize if I seem like a boring old fogey :-(

Mortimer, dying inside because he seems old :-(

by Mortimer on May 3, 2008 1:50 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Haha, sorry brother.

I didn’t mean it that way. You just always struck me as older as 27/28.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on May 3, 2008 2:12 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Not boring but...

I would have guessed older from your comments simply because you seem to weigh your thoughts heavily before they end up in a post. Generally speaking, that seems like a trait one acquires after some seasoning.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 3, 2008 8:30 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thats just the drugs talking

He does live in LA after all.

by Sabonis4Ever on May 3, 2008 3:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll be Serious for a Second

This is too hard. I moved to back to Oregon in September of 1996. I only have memories of four coaches and one doesn’t count. So basically I have Ramsay, Dunleavy, Cheeks, and McMillian to answer your questions. Ramsay would not be in consideration, except your first question is a no-brainer, because you have to go with the guy who won a championship.

Dunleavy and Cheeks were thrown under the bus by their players, and I do not have enough experience with McMillan to consider him for the last two questions.

I guess what I’m typing is that I want to answer question two with McMillan, but my heart won’t let me. I would have to say Dunleavy.

Question three I would have to say whichever coach, John Canzano hated the most.

Signatures? We ain't got no signatures. We don't need no signatures! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signatures!

by tominhawaii on May 3, 2008 5:22 AM PDT   0 recs

I've seen them all

1) Ramsay – won a championship with the prettiest brand of basketball I have yet to see duplicated
2) Ramsay – He had a great basketball mind.
3) Lenny Wilkens – He had to deal with a not quite healthy Walton and not near the talent that Ramsay ended up getting. Probably should have had the chance. But then who knows what might have happened?

by blazermaniac32 on May 3, 2008 6:17 AM PDT   0 recs

Adelman

I grew up with Adelman at the helm, so he’s my favorite. Dr. Jack Ramsay seems popular, but I never saw him coach.

Dunleavey and PJ were kinda hated on in their time, but don’t know if they deserved it.

by rmcdougall on May 3, 2008 8:02 AM PDT   0 recs

My list...

Best : Dr. Jack Ramsay. He did benefit from a great player and a terrific team with almost perfect chemistry but he was also succesful at Philly and Buffalo. His tenure came at a time when head coaches had much more influence in direction and personnel and so that team was basically “his baby”. He had a fantastic game-time sense and a horrible fashion sense.

Favorite : Rick Adelman. A former Trailblazer with Northwest connections. Guided the team to some of it’s highest (two finals and one conference final) and lowest (losing two finals and one conference final) moments. A nice guy and good coach in his own right.

Underrated : Mike Dunleavy. His ‘99 COY award testifies to his ability but that dysfunctional, off-court misbehaving, revolving door era wrongly judged him.

by Dr Dave on May 3, 2008 8:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Bingo bango bongo

That is pretty much the post I was going to write. I would add to it that I don’t know anything prior to Ramsay and I would say he and Adleman are co-favorites for me.

Dr. Jack’s exit from Portland was during an interesting time in NBA history. Big money was driving the sport more and more. Player salaries were skyrocketing and coaches were losing their influence with their star players because of the income gap. It was becoming difficult to have offensive schemes that were team oriented because stars were unhappy unless they had the ball all the time. Ramsay molded players to fit his system and used the skills they had in his system. That is obviously not how the NBA works anymore.

I always respected Dr. Jack for recognizing that times were changing and that he wasn’t going to change with them. I believe he coached a couple years in Indiana and then never coached again, just like he said he wouldn’t after he left the Pacers.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 3, 2008 9:02 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Off the wall favorite coach pick:

Kevin Pritchard. I didn’t know anything about him at the time but for some reason I really liked him. I was hoping he’d continue as coach.

Cheeks did not command respect among his players (duh!) I always hated how the players called him “Cheeks”, not coach Cheeks, or coach, just “Cheeks”. Total lack of respect. I always thought Adleman was a poor X’s and O’s guy but I think he’s probably improved a bunch in that area. He was always a good ‘player’s coach’.

Actually, my picks would mirror Dr. Dave’s to the letter. .

by TwoDeep on May 3, 2008 8:44 AM PDT   0 recs

When a coach thinks he can be friend of his players

he should be fired.

