Davis sign and trade deal?

by monkeybones on May 16, 2008 3:05 PM PDT Comment 27 comments

What are the options with B. Davis?

I was wondering... With Davis threatening to opt out, is it feasible for the Blazers to put together a sign and trade deal with Golden State for Davis? Maybe Lafrentz, the 13th pick, 1-2 second round picks, a point guard and Martell. Is that a possibility, I'm sure it's not possible as I haven't seen any posts on it but was curious? Seems like the $$ could work out? Please educate me.

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See Post from earlier this week "Interesting Sign and Trade"

http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/5/13/509027/interesting-sign-and-trade

this is where this discussion is happening.

The only problem I see with the new format at B-edge is that only 10 posts are kept on the front page, rather than 20 or more on the old format.

by Portland Dynasty on May 16, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I've got 20 on my screen.

But it has scrolled down off of those too. I think you can adjust those things in your settings. But you are right, it has been discussed. But since monkeybones just joined us today, I don’t fault him (her?) for missing it.

Welcome monkeybones!

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by T Darkstar on May 16, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I got mine set to 50. I think it’s under your profile settings.

Oh where oh were could my Jscot be
The cops took him away from me
He's gone to prison so I've got to be good
So I can see my Jscot when I'll leave this blog

by tominhawaii on May 16, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PS

If you set it to 50, you can read a lot more Timbo comments.

Oh where oh were could my Jscot be
The cops took him away from me
He's gone to prison so I've got to be good
So I can see my Jscot when I'll leave this blog

by tominhawaii on May 16, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

50 is so much cooler!

Now I to can be a pentagenarian.

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"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on May 17, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

-- too --

Not enough o’s, which is what the heptagenerian said when he ran out of Malt-O-Meal Scooters.

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"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on May 17, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

jscot?

He already took over the world. And we are not invited.

by RipCity on May 17, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sniff, sniff

Of those powders these muds went out.

by amlmart1 on May 17, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is Obama?

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by Sabonis4Ever on May 17, 2008 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm. There's a rumor going around that he's in jail in Singapore for smuggling gum,

But that may just be a ruse to misguide us from the truth.

"We comin along." Travis Outlaw

by annthefan on May 17, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gum Runner?

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by 92wastheyear on May 18, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey

I didnt get a welcome… of course I never introduced myself either…

If you dont talk to your cats about catnip, who will?

by bow4meow on May 17, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better late than never!

Actually, there are many cases when this isn’t true. Like at the end of Cast Away, when the guy finally makes it back to the mainland only to find that his wife had already married someone else. That would totally suck. I think even worse than having the organ-transplant team arrive late.

What I’m trying to say is that it is too late to introduce yourself. We already know who you are! Sorry, the smart-aleck in me couldn’t resist. :)

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"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on May 17, 2008 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baron Davis

Raef’s contract wouldn’t be appealling to them, since they could also just let Baron’s come off the books, and have a year with a decent player. I can’t see any reason why they would trade him. portland’s best bet is to hope he doesn’t opt out this year (He won’t no one else is going to offer him that kind of money) with the GSW’s and then sign him when we get increased cap space.

(Woody)

by TheOdenator on May 16, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not Raef by himself

But if LaFrentz’s contract essentially was used as ‘filler’ to match salaries, GS might be interested. If they could get some younger (and cheaper) players along with LaFrentz, they might bite.

It would be great to have Baron pushing on the break. However, I’m not sure if he’d be willing to defer to Brandon enough in the half-court to make this trade worthwhile. If having Baron on the squad means squelching the development of Roy that we’ve all seen over the last 2 years, I think I’d rather look elsewhere for help at the point.

by Storyteller on May 16, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey dude

they dont need LaFrentz contract, they want to give that money to Monta Ellis. And if they dont want to pay Davis alot of money, they can make a sing and trade. Why do we want to trade LaFrentze away? because we dont know for sure that we could just sing the free agent we want, when he comes of the books. So Warriors would not want to depend on the free agents market, and and thus wont trade for Lafrentze, but trade Davis for the same value.

by RipCity on May 17, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want to sing and trade, I want to sing and trade!