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by amlmart1 on May 3, 2008 9:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jack Ramsey....

he got the championship for us. Also, I used to go to his summer basketball camp when I was a kid. Also, I really like Adleman, who also was at the camp.

Some of the best Blazer basketball was played under these two coaches.

by JasonT on May 3, 2008 8:54 AM PDT   0 recs

I think...

The best coach of Blazer History has to be Jack Ramsay.

I can understand if folks are not old enough to remember him (I was 2 when he won the championship, but Jack was still around by the time I started watching games, so I remember him well). This guy was (is) just a great basketball mind, who understood what it took to win. I credit a lot of the success we had later with Clyde, Terry, Jerome, etc on the way he instilled leadership and discipline into those guys. This is in addition to mentoring another great coach in Adelman.

I have tremendous respect for Dr. Jack. It may come as a surprise, therefore, to learn that Ramsay isn’t actually my favorite Blazer coach. That was Rick Adelman.

I’m not sure what it was. Maybe it was the way that his voice would be hoarse from yelling at about the 4 minute mark of the first quarter. Or his humble coaching origins coaching at Chemeketa Community College in Salem. Or the fact that he was the Blazer’s first ever team captain back in the bad old days. Whatever it was, he was the right coach, at the right time, for the right team, and I wish we’d never let him go.

He is also the coach who, IMO, got the rawest deal. Rick is, and has been for the 15 years since we let him go, a viable head coach in the NBA. And one who consistently makes the playoffs. He gets his teams to play above themselves. No, he’s never won it all. A lot of very good coaches (Jerry Sloan, Don Nelson, Larry Brown, et al) can say the same. The way he was shown the door in Portland, after basically one down season (“down” being a team that made the playoffs, but got outed in the first round), really rankled me at the time, and still bothers me.

Now, while I like Nate on the current squad, I would have just as happily skipped PJ, Mike Dunleavey, and even Mo Cheeks, if we could have just kept Rick around. He could have been our Jerry Sloan.

Wherever you go, there you are.

by Majikj0n on May 3, 2008 9:15 AM PDT   0 recs

Larry Brown

has a ring with the Pistons

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by 92wastheyear on May 3, 2008 10:04 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rawest deal...

echo “statements on best and favorite”;

But I have a different take on rawest deal. I always thought Schuler got the rawest of deals. If memory serves he won coach of the year his first year and was ousted his second because Clyde daggered him.

Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong because I am going off of memory.

It seemed to me he got the team headed in the right direction and then Adelman took over the reins and let the horses run to glory.

Further proof of the raw deal is his not getting any mention of it. So raw as to have faded completely into oblivion.

by LaughingJon on May 3, 2008 9:25 AM PDT   0 recs

I think I would have done the same in Clyde's shoes

I never liked Schuler much. He seemed like a disciplinarian with no connection with his players. But he did get the team going in the right direction on the court. He lost the faith of his players and that wasn’t all his fault but the team wasn’t going anywhere with him at the helm.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 3, 2008 2:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

well yeah,

he was wound waaaaaay too tight and I didn’t cotton to him much. Him and P.J. cut from the same cloth. Good basketball minds but not so much on the interpersonal skills. But I found it hard to believe he could go from coach of the year to out of a job in less than a year and not see it as a raw deal.

by LaughingJon on May 3, 2008 9:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

PJ seems to have learned in SA

I guess the difference is that Schuler fell of the face of the planet and PJ has tempered himself a bit over time. He could do well in Seattle if they make good decisions with their picks and managment is patient.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 4, 2008 8:07 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pondering a preponderance of ponderables.

Best coach: Kevin Pritchard. I mean, look what he’s done for us! He got Roy and Aldridge, and has built an amazing team. What? He did that as General Manager? There’s a difference?! Nevertheless, on those things alone, definitely the best.

Favorite Coach:Rolland Todd. Sure, I wasn’t even born yet when he was coach, but something about the name makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. And that’s the complete opposite of what I felt hearing Stu Inman’s name.

Rawest Deal: Jack Ramsey. You win a championship in your first year, and suddenly everyone expects you to win another one. And he never did live up to those unbearable expectations. He probably died in anonymity a week after he got fired, or something like that, and was never seen again.

Moral of the Story: Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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by T Darkstar on May 3, 2008 12:43 PM PDT   0 recs

My favorite basketball quote was from KP when he was a coach.

He said, “Mothers, don’t let your children grow up to become interim head coaches.”

by Sabonis4Ever on May 3, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Strident coaches wear out welcome faster even if successful

I moved to Oregon in 1974 and didn’t really follow the Blazers before then. Ramsey contributed/benefitted from the perfect storm that resulted in a championship, so he wins “the best.” Plus, Ramsey was a good teaching coach who combined the cerebral with the physical and ran—the teams were fun to watch and successful. Good as he was, his constant hectoring of players eventually fell on deaf ears.

Adelman was my favorite. He’s incredibly calm under pressure and seems to draw the best out of players. Again, the teams ran, won, and were fun to watch.

Schuler was brilliant but brittle and the most strident. I don’t know if he got screwed over, but the guy was like fingernails on a chalkboard. Even if great with X’s and O’s, he couldn’t get along with the players, or, it seems with management or fans (me anyway).

It will be interesting to see if Nate will be the coach to take the Blazers to the next level, or if we’ll go through a Wilkens-Ramsey-type transition. Jerry Sloan notwithstanding, very few places have the same coach moving from the basement to the penthouse.

by vcubed on May 3, 2008 1:53 PM PDT   0 recs

somebody post the link.............

to Mike Schuler falling off the chair the day they made him coach.
Other than that, I loved the way P.J. worked the refs.
Loved how Cheeks sang the National Anthem.
loved Dr. Jack’s pants!
Hey! K.P. got the most out of D. Miles than anybody ever had before.
Props to Mike Dunleavy to wanting to through down with Sheed.
But at the end of the day it’s Sarge. Open, Honest, a true profesional. He will evolve as a coach as this team evolves as a group.

2-4 the who

by 24thewho on May 3, 2008 2:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Coach

The best Blazer Coach ever?-I think you have to go with Ramsay. He’s H.O.F., legendary. Fantastic basketball mind and supreme competitor. Implemented much of the fast break style of play that has become part and parcel of what the entire N.B.A. is all about today.

Favorite Blazer Coach-Well in my personal case, it is the same-Ramsay.

Most underrated/rawest deal- I always thought Mike Dunleavy did an excellent job as coach. The teams handed him by Blazer Management at the time admittedly were assembled with no eye towards chemistry and yet he guided them to the very pinnacle of success. He balanced diverse and conflicting ego’s on supremely talented but volatile rosters. We ultimately did not win a championship so he is not remembered, I think, by most as one of our best coaches, but I always have thought he was.
I always liked Dunleavy, about the only mistake I would attach to his tenure would be the miss evaluation of Jermaine O’ Neal. Which was a mistake, but overall Dunleavy was a great coach IMO.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on May 3, 2008 2:38 PM PDT   0 recs

I don't know about O'Neal

Sabonis, Rasheed, and Grant were all in front of him. At that time, I would have put all of them in front of O’Neal. Heck, Rasheed is still better than O’Neal. I always thought O’Neal was a whiner, faking back injuries when he didn’t get playing time. I was happy when they traded him. Now it does not seem like such a great trade, at the time, to me, it sure did to me.

Signatures? We ain't got no signatures. We don't need no signatures! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signatures!

by tominhawaii on May 3, 2008 3:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahhhh

take a “to me” out of my last sentence.

Signatures? We ain't got no signatures. We don't need no signatures! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signatures!

by tominhawaii on May 3, 2008 3:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No Tom

Once it is there, it cannot be removed.

As to O’ Neal: hindsight is 20-20. I appreciate your honesty. Most Blazer fans if they weren’t excited about the trade were not so overcome that there was an outcry at the time. Even with hindsight you would have to include his injuries into the equation and then it doesn’t seem so bad.

My problem with that summer was doing both that deal and the Kemp deal. If they had kept Grant, getting Davis made more sense. If they knew they were not going to resign Grant, which was the right move for how much $$ and years he wanted, they should have kept O’Neal instead of taking two big risks in the same summer. But that was Trader Bob.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 3, 2008 3:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

I loved Trader Bob trading, I thought it was fun. I think his problem was that he failed to look at the big picture.

Signatures? We ain't got no signatures. We don't need no signatures! I don't have to show you any stinkin' signatures!

by tominhawaii on May 3, 2008 3:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure

Keep in mind I like Dunleavy. Yes, the reality was a whole lot of veteran, developed talent was ahead of Jermaine. Which is part of the reason I like Dunleavy, I don’t fault him so much for the choice to play Sabonis, Grant, Rasheed ahead of a young mistake prone Jermaine.
I fault him more for not seeming to recognize how good Jermaine could become. Both Whittsit and Dunleavy did not seem to realize what we had in Jermaine. How much different would of the past 5 years of been had Shawn Kemp not been brought in? When Grant left I think Jermaine expected his minutes. Whittsit aquired Kemp which pushed Jermaine down the depth chart again. I think Dunleavy or “someone” should of recognized the talent Jermaine was and lobbied for him getting more minutes towards the end of the Sabonis, Rasheed cycle. Yes, Rasheed, Sabonis and Pippen deserved to start ahead of Jermaine BUT towards the end did a Shawn Kemp? Plus keeping an eye on the future the realization that Sabonis and Pippen were not the future should of made O’Neal a more important and carefully evaluated asset. The O’Neal/Davis trade was a mistake. How much influence was Whittsit and how much Dunleavy or both, who knows?

Again I like Dunleavy, but knowing the talent you have both on the court and sitting on your bench is part of how good a coach you are, and I never heard Dunleavy really lobby for keeping O’ Neal, so I have to put it in the mistake ledger for Dunleavy.

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by Krang on May 3, 2008 3:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

This sub-thread has brought back a forgotten nausea

the year beforewe traded for Shawn Kemp, I remember the game in Cleveland where he lit us up, 20 foot jumper after 20 foot jumper. When we traded for him, it seemed like management had not lived down that episode. That was a catastrophe.

I hated the Dale Davis trade and it is still a bitter pill to swallow. If he was brought in to handle Shaq, when had he handled Shaq before? It was moronic. The whole Shrempf/Strickland tinkering from that era also irritated me, and irritates me still. The Pippen trade was magnificent, but then Pippen was brought in to compete with other teams, not fellow teammates. Plus in that trade we got rid of a bunch of dead weight.

I loved Adelman. People forget how well those teams played D and rebounded, which lead to all the running. In three years, two finals and one WCF, with Kevin Duckworth at center. And Buck William’s offensive limitations at PF. And Kersey’s limitations at SF. Remarkably motivated team by a remarkable motivator. Look at his Houston team just out: there are a couple of non-playoff teams I would have traded for their lineup. Really underrated

by Honka Playboy on May 4, 2008 10:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Buck limited himself when he came here.

He was a capable scorer who altered his game to fit the team. That is what I liked about him. He scored 18 pts a game before coming to portland.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on May 10, 2008 2:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Best=Jack Ramsey HOF

Fav=Rick Adleman
Raw= Tie between Rick and Dunleavy

They shouldn’t have fired either. I would have loved to have tried to continue the Drexler era with a reload at the center position

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by 92wastheyear on May 3, 2008 6:09 PM PDT   0 recs

I really can only say who got the rawest deal and that was Dunleavy

by mikeacker on May 3, 2008 9:16 PM PDT   0 recs

Mike Dunleavy

I can’t say for certain who was great or who was worse for anyone from before 1995, but I would just like to give some love to the coach who surely has the rawest deal – Mike Dunleavy. This guy had a powder keg of egos to work with his entire time in Portland and was able to turn it into something. He’s the guy that was able to have Rasheed come off the bench with minimal whining. That achievement alone was reason enough for his coach of the year award. Since he left the Blazers he’s had reasonable success with the Clippers, with the failures recently due more to injury than any coaching decision.

by robrun2 on May 4, 2008 1:54 AM PDT   0 recs

Plus

He looks more and more like Tony Soprano with each passing day. I didn’t foresee that when he was our coach, and I really think he deserves some credit for the accomplishment.

I remember not liking or getting his firing, and not really appreciating Cheeks all that much. Some seem to think Dunleavy wasn’t peaches n’ cream, and I know I wasn’t following the team like I do now, so I dunno. Looking back, it’s obviously the sort of thing that happens all the time when a team makes the WCF for a few years and then has some 1st round exits; coaches almost always get fired. Like you said, it was a powder keg of personalitie and we clearly didn’t get better after Dunleavy left.

I think you can just as easily say it was that sort of team imploding a bit on itself, not being able to sustain the bad egos and whatnot, as much as the coaching (prolly more the egos and badness n’ such). No one could make that situation better, or sustain the previous success. That group of players has never given consistent effort and performance anywhere they’ve been.

I say Pritchard got the rawest deal, because he’s put in a position where the only option is play the young guys and fail. His coaching record looks like a turd, and he’s a genius! That ain’t fair. RAW DEAL CITY.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on May 4, 2008 2:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

what aint fair?

Do you mean its not fair to you? Cuz, KP has despite a streak of meaningless coaching losses, been promoted, resurrected the franchise, and earned the owners, players and fans respect in what seems like one swoop of the logo. I spose it isnt fair in a sort of twisted irony.

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by bow4meow on May 4, 2008 9:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The doctor is in

Jack is the man, alway always will be #1 or 1A in my book. He’s like your first love, you never forget that one, special till the end.

Jack and Rick with Mike D, Lenny and Mo’ rounding out my fav 5

Underrated has got to be Nate (McMillian?), but that will soon change….in a very good way..

The Oden Era, Day 319

by Heymoe on May 4, 2008 7:33 AM PDT   0 recs

my two cents

Best PTB coach ever—- Jack Ramsay. You cant argue with success and Dr Jack reached the pinnacle of it. Ramsay was also a winning coach at St Josephs, and probably the most successful coach they ever had either. Ramsay related to everybody, and unquestionably had the respect of all of his players.

My favorite Coach was Rick Adelman. He had plenty of talent to work with and I loved how he would do mass substitutions for the starters, with guys like Coop, Abdelnaby, Danny Young, Drazen, and Uncle Cliffy. Adelman made the game fun to behold. And it was back when we had all quality characters playing so well together.

At the time alot of people moaned to learn Adelman was let go. He was a darn good coach for the PTB, and the fans related to Adelman. At the time, Adelmans idea of an up-tempo Drexler-Porter-Kersey-Williams-Chris Dudley starting 5 went for not when Dud’s went down with that terrible injury. The team wained and as too often happens, the coach takes the blame. Its a pleasure to see Adelman doing so well without his own teams big man out.

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by bow4meow on May 4, 2008 9:46 AM PDT   0 recs

best coach

dr. jack then adelman, will see what nate can do but has some big shoes to fill.

by BrizDeman on May 4, 2008 10:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Too much love for Rick Adelman

Yes, Rick was a nice guy, and his Blazer teams were athletically talented. But a good game coach? Hardly. The reputation of the Blazers in the early ‘90s were that they were a “dumb” team. Put them in a pressure situation and they would fold up like a lawn chair. Now, I loved watching them beat Utah and Phoenix but the finals losses to LA, Detroit and Chicago were painful.

Maybe no amount of coaching could beat Jordan raining threes in game 1, but the Laker series (where Porter screwed up and passed to Kersey on the break then Jerome flipped it too late to Cliff who was under the baseket and fumbled it out of bounds) was actually lost in game 1, when Rick substituted for both Porter and Drexler going into the 4th quarter and LA went on a run and stole the home court advantage.

Adelman was outcoached by Jackson in that series (remember Vlade repeatedly poking the ball away from Duckworth? No adjustments were made) as he was by Chuck Daley in the NBA finals. It was a great time to be a Blazer fan, but coming close to the championships and getting repeatedly outsmarted was like buying an ice cream cone and watching the ice cream fall out and hit the sidewalk before ever getting to taste it.

Adelman is a decent regular season coach, but he’s nowhere near Ramsay’s class. Here’s hoping McMillian eventually rises to #2 on the Blazer coaching echelon. But in the end it’s all about bringing home the trophy/rings

by two4larue on May 5, 2008 3:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Laker's coach in 92 was Dunleavy

who later was the Blazers coach

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by 92wastheyear on May 7, 2008 10:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Best/Favorite

Jack Ramsay/Kevin Pritchard

I started going to the Rose Garden right after Cheeks got fired. KP is my boy. I saw every home game he coached. Nate might be the guy teaching the players how to run the offense, but KP is the guy who taught the whole Blazers organization how to be awesome again.

by Jumbo on May 6, 2008 12:11 PM PDT   0 recs

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Season Ticket Holder Perks...?
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UPDATED: Let's make Blazer's history at the home opener!
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Final cuts for the future
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Vote To Pack Which Bar With Blazer Fans This Year
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Mid Season Trade - Using Raef's Exipiring Contract
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OT -- When Sports Radio got the best of me...
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Dumped for the hotter Blonde!

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