I’m sure you meant “sign” and not “sing” but the error is a fun one. Next up, Blazers – The Musical!

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"Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary." - Patrick McManus

by T Darkstar on May 17, 2008 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

thats what the Warriors probably think, when they hear us talk about getting Davis for Lafretze. They want to sing a song and trade.

by RipCity on May 17, 2008 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe.

GS doesn’t really need cap room though. Travis would almost certainly have to be included in any deal. I love Davis, but I don’t think it would be a wise choice. The guy just gets hurt too much. Monte Ellis on the other hand would be an amazing option, although almost impossible to get. Having the fastest guy in the NBA on the roster might solve a few problems for the Blazers.

In other news, a bunch of basketball “experts” have been writing about the Nets almost certainly making a big trade this year. John Hollinger mentions that the Nets will probably need a third team to make a deal work. Maybe my Devin Harris dreams will be answered after all.

Here is a question. Considering how great Devin Harris is, and how much potential Sergio has, would trading Steve Blake be such a bad idea? If Harris plays 33 minutes a game at PG, couldn’t Brandon, Rudy and Sergio fill the other 15?

Steve is great and everything, but Rudy is probably a better option playing off the ball when Brandon is running the point. Throwing Steve into the mix would also increase the chances of making a deal with the Nets. Am I wrong?

If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them.-Charles Barkley

by Winchester on May 16, 2008 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I've been toying with this for more than a month.

If you look at the minutes each player will get, Blake sure gets the end of the stick. We’re just dealing with “Ifs”, but Roy is going to get minutes here. Any player Portland gets will play a lot. If Jack is not traded…if Rodriguez is not traded…Rudy can play some point…ect.

If it’s Calderon, I think that Toronto would be much more interested in a Outlaw and Blake deal (works cap wise) than a Outlaw and Jack deal (doesn’t work). If it’s Webster and Blake (cap wise might work) and Webster and Jack (doesn’t work). Jack is not a Suns type of player and that is who they are looking for.

I think that Outlaw and Blake is too much. But I think it was Mike Barrett that said to get Calderon, Portland might have to sweeten the pot to get them to do a deal with us.

by parkinglotj on May 16, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Travis is included ...

DEAL IS OFF!

If you dont talk to your cats about catnip, who will?

by bow4meow on May 17, 2008 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

#25

"We comin along." Travis Outlaw

by annthefan on May 17, 2008 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok

my fealings wouldn’t be hurt to find devon on the roster, we need bfan do figure out the particulars. hes good at that kinda thing

"Could we make a deal right now to make us a 50-win team? No question," Pritchard said. "Will that get us a championship? That’s what we always have to evaluate."

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by timbo on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 AM PDT

by ptwnblzr on May 16, 2008 3:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

no thanks

do not want.

Here's to being hated. Come on #1 pick!

by ratbastird on May 16, 2008 6:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Here Are Some Important...

Baron Davis numbers: 32, 15, 36, 28, 19.

Those are the number of games he missed in 5 consecutive years before last season.

He’s a giant injury risk and his back may very well shorten his career similar to Larry Bird.

Portland shouldn’t be trading any assets for a PG that will possibly be available as a free agent when Portland has cap-space. It would be dumb to do so.

by moldorf on May 16, 2008 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In light of his injury proneness

We should pass on Baron. Great baller, I would have loved to seen how his career would have panned out without his horrific string of injuries.

by LMA on May 17, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely agree that he's a great baller

but part of that horrific string of injuries was due to lackadaisical offseason training habits and carrying a few extra pounds during the season (or so I’ve read anyway). Constantly pounding knees and ankles with excess poundage ain’t a great way to stay injury free—just ask Shaq. Also, I cock one hugely skeptical eyebrow at “32, 15, 36, 28, 19” for five consecutive seasons and then, lo and behold, 82 games played during a contract year! Great baller. Not my kind of baller, nor the new-look Blazers’ kind either. Pass.

by BlazersOrBust on May 18, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs